today, the breaking news happening this afternoon. of course, indictments for paul manafort, a guilty plea for rick gates. the rachel maddow show starts right now. good evening, rachel. good evening, chris. thanks at home for joining us as well. what did you do this week? like, today's friday. since last friday any significant accomplishments that you would like to brag about? have you had a big week? if you are robert mueller over the past week, just since last friday, you have unsealed 89 new felony criminal charges against 17 different people. from rickey punato to alex -- to 13 russian nationals including a billionaire to the last two days of legal canon blasts concerning trump campaign chair paul manafort and deputy campaign chair rick gates. i don't know what robert mueller

has been doing for the past week other than filing these 89 new felony criminal charges against 17 people, but even just that activity of his that we can see in public, i would say that makes this a pretty good contender for busy week when it comes to the special counsel's investigation. just today alone has been head snapping in terms of how much happened all at once. just since yesterday, just rick gates have been charged with 23 new felonies on top of the eight he was already facing. he then had his entire legal team replaced. then he got a new lawyer, and then he had all 31 felony charges pending against him dropped. then he pled guilty to two brand new felony charges, and then he signed onto a sweeping and sort of intimidating cooperation agreement with the government which among other things he pledges to go undercover for

them if they and him to. can rick gates go undercover anymore now that he's this famous for what he and paul manafort have gotten themselves into? if you have tried to follow each step of this as it has rolled out, even for the past day, it has been a little hard to follow. but days like this i am very grateful for the very smart people who work with me on this show. and thanks to a very smart staff here and us reading until our eyes bled, we have read every word in terms of what happened in terms of these legal proceedings. and based on that, here's where i think we are. this is the trump deputy campaign manager. everybody talks about him as paul manafort's deputy. but when it comes to the trump campaign rick gates was actually there for a lot longer than paul manafort was. manafort was pushed out in 2016,

but thereafter rick gates stayed. he was there through the duration of campaign and through election day and then he was a senior official in the trump transition and after the inauguration he was frequently seen at the white house. he worked in a pro-trump outside group and also has long time tiewise the republican national committee. people talk about him as manafort's deputy. and he has had a long-standing relationship with paul manafort, but in terms of his role as a potential witness. in terms of his role for the investigator scene, in terms of what he might have seen, what and who he might have been exposed to in terms of trump as a candidate and trump as a president, rick gates has potentially been a witness to a lot more than manafort saw.

he was there for a lot longer and for a lot of extra parts of this, the trump presidential era that manafort ended up missing. rick gates becoming a cooperating witness i think is a big leap forward in terms of how much a window the mueller investigation is going to have in all different phases of the trump candidacy and the trump presidency. now, rick gates today pled guilty to two felonies. one of them is lying to the fbi. interestingly, though, this guilty plea for lying to it fbi, it's not for something that happened a long time ago but something that happened really, really recently which he pled guilty today, which he admits to now, it was something that happened earlier this month. february 1, 2018, a lie about a meeting a few years ago that relates to him and paul manafort lobbying for a foreign power without being registered as

lobbying for a foreign power. rick gates has been thinking about for a long time -- he talked about agonizing over that decision and not wanting to do this. but when he made that false statement to the fbi on february 1st, that appears to have started a collapse for him. that same day february 1st, his three lawyers at the time told the judge in his case they no longer wanted to represent him. a really unusual mood. at the time we didn't know why they suddenly wanted to withdrew from representing rick gates. there's been since conflicting reports about his representation. the court has been stewing over this request from his lawyers for three weeks since they first said they wanted to quit him. now it all seems clear why his lawyers sought to get rid of him, sought to withdraw from his case february 1st, because that

day february 1st he told a lie to the fbi. and it is an ethical imperative in some cases in the legal profession to withdraw if you are representing a client who is lying and you can't do anything about it. it's also just a terrible thing to do. i mean i'm not talking ethically or what it says about you as a person if you lie. i mean it's a terrible thing to do strategically for your own criminal case. if you're in the middle of a plea negotiation with prosecutors or fbi agents and you tell them something that is provably false in the middle of those plea negotiations at that point they just push back from the table and go we sunk your battleship. that's what they are desperately waiting for you to do. as soon as you provably lie to them in a plea negotiation, they've got you. once you lie to them you lose immunity from prosecution from everything else you've already told them over the course of your negotiations. lying during a plea negotiation is a terrible move.

if rick gates didn't realize what a bad move that was, robert mueller's prosecutors decided to make that crystal clear to him yesterday when they indicted him for 23 new felony charges on top of the ones he was already facing. yesterday they hit him with more new felonies than they even threw at paul manafort. and that blast seems to have done the trick. now gates is pleading guilty to that incident of lying to it fbi and also to a broader conspiracy charge. conspiracy to defraud the united states. for that charge they appeared to have lumped together, to have combined a whole bunch of other allegations he was facing from his other indictments. the previous indictments now disappear. the government is not going to proceed with the 31 felonies it was charging with him as of this morning. instead he's going to plead guilty to this one conspiracy charge and this one lying charge. and in so doing he also signs a cooperation agreement that looks like a nightmare scenario.

not only for him, particularly if he was having a hard time deciding whether or not he was going to do this, but the cooperation agreement he just signed is probably a nightmare scenario for a number of other people as well. i don't know if you've seen the actual documents here. this is from the plea offer which we all got access to today. this was filed in the court openly today. and the plea agreement was filed to letter who is now rick gates' lawyer. cooperation. your client shall cooperate fully, truthfulfully and completely forthrightly with this office and other law enforcement authorities identified by this office. and this cooperation will include but not limited to the following. the defendant, rick gates, agrees to be fully debriefed and

attend all meetings includesing his participation in and knowledge of all criminal activities. the defendant also agrees to furnish to the office all documents and other material that may be relevant to the investigation and that are in the defendant's possession for control. the defendant also agrees to participate in undercover activities pursuant to specific instructions of law enforcement agents or this office. the defendant also agrees to testify in any proceedings in the district of columbia or elsewhere as requested by this office. your client acknowledges and understands that during the course of this cooperation outlined by this agreement your client will be interview bide law enforcement agents and government attorneys. your client waives any right to have counsel present during these interviews. your client shall also testify fully, completely and truthfully before any and all grand juries in the district of columbia and elsewhere and at any and all

trials of cases or other court proceedings in the district of columbia and elsewhere. at which your client's testimony may be deemed relevant by the government. ouch. this is very -- this is very thorough agreement to cooperate. testify to grand jury, testify at trial, show up whenever we need you, go undercover, give us everything you've got and be here every single time we want to talk to you. if he fails to live up to this cooperation agreement, whether or not they ever decide to bring any other charges against him, just this plea agreement he signed today gives mueller's office tons of leverage over rick gates. just what he's pleading guilty to today affords a maximum prison sentence of ten years in prison. even under the previous sentencing guidelines, the filings today make clear today these two charges he pled guilty

today, yeah, there's a maximum prison term of ten years. but realistically they'd be looking to put him in prison for somewhere between 4 1/2 to 6 years. that's realistic time. they don't have to put him in jail for 4 1/2 to 6 years for these things he pled guilty to today. the court, of course, could decide him to give him nothing or just probation, all depending on how well he cooperates with robert mueller. if he does what they want, the court may very well say, rick, you're free to go. but if he blows it or holds anything back to them, or lies or refuses to hand something over, boom, done, with nothing else filed he would be going to prison right away for let's start with 4 1/2 years. for context here in contrast the cooperation agreement that mueller did with mike flynn,

that puts mike flynn's jail risk at zero to six months. what's hanging over rick gates right now is multiple years starting right away and he's already signed for it. so this cooperation deal that he signed today, these two charges that he pled guilty to, this has been put together as a very serious package for trump's deputy campaign manager, and it therefore puts a spotlight on what gates could possibly give mueller for his ongoing investigation. and here's the part i think is really important. and i will say i think so much of this is happening so fast i'm not sure this really important part of it has sunk in yet. but after marinating in these legal filings in my opinion i think this is the most important piece. the special counsel's office spelled out in intense detail a two part scheme by manafort and gates.

part one we already knew about. part one was the older stuff from 2006 to 2015 before the trump presidential campaign. phase one, manafort and gates were raking in tens of millions of dollars working for pro-putin interests overseas. the special counsel's office say they illegally hid that money offshore, didn't pay taxes on that money. that's all the charges associated with mueller's office calls phase one. what was was new was phase two of their scheme, which you can think of as the donald trump for president time. the sixty-second part of their scheme according to mueller's indictment started in 2015 and ran until, quote, at least january 2017. which was of course the inauguration. in yesterday's indictment that second part of the scheme, 2015 to 2017, that's a time when manafort and gates have stopped

raking in millions of dollars for their work for pro-putin interests overseas, and instead according to the indictment they are engaged here in a mad scramble to get their hands on cash, a lot of cash, millions of dollars in cash in a very short period of time. in late 2015 and early 2016 they weren't trying to earn new business for their company, at least not what we know of. the way they were trying to get money is they were trying to use the assets manafort had. chiefly they were trying to use real estate assets manafort already had in this country to try to extract cash from those assets. they were going to bank after bank after bank putting up manafort's various houses and apartments as collateral to trial try to get cash, multi-million dollar loans. why do they need all that cash? i don't know.

but according to the indictment they were trying to get lots of different loans from lots of different banks simultaneously and according to the indictment they were breaking the law. they were falsifying documents and inventing fake invoices to make it look like they had more coming in. they were doctoring documents. the book keeper from manafort's company was turning them down for some of the stuff they were trying to get the book chemoer to do, and they started faking these documents themselves. the details of that mad scramble for cash, that was the basis for all the new bank fraud and bank fraud conspiracy felony charges that manafort and gates got hit with yesterday. and that apparently pushed gates to plead guilty and now manafort is now facing those charges alone because gates has decided to save himself and flip in exchange for most of those charges against him being dropped. in terms of the overall plot here, not just thinking about

their legal liability, how does this pertain to our country, we don't know why manafort was in a such a mad scramble for cash. this is from last summer july 2017, quote, financial records from the secretive bank accounts, indicated that manafort had been indebt to pro-russia interests by as much as $20 million when he joined trump's campaign in 2016. remember when all that stuff broke, about him being in really a heavy debt? up close in the moment this looked like a very complicated story. nobody has bank accounts in cyprus associated with their own

name, but disentangling it, right up through that time when he's having that inexplicable mad scramble to get his hand on millions of dollars in cash he was in debt to russian interests tuesday the tune of about $17 million, including $7.8 million he owed to a russian oligarch that's very close to putin. he's been denied a vicea to the united states because of what the government believes his links to organized crime. manafort was in hot to this guy for nearly $8 million. part of the scheme that was describing yesterday's indictment is sometimes manafort and gates would call something a loan when it was really just money being paid to them, and that was part of their tax evasion scheme.

in this case to oleg deripaska, this $8 million, it really looks like that was a loan. at least it really looks like oleg deripaska expected to get that money back from manafort and rick gates. and we know that because he tried to get it back. he sued manafort and gates in the cayman islands to try get back millions of dollars he says they stole from him. they were all supposed to be investing in something together, but he said manafort and gates ran off with millions of dollars of his money. in 2015 he moved that lawsuit from the cayman islands to the u.s., to virginia. he was really going after manafort and gates for millions of dollars he said they stole from him and they needed to pay back. again, august 2015 he moves that case to virginia. once that case moves to the united states they end up deposing manafort and rick gates in that case because deripaska

is coming after him. deripaska himself isn't allowed to come to the united states because of those crime ties, but he is in the russian government and has people working on this case. but then manafort and gates sipe onto become chairman and deputy chairman of the trump campaign and all of a sudden again the pressure seems to go away. quote, early in the presidential campaign deripaska representatives openly accused manafort of fraud. after trump's nomination deripaska's representatives said they would no longer discuss the case. and we also now know that something was going on during the trump campaign. while manafort and gates were chairman and deputy chairman something was going on between them and deripaska, during the campaign, while that you were

running the campaign. quote, on april 11, 2016, two weeks after donald trump hired the political consultant, manafort to lead his campaign, manafort wrote quote, i assume you have shown our friends my media coverage. and he responded quote, absolutely, every article. manafort then asked how do we use to get whole? has ovd operation seen? ovd, oleg deripaska. his campaign chairman offered to provide briefings. paul manafort made the offering in e-mails asking that a message be sent to oleg deripaska, an aluminum magnate in which manafort had done business with

in the past. he wrote quote, if he needs private briefings we can accommodate. quote, on july 29th, a week after trump accepted the republican nomination manafort received another e-mail from constantine talking about what appeared to be a meeting he held with oleg deripaska. quote, we spent about five hours talking. i have several important messages from him to you. he asked me to go and brief you on our conversation. it has to do about the future of his country, and it's quote interesting. let me know what dates and places will work. even next week i could come and see you. manafort's response was quote, tuesday is best. and then august 2nd was indeed the next tuesday and constantine came over, and they had a long meeting at the grand havana club in new york city. so according to bank records

paul manafort owed this russian guy nearly $8 million, and this russian guy was really coming after him for it. and simultaneously for some reason paul manafort at the time was really scrambling to do what he could get his hands on millions of dollars in cash, and this was right up until he joins the trump campaign. he then joins the trump campaign, the pressure eases off a bit in terms of this guy coming off him for the money, and he starts communicating with this guy. can we use my position in the campaign. he accepts meetings and important messages from this guy about the future of his country. his country is russia. a month after manafort reportedly met with constantine to get these messages from deripaska, we now know from the indictment that rick gates

referred alex van der zwann to that guy. and we know one of the things he lied about was his communication with rick gates. rick gates in 2016 sent van der zwann documents with an encrypted app and he put him in contact. and they had a conversation in russia about payments that were just the tip of the iceberg and about potential legal liability for paul manafort. rick gates was connect today the mad and illegal scramble for cash right before manafort and gates joined the trump campaign. he was part of the initial deals that incurred that debt from deripaska. he was in communication with constantine who was managing communications while manafort was running trump's campaign. that was all happening during the trump campaign while they

were the top two officials running it. manafort seems to have been trying to trade on his influence in the trump campaign to get hold of oleg deripaska back in russia. there have been a lot of, forgive me, a lot of dumb hot takes on the rick gates guilty plea today about oh, too bad for rick gates or paul manafort. about this is only about their financial ties, nothing to do with the trump campaign, though. it's not about hiding money offshore and buying antique rugs in alexandria. clearly the indictments have proved they've got all they need for that stuff. what he was part of at a better vantage point than almost

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tonight the white house issued a one sentence statement saying it would, quote, not be commenting on matters involving paul manafort or rick gates. as the matters between them and the office of special counsel are dated and have nothing to do with their service to the trump campaign. that is despite today's new indictments and guilty pleadings specifically referencing events during and after the trump campaign. following the guilty plea from trump deputy chairman rick gates today, the top democrat on the house intelligence committee offered a different take. he said, quote, rick gates was in a position to observe the

inner workings at a senior level. and gates could prove a key source of information on these and other issues. joining us now is the top democratic on the intelligence committee, congressman adam schiff. thank you for being with us tonight. i really appreciate it. >> thank you. >> why do you think that gates could be a key source of information on the central matter at hand here? >> well, you have paul manafort who was the campaign chair for a period of time and cory lewandowski who was the trump campaign chair for a period of time. and rick gates also played a role in the transition and thereafter. so he's in a position to see the whole length and breadth of what was taking place during the campaign. he traveled on the presidential plane for a period of time. and he's obviously facing extraordinary liability.

and i think one of the messages mueller was sending through the charge on the false statement and the other actions we've seen him take visa vi paul manafort is he's not going to tolerate any nonsense. the worst thing for rick gates right now would be to agree to cooperate and then be found to be less than fully forthcoming. so that means gates is going to have to tell bob mueller everything and hold nothing back, and he could have a lot to offer. as you were pointing out, at the very time the russians were making overtures to the trumpcome pain, to manafort and kushner and don junior to that meeting in trump tower, you have manafort reaching out to oleg deripaska, if these e-mails are correct, that he hopes will facilitate more money. and you already have now a guilty plea in connection with essentially gates and manafort

obtaining surreptitious money, millions of dollars worth of it, laundering that money and lying about it. so there's enormous liability facing them both, and gates is in a position to talk about a great deal. >> congressman, in the past week we've seen a remarkable amount of activity from the special counsel's office. i've probably got the math wrong, but by my best count i think we've seen 89 felony charges brought against 17 people in the course of a week. and now we've got the deputy trump campaign chairman pleading guilty f guilty. through the indictments wave seen through the past week or so aside from the legal jeopardy these folks may be facing, big picture do you feel like the special counsel's investigation has now told us more than we knew before about the central question, about the russian attack, about if they had help?

do we understand more from these filings about that main plot line? >> oh, absolutely. i i think that was part of bob mueller's intention. if you look at the indictment via vee the russians, he told us a lot more detail than i would have frankly expected. and that would have had to be part of the agreement with the intelligence community to go into that kind of detail. because just giving that detail gives the russians some information that they could reverse engineer and see what are the sources of that information. and that indictment, the kremlin was going how in the hell do the americans know so much, and i think he was wanting to tell the country about this russian attack on our democracy. and these indictments also tell m manafort just how much the special counsel knows, and that

statement manafort issued today was telling. so many figures in the campaign facing liability or in the administration, they have an oddgence od audience of one in that message. and it was basically saying please give me a pardon. i'm not going to do what rick gates did. i'm standing by you, but he's obviously facing enormous liability, and now an insider cooperating. and i think the detail of those indictments show him as well as the country just what these guys were involved with. >> congressman adam schiff, the top democrat on the intelligence committee joining us. thank you very much for being here. >> thank you. we've got much more ahead on this friday night. i feel like we haven't even started. stay with us. ♪ i feel like fire ( ♪ ) the 2018 cadillac xt5.

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erin price, scott -- >> this was a vigil tonight in newton, connecticut for the 17 people killed in parkland, florida. it means something different when it happens in newton compared to everybody else just because of what newton itself has gone through. but all over the country the kinetic energy of protests have put pressure to bring about gun reform. they've specifically pressured the nra and its grip on electoral politics coast to coast. but here's something you should know about that loosening grip. this week both houses of the legislator in the state of oregon passed a bill that changes gun laws in that state. people subjected to court ordered restraining orders, it blocks them from owning or buying guns.

the bill closes a loophole that allows convicted domestic abusers and stalkers to buy illegal firearms if they don't have children together. and week after this bill passed. it got bipartisan support. gun control measures are always met with impassioned opposition. this was no exception, but this bill prevailed in part from very personal pleas. one talked about the abuse she and her mother suffered at the hands of her mother. state senator floyd perzansky

talked about his sister whose death he said might have been prevented by this bill that just passed. >> the majority of mass shootings, 55% involve instances of domestic violence. with thiincident with my sister her murderer was her loif, her intimate partner. her murder was her domestic abuser. here murderer killed her with a handgun. >> this will was actually introduced before the shooting in parkland, florida. but then 24 hours after the shooting the oregon house of representatives pass it. yesterday the state senate followed suit, and the governor of oregon who championed this bill, when she signed it she was able to invoke the singular nature of the protests we have seen in last week's shooting.

it took the youth to hold decision makers feet to the fire. joining us from washington, d.c. is the governor of oregon. governor, bro governor brown, thank you for joining us. >> good evening, rachel. and i'm delighted to be here tonight. >> i know you lobbied for this bill. you were a strong supporter of this bill. i was interested to see this bill was proposed before what happened last week in parkland, florida. do you think there would have been the momentum or political wherewithal to get this bill passed and signed without the change that we've seen over the past week, the national revulsion and national organizing in the wake of that parkland massacre? >> this is legislation that i introduced to close the intimate partner loophole in oregon. i introduced it, obviously, before the florida shooting. it is work that we have been doing gradually and incrementally in the state since

i became governor. the first year i became governor we signed into a law a comprehensive background check legislation. last year i was able to sign into law the extreme risk protection order, which enables family and friends to petition courts and take guns away from those who might be a danger to themselves or others. and i introduced this legislation to close the intimate partner loophole. we certainly had good support. as you said the opposition is well-funded, and they are well-organized. but we have courageous legislators in oregon, both parties. representative janine soleman, floyd perzansky, speaking out in favor of the bill. i have to say what happened in florida, unfortunately, last week moved it along much more quickly. >> there's such a wide range of

not just opinion but political rancor over gun laws. there's so many different ways to approach the problem of gun violence in this country. when i think about sort of the low hanging fruit, the policies that seem they'd be most feasible to enact, that would address the largest part of the problem. so much gun violence, so many gun deaths particularly of women are caused in domestic situations. 93% of women killed by men in 2015 were murdered by someone they knew. this just feels like the most direct way, one of the biggest parts of the problem. >> rachel, this is an epidemic. an epidemic of gun violence. since i became governor in the last two years we've had 66 people die as a result of domestic violence. half of those deaths were caused by guns. 4.5 million women in america have been impacted by gun

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brief the president of south korea in south korea on the new sanctions. the person assigned to perform this sensitive task is ivanka, the president's daughter. awkwardly the president's daughter is one of dozens of white house officials who have not been able to get a permanent security clearance. nevertheless, she's briefing the south korean president herself on the new north korea sanctions today. today was the deadline set by the chief of staff by which everybody at the white house who couldn't get permanent clearance, as of today they were supposed to lose interim clearance today, presumably that would include the president's daughter, as well as her husband, jared kushner, who gets the top secret presidential brief every day, meets with leaders, gets the trade deals, tasked with personally negotiating mideast peace all without being able to pass his fbi background check to get a

permanent security clearance. and he still doesn't seem to be any closer to getting clearance. "the washington post" reported that deputy attorney general rod rosenstein this month alerted the white house that significant information requiring additional investigation will further delay kushner's clearance process. the president could just decide to grant his son-in-law any security clearance he wants to. but the president said at the white house today he's not going to get involved. he's going to let white house chief of staff, john kelly, make the call on classified materials. well, according to "the washington post," john kelly said he's uncomfortable with the clearance. he said, quote, he would not be upset if the son-in-law and ivanka trump left their position as full time employees. so what does that mean? what kind of job does jared kushner have as of tonight? what about ivanka trump briefing

the president in south korea. does she have a job when she comes back? it's going to be a fun weekend. no one has ever fired the son and daughter before without having a say in it. that does it for us. we'll see you on monday. now it's time for the last word with joy reed. >> that's right. >> here's a visual reminder if you kept the news on this weekend, joy reed. >> i might have a job for the kushners, right? if they need new digs. cpac communications director. the current one, not to say this person won't be in the job -- did you hear about it? >> no. >> at the reagan dinner, this person is sitting at a table with other republicans at the