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look to flip a reliable red district. the stormy daniels saga intensifies. we'll tell you what the attorney is saying about the possibility of the adult film address finally speaking out. as robert mueller poised to make a deal with the president's legal team that could bring a swift end to the russia investigation. we'll difficult into newspaper report. and the historic meeting with kim jong un we'll have the latest on what the president and his staff are saying. we begin this-mile-an-hour in western if a where president trump is set to appear at that campaign rally in two hours. his appearance an effort to boost the candidacy of republican rick saccone ahead of the congressional election. the race is being seen as a referendum on president himself. the district is in the heart of trump country. and it's also steel country. this week's announcement on tariffs on steel and aluminum is being seen as an effort to appeal to blue collar voters. a recent surge in polling for democrat conor lamb has the race
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in a dead heat. the geeft for republicans could be evidence of a exactic wave in the midterm elections. nbc news white house correspondent jeff ben set in moon township, pennsylvania where the president will soon speak. the crowd seems to be growing behind you. looks like a fullhouse so far. >> almost, frances. i tell you i spoke to one of the supporter here for this event and i asked him outside what do you want to see? he said he wants to see a show. and judging from previous campaign style rallies from this president we can expect some of that. but the president has serious work to do. he has to rev up the republican base, more to the point the trump base to come out and vote for rick saccone, the republican running for the open congressional seat in pennsylvania's 18th district. in the last couple hours or so the president put on twitter a message that i think gives a pretty good preview of what we might hear. the president saying heading to moon township, pennsylvania, to be a good person, state representative rick saccone,
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running for congress. big and happy crowd why not up of the best economic numbers ever. rick will help a lot loves second amendment and veterans. of course the chal are to the president is that already a lot of people from the district who judging from the polls don't feel the same way about rick saccone. the former federal prosecutor, connor lamb is polling neck and neck with rick saccone in this district that was jerry mannedered the republicans to do well. the previous incan couple bent ran twice without an open. the lpt come trying to put saccone over the line, being and what this means for the president having put his name on the line to show a republican can do well in trump country. frances. >> people there, the supporters have a couple of hours to rev up before the president speaks. thank you. to bring in washington
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correspondent for "the new york times," charlie savage and also axios deputy news editor, alexi mccannen. charlie, i want to are the start with you. s the supporters wants to see a show. will we see a show and hear something of substance from the president. >> i'm sure the president is going to tout his new tariffs on steel. that's a message that will resonate in steel country in southwestern pennsylvania. it's certainly very interesting the republicans need to pour this many resources and a show of the president himself showing up in a district he won by 20 points in 2016. it's a sign of things to come that it's this tight, even if this race is narrowly won which the republican, to some extent democrats have already won to make it this close given how many other districts there are in 2018 that are much more favorable to them.
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>> alexi, we got to point out this is the first time he has some remarks when it comes to this decision on tariffs and steel and aluminum. is that going to be the deciding factor here when it comes to the voters on tuesday. >> i think they're certainly happy about the tariffs decision. but we know trump knows who to gin up a crowd like better than anyone else. when they are fighting against the democratic base that is hurting republican attention this could help. i heard from a republican yesterday that we are nervous about the race. but we are passenger banking on this trump speech. >> what do we expect from this president. >> i don't know if it's about his message on policy, maybe, injury it's more supporting rick sack ken because republicans consider him lackluster, especially compared to conor lamb who they said is a good candidate. they want to get people in pennsylvania just excited about
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in so-called lackluster candidate, less so about policy. >> well, bob, we know the strong likelihood this district won't exist when it comes time for the mid-terms in november. is the importance of this special election largely symbolic in sending that message out there, saying the president is revved up the crowd in a way we know that he loves and then here is the outcome from it? >> well, clearly the object here is for the president to try to whip up some enthusiasm. it's probably going to be the enthusiasm potion that will decide the outcome. but you have to remember that special elections are the special elections. it means the national parties and fund raising groups, the national organizations that reach out to grass roots voters all can concentrate on one district. and so a little bit of what you have seen here is everybody focusing on this race. it doesn't necessarily mean that you're able to do that in a
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general election where you have a multiplicity of seats you have to focus on. >> now you talk about the money that's been sunk into this, charlie, the money spent by the rnc, that's a good amount that they're sinking into this candidate that many say isn't as strong. some members of the gop already slamming him. what is the strategy when it comes to putting money behind. >> they are clearly sinking a huge amount of resources trying to push him over the finish line. we're not seeing that much money come from the national democratic controlled -- fund raised for by nancy pelosi who conor lamb distanced himself from. it's just i think clearly the republicans don't want the take away headline that in deep trump country a seat got flipped even if it won't have that much significance on the ground in congresss the next fau months. they want to suppress the mouning enthusiasm among the democratic base and whip up some degree of enthusiasm among republicaning heading into what
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is going to be a difficult midterm election. >> but bob when it comes to this particular election when you have a lead here that has been dwindled for him for saccone, what is it -- what is it there he is lacking when it comes to -- we were talking about with alexi here too? what is it he is lacking? >> well the initial fund raising wasn't very strong. that's the reason the national party found necessity to step in. but clearly donald trump still polls well in terms of people's support of him in that district. i saw a poll the other dayna showed trump still pretty strong in that district. so this will not be a render up on donald trump. it's going to be a render up on the two candidates that are running. and i think at the end of the day, the republicans because of the natural advantage in that district will probably pull it out. >> i want to bring in this factor, alexi when it comes to the nancy pelosi factor. we know that lamb distanced
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himself from her. and in showing when it comes to her support. when it comes to that, you know, saying that if -- if he were elected he wouldn't vote for her. >> right. >> as far as the democratic leadership here. does that spell trouble down the line, that if he wins you have this the candidate do and may embolden other democrats to do the same zpl that's one of the most fascinating aspects ever this entire race. because you quietly hear democrats talking about potentially having new leadership, right. and now we see this among folks who are democrats running as candidates who aren't in congress. i think we can certainly expect him to maintain that if he is elected. and also as you said perhaps embolden some folks talking about it privately but not yet coming public with it. >> some different aspects of if lamb wins what it tells us about the democratic leadership, if he can win with that distance from pelosi. so charlie, what is the outcome of this election going to tell us? >> well, i -- i think it really is a matter of substance, it
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doesn't matter that much whether rick saccone narrowly wins or conor lamb narrow wins, the fact that democrats make this close regardless of what happens in the end of the day is already a strong sign of where sentiments are in this country in a district that's so heavily tilted toward trump just a year and a half ago an astounding. >> and if saccone loss, see the finger pointing there when it comes to other members of the gop and the president himself. seeing with are that goes. to all of you, thank you. >> thank you. still to come the latest developments in the stormy daniels saga. she may be ready to speak out. and a number of people are willing to protect her if she does. we will tell you what her attorney is saying next. ♪ ♪
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now to the latest twist in the stormy daniels scandal. experts say trump's attorney michael cohen $130,000 payout to silence the film star may have violated election law. yesterday cohen revealed the source of the payout saying the funds were taken from his home equity line. that statement came after nbc news reported cohen used a trump organization email address to facilitate the payment to daniels. as all of this unfolds daniels says she is ready to talk. this morning her attorney detailed how eager people are for her story. >> has anyone offered to pony up
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the million dollars to protect her and say, here i'm good for it, go tell your story? >> at least ten individuals in the last three days alone. >> are any of them larry flint. >> not that i know of. >> is sme contemplating taking any of thes offers? >> no. >> joining me now is a senior fellow at the ethics and public policy center and eugene scott political reporter for the "washington post". thanks to both of you for being with me. we'll start with you eugene. this week we saw the back and forth between cohen and daniels. where does the president fit in here as far as what impact does this have on him? >> well, it's certainly affecting the perception that the president did not do something that was within the bounds of what was legal. there are real concerns that this issue has gone from something personal in terms of what goes between the president and his wife to the possibility that campaign finance laws were violated and their real ramifications for that in terms
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of what happens when one breaks the law in an election. >> so does it point to the email here, moneya, people say the use of the trump email organization email is evidence that the cohen services are in part being paid for by the trump administration. is that enough to determine a election violation? what more do they need? what more do they need to look out for for that. >> well, i mean, the question would be was this an in-kind contribution to the trump campaign? and one of the problems with in crew is that they always say things that insult your intelligence. so their story is that the lawyer just on his own decided to make a huge payment to this woman who the president claims he didn't have an affair with on his own account and getting no reimbursement from the trump organization or the trump campaign, i mean it really strains credulity to imagine that would be the case. >> when it comes to the president and what he knew about
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this payment, daniels attorney contends he knew about it. here is what he had to say about that. >> michael cohen is a licensed attorney under the new york state bar rules. and attorneys in every state have very specific rules that they have to live by. there is a requirement, meaning it's not optional, that an attorney inform his or her client at all times of all material facts relating to a negotiation, a case, et cetera. so in this instance, if in fact mr. trump was mr. cohen's client then there is no question that mr. trump knew about this >> if that's the case and election law is violated here, eugene, how much trouble could the president be in. >> well, significant trouble. now in terms of trouble with his base and popularity, not likely. people have already made up in their minds if they're on the trump train that this is not something that will bother them much. but the reality is the majority
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of voters are not on the trump train. and this could significantly impact the president's approval ratings which in turn could impact the midterm elections and people in his party, their ability to win congress and win senate seats that help carry out president's agenda moving forward. >> well, i want to ask you, mona, about the washington op-ed, the interesting perspective in the way they put it tp read that quote to you. it says the president who boasted of treating women by sex objects is being outplayed at his tabloid warfare game by a porn star. when you look at that -- it it's going to be a game, a high-stakes game between the president and daniels who comes out on top? who would win. >> he invited this by the original behavior, right. and we don't know how many others of the women that he has had such relationship was or has sexually harassed or whatever are out there waiting to tell stories as well.
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so that's another aspect of the story that's a potential danger for the president. i mean, i agree with eugene that for the hard core trump voter this will not matter. it's been providesed in. but don't forget voters had the same view about bill clinton within. we knew he was kind of a rake but still tripped up by the lie he told the perjury he committed because of the paul la jones story. just because the voters know that somebody is a male factor doesn't mean they can skate free when they find themselves in the legal net. >> when it comes to the tangle this web could it trickle back to the mueller investigation, eugene. >> i think the mueller investigation just now is just wide sweeping in what it's trying to figure out. there is a possibility. but we don't know there is nothing so far that suggests there is a direct connection between this incident and the
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campaign's illicit involvement with russia allegedly. i but it's possible. with he can trust that mueller is looking into that. >> yeah, ebrahim -- >> there is one other angle that could possibly relate to that mueller investigation. >> what's that? >> this shows that the president does think of himself as being vulnerable to blackmail. if he felt the need to silence her, then there is the possibility that he feels vulnerable on some grounds. >> well i want to ask you about that, especially with "the new york times" reporting just an houring a here that we got the information that the trump white house is lawyering up with bill clinton's lawyer as far as this. . can you read in anything of that when it comes to this, eugene? >> well, i think it just suggests the seriousness of this. you know, repeatedly the white house press secretary has said that this is a non-issue, doesn't matter to the american people, that would not be true if we see people getting lawyers to protect themselves, especially lawyers at this level
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of expertise. this just shows how much of an issue this can be. and to mon's point, we saw later in this week porn star jessica drake came out also saying she perhaps was involved in a situation. so there could be more. we're only like what, 14, 15 months into the administration. to think this could be the end of the story just won be wise at this point. >> i hadn't heard of her when it comes to that even before this. before gou i have to ask you about this. c-pac. when you -- you received that strong reaction from the crowd when you said this. >> i'm disappointed in people on our side. >> okay. >> for being hypocrites about sexual harassers and abusers of women who are in our party who are sitting in the white house, who brag about their extra marital affairs, brag about mistreating women, and because he happens to have an r after
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his name we look the other way, we don't complaint. this is a party that was ready to endorse the republican endorsed roy moore for the senate in the state of alabama, even though he was a credibly accused child molester. you cannot claim that you stand for women. >> not true. not true. >> and put up with that. >> not true. >> all right process now that we have some time mo in ta you are watching yourself would you say that again especially given the feedback? i'm curious what that has been since then. >> absolutely. i mean, i haven't changed. . some aspects of the republican party and the conservative movement change. i maintain the same principles i've always had. finance it takes reminding them of their hypocrisy sometimes which i've been doing for years regarding the lester i will do that. not happily but i'll do it. >> if your twitter blows up after saying that at least you
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know how the rest of the afternoon is going to be spent. mona, eugene, thank you. >> thank you. >> a programming note i want to bring to you now, tomorrow this happened. sex, lies and the candidate, explores how gary hart, that scandal changed the unwritten rules of reporting and made the private lives of public figures fair game for the press. you can watch tomorrow 9:00 p.m. eastern on msnbc. still to km a secret letter from vladimir putin to donald trump is being brought to light. could a deal between robert mueller and the president's legal team bring an end to the russia investigation? you wouldn't accept an incomplete job
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new reporting today in the special counsel investigation in russian election interference. a new book russian roulette from michaelis a could have and david korn tells a story of a mysterious letter written from putin to trump, hand delivered from russia to new york. but in an exclusive interview with megyn kelly putin said he wasn't aware of trump's many trips to russia in the years before being elected to president. >> now donald came over here to russia before he was a candidate. i didn't even know that he had
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been here. in other words, i found out after the fact. i was told he in fact had been in russia. i have no clue that he was in russia. >> also this week "the new york times" reporting that president trump asked witnesses for details of the interviews with mueller. and the president's lawyers are trying to trade an interview with trump for mueller's pledge to end the investigation according to the "wall street journal." joining me now are ned price, msnbc national security analyst and former spokesman for the national security councils under president obama. >> and our senior fellow of the studies at brookings institute pap editor in chief of law fair. let's get startwood ben. "the new york times" just published a new story that now says that president trump is seeking help from a lawyer who represented bill clinton during his impeachment proceedings. so would you go as far as to say the president is at risk the
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impeachment. >> it's premature to say that. but i do think if i were the president i would be trying to bulk up on legal talent willing to represent me both on the outside and inside the white house. and certainly having somebody with some expertise in the department of impeachment would be well advised on the part of the president. >> benjamin, anything to be read we it comes to that, when it comes to him saying i want somebody else on my team, and this is the fwguy i choose? >> look, he hasn't been surrounded by terrific legal representation in the context of this investigation. that may be the understatement of the last several months. his lawyers have made some pretty shocking errors of judgment. and bringing on serious people with relevant experience is a very good idea. the fact that this individual
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has particular experience in the department of impeachment, i don't know if i would read a lot into that. but i would say that if you are thinking about what the skill set that president trump is going to need over the next months and years, that is certainly one of the things that he maybe should be thinking about. >> ned i want to get back to this letter, the russian roulette book, says putin had the messenger deliver a -- hand deliver a letter to trump in 2013, saying it was a black lackered box, indian was a sealed letter from the russian auto krat. what it said has never been revealed. is that something the russian president does? >> well, frances i'm not sure we can generalize. clearly he took an interest in mr. trump's presence in moscow here, just as we know according to mr. trump's own letter, that he too was coveting a
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relationship or at the very least the presence of the russian leader at the miss universe pageant in 2013. i think it's unlikely that all guests to moscow, even billionaires or near billionaire guests would receive that kind of treatment. but president putin is especially secretive on some of these matters. i'm not sure we can come to broad conclusion there. >> when it comes to this, vladimir putin saying, hey, i didn't know that he was here in my country with a high-profile trips here with miss universe. what would the likelihood of that being the case, ned. >> that's very unlikely. obviously the russian security offices are sophisticated process you but you don't need that to know the miss universe pageant is taking place in karri country. especially when you have a showman like donald trump. someone who doesn't shy from publicity. even according to this account
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reached out to mr. putin. but i think we see something very similar won't the two individuals here. vladimir putin's account of this seems to differ with the facts here. if he did indeed send this personalized response to now president trump. but we have also seen president trump's own account of his relationship or lack there of, contending on the day, with president putin evolve during the course of the campaign. he repeatedly said i don't know mr. putin. but there is footage of him, even tweets from now president trump saying that he hoped putin would be his new best friend and that he was a relief i man whom he had met at least one occasion. >> coming out in 2013. ben, i want to ask you about "the new york times" reporting that the president is asking witnesses when it comes to the mueller investigation about what they talked about in those special counsel interviews. what are the legal issues when it comes to that? >> the major one is that it is -- so the facts that the "new
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york times" recounts would not in and of themselves make hout a case of obstruction or witness tampering. but they are really interestingly probative of an individual's state of mind when you're -- when you have witnesses coming out of interviews and you're sort of peppering them with questions about their interactions with the prosecutors. and when you're under investigation for obstruction, as the president is, that's an exceedingly ill advised practice, because it's a -- because those interactions can be, you know, mined for what they say about your state of mind when you had those interactions. and they can be placed in the context of prior interactions or other interactions. and a story can be made out of them about, you know, sort of what you were trying to do. >> yeah. >> and so most defense lawyers would really urge a client, you know, not to have such
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conversations. and i'm sure it's a matter of some consternation to the president's lawyers that they can't regulate his behavior in that regard. >> while they're having to deal with that and who he is trying to probe and get info from, lawyers are also trying to make this deal as far as when it comes to the president saying, okay, i'll give you my testimony, but i want a deadline here. let's shorten this thing. of course you have trump's personal attorney saying that's false. but if it were true can robert mueller agree to that, ben. >> it's simply not the way the system works. mueller can agree to anything he wants. but a prosecutor generally will not put an artificial deadline on an investigation for the convenience of a witness. >> all right. ned price, benjamin, thank you to both ever. >> you thank you. >> thank you. >> still to come president trump continues to work and tweet about that planned meeting with north korea's kim jong un. what the president is now saying
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>> why now for north korea, sir. >> i think north korea is going to go very well. we'll have tremendous success. something very special. we have a lot of support. so i think north korea is going very well. they told us they wouldn't be shooting off missiles in the
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mean. and looking to denuke. >> do you trust them, sir. >> all right the audio wasn't that great but he was responding. the president momentsing a to a question from kelly o'donnell about fark. to paraphrase he said it was going well and he is getting support. but there is still details to be determined as he pushes ahead on the planned meeting with north korean leader kim jong un. trump tweeting that he and chinese president xi jinping spoke and sounded optimistic about diplomacy. devoting a short timing a this, north korea has not conducted a missile test since november and has promised not to do sue to through the meeting. i believe they will honor the commitment. >> rex tillerson is expected to get with his counterpart from south korea next week for discussions. president trump's announcement that he would meet with the dictator sent global shock waves process. until this week they traded
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insults and threatened mutual annihilation. >> i i want to bring the ambassador to the international atomic agency. and the secretary of state for foreign air force. beth of you i want to ask you you married from the president, he uses the words in the tweet and just in his words to kelly o'donnell that they promised they wouldn't be shooting off missiles and looking to denuke. why should the president believe north korea, laura. >> well he shouldn't believe him. that's why verification is so important. and why the meeting needs to be prepared. we have to have a clear sense of what specific things we want to see in the near term and how to verify those, because trust is not a basis for this kind of conversation. >> and michael, speaking to that, when it comes to you know preparation, what laura just said, what needs to happen before this meeting, before trump and between them and before that can take place? >> well, look, the very idea of
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donald trump and kim jong un getting in a room together and meeting face-to-face to talk about issues of war, peace and nuclear weapons is frankly terrifying. that being said, it's a far better place to be than where we were a few weeksing a, talking about the potential for military conflict. and so this is a good step forward. but i think really now we'll see where the real challenges are going to come from. and one of those is what you pointed out, which is preparation. usually it takes months and sometimes even years to prepare for a summit of this magnitude, to take on these kinds of issues. and right now the trump administration is way behind the ball in preparing for anything like this. >> let me constitute o ask you about that. you said this is a step in the right direction but terrifying in what way is it terrifying. >> look, donald trump is completely unpredictable. he treats just about everything, including this potential summit like it's reality tv. but when you are in the room negotiating, again, issues like nuclear weapons, ballistic
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missiles, and frankly something that could lead to a catastrophic war, you need to be as serious, consistent and pragmatic as possible. you need good highly expert officials around you preparing for a conversation like this. that frank will is the opposite of donald trump. >> you have, a senior fellow at frags ever american psychiatristing quoted in the article saying. the administration has not equipped itself for success, have not laid the ground work for credibility in talks and lack experience in international negotiation. in accepting the invitation trump has lost leverage other the terms and agenda of the talks. do you agree the president has kbifen away too much already. >> well the talks are a good thing. diplomacy is what the world has been looking for. and so i agree with michael that this is better than we were a
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month ago. the problem is that kim's goals are really easy and largely symbolic and largely been accomplished by the -- in terms of search legislate myselfation. the u.s. goals are hard and complicated. how do you unspin a nuclear weapons program that has been operating for a couple of decades? it has 60 war heads, has a missile -- a sophisticated missile practice. and let's not forget about the chemical and biological weapons that also are on the peninsula and pose grave risks to allies in south korea and japan, as well as the u.s. troops based there. >> if you look at the history here, north korea carried out six nuclear weapons tests in last year. that one set off a 6.7 magnitude earthquake here. and violated agreements in the past history. you talk about in and what
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they're willing to give up, what theired side on how they're willing to give, but there is also here the possibility that they may be just kim jong un buying some time, a rouse, a stall tactic here. >> look, i think that's absolutely right. as laura pointed out before, i think any time you negotiate with the north koreans you need to be highly skeptical going into it, which is why giving away up front a summit meeting, one the of the greatest symbolic acts, concessions you can make in diplomacy right up front is a big, big mistake. you are giving away a lot of leverage there. the the best thing the president and his team can do now is push it out a little bit. set in place the process, the diplomacy, the high-level dialogue to actually see where we can get with the north koreans and hold that summit meeting out a little while to see if you can make a meeting like that really worthwhile. >> and when you think of the stakes, who has more to gain,
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who has more to lose, i want to play here what sarah sanders said friday about this meeting. >> this didn't happen overnight. this maximum pressure campaign and this process has been ongoing since the president first took office. for the first time in a long time, the united states is actually having conversations from a position of strength, not a position of weakness like the one that north korea finds itself in due to the maximum pressure campaign. >> laura, do you see that as well that north korea is northbounding from a position of weakness when you have the military experts saying they are months away from developing a nuclear weapon that can potentially strike the u.s. mainland. >> the -- the pressure campaign that has been ongoing actually began you know almost a decade ago. and under the obama administration there were seven different u.n. security council resolution atlas created the sanction campaign. this is -- this is absolutely the case that this pressure
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campaign has contributed to it. but this is something that building up over time. the -- the strength issue is, you know, really -- it's hard to see how kim doesn't have most of the cards here. and that's -- that's really why, you know as michael said we need to maximize what we can extract from this very significant to kim offer of a meeting at the summit level. we need to g get the most we can for that outcome. >> how does the administration do that with the vacancies we're seeing with the ambassadorship of south korea, also the state department vacancies? who is advising the president in this. >> well that's the big question, isn't it. even if they were to get people in place right now they're still going to be coming up to speed, if we're talking about meetings, even preparatory meetings over the next couple of months. so there is some supertalented people in the national security
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councils staff. but that's -- that's a thin bench when you look at the complexity that has to be gone through here. >> especially when you consider how this came about with the okay, okay, okay meeting with the south korean delegation and taking his administration off guard. ambassador laura who will gate and michael, thank you for your perspective. >> thank you. >> still to come the nra responds in a bigway to the florida gun control law.
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the nra is filing a lawsuit against the state of florida. the lawsuit comes after rick scott signed a compromise bill on gun control. the nra said the provision raising the minimum age to buy a rifle to 21 is unconstitutional. new law also requires a three-day waiting period for gun sales. and also bans the sale of bump stocks and it also funds school police officers and mental health and today the department of justice took the first stop to ban bump stocks and with me lori berman. i appreciate your time on a saturday afternoon.
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want to talk about your vote here, for the bill. but i like to share sound from a student at stoneman douglas high school and then ask your question. >> i don't think teacher should be armed because i don't feel safe in school with police officers armed even though i know their trained and even if i trust a teacher there is so many ways a student could get the gun. >> so what the is likelihood that the florida legislation will revisit the law and make changes. is that a possibility? >> there is always a possibility that we're going to make changes but i want to talk about the provisions of the law, the way the arming of teachers was done. while i want to be perfectly clear, i absolutely oppose arming of teachers also. the way the law is written is it is a voluntary program and the school boards have to agree that they want to be part of it and the sheriffs office in each county has to agree. so i'm very hopeful that our school boards and our sheriffs in the counties that are near to where i live and in other
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counties throughout the state won't implement the policy. >> and i want to ask you about the lawsuit from the nra raising the age limit and it is a violation of the second amendment. does the argument have any merit. >> i'm not a constitutional lawyer but i've taken a quick look at it and i don't think it has any merit. right now you can't buy a handgun in the united states if you are under 21. i don't think that is the -- the way -- it is interesting because we came together, democrats and republicans, and we passed what i believe is a reasonable law with reasonable restrictions. and i think that the nra feels very backed into a corner and that they're seeing that they can't control tallahassee any more and this lawsuit is a result that they recognize that we're not going to listen to their demands in the future. >> and when it comes to this block of the age restriction, there is a client that argued it is offensive to women under the
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age of 21 saying the group is much less likely to engage in violent crime -- does that argument have any legs to stand on? >> i think it is grasping at straws. there is no constitution argument for instance that because we're women we have less right to freedom of religion or because we're men we have more right to free speech. i find it to be a very strange argument. >> very quickly. the doj today when it comes to the bump stock and moving to ban those, the florida -- the florida law already does. did the doj -- we know the nra supported more regulations but stopped short of endorsing the president's ban and how does that weaken the argument that the nra has? is. >> i think that the nra is backed up against the wall on all -- on all areas with regard to this. i think the bump stock ban is also going to be found to be
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constitutional in florida and now you cannot own or purchase or possess a bump stock in the state of florida and it is really important -- an important move and a step forward that florida is done by banning bump stock. >> we heard from the student at stone man douglas high school. after your vote, what have you been hearing from your constituents and the kids -- students that are still now trying to get back to some normalcy as they are in school. >> absolutely. so what i've mostly been hearing from everyone is fairly positive responses that we did pass this piece of legislation, that it is the first time in 20 years that the state of florida has actually done anything to address the issue of access to guns. but i'm also hearing very much this is just a first step. we need to do a lot more. we -- the students came to us and they talked about a ban of assault rifles. they talked about universal background checks. neither of those issues have been addressed in the bill that
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we passed. so we've got to keep moving forward. but this was -- what i'm hearing is this was a good first step and we're glad to see that florida is finally stepping up and taking the lead. and it is a good step for the rest of the nation to follow. to see that a state like florida, which has the moniker of the gun-shine state is starting to address the issue. >> and if that is the first step, what is tangible that you could say you are involved with for steps two, three and four. >> one thing is -- you didn't mention but in the bill there is also a risk protection order. which is something that law enforcement can use to take away a gun from someone who is a risk to themself or others and go to court and petition and have a due process proceeding. i advocated for that to include family members. to be able to go to court. so that will be something that i'm going to be working on on step two. certainly i would love to see a ban on assault rifles in the state. i would like to see universal background checks and like to see us right now -- the florida
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legislature preempted any cities or counties from having their own laws because each individual area has individual needs. so i would like to see us do away with the preemption on that -- that we have enacted in the state of florida. >> maybe we'll see what those changes are and come to fruition. lori berman, thank you. >> thank you so much. >> and we'll be right back. you wouldn't accept an incomplete job from any one else. why accept it from your allergy pills? flonase relieves your worst symptoms including nasal congestion, which most pills don't. flonase helps block 6 key inflammatory substances.
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president trump is on his
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way here to pennsylvania where he will speak at a campaign style rally at a hotly contested congressional race happening within in the hour. we'll bring when it happens live. i'm frances rivera. and "all in" with chris haze is next. have a good one. tonight on "all in." >> are you going to talk to mueller? >> i'm looking forward to it actually. >> reporter: new reporting the president wants a deal in return for talking to the mueller probe. then five days after defying the special counsel. >> they're trying to set up a perjury case against roger stone and i'm not going to have it. >> look who just showed up to his grand jury interview. plus, the white house blows off a republican investigation. reaction to the president's decision to meet with kim john-un and today's huge and historic loss for the nra as a gun control bill becomes law in florida. >> let's get the rest of the country to follow our lead and make school safe.

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