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florida. a gunman kills 17 people including children and teachers. other teachers struggling to protect their students from the rampage. >> my mom called me. when i picked it up and in that moment i sort of lost my composure. i told her i was okay. she needed to know i was okay but the kids needed me to be composed. it's hard to in that moment to stay composed. >> at the hospital someone came in and told me talk about it as much as you can so it can get out of your brain so we don't have nightmares about it. when ever the opportunity came and someone asked, i freely talked about it because i don't want nightmares. >> 30 minutes ago this message from the president. >> we are all joined together as one american family. your suffering is our burden
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also. no child, no teacher should ever be in danger in an american school. >> the heroes confirming two faculty members, athletic director and beloved football coach died. they stepped between the gunman and their students. >> i know aaron personally. i coached with him. my two boys played for him. i don't know when aaron's funeral is, i don't know how many adults will go but you'll get 2,000 kids there. when aaron feis died, he did it protecting others. you can guarantee that. that's who aaron feis was. >> this is us. that's the new york daily news coverage with 18 shootings in schools alone. a record no other country can match. >> this happens nowhere else
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other than the united states of america. this epidemic of mass slaughter. this scourge of school shooting after school shooting. it only happens here not because of coincidence, not because of bad luck but as a consequence of our inaction. >> it only happens here. this is not a good day. i am andrea mitchell this washington. we continue our coverage of the tragedy in parkland, florida. new details killing 17 people, injurying 14 others. the broward county sheriff joining state and local leaders providing this update this morning. >> all the victims families have been notified. we will be releasing a list of those that lost their lives yesterday. it will be released throughout
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our pio in a very short period of time. we will interview every single student or every person in that school that possibly knew something or might not know they know something. the focus of the fbi is on the successful prosecution of this killer. >> the suspect, 19-year-old nickolas cruz. his past paver alabehavior alarw students. cruz was captured a mile away about an hour later. taken this morning to broward county jail where he's awaiting arraignment this afternoon. president trump remaining silent for nearly 24 hours speaking out moments ago at the white house. >> i want to speak to america's children especially those feeling lost, alone, confused or
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even scare d. you have people who care about you, who love you and who will do anything at all to protect you. if you need help, turn to family member, a teacher, a local police officer or a faith leader. answer hate with love. answer cruelty with kindness. >> for the very latest let's bring in our team nbc tammy lightener in florida. kristen welker and shaun henry, a former fbi executive. tammy, first to you. they're still trying to figure out how this happened. how he got in. this is a very large school, 3,000 plus students. they had exercised, they had
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planned. there's no way to rehearse for this kind of massacre. tammy, i'm not sure if you can hear me. we're bringing you in to tell us how they are reacting today in the aftermath. >> reporter: there was a lot of new information and one of the biggest things we learned was that the fbi learned about nickolas cruz last year. they became aware of him because he posted something on a youtube channel saying i'm going to be a professional school shooter. he posted this under his name. he said they did investigate. they're going to be going back and looking at the digital footprint. we're learning more about the people who died in the shooting. we know there were two faculty members as well as a football
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coach. the coach was aaron feis. we know what happened. aaron feis was an assistant football coach at the school. when the shots rang out, he stepped in front of two students. he used his body as a human shields to protect those two students and save their lives. that's what cost him his life. we know that aaron was also working security and he was a former student himself. we know that all 17 students and teachers have died, all of their families have been notified. some of the families who lost a child, they also had a child who survived. that was a very difficult thing
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to tell them. one other thing the sheriff said is they received a lot of copy cat threats. they are responding to each one as though it's an actual threat. they will prosecute these and sending a message out that every single one of these will be taken seriously. andrea. >> tammy, thank you so much. we want to talk about what the fbi special agent. >> in 2017, the fbi received information about a comment made on a youtube channel. the comment said i'm going to be a professional school shooter. no other information was included with the comment which would indicate a time, location or the true identity of the
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person who made the comment. the fbi conducted database reviews, checks but was unable to further identify the person who made the comment. >> let's talk about fbi investigation. what does the fbi do now? they aring loog bae looking bacg there was a warning. would they have done a better job? we don't know that yet. >> we hear the agent in charge say there was an investigation and they did some checks. whether they koords nate ecoord you tube or the they wouldn't get any type of additional identifying information which would potentially lead them to the person who posted that.
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if they could identify it, they may not have been able to do anything based on existing law. saying i want to be a school shooter, you would expect it wouldn't require additional investigation, they may not have been able to take action unless there was a very specific threat as the agent described. it's really challenging. the laws don't necessarily allow for compulsory mental exami examinations. it may have allowed them to coordinate with the school officials and look at the totality of the circumstances here to make it a determination if they would have been able to escalate this and take some type of law enforcement action that may have allowed them to interdict in this case. >> we don't know if he would come under the broad umbrella under a obama regulation that
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the president trump circumvented which in certain cases restricts gun ownership to people who have been deemed to be mentally challenged or under treat. he was of legal age. legally purchased and the fact that the ban that was enacted in 1994 that these large -- the magazines with these incredible number of rounds have been easily purchased as well. >> that's right. certainly we've heard the outcry from many people. the lash at the nra and that congress needs to do something
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about weapons and who has access to them. i think there's truth in that. there needs to be additional vetting. who can have access to weapons, et cetera. i think we have to look at a much more comprehensive response. when i heard people talk about congress needs to do something and i've been one of those people, there needs to be a federal response to this because this a national problem. it's not just about limiting gun. that's a component but it's about the health care issue. it's about education. it's a totality of a response that looks at how we identify who these people are and what actions can be taken by state, local and federal law enforcement agencies to mitigate the consequences of these attacks. we have to take actions to mitigate them. it's going to be a come prehcope response. >> with all due respect, right
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mow we're doing nothing. that's the problem as we continue to debate. nothing has been done. kristen welker, to that point, we did not hear from the president for 24 hours. a couple of tweets but there was no briefing, no on camera statement. no reaching out on camera to speak to the nation in all these hours. he did speak in very carefully crafted speech on teleprompter. reached out to children, victims and said he would be visiting there. of course, he was planning to go to florida today as well. he would only be 40 miles away. >> that's right. the one other headline is president trump said he will be convening a meeting with governors next month to talk about what type of federal response there can be at the state and local level to address
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this crisis in our country. really speaking to victims, family members and first responders but not really mentioning gun control, gun safety laws. the one gun measure this president has taken was to se verse an obama era law that made it more difficult for people suffering with mental illness to access these types of weapons. he reserved that order. the question becomes what is he prepared to do. we know after the las vegas shooting that occurred in october of 2017, president trump expressed an openness to discussing potential gun safety measures. we were focused on bump stops. that's a conversation we have never heard happen. my colleague peter alexander pressed secretary sanders about what is this administration doing to try to tackle this
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issue. he couldn't really give a response. the last time an administration trying to stiffen laws was under president obama. you'll recall that piece of legislation never went anywhere. it got voted down in the senate. >> my thanks to you. thank you. former arizona congresswoman gabby giffords who is devoting her life since she was shot in 2011 issuing call to action. even in our grief we must summon the courage to fight against this fear. americans must find the courage to imagine a country where these massacres do not occur. our leaders must find the courage to escape the confines of their politics and pursue the moral necessity of peace and
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safety. measuring, we all thought about newton, we have images of columbine. this goes back so many years of children in danger, children at risk being protected by teachers but not by the grown ups in the room who are the state, local, federal legislatures. >> i thought it was interesting that in stephanie ruhl's program that she had on a young high school student named isabella gomez, i think her name was. she was able to see through it. the president makes a statement talks about mourning and people hurting and greeting, sympathies and prayers. there's really no solutions there to this epidemic of gun
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violence. the sad thing is we pretty much have a good idea what works. states that have stronger laws, have significantly less gun violence. congress and the white house are, unfortunately, many members of congress are beholden to the gun lobby. >> when i think back to newton, i think that's the first time that i saw president obama crying as he delivered a statement. he was agonized. just issued a statement now. i think this is on twitter. we're grieving with parkland but we're not powerless. caring for our kids is our first job. until we can honestly say we're doing enough to keep them safe from harm including long overdue common sense gun laws that most americans want, then we have to change. you and gabby giffords have been working so hard on this. where do you see the major obstacles? >> like i said, congress is a
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big obstacle and the states we had a lot of success. we passed over 200 pieces of legislation in 45 different states. things we know work like background checks for all gun stea sales. i thought it was interesting that rick scott said we need to enact laws that keep guns out of the hands of mentally ill or dangerous. that's a good start. one way is you can close the loopholes in our laws that allow people to go to a gun show or buy firearms over the internet without a background check. i hope he follows up on his statements. there's a lot of money in our political process spent by the gun lobby. they because of that money that spent, they have a lot of members of congress in their corner who will not act without their permission.
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what makes it a challenge. the president has an opportunity. leadership is often defined in certain moments. i think he has an opportunity here to show some leadership. i did not see that this morning. i hope after he visits florida and meets with the community down there that he takes some positive steps to address this issue. >> thank you very much. thank you and our best to congresswoman giffords. >> thanks for having me on. >> you bet. joining us now from parkland, florida is the superintendent of broward county public schools. superintendent, first of all, our condolences to you, to your faculty, to your students, your community. i was really struck by you standing at the same news briefing with governor scott about an hour ago. he brushed off questions about gun laws at a briefing last night. i know you're in a moment of
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crisis but you were very straightforward in saying that something has to be done. >> that's correct. i think we have a responsibility to our students, to our community to push for what we know is right. this tragedy makes it very clear that we need to push for more common sense, for gun laws. our students are contacting me, school board members and they're saying, look, you need to start this conversation. we need to have a conversation in this country now on this issue of gun control. secondly, we need to invest in mental health services and supports for our young people to make sure we're providing the right type of interventions so our kids don't get so disconnected that they resort to horrific acts like this.
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i've been in conversations today. i think there's growing support to put more dollars into mental health services. that will be a start. we're going to need to have a state conversation, a national conversation on common sense and more sane gun control laws. >> i have to say all of us have been so struck by the fact that you have this very large school, more than 3,000 students. the harrowism, the composure of students and faculty saving so many lives, potentially. it's extraordinary. the fact that there had been so many drills, so many practices, red alarms. you and the leadership there are to really be congratulated. that said, i'm sure you and others are asking what did we overlook with this young man because his fellow students said they picked him out as the one kid most likely to be a shooter.
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>> i can't get into too many details. we have to protect the information and rights of our students. this student was removed. he was a former student. he was currently enrolled in the district at another facility. we received no warning scien ii about this tragedy. this was a student that had many challenges. again, we've got to provide more services. we only have our kids in school about two-thirds -- about one-third of their time. six hours s or so per day.
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that have issues that we know need to with addressed. again, that is going to require some real courage. is going to require our legislature and leaders to step i and finally do the right thing for our kids. our kids are asking us as adults, leaders in this nation to help them have a better future. >> do you think there need to be bag checks, more security going into the schools? >> you know, you'll never have enough security to be able to prevent some of these situations. this was near dismissal time. if we were in full dismissal mode with hundreds or thousands of kids out trying to get out onto buses and in cars and so forth, that is another situation that we'd have to deal with. we need to get to the root cause
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of some of these issues rather than trying to barricade ourselves around a problem. >> understood. you may welcome into contact with the president of the united states tomorrow. if you have the opportunity, what would you say to him? >> i would tell our president that he can have a legacy that will remain in this country by stepping up and addressing mental health issues and making sure that's a priority and that we invest in our people and our country. number two, that we finally come together as a nation. move beyond our political divisions and have a real conversation with some real results on better gun control laws in this country. that's a legacy that any president should be proud of. that's a legacy that will last for generations. >> superintendent, again, the
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nation mourns for your community, your schools but stands in add miration of everything you're doing in leadership. thank you. >> i'd say the real heroes are in our schools first responders, our teachers that put their lives on the line. thank you. >> thank you so much. coming up, change forever. parkland joining a list of towns that no community ever wants to be part of. i'll talk to state representative and about how his hometown is moving forward. this is msnbc. your brain is an amazing thing. but as you get older, it naturally begins to change, causing a lack of sharpness, or even trouble with recall. thankfully, the breakthrough in prevagen helps your brain and actually improves memory. the secret is an ingredient originally discovered...
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i was in the classroom and all i heard was the gunshots. we went outside and the police clear us, i see dead bodies on the floor. >> i saw two girls next to each other holding hands. there was another body in front of me. there was three on the bathroom door. >> no children should ever have to witness that in their own school. these students describing terror as their former schoolmate carried out a deadly rampage. joining me now is democratic florida state representative.
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1999 graduate. thank you very much for joining us. i know your community is in shock and mourning. how are you doing, your family? you've got young children. >> thank you. good afternoon. it's surreal. i've seen this on tv before. when this comes to your community, you don't know how to explain it. i was with victim's families while they were waiting to find out if their child is in the hospital or laying on the ground in the school. it's like nothing i can even describe. it's so unfortunate. this is not the second time or the third time or the fourth time or the fifth time that we've seen this. >> do you have person
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connections to any of the victims? i know you're counselling them. >> well, the way i found out about is my wife called me to let me know that my son is four, his preschool was on lockdown. he was in his creative writing class at the time. the teacher that was teaching him how to write his name, she lost her daughter in the shooting. >> is that part of the element school that's right next door? this is a campus situation. >> andrea, parkland is a residential community. it's just houses, schools and parks. there's not really anything commercial here. there's one school on top of another school on top of another. there's churches that have schools. there's temples that have schools. every school was on lockdown because parkland's a small city. when this was happening at douglas, there's schools within
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less than a mile, two schools, three schools, four schools less than a mile. >> what do you say to a 4-year-old? can you still hear me? >> yes, i can hear you. >> i'm just wondering what do you say to your 4-year-old, if anything? >> i thank god that he's four and so i don't have to explain this to him, and that my other son is one and i don't have to explain to him. there's parents all over the community, the state, all over the country and say we live in the most powerful country in the world with the strongest military and the strongest economy but we can't keep you safe in school. unfortunately, we've done nothing. i hope this is different. each tragedy we hope is different. i'm hearing good talk out of the
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leaders in tallahassee. i hope we do something but we've done historically nothing. i want elected leaders to look families in face and tell them we're going to do something. if we're going to do nothing, look them in face and tell them we're going to do nothing. president trump, if you're watching, we know you watch the news, a lot of these people may not have voted for you but come here. look them in the face and tell them that you're going to do something. you ran that you were a different person, you weren't an elected official. you wanted to make america great again. come here and tell these people, these families that you're going to help them. >> state representative thank you. i know you're grieving for your community. thank you for joining us. >> thank you. coming up, time for action.
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asking him for healing, he gives us the capability as policy makers to change things. i think instead of excusing this that now's not the time to talk about it and seems to me now is the time to talk about it. not only about mental health and about security at schools but the fact that this kid walked in with an ar-15, assault weapon. we ought to be talking about should we ban assault weapons like banned in the 1990s. we ought to be talking about every state ought to be having background checks when a gun is purchased to see if there's any mental health or criminal record.
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those are the things we augts to be talking about. parents right now that are trying to talk to their children or those parents grieving because they lost 17 in parkland, they are thinking maybe if he didn't have that assault weapon, my child would be alive. >> he made the same appeal and said he's hearing it from students. i was talking to jared, a state rep. he made an urgent appeal. he said you can change your legacy. we thought there was a turning point at newton and there wasn't. kinds kindergarten teachers.
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>> we suffered in florida. pulse nightclub then the fot. lauderdale airport and now this. that's just in florida. i think those that have been afraid because of the gun manufacturing and the power that they bring to the table to influence elections, i think folks have got to relent and say enough is enough. it could be these huge tragedies, grieving parents, community in parkland, this could be the turning point. >> what are you going to say if you have an opportunity to the president given the fact that people, that community now seem to be crying for action not just on mental health but on guns. >> i will repeat what i have just said on the floor of the
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senate. i spoke as the senior senator and he spoke as the junior senator. i said we've got to confront this. i will say that to the president if i see the president down there p i'm hoping that we're going to take care of the daca dreamer kids today and i will be able to get there to broward county tomorrow. >> your colleague said no gun law proposed would prevent this from happening. s >> we don't know that. where in all of these mass shootings, you enumerated some, that go back to columbine, where in all of these mass shootings
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if an assault rifle were not legal and therefore you could not purchase it, would not one of those rifles have been able to be used in the massacre. i was raised on a ranch. i've had guns all my life. i've hunted all my life. i still hunt with my son. you don't need an ar-15 for hunting. that's for killing. >> to say nothing of the magazines now. have you heard from the white house? have you heard from mark short? is anybody from the white house called you as the senior senator from florida? >> no. i assume the president is going tomorrow. maybe i will hear from them. maybe i will see him down there
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in broward county. i have not heard from him. andrea, it's got to start here. as representatives of the people, the people have got to say enough is enough. we're not continuing with all these massacres. we've got to have the representatives of the people in the halls of government respond to that. >> senator bill nelson, thank you very much. thanks for taking time for us today. we appreciate it. >> thanks. coming up, the warning signs. why couldn't police stop the gunman before this young man's deadly ramp aage despite threat he made online months ago. machine to most people, i look like most people. but on the inside, i feel chronic, widespread pain. fibromyalgia may be invisible to others,
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we cannot lose another child in this country to violence in a school. >> what do you do about it? joining me now, sergio. his 15-year-old daughter was a sophomore and inside the school and texted her dad and telling him to call 911. how are you doing and how is your daughter today? >> she's having a very difficult time. she had a tough night. she's looking forward to the counselling and meeting her friends in a group. she doesn't talk much. she hasn't really broken out of her shock, her spell. she hasn't shared, only shared a few things with us. >> from the timeline that i've heard from other student who is have spoken out, they were in there for more than an hour huddled in closets, using their
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phones. those who had phones. describe what you know of what was going on then and what was going on with you then? >> after she called me, i immediately went to the school. i called 911. i went to school. we couldn't get near the school. they had already been barricaded. i texted with her for the first 20 minutes. then our communications were cut off. we did not speak again or text again until she came out of school. there was a relief at the beginning that i knew she was okay and that turned into real terror knowing or not knowing how she was. her teacher had instructed the children to turn off the phones. >> i can't even imagine that. you then hear later the governor and other officials, senator rubio saying that no laws would
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have prevented this. your feelings about that. >> oh, god. here we go again. no laws. tell me why we need an ar-15 to go hunting. for protection. it's the weapon of choice. we live in a society -- yes, i agree with better safety in the schools. yes, we need better mental health in the schools. but we need to -- i don't want to take anyone's handgun. that's not for me to say. but the ar-sa, it's absolutely not relevant to anything we do as a society. listen to law enforcement officials who are dead set against the use of these weapons and the sale of these weapons. we're still -- they're still accepting blood money. governor scott. i heard president trump today. he didn't address the gun issue or the weapons issue. he addressed, and correctly so, better safety in schools. better health care.
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well, finance it if it's better. he gave the great speech about how wonderful kids, we're hear to talk to us. no, you're not. just 30 second clips. when everybody picks up, what happens to those 17 families that are crying for their kids and their friends? what happens to those parents? you know, my daughter is -- she's -- she's almost innocent -- she's not a victim in the sense of victim. the victim, the real victims, are those who are laying down, the parents that lost their kids. we shouldn't have to send our kids to school and worry about when they're coming back. but these are all sound bites. it's time to do something. it's time to, you know, stop accepting blood money. don't be beholden to the nra.
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that's my point. i'm frustrated. i'm angry. i'm angry for those kids. i'm angry for my friends. i'm angry for the tears i saw. i'm angry for the faces i saw. i apologize for going on but i'm passionate about what happened here. but in two months, we're going to be callous and we're going to forget about this. that's the world we live in. >> mr. rosenblat -- >> so if trump wants to do something -- i'm sorry. >> no, go ahead. >> if president trump really means it, show leadership, do something, do something. come here. don't come here and throw paper towels like in puerto rico. you know? the wall -- the wall's not going to protect me. i'm not afraid of of a mexican invasion. i'm afraid of kids going into school with ar-15s and doing this again and again and again and again. and then we're all going to be here, parents like us,
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enormously hurt and annoyed and feel raw emotion and then it's all going to disappear until the next clip. and that's my point. do something. stop talking. prove it. do something. nelson, do something. the rest of congress, do something. until your kids get shot. then you're going to do something. i don't get it. this is not the america i came 50 years ago. i love this country. i don't know this country anymore. i don't understand it. i don't know how to explain it to my kids anymore. i don't know what values are out there. these kids are disenfranchised. who are their heroes? a video game? instagram? we got a lot of work to do. let's start doing something. that's all i recommend, i ask. >> sergio rosenblatt, thank you
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for sharing your thoughts. >> thank you, miss mitchell, thank you for having me. >> we're thinking of you and alexandra and all the other innocent victims because it's not only the dead and injured, everyone has been victimized in your community by this. thank you. >> thank you. >> joining me now is msnbc national security analyst. in the moments left, frank, we can't let this be another n newtown. we have a responsibility too. >> andrea -- yes, andrea, we've got to take action here. you've heard a number of things. just a couple in the short time remaining. let's take baby steps. number one, let's enforce existing laws. very few people can argue against that. let's fund the bureau of alcohol tobacco and firearms. the president says he's a law and order president. let's give law enforcement agencies what they nose to enforce existing laws.
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with regard to legislation, again, baby steps. let's look at enhancing the threshold when you want to purchase an assault weapon. not talking about banning the assault weapon. talking about making yourself accessible and open to a greater background investigation. number three, let's expand the background check database for weapon purchases to include any mention of your name in relation to violence in the fbi's indices. what am i talking about? i'm talking about the fact that we now know someone in mississippi on youtube reported to fbi jackson mississippi that a guy named nikolas cruz was on youtube talking about school shootings. if your name is in the fbi system as someone talking about school shootings and you show up at a gun show or a gun shop to purchase a weapon and we don't know how he purchased the weapon but if he did show up and nikolas cruz comes up and fbi indices, call time-out. call law enforcement. knock on the door. are you the nikolas cruz who's
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been talking about school shootings? let's look at baby steps. >> talking about baby steps which are actually big steps, thank you, craig. more ahead. we'll be right back. another anti-wrinkle cream in no hurry to make anything happen. neutrogena® rapid wrinkle repair® works in just one week. with the fastest retinol formula available. it's clinically proven to work on fine lines and wrinkles. one week? that definitely works! rapid wrinkle repair®. and for dark spots, rapid tone repair. neutrogena®. see what's possible.
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and that does it for today's report. andrea mitchell reports. remember, follow us online on facebook and twitte twitter @mitchellreports. we're going to talk tomorrow
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about the nra funding of members of congress. >> that was an incredible hour. the father you were talking to earlier. when he said i'm not concerned about a mexican invasion, i'm concerned about a kid with an ar-15. i'm a dad. that resonates with me. i think a lot of people are thinking the sail thing today. >> it's a big question, isn't it? >> yes. good afternoon to you. i'm peter alexander in washington. following latest developments in the breaking news. the president addressing the nation and announcing he's headed for the site of one of the nation's worst mass shootings. we are expecting the suspect in that shooting, in those shootings, to be arraigned in just about an hour on 17 counts of premeditated murder. police reporting copycat threats made at other schools after the deaths of 17 people. at a high school in broward county, florida. we do expect another briefing from officials about an hour from now. we'll take you