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tonight, back to the future. a u.s. hockey team wins olympic gold. the president basques in cheers of lock her up. the nation grapples with whether we can do something about mass shootings. this is "kasie d.c." welcome to "kasie d.c." we are live from washington every sunday from 7:00 to 9:00 p.m. eastern. tonight, congress returns from winter break as students and teachers return to stoneman douglas high school. we'll hear from some of them, and congressman and former florida governor charlie crist.
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will anything happen this time? and later, midterm madness. a legal fight is on to keep republican seats in republican hands. we are joined by congressman ryan costello of pennsylvania. plus, is bob corker about to become a candidate again for his own seat? von hilliard brings us the murky state of play from memphis, tennessee. but first, the mass shooting in parkland, florida, did not produce the same old gun debate. it has been the voices of students that have made this one different. they have organized marches, flooded the state house in tallahassee, and demanded action from elected officials. some are listening. florida's republican governor rick scott who has an a-plus rating with the nra announced a proposal that includes banning firearm sales to anyone younger than 21. >> i think most members in nra agree with me, this is logical. i'm sure there are going to be some that disagree. but i'm a dad and a grand dad and a governor.
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i want my state to be safe. i want every child to be in a safe environment when they're trying to be educated. >> meanwhile, a cnn pole released today showed 7 in 10 americans support stricter gun laws, up from over 50% in october. but congress returns tomorrow, and the question remains. what happens next at the federal level? the president has offered up a range of ideas to enhance school safety. most notably, training and arming teachers, and there is some legislation in the works. but, of course, for any piece of legislation to go anywhere, it first has to earn the support of republican leadership. and so far mitch mcconnell and paul ryan have been publicly silent on what, if anything, will actually make it to the floor. but one thing is clear. the students of marjory stoneman douglas high school who resume classes this week will be watching. with that i'd like to welcome in my panel.
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national political reporter for axios, jonathan swan. catty kay, and coauthor of the political play book, jake sherman. thank you all for being here tonight. i want to focus our conversation here at the beginning of the show on just what, if anything, could possibly happen. jake sherman, this issue is particularly difficult in the house of representatives where the speaker faces a choice about whether or not to put the most likely of these in congress. and feel free to disagree with me, but it seems this fix nix bill that would have made changes to the shooting that happened in sutherland springs could potentially be a st. louis. the house has already passed it but they're demanding other things, concessions to the national rifle association. is there anything that will get done in congress? >> first of all, most of the people i talk to don't believe there is a legislative solution. most republicans. there is a split. there are conservatives in the house who say this is a tipping point. i think if anything happens --
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and again, far from certain, it's some sort of bolstering of back ground checks and maybe something on bump stocks. this is low hanging fruit stuff. i want to be like abundantly clear here. there's no chance they're going to raise the age to buy any weapons. there's no chance there is going to be an assault weapons ban. there is really no chance that congress is going to approve some sort of sweeping arming your teachers movement that the president seems to be interested in. and if there is a way to get this done, the president would be wise to focus on one or two things that are kind of easy, and there are those things. >> catty kay, what jake just laid out feels to me like really nothing changes very much. >> yeah, these are the things that people who support tighter gun controls would say america should have done years and years ago. bump stocks seem obvious, firming up the background check seems fairly obvious. the only thing i can imagine would change it, you've seen some corporate response to this that we haven't seen before.
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that's new over the course of this weekend. that cnn poll is interesting for two reasons. the people who support raising the age limit, 70%. the tense factor. if people start to make this a voting issue for themselves, it's never been on the side of people supporting gun control. if that becomes a voting issue in some districts, running up to the midterm elections maybe you start to see a shift. >> jonathan swan, do you think the president is going to push congress on this issue? >> the problem with the president in any of these issues is consistency and keeping anything sustained. i believe he'll keep it sustained as long as it's on tv and it's an issue in the media. i find it hard to believe that he'll really make a long-term sustained public argument to raise the age, which is really the thing where he's crossed the nra. on everything else the nra is fine with his position because it's not controversial as jake pointed out. things like the cornyn bill and bump stocks and, you know, some of the arming teachers, which is
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really a state issue. i mean, they're obviously fine with that. the concern that i hear from leadership, republican leadership, also in the senate, is the sort of christmas tree approach. if everyone starts attaching -- they have some sort of gun control bill and people start putting their own things on it, almost no chance of getting anything done. it has to be probably something modest and narrow. >> right. and the question, of course, will what the students bring to the table make any difference. so that point people have been coming to washington for, frankly, too many years trying to do something about stopping these mass shootings. and now this tragic torch is being passed. in the wake of newtown, parents descended on the capital. this was back in 2013, to work with a bipartisan group of senators.
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>> let's all share. i can't imagine. >> okay, ladies and gentlemen. thank you very much. >> thank you. >> mark martin has been to the white house more than once. the first time was after he lost his son daniel at sandy hook, and he was there again this week to meet with another president about a national solution for mass shootings. >> this is my little daniel. i've been holding up pictures of my little daniel since the day he was murdered at sandy hook elementary school. and here we are again. here we are again trying to figure out what the hell are we going to do about this.
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five years, i'm sick of this. i'm sick of having to figure this out. these are my other two children, james and natalie. james and natalie are in high school now. james is a senior at newtown high school and natalie is a sophomore. believe me when i tell you the laws of odds and averages don't make us immune that this could happen to us again. this could happen to you. that's why i'm asking for your help. we need to do something. and you know who is doing something? are these amazing high school students. oh, my god, what a force to be reckoned with. that is a no [ bleep ] constituency that is speaking up, and they are protecting their own future. they are not going to be intimidated by corporate greed. they're not going to be bullied by money and power. they want to fix this and they're going to do it, and let's help them, too. [ applause ] >> katty kay, we are talking in a way that reflects the
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experience that we felt after i covered -- i was in the room with joe manchin when that happened. and the conversation started out as let's ban these assault weapons. let's limit the size of magazines. let's do all of these things and what they came down to was a proposal to expand background checks that then couldn't pass the congress. can these high school students make a difference? >> well, they couldn't pass the congress not just because of republicans, right? it also couldn't pass because of those five democratic senators who found themselves in an impossible position. i think jonathan has it. it depends how long this stays in the media and we're going to have this huge big march on march 24th. it will be all over our television screens. if they can keep up a public awareness campaign, that could start perhaps to shift things. but i fear we're back in the territory of the tiny things that ought to have happened that seem to obvious, what happened so many times after the shootings. >> can i make a point? a lot of these republicans -- i've said this a few times now. i think people need to keep this
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in mind. the country is drawn -- congressional seats are drawn where a lot of people, members of congress go home every weekend to picnics and barbecues and political events where their constituents are carrying guns and all they hear from their constituents is, okay, you're going to start here. what's next? are they going to take my purse poll next? are they going to take away my ability to protect my family? so i think a lot of republicans go home and their view is enforced and it's informed by the fact that their constituents in a lot of these dikts have not moved. and it makes it very difficult politically internally for the leadership, for paul ryan and kevin mccarthy to move. >> we also haven't seen -- we see these young kids doing, you know, incredible speeches on tv. but we haven't seen that turned into a fear some voting force. >> that's right. >> it's hard to think of an election that was won on a gun control message -- >> in ten days, though -- >> i'm not talking about this
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weekend. if you look at the last 20 years, election s have been won on a gun rights platform, but not the opposite. >> it hasn't been a single issue. >> what did you take away? one thing i thought was interesting was rick scott coming out. he hasn't announced or said whether he's going to run for senate or not, but it struck me that he was crossing the nra on this question of how old you should be to buy one of these guns. whether that's simply a reflection of the fact that i -- i do not doubt this is going to be a front and center issue in any florida statewide race come the fall. the question for me whether this becomes national. if this is a signal to republicans, hey, this is a place where we should move or is he protected by the president? >> i think it all comes back whether people start making the phone calls on the other side of the argument. we're all saying this. this has been the issue. people have voted consistently and call their members of congress consistently in favor of the second amendment and gun rights. we haven't ever seen people calling. and if this translates into that movement, then potentially you have people like rick scott who
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feel that they want to do things, even if it's on a statewide level. >> amy walter did an excellent piece a few days ago. the pew research shows twice as many gun owners called their member of congress after gun control. we see a lot of the intensity but the actual intensity has been historically with the gun rights crowd. it is important to keep in mind. >> today students were allowed to return to marjory stoneman douglas high school for the first time since the mass shooting there. parents also joined for what was called an open house before the official start of classes on wednesday. melissa is a teacher at marjory stoneman douglas. during the shooting she hid 19 students and herself in the closet of her classroom for over half an hour. she joins me now from parkland, florida. melissa, thank you so much for being here tonight. i really appreciate it. a >> hi, thank you for having me. >> can you take us into the classroom today? this was your first day back at school. what was it like?
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>> actually i went back to school for the first time on thursday. i was the only one who was there. there were administrators, but i felt like it was really important for me to go back and stand in my classroom and sort of deal with whatever feelings i had about that. so, today was actually the third time i've been in my room since this happened. >> and were you there with your students today? what was the atmosphere like with the community at the high school? >> i think everyone is sort of uncertain about, you know, how we move forward. there were students there. there were parents there. it was an optional event for teachers and students. so, i mean, i think people are sort of feeling out how they feel whether they're ready to come back. some teachers may not be ready to come back. some students may not be ready to come back. the district has said that
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they're committed to working with everybody in terms of, you know, in their own time and what do they need and how can the district support them. >> one of the proposals that the president has advocated in the wake of what happened at your school is the possibility of teachers arming themselves and carrying guns in the classroom. is that something that you personally would consider or feel comfortable with? and do you think it's good policy across the board? >> no, it's not something i'm comfortable with. i think it's a terrible policy. it doesn't solve the problem at hand. it creates new problems, you know, in terms of where is it going to be stored? and what happens if a student gets their hands on it? what happens if the wrong teacher has a weapon? i don't believe it would have helped in this instance either because you're bringing a hand gun like a concealed weapon is a hand gun to a fight with someone who is armed with, you know, an
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ar-15. so, i feel -- i honestly -- it's a terrible policy. >> the president has also said that he wanlts to harden school. what do you take away from that framing of it and what do you think should be done to try and physically protect schools if anything? >> i mean, we're already doing a lot of those things. you know, most schools -- in our district schools are fenced. there is a single entry point. you have to come in, show your driver's license in order to gain access to the school, even to pickup your student. i'm not sure what hardening the school looks like. i don't know if that means like metal detectors, bullet proof glass. to me it seems it's the same as arming the teachers. it's like miss direction from the problem at hand. when are we going to talk about these assault rifles and whether or not that's the type of weapon we want civilians carrying around in our society.
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so, i support the idea of strengthening security but i don't know how much farther we can actually go. i mean, i don't support the idea of turning our schools into some form of like military compounds because our schools are supposed to be a safe place for kids to come, like a home away from home. and the idea of, you know, turning it into something that is so heavily guard and had protected as opposed to looking at the issues at hand just doesn't seem to make sense. i don't know where the money is going to come from for this either. >> the broward county sheriff's department has been on defense over how they handled this. scott israel was on cnn earlier today. i want to show you that clip and talk about. >> are you not taking any responsibility for the multiple red flags that were brought to the attention of the broward sheriff's office about this shooter before the incident? >> i can only take responsibility for what i knew about. i exercised my due diligence. i have given amazing leadership to this agency --
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>> amazing leadership? >> yes, jake. >> do you think that they showed amazing leadership here? >> i mean, i think what happened with the broward sheriff's office in terms of how many times, you know, they were called out, you know, to deal with this particular individual, i think, you know, scott israel pointed out the other day they have limited power in terms of, you know, what they're able to do and so i think that is sort of indicative of the problem, too. i don't think the problem is just assault rifles. the problem is, you know, whether or not law enforcement has the ability to take an individual that they think is a threat and have them, you know, examined by medical professionals. i think there is an issue with funding for mental health. so, i think it sort of leads into the bigger problems. my issue, you know, with politicians is that they want to talk about all these other pieces, but they want to leave
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out the assault rifle piece. and i think we have to have a conversation about all of it so that we can actually make our kids at school safer and our society safer at large. >> melissa, thank you very much for your time tonight. really appreciate it. >> thank you. >> we have much more to come on "kasie d.c." ivanka trump and donald trump, jr., representing the u.s. abroad. we will have peter alexander's exclusive interview with the first daughter. plus, jonathan swan with two very interesting, shall we say, exclusive scoops about how the president wants to handle some drug dealers. all drug dealers, perhaps. but first republican congressman ryan costello joins me on set. you're watching "kasie d.c." not only does it hold for 12 hours to reduce denture movement, it also helps provide better bite, seals out 74% more food particles, and enhances your denture fit. in fact, 95% of super poligrip® users surveyed
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on the idea of raising the age of assault weapons from 18 to 21, are you personally supportive of that? >> i'm very skeptical about that because the vast majority of 18, 19, 20, 21-year-olds are law abiding citizens who aren't a threat to anyone. >> what about the ar-15 specifically? >> here's the problem, chuck. there's a lot of hunting rifles that are as powerful as an ar-15. the difference between the ar-15 and an awful lot of commonly sold rifles is just cosmetic. it's got a grip under the barrel and it's painted black. that doesn't change its lethality. >> republican senator pat toomey's answer showing how nuanced or confused the gun die
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bait has become. it was after all senator toomey to expand background checks following the sandy hook shooting. let's bring in another lawmaker from person pnnsylvania, ryan costello. thank you for coming in. >> nice to see you. >> you are in a suburban philadelphia district. do you think assault weapons should be banned? however should this go? >> it's a good question. if you saw congressman brian mast put out an op-ed this weekend which i think is on point -- >> you support an assault weapons -- >> what's the definition of it? we have to have a working definition we can all agree to. i think the real problem now with this debate is you have people very passionate saying the same words, meaning different things. if we start -- the toomey-manchin bill should pass. there is a mix everyone can
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agree to and we move into the discussion and hopefully develop a vocabulary that everyone can wrap their arms around. >> yeah, let's kind of explore this a little bit more. you're essentially saying if it's crafted correctly you could support a certain type of assault weapons ban? >> yeah. i mean, if you look at what congressman laid out, you're looking at the type -- how quickly the bullets come out, what types of bullets are used. those are the sorts of things we need to lay all the facts on the table so we are all using the same definition, which i think was the point of his editorial. he also went and laid out four or five other things i think we need to get done. >> the leadership, the house republican leadership has essentially paired in this kicks it was the fix nix bill. much different from the assault weapons been. they paired that with conceal carry reciprocity. if you have a concealed carry -- if you have a concealed weapons in one state it has to be recognized by other states. >> right. >> do you think leadership -- do you think that is a right thing to do to force people to connect
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those things? >> i voted against the reciprocity bill because i don't think in one state -- in a state that has less of a background check system or permitting system in order to get a concealed carry, you shouldn't be able to go from west virginia into pennsylvania if you don't have to do in west virginia what you would have to do to get a carry in pennsylvania. i voted against it. having said that, i think the fix nix everyone can agree to. moving forward i hope leadership will take up what can pass. we get into a challenging space where toomey said it couldn't get past the senate. the frustration is there are throws th those that may be be engaged in the vocabulary debate. this bill would not have prevented the tragedy that happened, but this bill is common sense. so your inability to do even the common sense stuff really frustrates me and i'm asking myself, why don't you do the stuff that should get done
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regardless -- >> it should be easy. >> that's where i think most of the country is. 70, 80% of the country has a gun safety reform set of principles we could easily put into action and that's where i am on it. >> the polling certainly shows that. your district has been redistricted. it looks like they have put you into a new version of your district that if, in fact, those lines hold, would have gone for hillary clinton for -- by 9 points. are you going to run again for reelection? >> interestingly, in 2012, mitt romney ron the district by 1. in 2016 hillary clinton won it by one. now as it's proposed hillary would win it by 9. only now do some people deem it to be a fair district. the problem with this redistricting issue, aside the fact the judges did something they weren't allowed to do, there's no statutory or constitutional authority to do what they did. i think in federal court next
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week, it may very well get struck down. but as we talk about the gun debate, this is a very important point. jake sherman mentioned it earlier. this redistricting plan, which i think will get struck down as unconstitutional because the judges didn't have authority to do t makes conservative districts more conservative, democratic or liberal districts more democratic and liberal, and increases po increases polarization in the state. >> some say it represents the number of democrats who live in pennsylvania. >> actually 538.com says pennsylvania is the single most democratic clustered state in the country. that's because one-third of all democrats reside in either philadelphia or allegheny county. if we're talking about compactness, unless you want to spread out and not focus on compactness, which is what the court said they wanted to do, necessarily there's going to be some districts that are very, very democratic in the city. but be that as it may, i mean, here's what should happen. the legislature should pass
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redistricting reform package. that's how it should get done. >> so, if the court allows this to stand, will you run for reelection? do you have any hope of winning reelection if it stands? >> i imagine i would win if i run. the question -- this is what i think is going to happen. i think the federal district court is going to strike that down. the state supreme court had no authority to do what they did. in fact, they did two things that are totally outrageous. there are two districts protected under civil rights law under the voting rights act. a majority, minority district. there were two of them. the state supreme court just got rid of one of them. no expert testimony, no explanation as to why they would get rid of one of those districts -- >> the upshot is what you think is what they did is illegal? >> no question. >> congressman ryan costello, thank you very much. we'll be keeping an eye on all of that in the week to come. up next an nbc news exclusive with ivanka trump. peter alexander sits down with the first daughter at the winter olympics ahead of the closing ceremony in south korea.
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olympics in pyeongchang. her visit comes as a trump administration announced new sanctions against north korea. the, quote, largest ever against the regime. in an nbc news exclusive, peter alexander sat down with the first daughter ahead of the closing ceremonies. >> reporter: ivanka trump's visit here in south korea not exclusively ceremonial. delivering a message of unity to a crucial u.s. ally. >> we are 50 miles away from north korea, so affirming the u.s. position and our joint position of maximum pressure with our south korean partners is very important. >> reporter: after kim jong-un's sister attended the olympics opening ceremony, local media called her north korea's ivanka. is that a fair comparison? >> i don't think so. i'd far rather be compared to my sisters in south korea who are thriving -- >> reporter: she addressed the debate at home following the
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parkland massacre and her father's controversial message some teachers should carry guns. you're a mom of three young children. do you believe that arming teachers would make children safer? >> to be honest, i don't know. obviously there would have to be an incredibly high standard for who would be able to bear arms in our school. but i think that there is no one solution to creating safety. >> reporter: are you advising your dad on this, do you advise him on other topics? >> i think that having a teacher who are armed, who cares deeply about her students or his students and who is capable and qualified to bear arms is not a bad idea, but it is an idea that needs to be discussed. >> not a bad idea. joining me now, white house reporter for the washington post and msnbc political analyst, ashley parker. and my panel is back with me as well. quickly on this gun point, jonathan swan, is this another
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example of -- ivanka trump seems to be breaking with her father a little bit on this question of arming teachers. >> i think if you lined up ivanka trump's view of the world with donald j. trump's view of the world, you wouldn't find an enormous amount of policy overlap. i think it was pretty clear watching that clip she wasn't entirely on board with the idea of teachers walking around with guns. >> not entirely on board. ashley parker, let's switch gears. you took a trip with the president recently to asia. what were kind of your take aways from that trip as far as where we are with north korea? there are these new sanctions but there may be conversations opening up. >> sure. it was a fascinating trip in part because the vice-president went there. ostensibly he was going to be at the winter olympics ceremony. all throughout the aides were telling the case he was not there to watch the games and cut a ribbon. he was there as this one man superhero to try to combat north korea's olympic efforts. it's an open question how
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successful he was, but almost every stop, he announced these sanctions that were coming. he met with north korean defectors. he toured the ship, the south korean ship that was torpedoed by the north in 2010. and i reported when we got back that it turned out when he left washington, he had known he was prepared to take a secret meeting with the north koreans. again, this was not opening up negotiations. his plan at the time was basically that he was -- the president believes in talking. he believes in talking. he was basically going to reiterate to the north koreans face to face all that stuff that donald j. trump is saying, he actually means it. so, you should be aware of that. and at the last minute the north koreans, about two hours before the meeting, they pulled out because they weren't happy with his rhetoric. and that's basically how the trip went. >> katty kay, how close are we to the nuclear brink with north korea or has that over the course of the weeks at the olympics, have we come back from
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the brink or closer to it? >> most north korean analysts would suggest the detente between south korea and north korea was designed around the olympics. the south korean wanted to hold a successful olympics. the last thing they wanted was for the north koreans to test a ballistic missile while the games were happening. one watcher said to me it is a bit like the mafia. you pay your protection money and they got their olympic games without any intervention. the question is what happens now. the games are over. nobody thinks that actually the north koreans are for any long period of time going to stop playing good guys. they may want to look like they want good neighbors, but the program is going to accelerate. meanwhile, the pentagon plans are being drawn up for some kind of military strike, a bloody nose type. that's what they would hope, strike against north korea. most people think we are closer to that option than we are aware of.
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>> rosy assessment. jonathan schwan, the security clearance with ivanka trump's husband, jared kushner, the president said i defer to john kelly. he also seemed to suggest john kelly thinks he knows the right way to handle the situation. is jared kushner going to continue his job the way he has been? >> it's a huge tbd. with the security clearance something is holding it up. i don't know if john kelly knows what's holding it up. the senior level of white house, nobody knows exactly what it is. and i don't even know if jared knows exactly what it is. we don't know. we're in this period of limbo and i suspect he may get some grace period, but it could actually kind of backfire in a few months because if it still hasn't -- if kelly says, all right, in three months we'll revisit it, if it's still not done, that's going to be a problem. >> right. ashley, wasn't this supposed to be answered on friday, this question? >> it absolutely was.
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it is very much an open question the last i had heard. again, this was sort of theory. was that kushner may have been get what is described as a carve out. because he ended up -- >> special treatment? >> certain special treatment. the reason it was given because you may recall he had to update his forms a number of times because he hadn't disclosed everything. >> right. >> his final forms came in later, they could use that to justify kicking it down the road. >> if you're not cleared by june 1. >> exactly. >> just ahead, congressman john conyers resigned in disgrace denying accusations of sexual misconduct. we'll introduce you to rachid a talib and would be the first muslim woman in congress. we're back after this. you wouldn't accept an incomplete job
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[ audience reacts ] >> thank you very much. thank you. >> that was former democratic member of the michigan house of representatives, rashida tlaib being run out of a trump speech after protesting. now she is running for congress. tlaib is campaigning in michigan's 13th district to fill the seat left after congressman john conyers was forced to resign amid sexual harassment allegations. she joins me now live from detroit. thank you so much, rashida, for being with us. appreciate it. >> thank you, kasie, for having me. >> this is a seat that was held by john conyers, longest serving member of the house.
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family members are competing for this district. why do you think there is a reason why it might fall to you? what exactly is your rationale for running here, and do you think that you can beat these two congressmen? >> absolutely. you know, a lot of our families in the 13th congressional district. they're sick and tired. they want somebody that goes beyond just the voting, beyond just the same old rhetoric that you hear. they want somebody that will vote the right way, go out in the community, fight side by side with them, join the movements for all the kinds of issues around the economy, around education, around a number of issues. and a lot of folks that know me here in the 13th congressional district will tell you, you know, i will stand by them to stop water shut offs and protests as well as introduce bills and push it through committee. people want that. they want to raise the bar of what they expect in a member of congress. i think, kasie, so many of us have just been getting the same old style over and over again,
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and i think people want a mom that has a lens, a different lens that can really see things differently than what we have been able to get in congress now. and you know, i'm sick and tired of a lot of us are sick and tired. we're sick and tired here in michigan especially we've gotten thrown billions of dollars of tax breaks to millionaires where we're closing schools, education system falling apart. we have potholes, all these kinds of issues, infrastructure right here. people are sick and tired of it. and i don't think they want another typical member of congress. i think they want something different and i provide that. >> do you think electing another person with the last name conyers would represent simply more of the same in >> absolutely. just looking at, you know, the past things that have been brought up in regards to various issues, i know for instance for me what i can provide.
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and my character and a lot of folks will tell you this, is i help people through everyday kinds of issues. that is as critical to me as introducing legislation that helps change our lives for the better. and people want somebody that gets it and understands it, not somebody that will inherit yet another position based on name recognition. here, i think looking at the number of people i've spoken to, you know, over -- close to over 50% -- nearly 50% of the families in the 13th congressional district don't own their own home. and that alone is a cornerstone of the american dream. and we haven't been able to address those issues. and i know when i talk about it there's a lot of confidence and understanding that i take it very seriously and that i won't back down until it actually gets done, where people have easier access to owning their own home and being able to provide a stability for their families and their children. >> katty kay has a question for you. >> ms. tlaib, it's katty here.
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there is only one other muslim. it's not that easy for muslim americans to get elected in congress or perhaps they haven't run in numbers. i want to know how much of an issue it was for you campaigning in the 13th district. if it comes up, how do you respond to? >> first of all, there are two. congressman keith ellison, by the way, take full credit for the fact he is a detroiter himself. was born here and raised here. and there is also congressman andre carson who i dearly respect and love and adore the number of things he's been able to work on. look, i've run before three times very successfully for the state legislature. of course, it comes up, but people tend to put that aside and look at my record, look at the fact that i'm a hard worker, and the fact that i really do care about making their lives better. and people want to just have that direct human contact. and you know, right away, people like, oh, yeah, you're the one who helped get the petroleum coke removed from the river front.
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so, the issue they may not be able to pronounce my name, the fact i am arab american, proud arab american and of muslim faith kind of fades into the background and people just focus primarily on the fact i can get results done. they love the fire that i bring forward. they love the fact that you'll see me with my kids at various rallies. i try my best to come to the ground up versus what we have been able to see now in congress, which is sending out press releases, doing these kinds of statements is not what people want. they want something different. they want something that is a little bit more aggressive in getting things done. i am a person that leaves the campaigning at the steps of the capital and when i walk in, i want to get things done. >> rashida tlaib, very quickly before i let you go, yes or no, will you support nancy pelosi as leader of the democratic caucus in the house? >> i can't answer that right now. i can tell you -- >> no yes or no?
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yes or no. >> probably not. i'll tell you right now, probably not. >> probably not, okay. rashida tlaib, thank you very much for being on tonight. i appreciate it. >> thank you. >> next hour on "kasie d.c."? >> we don't want to fight to break the glass ceiling. we want to build a whole new house. >> she would have. a new co-working space coming to washington, d.c. for women. soon across cities. i'll talk exclusively to actress to political fact, to multi-million dollar company. that's still to come on "kasie d.c." t about drama. from scandalous romance, to ridiculous plot twists. (gasping) son? dad! we also know you can avoid drama by getting an annual check-up. so we're partnering with cigna to remind you to go see a real doctor. go, know, and take control of your health. it could save your life. doctor poses! dad!
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welcome back to "kasie dc." this is a little segment we like to call the swan dive. you have a couple swoops out tonight, jonathan. what new have you learned? >> number one, in singapore, they execute people who traffic in drugs. often drug dealers who are not necessarily in american terms regarded as kingpins. trump loves the idea -- >> of executing drug dealers? >> kellyanne conway said it's more nuanced.
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she said he's not wanting to execute low level drug dealers but people dealing in fentanyl. you know where they have a drug problem? china or the philippines, but he talks of these regimes where they're not soft on drug dealers. anyone holding out hope he would do drug sentencing reform, it would be not in the way they are thinking. the second one is trump has been pushing his personal pilots of trump force one to be the head of the federal aviation administration, which has a budget running in the billions. his name is john duncan. the president used to sit on the tarmac with john duncan.
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he would say, if you had a pilot running the faa, you would never have any of these problems. >> sitting on the tarmac when he was running for president? >> no, when he was a private citizen. and i compared it to cosmo cramer on "seinfeld" appointing his golf caddie as a consultant. they said he's more than a pilot, he has a lot of other experience in the aviation sector. so he's on a short list of this job with the acting administrator. >> is this somebody you were familiar with, is she somebody that was buddy buddy with the preside president? >> not particularly. but trump flew on trump force one and we flew on a different plane.
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trump is buddy buddy with the people who surround him. they are the ones that are able to put articles in front of him, plant ideas and he listens to them and often echoes their ideas even on policy. >> one thing that would help solve the nation's aviation woes is passing a long-term faa authorization bill. he's been unsuccessful in doing that, as the republican congress has been for many years. >> just so wonderfully trump. that you have your guy there. >> he's trump's pilot. >> jonathan is very fair to this show. thank you for your time tonight. much more when we continue, including congressman and former florida governor charlie crist. plus, why practically no one was watching when the most interesting thing at cpac happened. and a twist this week, our team of producers watches cpac so you
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cpac has always been about big ideas. tax cuts. obamacare. the individual mandate. by the way, what a nice picture that is. i would love to watch that guy speak. campaign promise. the fake news. the keystone pipeline. china. russia. mexico. north korea. india. and others. by the way, you don't mind if i
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go off script a little bit, because it's sort of boring. job killing regulations. if you only had a choice of one, what would you rather have, the second amendment or tax cuts? people run to stay in shape. nancy pelosi. i try like hell to hide that bald spot. nafta. second amendment. we want trump, we want trump. trump/pence! catch and release. the comforter of silk. what a mess. >> welcome to the second hour of "kasie dc." joining us on set, lee chen.
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cpac, part main stream, part fringe, often times people in colorful costumes. but not this year. this year, no costumes, no flags. and a much different tone with the president now the head of the republican party. but saturday, by saturday, most eyes turned away from cpac with no more speakers that president trump or dana loesche provided. >> i'm disappointed in people on our side for being hypocrites about sexual harassers and abusers of women who are in our party, who are sitting in the white house, who brag about their extramarital affairs, who brag about mistreating women, and because he happens to have an "r" after his name, we look the other way, we don't complain. this is a party that was ready
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to endorse the republican party party endorsed roy moore for the senate in the state of alabama, even though he was a credibly accused child molester. you could not claim that you stand for women -- >> not true! not true! >> some pretty tough language there from her. this cpac was not necessarily always a place where a conservative like donald trump would get a good reaction. you were quite familiar with this. he was on the edges of the gathering when you wanted to run for president in 2016, and quite frankly, the stage at this year's gathering was turned over to people who basically supported him. he was cheered when he gave the speech, but mona sort of standing up there with -- i don't know if it's never trump i guess, the one never trumper in
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all of cpac. >> she wasn't even a never trumper. she was making the point, and she had a great op-ed in "the new york times" that when this came up, she made this case against democrats, that democratic women who spoke out for women's rights looked the other way when it came to bill clinton. and now she was pointing out correctly that republicans are doing the same thing. it had nothing to do with donald trump other than the big caveat that he was accused by more than a dozen women of sexual improprieties. she was clearly talking about him and roy moore. but she wasn't taking down donald trump at all. that's why that reaction was so striking. >> she's a conservative, she has written eloquently and well on a variety of different issues. for her to get that response suggests this is no longer the same cpac maybe that we've been used to seeing in the past as the opening package suggested. the takeover of cpac, the
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takeover of the republican party by president donald trump is now complete. and cpac sort of was the greatest manifestation of all of that. you saw -- these people were more about trump than they were about conservatism. it's not cpac, it's tpac. the takeover is complete. >> meanwhile, cpac communications director ian walters is apologizing to michael steele after saying this about him on friday. >> and a little bit of cynicism, what did we do? this is a terrible thing, we elected mike steele because he was a black guy. that was the wrong thing to do. >> walter took to twitter where he said he had spoken to steele and apologized, insisting that the words he used "do not capture my heart." the next day, steele spoke with cpac chairman on steele's radio show. here is part of that exchange. >> those words that tumbled out
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of his mouth i believe were unfortunate words. >> it was stupid, it's not unfortunate. call it what it is. it's stupid to sit there and say we elected a black man chairman of the party and that was a mistake. do you know how that sounds to the black community and to americans? >> i do. >> do you know how they then equate that level of stupidity to conservatism? >> you know him. this is where you need to have some grace. >> what the hell do i need to have grace for? >> you've not been graceful to the conservatives and republicans in this room for a long time. >> i spent 41 years in this party. 41. all right? i have taken crap you have no idea about, and i carried this baggage. and for him to stand on that stage and denigrate my service to this party and for you, as a
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friend, to sit there and go, well, you've been critical of the party. there's only one word i can say and i can't say it on this air. >> wow! john swan? >> nothing i'm going to say that's more powerful than what michael steele just said, apart from just, wow, that somebody could get up on stain and said we tried the black guy thing and it didn't work out. it's just gobsmacking that someone would say that in a public space. i don't know what to say. >> michael steele is a friend of the show. he's been a guest and welcome to come back any time. what does that tell you about the state of -- i mean, that exchange, you felt michael steele, that frustration of feeling unwelcome in a place that he's given a lot to.
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>> look, it's hard, because on the one hand, i think there's always been this sense that in the republican party, we try not to play identity politics, whatever that means. but you cannot deny the fact that, for many of us who are of minority backgrounds, being part of the republican party -- >> this is the foundation of this presidency in some ways. >> what you saw about michael's reaction is how visceral this is. it feels like there's a visceral attack on those of us who are conservative and republican and who are trying to continue to articulate those values. because first of all, we're not sure what it means anymore in this environment to be a conservative. but second of all, because it feels a little bit like, you know, you're not really welcome, and if you can't be on board, we don't want you. >> so where do people like you go? >> look, i think this should not be read as, you know, nothing this president has done or
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things we agree with. a lot of conservatives would look at the president's accomplishments on his policies. we like the tax cuts, judges, regulatory reform, whatever. but the party is more than about the component leaders. it's about the message and vision. if that is not inclusive, that becomes very problematic for the future of the problem. maybe not now, they may still win elections in 2018 and 2020, but what about the long run spector for the party? that's something i wish more republicans would take to heart. >> they need to grapple with the fact that donald trump exposed the gap between republican lawmakers in washington and a lot of republican voters. we found out in that election that actually, republican voters aren't necessarily this kato institution fantasy we hear about in d.c., that maybe they're not hiing in bed at night hoping for welfare reform and entitlement reform, and some
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of them are socially conservative and really concerned about immigration. so trump tapped into something very, very real, and we ignored that at our peril. >> the best example of that was the autopsy report after mitt romney, i'm sure you remember, when it comes to immigration, mitt romney only won 37% or maybe 27% of hispanic votes, but it was a low number. and he would have won the election if we had done much better. as jonathan said, donald trump realized that within the country, especially in those states that lifted him to victory, that was not how the voters felt, they felt the immigrants were coming in, depressing their ages and taking th their jobs and that is something they're willing to vote on. >> i'm not saying, get on board, just that trump exposed
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something in this election which i still don't feel republican lawmakers are draple igrappling. >> what about the nationalist part of this? this nationalism and ethnonationalism that is felt in europe and other places across the globe. >> amy chua who wrote the book about tiger mothers has a new book that addresses this issue of tribalism, and how political tribalism is the theme of the moment. that if you think about all of these different conflicks we're having in the united states and around the world, it's not about party or class but affiliation and association. >> culture. >> it's a cultural battle. we're seeing that here in the united states, as well. >> very interesting confidence. jonathan, thank you very much for your time tonight. appreciate it. just ahead, we're going to talk to a student from stoneman
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douglas high school. he went back today for the first time. plus, florida congressman and former governor charlie crist joins me live. and then we go to tennessee for a race that is suddenly in play. >> at this point, i don't think have anything to say. at some point i may. >> to be or not to be a senator for six more years. that is the question for bob corker. "kasie dc" back after this. . rodney -- mastermind of discounts like safe driver, paperless. the list goes on. how about a discount for long lists? gold. mara, you save our customers hundreds for switching almost effortlessly. it's a gift. and jamie. -present. -together we are unstoppable. so, what are we gonna do? ♪ insurance. that's kind of what we do here.
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the wrong school, the wrong community. >> after this, i didn't feel safe being in my own school. so hopefully we'll start feeling safe again and everything will go back to normal. >> not in the morgning, not in the leave. >> students returned to campus for the first time since the mass shooting at their school for an orientation. it's just the beginning of what will no doubt be an emotional and difficult week. joining me now is a survivor of the shooting and went to the orientation today. thank you very much for your time today. >> thank you for having me.
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>> what was it like to go back and be with your friends, with your classmates today? >> it was amazing. i got to see some of my friends that i haven't seen in a long time. a lot of us have been politically active in this. so we haven't had the chance to breathe. they didn't want any media. so we got to show our true emotions. i saw a lot of my teachers. i unfortunately didn't see some of my friends because they are no longer with us. but it was a mix of emotions. i went in with my mom. she was crying. she was like, i don't know how i can let you come back here, but we're taking it step by step and doing the best that we can. >> what do you think needs to be done to fix this? and in your time and focus in the aftermath of this, have you seen anything that gives you hope that something could change? >> we want common sense gun laws.
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our three main points is, school safety, gun safety, mental illness. rick scott's proposal gave us hope, because we went up to tallahassee and gave him some of our ideas, especially raising the waiting period, going from the age of 18 to 21. so a lot of things are giving us hope, but there are roadblocks and we're not unaware of those. but we're here talking to make change happen. >> the local newspaper in your area has an editorial arguing that you and all of your friends have power right now because of what you have been doing, and that you could potentially circulate a petition to try and get an initiative on the ballot in florida to ban ar-15s. is that something you've talked about or think could be possible? >> umm, we've definitely talked about it. we're just waiting to see what happens. my middle school history teacher
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came up to me and said if you don't like you're seeing, write a bill. i think that's a potential in the future. >> what is your view of potentially arming teachers or hardening schools? what is security like or what was it before this happened at your school and would you feel safer if your teacher was car carrying a gun? >> i think teachers having guns is a really horrible idea. i said this time and time again, but i don't think trump has spoke on the a teacher about it, because all the teachers i've spoke to, all the teachers my friends have reached out to, our teachers don't want guns. there's just so many things that can go wrong. the guns in the classroom, when a s.w.a.t. comes in, they're looking for someone with a gun. so what is going to happen with the teacher with the gun? a lot of teachers don't feel safe having a gun. even the teachers that own guns at home, i would not feel safe
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in the classroom knowing there's a gun there. >> have you talked to your parents there? is this something they want to take action on? >> my mom is a teacher, and she feels the exact same way that i do. no teacher should have guns. we want less guns, not more guns. and i think that's where a lot of people aren't understanding, is that we don't want more guns in our classroom or more guns on school campus, we want less guns. that's the whole argument. we feel that there's more guns, there's a higher possibility that something like this could happen again. >> thank you very much for your time tonight and our thoughts are with you and all of your classmates as you head back to school this week. thank you. >> thank you for having me. >> and joining me now, democratic congressman from florida and the former governor charlie crist. thank you for being here. >> thank you, kasie. >> congressman, you in your career have switched parties.
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you've also changed your position on the best way to deal with guns. gun control. where do you stand today should the ar-15 be banned and why did you support that in the past? >> i think it should have been past and had i been asked in the past, i would have came to the same conclusion. my family has guns, but i believe in common sense solutions. what has changed, and i think brought a lot of evolution on this issue to a lot of people, including those still republicans that we heard from one earlier tonight on your show, and one of my florida colleagues last friday, is the fact that these incidents continue to happen. and when you deal with facts and you understand what the facts are telling you, the kinds of weapons that are causing these mass killings to take place are those kinds of weapons like an
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ar-15 that can dispense massive amounts of bullets in a short period of time. so it's obvious that needs to be banned. that is the point in this entire discussion in my view. i agree with tenzil, he did a great job. these young people are making the difference this time on this discussion in america as it relates to guns, with their tenacity, not just their passion or strength, but how tenacious they are, calling for the march on washington march 24th. that is important. but having back ground checks to really check the back grounds, having waiting periods that make more sense, raising the age of those who can purchase any kind of firearm, banning ar-15s and ak-47s as assault weapons is critical. as i said, that's the point of the sphere. that's the problem. that's the gun we have to get rid of first and foremost. all these other actions are
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important, as well. but i think it all starts there. and i'm glad to see some of my republican colleagues warming up to that position already. it's encouraging. >> congressman, you left the governor's office with an "a" rating from the national rifle association when you left congress. do you think that the nra is a negative force in america? clearly at one point, you were somebody who supported their agenda. >> well, their agenda has evolved, kasie. and they have started advocating things over the last five years or so that get more dramatic all the time. and i think that's even made republicans start to break with that kind of support. the events of the past couple of weeks have been incredible in a political sense. and i think that the nra's silence every time one of these things happens, until their leader comes out and speaks at
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cpac as he did recently, it's a repeated pattern. the actions of congress, the leadership in congress, the republicans typically has been when one of these things happen, whether it was las vegas or parkland, it's to stand down, be quiet, shut up, and hope people forget about it. but these kids are not going to let them forget about it. and it's going to continue. and i think we are at a tipping point, and i think that's great for america. i think it's great for our children. i think it's great for the safety of our citizens across our country that we have reached a tipping point where enough truly is enough. it's not -- we're not going to take it anymore, and action has to be taken. and i believe it will. either sooner or later. it will happen before the election or after what i believe will be a blue wave in november. i certainly hope so. >> congressman charlie crist, thank you very much for your time tonight. appreciate it. >> thank you, kasie. just ahead, a trip to tennessee where republicans are trying to tamp down democrat's
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democrats noted -- >> and just as that memo was being released, the republican chairman of the house intel committee devin nunes, wassefing the defender of freedom award at cpac. here's how nunes reacted to the democrat's memo. >> we think it is clear evidence that the democrats are not only trying to cover this up, but they're also colluding with parts of the government to help cover this up. and i think as you read it, you will see personal attacks on myself and chairman gowdy with a lot of -- a lot of really interesting things that sound really bad, like a lot that has been happening with this russia investigation over the course of the last year. but what you're not going to see
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is anything that actually rejects what was in our memo. >> the white house responded in a statement of its own, saying in part that the document is politically driven and fails to answer serious concerns raised by the majority's memo. and is loaded with uncorroborated allegations. can we talk about devin nunes for a second? he said that democrats on the intelligence committee are colluding with parts of the government. this was another theme at cpac, this idea that the government is coming to you. the head of the fbinra attackede fbi. cpac last always been about small government, but that's much different than saying your government is out to get you. >> this is that narrative supercharged on steroids. this is the same idea that a lot of people who self-identify as conservatives would be inclined
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to believe, that there are elements of the government engaged in activities against the conservative agenda. that goes pretty deeply into the psyche of people at cpac. the only reason it went there is the sense that it was effect iv. the i think it is effective for that particular audience. >> it struck me that there was almost no discussion of russia, despite the fact that it's a frequent topic of conversation for all of us. the only other time that i heard russia referenced was in praise of devin nunes. >> that's because russia is a hoax. as he said, this was sort of trump pac in a way. the one topic this president cannot stand to discuss is russia. he believes if he admits that russia interfered in the presidential elections, it invalidates his presidency and victory. so it's not something that he's
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going to talk about and not something his acolytes are eager to talk about. >> in some ways it feels like this was a lot of excitement much ado about nothing. >> each side is able to say this is the posture and narrative we want to take. do they have any bearing with respect to the investigation that bob mueller is conducting? probably not. did they raise some issues regarding the fisa process through which surveillance of american citizens can be authorized. i think there are some interesting questions that have to be addressed. but fundamentally, does it implicate the actual investigation? there's nothing there that directly points towards collusion and trump. and i think that enables him to continue to push that narrative forward. both the republican and democratic memos don't address that issue directly. >> if anything, it casts doubt
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i know that whoever wins the presidency has a disadvantage for whatever reason in the midterms. you know what happens? i'm trying to figure it out. >> popular elections, midterm elections, democrats sometimes -- y'all getting a little sleepy. >> we fight so hard to win the presidency. you fight, fight, fight. >> everybody gets all excited. and then when it's an off-year election. >> then you're sitting back, watching television. maybe i don't have to vote today. we just won the presidency. then we get clobbered. >> how come we can't get things through congress and the statehouse? because you slept through the election.
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>> the senate race in tennessee is in a sudden state of flux. top republicans have thrown their support behind representative marsha blackburn, who is running for bob corker's seat. but there's a new twist. corker is reportedly rethinking his retirement. and with a serious democratic contender in the race, there is some concern that the seat could slip from republican hands. here's tonight's state of play. >> the last time a democrat won a u.s. senate seat here in season, al gore. but as voters have shown from the midwest to alabama, tennesseens may be the latest to buck the trend. >> got to win tennessee. >> reporter: the president won here handily, by 25%. but this november, there's new concern tennessee voters could elect a democrat and help flip the u.s. senate. >> they think they can turn tennessee blue.
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but i'm going to tell you something, they're not even going to turn it purple. >> reporter: marsha blackburn is the republican front-runner, and eight-term congresswoman that some republicans could turn off more moderate voters. how would you describe marsha blackburn? >> that thenacious, fearless, f, determined, one of the hardest workers you will ever meet. >> reporter: she entered the race after senator bob corker announced plans to retire. but now there's concern that she could cost republicans their seat, amid reports corker could run today. >> at this point, i don't have anything to say. >> reporter: would you welcome bob cork tore the race? >> if he gets in the race, he gets in the race. >> congress has just lost its way. it's immoral the way they keep borrowing money. >> reporter: this is phil, mayor
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of nashville and governor who has been out of the spotlight for eight years. >> typically vote republican, but he did a lot for tennessee. >> reporter: as a republican, do you want bob corker be in this race? >> i would prefer he not. >> i would still go with marsha blackburn. >> bob corker needs to step up. >> reporter: corker was once secretary of state. >> he loves you and he wants the best for you. the republican nominee for president, donald trump! >> reporter: but things have soured since trump took office. corker tweeting the white house had become an adult daycare center and suggested the president could set the nation on the path toward world war iii. >> it appears to me that it's almost deinvolving. >> reporter: if corker enters, it will be a test of how far a republican lawmaker can go criticizing donald trump and still be embraced by voters. if bob corker jumps in, you
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would have two republican candidates. what is the difference between you and bob corker? >> i am a solid conservative that will support our president. >> and bob corker hasn't done that? >> i am a solid, consist sent conservative who is going to support a conservative agenda and our president. thanks. >> and von hilliard joins me now onset. von, that was a great back and forth there with her. clearly didn't want to go where you wanted her to go. let's talk a little bit about -- i think there's a lot of people that don't understand why it is a democrat could conceivably win in tennessee. but there's a lot there. why is this a source of concern for republicans? >> when we look at the midterms, we have to look at in each of these states there's nuance. their relationships with these candidates. phil brettson, popular former
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mayor of nashville, he fought the state income tax. they were the houston oilers that are now the tennessee titans. this is a man who had a relationship with bob corker. 20 years ago, bob corker and bredesen worked together to bring that football team in there. people remember phil bredsen fondly. and would be willing to vote for him. >> tennessee has a history, there are people who are used to voting for democrats for statewide office in tennessee. >> marsha blackburn, let's talk about her for a second. she has become, you know, fromment in the conservative movement. is this a situation where if republicans nominate her, she could put the seat at risk?
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>> i don't think so. the corker dynamic makes it more complicated for her. i think she fits the profile and the dynamic of the state decently well and i think she'll be a good campaigner, too. >> what is the white house thinking on this? >> they have some concerns about senator corker getting back in the race. one is he creates a primary that is not dissimilar from alabama where tennessee may choose the wrong candidate. the second issue is you played those clips that he said, but president trump would start world war iii, that the white house is like an adult daycare center. those are attack ads waiting to be written. corker has been a pain in this white house's side right now. imagine if he wins the primary, wins the general, and then he has six years until he's up for re-election and no incentive to work with this white house on anything he doesn't want to. >> and this -- if it turned into a nasty primary could contribute
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to helping out the democrat. >> and it's like what we're seeing. it would be bob corker versus a marsha blackburn race. that seen hasn't seen a primary like that before. it's something in arizona, if chris mcdaniel gets in, in mississippi, how do these play out and will they have that impact on the general election? can conservatives still make that play like more moderate candidates? >> you're referring to senator roger wicker from arizona. we are expecting mcdaniel to make aannouncement about the senate race. my sense is that he was all in. i'm surprised he waited this long to potentially make an announcement. >> i think he was -- you were there on the ground in 2014. you talked to him a couple months ago there. i think the issue is thaad
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cochran is a different candidate. roger wicker said he'll be watching as well. can chris mcdaniel, because he's sort of that firebrand conservative, is that enough to take on some of these more establishment candidates? >> of course, mitch mcconnell has a majority of one, so every one of these races matters. vaughn hilliard, thank you very much. up next, it's part clubhouse and park working space and only women are allowed inside. i talk to the ceo of the wing to find out more about the concept and how it's being used to spread a message. "kasie dc" is back after this. l. suppositories for relief in minutes. and dulcoease for comfortable relief of hard stools. dulcolax. designed for dependable relief.
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plolitical moment. >> a lot of people walk in and say, am i dreaming? you know, the thing i want to tell them is they ear not and it's real and it's possible to create spaces like this that feel safe.safe. >> when audrey first dreamed up the club and co-working space the wing, it didn't necessarily feel revolutionary. what were you looking to create? >> a space to facilitate connections, friendships, professional alliances and relationships. >> the idea, to create a beautiful space where women could spend downtown between meetings. >> i really need more of this in my life. >> yeah. people just kind of go in there and take a minute, have a freakout. >> all without any men around. >> there's none of the being interrupted or talked over. >> the wing was an ambitious new challenge for gelman, a
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childhood friend of actress lena dunham. her wedding covered in vogue magazine. she spent her 20s rubbing elbows with manhattan's fashion set and sparring on twitter as a press aide in rough and tumble new york city politics. >> i was inspired by the history of these women's clubs and the role they played politically and the advancement of women in this country. ♪ >> the wing had opened three weeks before election night. >> we had about 300 women in our first space to watch the results. it was such an excitement in the air and women were hugging. >> but that party ended early. >> the night ended, you know, with women crying. a lot of women coming up to me and asking me, what do we do now? i was still in shock. >> the stakes, suddenly much higher. >> i think it was a very dark moment. to me, it became evidence of how quickly women can get stuff done
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and shift into action, buses to the women's march, you know, making sure that we were holding fund-raisers to benefit the aclu and planned parenthood. >> since the election more and more women are running for office. the me too movement has explode. even with a hefty $2700 a year price tag, thousands are now on the waiting list to join the wing. gelman raised $32 million. any difficulties as a woman entrepreneur that stood out to you as a hurdle that women face that maybe men don't? >> we had a lot of doors closed in our face. i would start to pitch and the male investor would say, this is how this works, i talk and you listen. i realized it was going to take me a lot longer to raise that capital but i was going to find the right people who really believed in the company, believed in me and who i
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asking questions about policy that go much deeper than we are able to go unfortunately on tv. we'll see. i want to ask you briefly about one person who may be heading for the scrums of capitol hill. >> yes. >> we'll see based on -- we covered governor mitt romney who's now running for senator in u utah. he's put up tweets of himself in vehicles. >> there are tractors, there are trucks. this is exactly the kind of campaign he needs to be running that win the senate seat in utah. i mean, this week alone visiting seven counties, 19 cities in utah. this is a utah focused campaign. >> do you bet those jeans are from brooks brothers? >> what was the dad jean brand he wore? but that truck to me is so
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emblem m emblematic of who mitt romney really is. he's driving himself. he's literally driving himself to events and campaigning. that's kind of how he seems to like it. >> a lot of people don't realize that about him, that he is remarkably frugal. he really has that ethos about him. >> the other thing i'm so struck by is i think it's a fair question to ask why would this guy, former governor of massachusetts, someone who ran for president twice and once was the republican party nominee, why would he want to be a senator? you have all these people dropping out of congress. >> i think paul ryan may be somebody that's asking that question. i would love to spend all kinds of time talking to you about this, but we have to go. i want to leave you with jilly and pancake the pugs, two
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