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steps and actions. >> they are not sending missiles up, i believe that i do. >> will he get a deal to reduce nuclear thing or will kim jong-un get the elevated status he praised? plus tariffs on steel and alluminum. >> you don't have steel, you don't have a country. >> many are not on board. >> this plan will kill steel jobs in america. >> while democrats are all in. >> i agree with the president. >> my guest this morning treasury signature steve mnuchin and republican senator jeff flake. also a stormy week. the white house denies an affair between white house president and stormy daniels, then why did the president get a restraining order to keep her quiet. she is running, but elizabeth war enren is looking e and more like a candidate. joining me for insight and

analysis, eugene robinson, andrea mitchell, national political columnist for yahoo news and peg my noonan, columnist for the "wall street journal." well koto sunday, it's "meet the press." >> from nbc news in walk the long st running show in television history, this is "meet the press" with chuck todd. >> good sunday morning, to be frank, we are running out of ways to say we never seen one like this sam nunberg appears on cable tv, all over cable tv. and insists he will not comply with a subpoena to appear before robert mueller's grand jury, by friday he was appearing before robert mueller's grand jury. tuesday, the president slapping steel tav tariffs, gary cohn steps down.

then we learn his attorney slapped a restraining order from talking about the affair with the president and robert mueller before the president took the of the was designed to create a back channel to the russians him thursday, president trump signed proclamation on steel and alluminum tariffs. as american allies promise to retaliate. we are talking about the i alone can fix it, the president announced a meeting with north korea kim jong-un, last night in pennsylvania, the president bashing opponents and pushing for rick saccone and screaming headlines and seat of the pants decisions is indeed the presidency donald trump promised and the president he seems most comfortable w.. >> you know, i used to say how easy it will be to be presidential. you'd be out of here, you'd be so bored.

>> president trump unleashed, campaigning in pennsylvania, a political reason, stumping for rick saccone, the president had another campaign in mind, his own. >> our new slogan when we start running in, can you believe it, two years from now, is going to be keep america great exclamation point. >> and picking familiar targets as well as the new ones. >> can you imagine covering bernie or pocahontas, maxine waters is a low iq individual. >> nancy pelosi, you can't have that and conner humb, lamb the sham. >> the president stunned u.s. allies and his own advisers announcing he will meet north korean dictator kim jong-un face-to-face, meaning being planned. that contradicted what his own secretary of state had said just hours earlier. >> we're a long ways from negotiations. i think we just need to be very

clear united states and idealistic about it. >> white house officials scrambled to announce what exactly the president was announcing, adding new conditions to the meeting. >> they promised to de-nuke clearize. we have to see concrete and verifiable actions take place. >> walking those pre conditions right back. >> they're not sending missileing up. i believe that. i do. >> and there was confusion this week on tariffs. >> steel is coming back. >> half of the white house staff gone or headed for the exit, his presidency mired in a investigation, mr. trump decided he is the only one that can achieve a white house reset. he's going it alone, acting as his own negotiator and strategist. >> there will be people that change, they always campaign. >> he campaigned on being the only one able to strike best deals. >> nobody knows the system better than me, which is why i alone can fix it. >> now, he is tired of being

reigned in and taking advice from those around him. as if this isn't enough, he s has a growing sex scandal with stormy daniels, the white house is trying to deny these allegations. >> while simultaneously admitting, perhaps unintentionally, they are trying to silence her. >> i had conversations with the president, as i outlined earlier this case had been won in arbitration. >> joining me now is secretary treasury steve many nuven a principle of the council that dealt with sanctions, secretary mnuchin, welcome back to "meet the press." >> thank you, it's good to be here with you. >> thank you for getting up so early on the coast, i am painfully aware. >> just to be with you. >> let me start with something the president tweeted last summer, which is this, the u.s. has talking to north korea, playing them extortion money for 25 years. talking is not the answer!

what changed? >> the president is very clear in what the objective is here, that is to get rid of the nuclear weapons on the peninsula. we have been executing all year a maximum campaign, it's been effective. sanctions has been a part of that. we did more sanctions this year than the last ten years. there are no questions they are working and that's what's brought him to the table. >> let me ask to you respond to what national reviews editors wrote this weekend under the headline, don't meet with him. they where i this, north korean leaders have long sought summits with presidents as the ultimate means of legitimacy. what has kim done for this? he murdered otto warm bir and threatened missiles over japan. you cited the tough sanctions the national review says how can you reward kim jong-un with this when he murdered an american citizen among other things.

>> obviously, there are a lot of issues. but i find it amazing that the president has been criticized over the last year for being too aggressive. many said he should be using diplomacy. now we have a situation where the president is using diplomacy, we're not removing the maximum pressure campaign. >> that itself the big difference here the sanctions are staying on. the defense posture is staying the same as it is, so the president is going to at this time ri sit down and see if he can cut a deal. >> are there concrete actions the north koreans have to take to have this meeting happen as sarah sanders said? is there any confusion there? >> there shouldn't be a confusion, the president made clear the conditions are, there are no nuclear testing. if there are no missiles, those will be a condition through the meeting. >> very clear. are you comfortable here, elevateing kim jong-un to this status? he's a dictator. some think he's a murderous thug not a leader of a nation.

>> this isn't about elevating anybody. this is about the president has been very clear that he wants to do everything possible to protect america and its allies, that the existing situation of testing nuclear weapons and missiles is completely unacceptable. i've sat in multiple tri-lat meetings with japan and the president. he has been very clear. he's spoken to all the alliess and nato. we've had more u.n. resolutions than ever before. i think it's a clear strategy that is working. what would make this meeting not happen? there were some officials who anonymously told the "new york times" this was less than a 50% chance this meeting could happen? what would could knock it off the agenda is this. >> clearly, if they don't meade meeter that obligation on testing and missiles, that's obviously a clear condition of the meeting, but i would expect the meeting goes forward. i don't know why anybody would be handicaping this at 50%. >> fair enough. let me ask you this.

do you believe the north koreans would agree to this if they didn't already believe they had the nuclear weapons they needed to have to sort of protect themselves? . >> ehave classified information of what they have and what they don't have, so i'm not going to make comments or stick e speculaspe speculate on that. i do believe the major reason they're having this meeting is the economic sanctions had a big impact on both their economy and their getting pieces and materials for weapons programs. >> is de-nuclearization of the peninsula still the american policy and is that what president trump is going to demand in any meeting with kim jong-un? >> absolutely. we have been very clear on it. >> that itself objective. that's what we are going to accomplish. >> any clue yet on where this meeting is going to happen? u.s. soil? korean soil, north, south, chinese soil is this. >> those logistics haven't been fixed out yet.

i'm sure we will be working on those for the future. >> is there anything ruled out of those three locations? >> nothing i'm prepared to comment on. >> i want to ask you about the president's rally last night. he made a xhu comments about various folks. let me play one you have to be in front of congress quite frequently. that ache listen. >> maxine waters a very low iq individual, did you ever see her? did you ever see her? we will impeach him. we will impeach the president. but he hasn't done anything i don't think so, it doesn't matter, we will impeach him. he's a low ik individual. she can't help it. >> she's the ranking member on house financial services, if somebody on your staff referred to her as a low iq person, would that person be on your staff?

>> chuck, i have been with the president at campaigns. he likes to put names on people. he did that throughout the entire presidential election, including all the republicans that he beat. so these are campaign rally issues. >> so it's accepted so you are saying that is acceptable behavior for the rest of the administration or unique to him? >> again, chuck, this is something at a campaign rally and the president likes making funny names. >> all right. let me ask you. i will play another clip here about what the president said about the media versus kim jong-un. take a listen. >> a lot of bad people. a lot of fake media. look at them. fake, fake media. after having gone to my office and seeing kim jong-un and no it's very positive.

no. >> so the image of an american president encouraging boos of american press core and discouraging boos of a dictator from north korea. your reaction, sir? >> did you know first of all this president has created lots of news. okay. and there has been lots of misreporting on the president. what you should focus on is we've had a great week of results. so this is a historic situation of the president meeting with north korea with no pre conditions on the united states side whatsoever as well as steal tariffs. this was a booig big week for our trade and economic policy, we swab focused on creating solid growth. which a lot of people said would never get done, 30 years in the making, so the president is focused on economic growth and we're well aware and on our way to our target of 3% sustained gdp. >> i understand you wanted to

get back to an economic message. but the president of the united states in the past has been a beacon of freedom of press. instead last night, he was praising authoritarian figures in china and north korea and encouraging boos of the american press. does this mean the american president is no longer going to be preaching about the values of freedom of the press and democracy around the world? >> of course, he believes in freedom of the press and democracy around the world and he believes more important in protecting democracy around the world. that's what we should be focused on, a week of policies and as -- >> you keep saying, if we should be focused on. why hasn't the president been focused on it? >> i think he has been very focused. >> would you say last night's a focused speech? >> i wasn't at the rally. don't take the campaign rallies and focus on that's what it is. >> should we stop covering the rallies? do you think it's a mistake to cover them at all, if it doesn't matter what he says there, if we're to dismiss everything he

says at a campaign rally as i think are you trying to imply. >> no, you are putting words in my mouth. i wasn't in anyway saying you should dismiss that whatsoever and you should obviously carry them because these are important moments for the president and this is news. what i'm trying to say is, i'm focused on the policies and the policies have createled results we've had more results in the last year on both foreign policy and domestic matters. so what we should be focused on. what i came to talk about were the president's policies. >> i wanted to talk about those, obviously, he chose, final question for you, many people including myself raised their kids to respect the office of the presidency and the president of the united states, when he used vulgarity to talk about individuals, what are they supposed to tell their kids? >> again i'll be with my kids this morning. i'll be focused with them on what the president is doing to protect the united states, its

citizens and the economy. >> don't worry about his values. >> i've never said that whatsoever. i don't know why you are putting these words in what i'm trying to say. okay. so again, i am very comfortable with what we're doing. okay. again i think you are trying to take this out of perspective and imply something i'm not saying. >> fair enough. what are you supposed to say when he is using these vulgaritys to kids. >> again, i think you should be focused on what the policies are, he is using those in the campaign rally and obviously there were a lot of funny moments on that rally. >> they were hilarious. anyway,ing is mnuchin, i appreciate you coming on again, i know you had to wake up extra early. >> that i appreciate. thank you very much, sir. >> thank you. early this morning i spoke with arizona senator jeff flake and began asking him about the president's rally and mr. trump's kind words for kim

jong-un and harsh words for the press. >> i don't know where to start on this free press thing. he's done this before. he's referred to the press as the enemy of the people. he stood next to duterte as he referred to them as spies and laughed. and it has an effect. words matter. we had a record number of journalists being jailed oversea, some on false news charges, echoing the phrases that he uses. so i don't think it's a responsible thing to do. i really don't. >> you have gone to the floor of the senate and given multiple speeches sort of condemning the different things he's done in the presidency, really less on policy, almost the way his actions, the by a he has comported himself, he doesn't seem to listen. >> well, i think the risk is this becomes normalized and we take as normal what is abnormal. we should never normalize this kind of behavior, particularly

from the president of the united states. i think it does real damage long term to the political culture. it does. >> should the rest of your party be joining you in this? why don't they? it sort of gets to the point where isn't it getting a little out of control? >> i can tell you when every question you get in the hallway to vote becomes about this. it becomes tiresome. i don't blame my colleagues for saying i'm not going to comment anymore. but i think it's our responsibility at least at some point when he goes so far to stand up and say this is not normal. we should not normalize this behavior. >> all right. speaking of something that's not normal. the president of the united states sort of out of the not quite out of the blue but bucking his advisers agrees to this one on one with kim jong-un. you have said there is no good options with north korea. what do you make of this decision? >> it looks like north korea believes they can be treated as a nuclear power.

i think that's what it's about. >> you think he wouldn't be doing this if he didn't already have the weapon? >> they certainly haven't been able to test to deliver a nuclear warhead here. they still have a long way to go. but they are at some point i think they have to be treated as a nuclear power. so what i want to see, what all of us want to see is the prep work done for this kind of meeting. i was one who said years ago with president obama during the campaign says i want to sit down, i'll sit down with crass tro, i thought, well, good a president ought to never rule that out. but the important thing is the diplomatic who, that has to go in before such a meeting. a meeting like that would be an afterthought after things are negotiated. here it looks as if that's kind of the opening gambit. that's a little worrisome. >> given this is something that north korean leaders, kim jong-un and his father both craved which is a meeting with

the american president, has kim already won? >> like i said, you know, it depends on what we do now. we say let's step back, what work needs to be done, i tell you, you don't want to sit down with the leader of north korea and give him that victory unless you put the ground work in, unless your diplomats has negotiated things, what does it do to alines, non-proliferation? there are a lot of things, dozens and dozens of meetings, high level meetings that need to happen before this. >> de-nuclearization should be our policy? >> we say what policy is, i don't believe anybody believes north korea is prepared to de-nuke clearize, maybe a freeze, where they say, all right, we are nuclear power, let's get some security guarantees, but de-nuclearization, if somebody is saying, i heard it suggested, that's what the north koreans have agreed to i would question that. >> i want to go to the tariffs

issue. you have a bill, you want to block the tariffs on alluminum. do you want to introduce that now or see how many exemptions the united states allows now? >> i think it ought to be now. >> you are is there not an exemption are you if favor is? >> let's say couple that with uncertainty, that's almost worse. those are dual poisons to the economy. you know, tariffs are awful. tariffs married to uncertainty is probably even worse and then to have a president in a position to say, all right, australia, what are you going to do for me? wake up one say and say let's impose mortarives here or there, that's an all situation to be. one person basically deciding tariffs go up or down depending on what kind of behavior, is there something else he doesn't like? it's not the way to do business. >> is the republican party the party of free trade?

>> it's tough to make that case right now. really. i'm not saying not suggesting that what the president did wasn't popular in a lot of circles. it is, free trade is rarely popular out on the stump, you know, in a campaign, but usually after the campaign, the congress gets together and says, all right, let's pass trade promotion authority or let's pass this trade agreement. i think we're going completely in the wrong direction. we need to aggressively negotiate both bilateral and multilateral trade december, because we will be left behind. when we represent over 20% of the world's economy, 5% of the world's population, if we don't trade, we don't grow. we need to trade. >> i know you are in new hampshire when people go to new hampshire, it raises questions about running for president. let me ask you this, do you have any regrets about retire something. >> i love the senate. i love this institution. i love the congress. i'm not leaving because of any ill will toward my colleagues or

this place. this is a great system of government. >> why are you leaving? >> i just can't as a republican who believes in free trade limited government, economic freedom, i couldn't be re-elected in my party right now. somebody who voices reservations about where the president is, criticizes his behavior like last night, it's tough to be reelected in a primary. >> he is running again, he announced that last night. do you think he needs to be challenged by somebody has your views? >> i do. it wouldn't be a tough go in a republican primary. the republican party has, is the trump party right now. but that's not to say it will stay that way. >> senator jeff flake, republican from arizona, good to talk to you, sir. >> more campaign news than we intended to make anyway, when we come back, we will break down the president's decision on north korea and that unscripted speech last night in

pennsylvania and later the politician raising hopes for aggressives, senator elizabeth warren of massachusetts.

welcome back. panel is here, eugene robinson, andrea mitchell, . >> welcome pback. we have andrea mitchell. and national political commentator for national news. >> where do we start? >> i want to start with north korea. andrea this was in politico. it was a blind start from a former bush administration official nervous about this trump-kim jong-un meeting. it says this. nervous about this kim jong-un meeting. "trump does not have bad meetings. he has had bad phone calls. this is going to be a huge victory how doesfo any meeting between trump and kim not turn into a victory for the north koreans? >> it's hard to imagine how he does it. first of all, they've had a victory by setting the terms and

by having the meeting, itself, as you point out. this is what all north korea leaders wanted, three meetings, legitimacy from an american president it was not prepared. there was no rhetoric. we do not know what he is really offering and the treasury secretary repeated the phrase, de-nuclearization, our object siv de-nuclearization of the korean peninsula. >> that is a trap the korean peninsula means we eliminate our nuclear umbrella from our allies. we want him to give up his nuclear weapons, not for us to give up our security umbrella for japan. this shows you the lack of competence or familiarity with these details. they do not have a north-south korean expert. they don't have an ambassador. top expert just quit in frustration i am told because he could not tillerson would not take him to white house

meetings. there is no one in the house who knows this issue. >> okay. you know what -- it hasn't worked for 25 years. why not? >> sure. i understand that. he says people say they want diplomacy, diplomats running around. we've had diplomats running around, nothing got better. everything got worse. however, you have to know who things about this meeting, one is, we don't have any idea what can happen. you can argue maybe something good, maybe something bad, it's high risk. here's how it's high risk. normally you are talking to a country, negotiating private channels, getting things going, as they go well, you get a gift the gift is the meeting. but you pre-wired the negotiation. this is giving the gift and the reward ahead of time in hopes that it will guarantee good wiring and a good meeting. that's chancy. nobody knows how this goes.

>> what happens is the other party takes the gift, says thank you very much, starts again from a nationalist position. but what i think is rickier, though, to have donald trump and kim jong-un hurling insults and threats with each other and to have the u.s. administration talking about the absurd catastrophic idea of a giving a bloody nose to north korea a limited streak that could immediately mushroom into a local armageddon basically so i think great, if they want to sit down and talk, that's better than this alternative, which is where we seem to be drifting. >> i think the most interesting moments of the trump presidency, he throws the orthodoxy, throws a snap. >> that makes him the most interesting at his best moments. except, genes, he has at every

turn shown an unsettling appreciation for or lack of an tip think toward tier -- antipathy, as an american president one would think to have a deep felt conviction about democracy. you don't hear that from him. >> one quick point is he wants result, if we were to go into a meeting. i don't think it's a great idea at the front end, if he will say now our experts will work, this is just a get to know you. he wants results. he will be impatient. and what is the down side if he gets angry at what he experiences? then you es can lacalate this. >> then you don't have diplomacy to go to, because you exhausted your diplomacy and you go boom. >> i predict he will claim success if there is a meeting, he will claim success. the actual success will have been had by kim.

but i don't think he'll -- >> i got the deal maker. i got to bring up the rally a little bit. too me it was a culmination he wanted in this presidency. this was the presidency he dreamed of. but what was funny was about how he mocked the idea of being presidential. >> yes. >> watch. >> i'm very presidential. ladies and gentlemen, thank you for being here tonight. rick saccone will be a great, great congressman. he will help me very much. and then you go god bless you, annual god bless the united states of america, thank you very much. >> so i want to point to you up here, because he went after you. are you a nice lady, apparently you you write about him being a neanderthal at times. we note your column.

around him. it's crazy, but maybe it's working. then you write this, crazy doesn't last, crazy doesn't go to the distance, it's an unstable element that when let loose in an unstable environment explodes. if the president is the way he is on a good day, what will he be like on a bad day? . >> ityeah. that was a column in which i tried to wrap my head around how many folks in business and folks on the ground in american politics centrists, look at this white house you know in terms of this, this, and this, this is kind of working. then i look at this, this and this, hess action, i think he's kind of crazy. they have to go, it's kind of working, he's kind of crazy, it closes a disquiet and confusion. i have to say in fairness, isn't disqui ate nice word. he was very -- >> no, that was funny little routine. >> it was spoofy and there was, i think he was making fun of the

false formality meant to give an air of seriousness to our politician, i would like to know, he seems to think in this column i called him in neanderthal. i did not. i would no. i have been studying neanderthals. they had great cave paintings. they spoke of a certain sensibility. a certain artistic complexity, their tribes were organized. i would not call him a neanderthal. >> you got low iq. >> stop there, guys. all right. when i come back, it's senator elizabeth warren of massachusetts.

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the world is safer, but i am very worried that they're going to take advantage of him and it starts right where you ask this question, that is leaders of north korea for a very long time, the kim family, has wanted to meet face-to-face with a u.s. presiden president. >> that is a win for him. it legitimizes in their view, their decktatorship and legitimizes their nuclear weapons program. before they get that kind of prize we should insist they make real changes, verifiable changes to their programs. >> senator, the pra president would say we tried it traditional ways for 25 years. it hasn't worked. whether it's the country-to-country relationships. none of that's worked. what's wrong with trying to shake things up? >> look. i am in favor of shaking things up if you are sensible about it

but the idea of handing them the prize that we're going to, this north korean decktator will be able to show up in a photograph with an american president. that's the prize. that's the part they want. >> mark warner, one of the original drafters of dodd frank. you and he are on opposite sides of this legislation that is trying to revoke some provisions in dodd-frank that have to do with providing some relief. what he says for community banks and credit unions, smaller banks, barney frank says this is not going to make sa serious dent in dodd frank. why are sow vehemently opposed to these changes? >> if this were just a bill about community banks, i'd be all on board, but i oppose this bill because it's not and actually i think barney opposes it as well. >> he doesn't oppose it. he also said he doesn't think it was going to do much damage. >> let's talk about that.

it takes 25 of the largest 40 banks in america. those 25 got more than $50 billion in taxpayer bailouts. nobody went to jamie. it says let's regulate them as if there were tiny community banks that couldn't do damage to the economy. let's be clear. a quarter of a trillion dollar bank is not an unusual bang. >> it's not unusual to agree, some are taking issue with the tone, they were not happy when you sent a fundraising e-mail and in politico, anonymous attacks on you, i might grant you, here is one blind quote. so you want dems to win in all 50 states on the condition that they agree with the senior senator from massachusetts on everything all the time? this is the republican's dream, with i is to see democrats work across the aisle and elizabeth warren killed them for it. how do you respond? >> look, i don't understand how anybody in the united states

senate that will increase the likelihood of taxpayer bailoutles. it makes it easier for banks to discriminate on home mortgages, charges for more african-americans and latinos and that for whites. it makes it easier to cheap cheat people, buy mobile homes, if those are the kind of homes they live in. i don't think a bill like that is good for anybody in america. this isn't democrats and republicans or blue states or red states him i think that we do better as a country and we do better as a congress when we're there to fight for working people and not for wall street banks. >> if you win re-election this year, will you pledge a full six-year term? >> look, i am not running for president of the united states. i am running for the united states senate 2018, massachusetts, whohoo. but let me actually make an underlineing point on this one.

>> that is we can't be a party that says, oh, we're paying attention about what happens every four years. i know there is a lot of anxiety, particularly on the democratic side about how we are going to deal with donald trump in 2020. but right now, this week, united states senate is talking about a bill that will roll back protections. we've bought the the dreamers. we've bought the the tax bill that's gone through. we're still fighting to provide health care for everyone. we've now, we should be having a gun debate on the floor of the united states senate. it's not only about the election in 2018 where i think we do need to be laser focused. but it's about the fights every single day. >> i take it as a no? >> that's where i'm focused. >> i take it as a no you are not pledging to serve your term if you win the election. >> i told you, i have no intention of running for the president of the united states. >> i don't mean to pick on you. >> yes you do.

>> you know how many people said that two years before and ended up running for president. you see why a lot of people aren't going to believe that answer. >> look. what i'm telling you is that i am in these fights every day for the people of massachusetts, and for the people across this country. this government is working better and better and better for its thinner and thinner slice at the top. i am in these fights. aam in this fight to retain my senate seat in 2018. that's where i'm focused. that's where i will stay focused. i'm not running for president. >> no pledge on this six years. >> i am not running for president. >> duly noted. finally, i want to get you to respond to the berkshire eagle. were you to test positive, they want you to take a dna test. were to you test positive for native american dna, it would permanently resolve the russia -- while possibly shutting down president trump. should the test come up neg tivgs it would be an opportunity

for the senator to perform an act rarely seen among politicians. what do you make of that idea? >> so, let me tell you the story of my family. my mother and daddy were born and raised in oklahoma. my daddy first saw my mother when they were both teenagers. he fell in love with this tall quiet girl who played the diane no head over heels, but his family was bitterly opposed to their relationship. because she was part native american. they eventually eloped. they survived the great depression, the dust bowl, a lot of knocks. they raised my three brothers, all of whom headed off to the military and me and they fought, they loved each other and most of us, they hung together for 63 years and that's the story that my brothers and i all learned from our mom and our dad. from our grandparents, from all

of our aunts and uncles. it's a part of me. and nobody is going to take that part of me away. >> senator warren went on to claim that she's never benefitted from her native american heritage. can you see my entire interview with senator warren at meetthepress.com. i encourage, back in a moment with that special election in pennsylvania and why it's so important to president trump.

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welcome welcome back. as we saw earlier, president trump is diving head first into a special house race in pennsylvania's 8th congressional district. why the entrance in well, this version of the pennsylvania 18th shouldn't even be a battleground, president trump won this district by 20 points in 2016. the republican incumbent ran unaposed. now it's a total tossup. what happened? this suburban district designed by and for republicans, the version in fwent -- 2010, it's largely white, perfect for that version of the republican party. but times have changed. the president won 48% of college educated whites and now his rating is down further 29% the bottom line, president trump is trying to prove he can still win in what was recently trump

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as if we needed more stuff, this stormy daniels situation, it's salacious, it's predictable headlines. i want to put out what michelle goldberg wrote friday. it is becoming clear for all the details it isn't a sex scandal, a campaign finance scandal, transparency scandal and potentially part of an ongoing national security scandal. it's salacious but we should take it seriously. matt bai, is she right? >> you know how i am. it makes me uncomfortable. look, we spent the last three decades as an industry saying we don't care about your sex life, we care when your hypocrisy. you tell us how moral you are, then we find out how immoral you are. he's bragged about his sex life, likening it to vietnam. trying to evade the diseases during the '70s. i have enough reasons -- i have enough reasons on policy and on

behavior to be unsettled deeply by this presidency. i don't really need this one. >> i think it's a bigger story than that. i think there is plenty of hypocrisy going around, number one, the president is lying about the stormy daniels affair. he had sarah sanders come out and tell a story that made no sense. and then -- >> he's lying every day. >> i think people kind of get that. i also think frankly it raises the question about president trump's supporters and why, like the evangelical christian community, for example, people who in the past have been aghast at lapses of presidential morality, seem to be almost french at this point. >> i think part of the reason is what matt says about trump never put himself forward as morally exemplary. one of the things that hits me about the stormy daniels story quickly is that it doesn't seem to have had an impact really on anything. and the reason i think is that

those who don't like donald trump, it's more confirmation of their dislike. those who like him never had the illusion that this was in his personal life, an exemplary person. one of them tells me a year and a half ago. i said who are you electing? he said a junk yard dog. they saw it as donald trump's job to go in there and destabilize and be rough. >> access hollywood, that tape proves that people, voters have discounted this. they accept the fact that he was a womanizer and that there is a vulgarian in the oval office. that is the person a. i do think the lying is an issue, the lying from the podium is an issue. i hate the fact that they're lying about trade deficits. they don't even -- he is misstating the facts on trade deficits. that's important. but i do think that transparency and honesty is something that we need to expect from our president. >> melania may care about this story. i do think that sometimes -- you know, he's already feeling isolated perhaps by his team and

suddenly they're not there. but this morning the president's tweeting about his legal team. >> generally as president if you're tweeting about changes in your legal team, things aren't going the way you might have hoped. >> he's very comfortable denying "the new york times" story he's unhappy with his legal team. jay sekulow, ty cobb. >> that story was by magger haberman who was given no access. we happen to know -- he calls up, drags into the office to harangue. >> maggie wrote about him hiring is an impeachment expert. that bespeaks desperation -- >> the word impeachment was in the story. >> and the fact is that they are very worried about where mueller is going. they are in negotiations as to how to try to put the president out there or not, and they are worried about the outcome. >> if you were the president's lawyers, would you want him in a room with those prosecutors

under oath? >> guess what the alternative is? the alternative is a protracted legal argument which they will lose with a grand jury subpoena and something donald trump might be the first and only president of the united states who could do is to take the 5th amendment, and that is the equivalent to shooting people on 5th avenue and get away with it. take the 5th amendment by telling people, by inoculating, it's a witch hunt. this is what some people think is the whole diminishing of bob mueller, getting his base to believe he can take the 5th. >> take the 5th and pardon a couple people and walk away. that is an what he's going to try to do? >> other people might and will. >> give it a shot. >> maybe the only legal strategy. >> i understand. >> is that a legal strategy at this point or a political -- >> a political. >> it's the only political strategy. >> his only legal jeopardy is political, it's impeachment. >> not assuming it is giving bob mueller ever agrees to a time limit. >> of all days to lose an hour, this is the day we needed an

extra hour and then some. >> to avoid sleepy eye. >> that's all we have for today. knee an der that wills, sleepy eyes and all, we'll be back next week. if it's sunday, it's "meet the press." >> you can see more end game and post game sponsored by boeing on the "meet the press" facebook page. does this map show the peninsula trail? you won't find that on a map. i'll take you there. take this left. if you listen real hard you can hear the whales. oop.

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oh my gosh. this is amazing. we're so much closer to home ownership. welcome to "kasie d.c." i'm kasie hunt. we're live 7:00 to 9:00 p.m. eastern every sunday from washington. tonight, the president campaigns in pennsylvania, but there is new reporting out he's already getting cold feet about the republican candidate. we'll take you inside the remarkable race with former governor ed randall and boyle and costello. and anthony scaramucci joins us as more and more trump campaign insiders like hope hicks find themselves outside the white house. and just out tonight, brand-new reporting