lot of heads of state don't think his word is gold. >> i'm not making excuses. >> but they have to react publicly and protect themselves from their own public and they to say the president of the united states lies. >> thanks to you. that is it for our hour. i'm nicolle wallace, "mtp daily" starts right now. >> nicolle, and bill hurt and talking about crossing the line but they keep moving the sucker. i feel like that is where we are with president trump. we don't know where the credibility line is but we have to move it. >> i know. it is a crazy time. >> sure is. >> i feel like we're going to switch to cocktails soon up here. >> happy hour starts at 4:00. >> it does now. >> thank you. good evening and i'm chuck todd here in washington. we're following the breaking news in several fronts today, including the multiple developments surrounding the russian meddling and the special counsel investigation and the white house response and then

the breaking news down in my home town, in miami-dade, florida. just outside of the campus of florida international university, known as fiu. this afternoon a nearly thousand ton pedestrian bridge still technically under construction, hadn't been opened for use yet, collapsed across a six-lane highway. it is a busy intersection off of tamiami trail. and police say multiple people died and at least eight have been transported to the hospital and witnesses say the traffic light was red and cars were stopped under the bridge when the bridge gave way without warning. at least eight vehicles were crushed. rescuers are still carefully working to get to those cars. the most recent rescue happened last hour. it is not known if there are any more trapped survivors. at this point fiu is on spring break but there was a youth fair going on nearby and that was causing traffic at the time of the collapse. now this no so-called instant bridge was not being built over

the highway, but in an adjacent area. and it had just been swung into place last weekend. they bragged about the state-of-the-art way they were trying to build this bridge so not to cause disruption in traffic and as you could see in this time lapse video from the university, the walkway was being touted as a first of its kind bridge. and was not expected to open for the public until early 2019. it was actually constructed after a student was hit and killed at the intersection last year. the ntsb is on the way to the saep to investigate the cause of this collapse. governor rick scott is headed to the campus to be briefed by officials and the white house is also monitoring the situation. rescue operations are expected to continue into the night until they can account for every single one of the boodys -- the cars. we'll keep you up to date if we have good news to report about any more rescued survivors. turning now to a busy 24 hours of political news.

but let's boil it down in a more simple way. the president and his credibility is going down. and robert mueller's credibility is going up. and they are on a dramatic collision course. today all 13 of the russians that mueller recently indicted for meddling in our election were sanctioned by the president's treasury secretary meaning mueller's findings were given a white house seal of approval. it is hard to mueller's investigation is a hoax when his work is seamingly dictating white house decision making when it comes to foreign policy. and a little over three hours later, "the new york times" broke this story. that mueller has subpoenaed the trump organization. he ordered them to hand over all documents related to russia and other topics he's investigating. he didn't ask the trump organization for corporation. he went straight to the subpoena. and in a statement the trump organization said it is fully cooperative with the investigation. so as mueller's word is seemingly getting more credible, the president's is not.

yesterday mr. trump admitted to making things up while talking with justin trudeau. here is a president speaking yesterday in missouri for senate candidate josh holly. an auto of his remarks were leaks and we've confirmed the authenticity of this ourselves. here is a sampling. >> trudeau came to see me, he's a good guy. justin. he said, no, no we have no trade deficit with you. we have none. donald, please -- i said wrong justin -- i df-- i didn't even know. i didn't know. >> he just said it. why the president would boast about that isn't entirely clear. his defense on twitter, i was right. we do have a trade deficit with canada. but the office of the u.s. trade representative said the president is wrong. the u.s. goods and services trade surplus with canada was $12.5 billion and the source the u.s. trade representative office.

but sarah huckabee-sanders insists the president is right. and so she decided to cite data from the u.s. census for 2017 to prove her point. but her data includes trading goods only with canada. goods, not services. wondered are they cherry picking their data. we are not trade experts but we know somebody who is. at cnbc, steve liesman and the trade with canada, including both goods and services for 2017 and that number was -- you guessed it -- a surplus. we've had three years running of trade surplus with canada and not deficit. it appears as if the president said something wrong and doubled down and the white house found a misleading set of facts in an attempt to prove that he is right. it is a very long way of showing you that it is very hard to take this president or the white house at their word. we just showed you a -- they totally misled us on canada. the president already has a credibility problem on capitol

hill. is he going to now have the same problem with world leaders after admitting to making stuff up when he speaks with them one-on-one? joining me now is steven hadley, security adviser for president george w. bush. welcome back to the show. >> nice to be here. >> let me start with sanctions. i think i saw both senators graham and mccain put out statements saying about time, this is what needs to be done. in your opinion, tough enough? >> about time, needs to be done, probably coming late as you pointed out earlier in the show, following on the heels of mueller. i suspect mueller will give them more opportunity to sanction folks as well and they ought to do that. but in addition to the issue about sanctioning russia, we need to be paying as much attention to hardening our electoral infrastructure, which is after all critical infrastructure, so whether it is russia, china, iran, north korea, nobody can do this again beginning in the november 2018

election. so yes, we've got to crack down on russia, we have to make it clear that this can't be done. but we have to harden -- we're on notice. and if this happens again, the blame is on us. >> right. now -- i think that is a very fair statement. let me ask you. this does putin see today's action as a gut punch or a slap on the wrist? >> you know, i think he's pretty much absorbed this notion that we're going to be doing these sanctions. i think it is the right thing to do. but quite frankly, there have been sanctions in the past, this is not the first set of sanctions imposed because of his meddling in the election. and quite frankly, it doesn't seem to have deterred him much and that is one of reasons we have to now take matters into our own hands and prevent. >> that is what -- i hear you there. but i want to go to something gary casperoff, the long time chess master -- well-known putin critic ran against him for president. >> right. >> he said the response -- and he was referring to what the

u.k.'s ousting of the 23 russian spies back to moscow for the poisoning there on british soil and then the united states, france and germany signed on backing up what the u.k. did. but casperoff is arguing, yes, these are -- these are the correct measures and this is an appropriate response but he was arguing for a disproportionate response. his argument is putin -- he can absorb in use your words sh the proportionate responses. he needs to be punched in the nose essentially. is he right? >> it depends. it is great rhetoric. and you -- i think we could all agree with the spirit of it. the question is so what does that look like? that is what i'm asking you. that is why you're here. what does that look like? >> one of the things is there are other -- one of the things that putin know -- we know does not like is the magnitsky act here. that is something that european capitals could be doing in their own capitals in terms of

legislative basis for this kind of thing. that certainly is one of the terms that we can do. second of all, i think we need to look at those russians who are in the united states. and we need to monitor the situation. so russian agents can't get into this country, can't get into the u.k., and do this kind of stuff. that is a second -- the question is, thirdly, we heard a very hawkish speech from russia from putin touting his -- his offensive nuclear weapons. i think there has to be a response to that. the nuclear posture review is part of that. our own offensive systems -- we need to do more on ballistic missile defense and think about how to deter putin from thinking of using those systems. so there is a -- this is one issue. but there is a much broader question of the need to have a much broader strategy for dealing with putin and what he's doing. >> does it matter to putin that

the president himself has never put himself out front in criticizing russia? >> you know, people will say that. i think the president is gradually moving a little too slow, i think, but the president is moving. he's now said it is pretty clear that the russians were behind the intervention of the election and he's called for hardening our system. he's now agreed that the russians were behind the poisoning in london. he's clearly trying to keep open the option for a personal relationship with putin in the event there is an opportunity to improve that relationship. but that is not going to come until we get this intervention in the election through our political system and i don't think it will come until we do something about getting ukraine back in control of the do-- they have taken control of. >> a president caught on tape admitted that he tried to pull one over on an ally, how does

that sit with world leaders? can the president word's be taken. >> this is a different kind of leader than we've had for a long time. and he says a lot of things on a lot of different sugge-- subjecd some where right and some are wrong. as i read the press report he said he didn't know for sure whether there was a deficitment but he assumed there was a deficit because we have a -- because there is a deficit between and the united states and most countries. and then when he was challenged on it, he asked folk foz go a--k up the fact and probably talking about goods, not services which is the distinction you drew up before. i think world leaders now know this man and know how he operates. i don't think they'll overreact too much to it. probably overrackeact less than have here. >> they'll adjust is what you are saying. >> they'll adjust. >> we're still the united states. steven hadley. thank you for coming on. much appreciated.

>> delighted to be here. i want to go to the other big story of the day. so joining me to help is the former u.s. attorney and now an msnbc contributor joyce vance. i want to talk about the mueller subpoena of the trump organization. i think the surprise here is that it was a subpoena and not a request for documents. do you assume -- a request was made and denied and that is why -- what was your reaction to the subpoena aspect of this? >> i think we have to be careful not to make assumptions here but something that we've heard from the trump organization over time is that they were in a cooperative posture with the mueller investigation and sharing documents that were needed. so this news that there is now a subpoena that the subpoena was issued some weeks ago is definitely a different trend. and does it signify anything? it may just be mueller trying to cut square corners. but far more likely it indicates that they need a document of

legal significance that offers them teeth. and whether that is because cooperation was faltering or because they were not receiving documents that they expected would be in the company's possession, but we'll learn more as weeks move forward but it does signal a change in attitude. >> so he wants trump organization and all things having to do with russia. so what does that tell you about what -- how he's going about this investigation. i have a theory but i'm curious what you would say to this and what you would be comfortable saying? >> i haven't seen the exact language of the subpoena. and that is something that we'd like to see. some prosecutors will occasionally write a broad subpoena and then negotiate the details with the folks they are seeking documents from. this is a subpoena deuce us tan can't cloak the production of documents so the fact it is focused on all things russia,

indicates to me that there is some coming together of these different themes of trump's prior dealings in russia long before he became a candidate of those developments in russia that were con tem ptemporaneous the campaign and the trump tower in moscow and then whether or not those pre-existing financial relationships had anything to do with the approach from russia in the 2016 trump tower meeting in manhattan, that offer of help meeting. but this really suggests that mueller at least is investigating whether there is a commonality among all of that conduct. >> let me ask you this. if the -- if the special counsel wants to see the tax returns for the trump organization and a slew of llc's that are related because essentially every development project that the trump organization starts, usually is the own llc. it is something we all learn going through the president's personal financial disclosure. could he get those records

without going through the trump organization? could he go through -- subpoena the irs or bank records or is he -- to get those filings he has to go to the trump organization directly. >> he can absolutely get those without going to the trump organization directly. it is something prosecutors do routinely. >> do you assume he's done that. >> i would assume -- that would be the first thing that he did. >> so he probably already has tax returns for every llc and you probable -- and probably already has financial records with deutsche bank, people like that? are those things that he would already likely have and not have to go through the trump organization to get? >> exactly. those are the types of financial records -- financials that prosecutors use to follow the money, chuck. so one facet of this new subpoena request to the trump organization could be possibly to see if what the organization turns over to mueller matches what he already has, what he knows about and what he expects.

or whether they're with holding information from him. that is one possible spin on this. >> so this could be a test. if you are the trump organization, the smart thing to do is assume mueller knows everything? >> and mueller certainly does at this point. >> that is an interesting way of putting it. joyce vance, former u.s. attorney down there in birmingham. thank you very much for coming on and sharing your views. >> thanks for having me. up ahead, more on the subpoena of the trump organization and what does it mean for the russia probe. there was a tripe -- a time when trump said going to his financials would break the record. we'll have that next.

we are back tonight on meet the midterms, looking ahead to the next election which is happening on tuesday in illinois. the primary races there -- a little bit of everything. a fight for the democratic party soul as a long time congressman

faces a challenge from the left. progressives want to push out a conservative democrat for a candidate backed by bernie sanders and then the suburban districts where they are more fired up. seven democrats want to take on peter ross com in a district hillary clinton carried in 2016 and we've seen a battle of the billionaires for the governor and will we see one this fall. both republican bruce rauner and j.b. pritzker have to get through the primary and they are spending like crazy. if they both win -- the illinois governor's race will be the most expensive race in the country, probably in all time as well airs, two of them, would pour so much of their own money into the campaigns. but by the way, they both actually have fairly tough primaries. it is an interesting tuesday. we'll be back with more "mtp daily" in 60 seconds.

welcome back. let's get right to the panel so i could watch the basketball game. i'm kidding. my colleague here at nbc news,

carol lee and bill crystal and daniel deeth a. carol, i want to begin with the subpoena in the trump organization because i want to remind people it was a new york times interview, i believe this summer with maggie haberman and i think michael schmidt where the president said the more mueller get news his personal finances or his business that would be a bridge too far. well, my guess is that is why he had to do a subpoena. >> right. and he -- the question was whether it would be too far if it was unrelated to russia and he -- so there was that piece. and we know this subpoena is russia related but also other things. and we don't know specifically what they are. i think this -- the potential for this to set the president off is so high. the white house already is sort of like this powder keg and has

been in the last week and this is just -- this is exactly what the president said he didn't want. and in that interview it said, would you consider firing mueller, would that lead you to fire him if he went in this direction and i said i don't have to worry about that because he is not going to do that and clearly he is and i think the team knew he was looking into his businesses but this subpoena is very tangible and something very hard to contain the president on. >> and what is interesting about it is, i'm guessinged records he wants from the trump organization are records he think he already has or may know what records they should have. >> right. and as we've seen though in this -- what's her name -- the adult film actress -- i forget her name. >> stormy daniels. >> i wanted to see who was the quickest. >> i knew. >> what he's trying to say is don't look at his cookies. >> but there is interesting

material and interesting developments on what the lawyers did and didn't do and who paid for the check. so there may be other things that they might not be the most careful -- and stuff could you learn by getting records even if you have other records from deutsche bank and so forth. >> the trump personal finances and organization have been to intertwined. and we're finding out that this russia probe -- and you brought up stormy daniels, but michael cohen is going to be a -- an extraordinarily important figure. because he's everywhere. >> his tentacles are all over this. and i worry about what is going to happen to bob mueller. >> wouldn't put it past trump to try and fire him and i think the onus is on congress to do something to protect his job and make sure he doesn't do that and he will fire sessions, that is the latest rumor. was that this week or last week. everything is blurring together at this point. so -- >> i'm curious what you think -- >> i gather that right after the story broke this afternoon from the new york times, people on

fox news right away were saying it is out of control. what is rod rosenstein doing? he's supposed to be controlling and mueller has to report to him to get guidance and fox is going after that rod rosenstein needs to be disciplined and sessions recused. so you could see -- >> the seed for trump. >> so some of the outside people -- trump wants to fire sessions but does he have the nerve to do it. >> and what does he get? he might feel good about it but if you are trying to talk to the president about who you might want to fire, jeff sessions -- it just doesn't make sense that it would make him feel good in the moment but he doesn't get anything out of it. >> getting someone not recused and pruitt to get -- >> could he get somebody true. >> it doesn't matter. he has to be acting attorney general and confirmed for another position and then firing mueller and people sit around and say well that is short-sided ant the republicans on the hill will go crazy and the investigation will go on at some point. i don't know, doesn't trump buy a few months by firing mueller. >> and are we confident that republicans on the hill are

going to go crazy? >> i don't think your republicans on the hill will do anything. >> one thing that donald trump has -- has one consistent m.o., buying time. that is what a counter lawsuit is for. it is not -- if he can't win in the moment, buy time because maybe down the road something changes. something else happened at the hill at the time this broke that makes me think this is a bizarre way that cornyn are trying to save mueller. grassley and graham and cornyn and tillis put out a release calling for the attorney general to appoint a special council to help the inspector general investigate the fbi. now i know this is going to be a back -- but if sessions agrees to do that, does that buy him time to stay in his job? >> yeah. it could. >> and it would save mueller. >> it would potentially save mueller. >> i know that is a -- >> it is. but if you look at the way republicans have handled this, the one -- one of the main things that has kept them from

doing -- taking big steps is because of mueller. that is why they don't -- they don't go after the president and dig into things. there is this kind of serenity with the situation because he's in place and so you could -- they don't want him to go anywhere. because they want this to be -- there is a number who actually want this to be thoroughly looked at. >> does that work. >> i know how lindsay thinks and he's going, jeff, you have do do this. if do you this, it will buy you time. >> give you cover. >> it gives you cover. >> all of the republican critibs of the fbi and the investigation -- we're having a special investigation into that and now we got away from the special counsel and that will take a few months. >> can't fire mueller in the middle of this. >> and that gives republicans the benefit of the doubt in terms of motive. >> and i'm okay with that. but the reason i think there might be something to this is because cornyn signed off. grassley and graham were doing this. cornyn has been wanting to protect mueller.

>> former judge. >> i think you are right. i had never thought about it that way. and this is me giving some credit to republicans. if this is truly what the end out come is, then good for them. >> trudeau. how significant is it when a president is caught basically trying to pull the wool over the eyes of the fellow world leader? >> it is not great. but i think the firing of tillerson, if i were a leader -- >> president of crystal -- >> i wouldn't be president of that. but i think i would be more freaked out by the firing of tillerson and the way it was done. it was so unbelievable when you think about it. told to hurry back from his trip and given the impression that he would have to get to meet with the president to make his case. he knew he was in trouble and landing at 4:00 a.m. coming back from africa and he finds out at 8:00 he's fire and never sees the president. the kind of -- his own a -- appointee, his secretary of state, it is astonishing and

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welcome back. this week's special election in pennsylvania showed not only that republicans may have more to lose in november than they thought. but also they might not know how to win right now. they tried touting the tax cuts and linking democrat conor lamb to nancy pelosi and tried accusing him of letting a drug king pin off the hook and nothing seemed to stick. so what do they do now? it doesn't seem like republicans have anything significant plan add head of the midterms to run on. repealing obamacare or infrastructure and none of that looks on the horizon but could that change. joining me is steve stiebers of

ohio compare of the committee and leading the party efforts to keep the house. good to see you, sir. >> good afternoon, chuck. by the way, your my -- your miami hurricanes are busting my bracket. >> how do you think my bracket looks at this point. yeah. they busted mine pretty hard. let me start with lessons learned from tuesday. do you really -- do you take away that conor lamb ran like a republican and that is why there is nothing to worry about or are people saying that whistling past their own political graveyard? >> well, chuck, i think it is important that we take lessons away from wins and losses. this was our first special election loss and we need to take it very seriously. the nu-- the number one lesson take is our candidates need to have the resource so win and define themselves. chuck, most people -- it is two days after the election and most people don't know that our

candidate rick saccone was an air force veteran. that he's one of the nation's foremost experts on north korea. which is a huge national security issue right now. and he's written books about north korea. but people didn't know about it. he didn't define himself well enough. and that opened him up to attacks and made his voters less anxious to come out and vote for him. so we know how to win we immediate to make sure we execute and that our candidates have the resources to win. those are the most important takeaways. but the other takeaway, there is a little bit that is important to talk about -- about this race where conor lamb had no primary, so he could position himself differently than a lot of democrats who have to run to the left in a primary. >> i want to ask you about the president's impact here. because it was interesting, at a fundraiser last night the president s-- himself said this we have an interesting time because we lifted saccone seven points. that is a lot. i lifted seven and it would normally be enough and we'll see

how it comes out and it is virtually a tie. and karl rove writes, trump should avoid rallies in the closing months. he drowns out a candidate message and makes the news about whatever wild line he slings into the ether and in that same column rove claim that's saccone was winning going into the weekend and he believes trump's rally cost saccone the race. so tell us, was saccone up before the president came to visit or not? that is what mr. rove claims. >> well, our numbers were consistent with the fact that saccone was down about six points on friday. and frankly the monmouth poll had him down i think five to seven points and so that is pretty consistent. and obviously he finished a near tie. two tenths of a point behind. we haven't counted all of the votes yet because there are provisionals and a few military

ballots. but it -- we essentially closed to about six to seven points in the final days and clearly the president was there over the weekend. so -- >> so you believe he helped. >> that sounds consistent to me. >> you believe -- you believe he helped. but do you look at this race -- >> i believe he helped in the closing week, yes. >> but is this race close because of him too? could both things be true? that he helped make the race closer and he helped saccone at the end? >> chuck, it is true that the president motivates the democratic base. but it is also true that he motivates the republican base. so -- but it is true, absolutely, that the race was about a five to six to seven point race with lamb advantage and then saccone closed in the closing days, friday, saturday and sunday and monday, tuesday. >> at the end of the calendar year in 2017, speaker ryan and -- and senate republican leader mcconnell seemed to

indicate there wasn't going to be a big legislative effort in 2018. i know there was some hopes but that -- there wasn't, in fact, mitch mcconnell made it clear at the retreat, they're not going to do a budget. do you risk having the republican majority go through calendar year 2018 and come october not being able to answer the question of what did you do in 2018? >> well i think we are going to do things in 2018. we just did school safety the other day. there is more to do on school safety, mental health. i think you'll see even some gun legislation. so i think there will be things we'll do. i think we'll do a lot of things on jobs, job training. i think we'll do an infrastructure bill. they might not be giant bills, but they're bills that make a difference. and so i think we'll serve our communities and serve our country and solve the problems of the american people and i don't know that we'll do giant bills but we'll solve problems. and that is what the american people want. >> do you -- is it fair to say that the tax cut message didn't

work in this district or did you believe it was wasn't executed properly? >> well, chuck, it was -- i think it was a little early because frankly this race started in october, before tax reform even passed. and then most people haven't even seen the tax cuts in their paycheck, the with holding tables just changed, especially if you work in a small business. you won't even see it until april. a lot of big businesses are just now putting it in the checks. so i think it is just starting to work. and i believe tax reform will continue to get more popular. and frankly the economy will be booming by next november -- by this november and i think that is the real signal of whether tax reform worked. so i believe it is going to continue to snow ball and get more popular. >> but -- >> i think it was early to run on tax reform, chuck. >> you just didn't think that the public wasn't ready to -- to digest the argument. >> well the -- the benefits of tax reform have not had a chance to run through the economy or

even in people's individual paychecks yet and because of the -- how unpopular it it first passed and it is getting more popular every day and you could see that in all of the polls, chuck. people still don't believe it until they see. it and i told a lot of people it is early to run on tax reform because people aren't seeing it in their check yet and we'll see. i believe it will get more popular and i think it will be an important part of the great american comeback that we'll be selling in november of this year. >> can you get through the month of march without another retirement or is ryan costello somebody -- you're worried he may not run again? >> i think ryan will run. i think -- we're already through a bunch of filing deadlines. i don't think they'll be -- a lot of new retirements. there are a couple of people that you're always looking at until they file. but so far i feel like we're going to make it through march and we'll have a lot -- >> you're not going to be blindsided based on this result?

>> i've been blinded sided before, chuck. so i would like to tell you i'll not get blindsided but it occasionally happens. there is a punch of people that didn't call me and i read it in the paper. >> fair enough. congressman, thanks for coming on and apologies for busting your bracket. >> it is all good. >> i had them going to the eight. >> i only had them winning a game but it would have been nice. >> thank you, sir. up ahead, it is bracket-ology, "mtp daily" style. what is left of it. you know what they say about the early bird...

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welcome back. tonight you know what i'm obsessed with. it is brackets, college hoops an march madness. it should be a national holiday. in keeping with our one year tradition here at "mtp daily," we offer you highly unlikely but poetically pleasing match-ups. you won't see these anywhere else and maybe there is a reason. we begin with what could be the lone star shootout, and texas tech and tcu, could all technically meet in the final four. that is your don't mess with texas final four. how about an all american buffalo final four. you could have the university of buffalo at buffalo bowl, apologies for the of, the marshall thundering herd, the lipscomb bison and the bucknell bison. buffalo burgers for everybody. football more of your things. here are some to consider. a final four that had miami and

alabama and ohio state and clemson. i would laugh about it. but miami can't do that any more. and finally this being a political show, how about a senate final four. four states that mie decide who controls the senate, arizona, west virginia, montana and michigan state. by the way, if you've picked any of these on your own, congratulations. your bracket is already busted. we'll be right back. i was a c130 mechanic in the corps, so i'm not happy unless my hands are dirty. between running a business and four kids, we're busy. auto insurance, homeowner's insurance, life insurance policies. knowing that usaa will always have my back... that's just one less thing you have to worry about. i couldn't imagine going anywhere else. they're like a friend of the family. we are the cochran family, and we'll be usaa members for life. save by bundling usaa home and auto insurance. get a quote today.

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>> time now for "the lid", hillary clinton speaking in india with a comment that sounds like her much maligned but did it in a less quotable way when she used used deplorables in that comment during the campaign, is the 2016 t nominee making it tougher for democrats in 2016. a lot of democrats shook their head on this one, didn't they? were you like ugh? why did she say it that way? >> yeah, it was not a great statement to make. she was in india when she said this, i believe. when it comes to hillary clinton -- >> so you're saying possibly hate speech. >> she's not here, she's not like on the campaign trail. the people who like love to keep hillary clinton in their mouths are the media and donald trump and the republicans. i think we need to let her live

and let her go off and do whatever it is she is doing, but there seems to be this desire to pull her back and relitigate 2016. >> plus that entire russia investigation that helps us relive 2016 daily. >> that is true. so i don't think we need hillary clinton also to do that. >> you know, bill, it's funny. normally, you see the losing nominee, when a president gets unpopular, there's buyers remorse. there's buyers remorse about trump and it doesn't impact here, it doesn't go to her benefit. like they're equally still has polarized as ever. >> if i was running the national senator committee, i would have hillary clinton hugging claire mccaskell, and then hillary clinton calls the missouri voters backwards, and i would put that ad in alabama and north dakota.

the democrats are defending a lot of red states and reminding red state voters that some states in the democratic party don't have the highest regard for them would be foolish. >> speaking of claire mccaskell. >> when does hillary clinton ride into the sunset? what's the answer? >> not soon enough. she's bashing the middle of this country and my state again. i don't need her to do that. >> she's on with -- that's her brother, her brother is a conservative radio host in north dako dakota. carol, wow. >> what a change. that's what i thought was funny, bill saying all that, hold my coffee. >> it was great and it might have worked before, but democrats are much more willing to distance themselves from her. and we saw them in 2016 too, distancing themselves from the

clintons generally. >> here's claire mccaskell, those are kind of partial to me, because i'm kind of partial to missouri voters, i think they were expressing their status quo. we're going to see hillary clinton in a whole bunch of ads, aren't they? >> to carol's point, i think democrats have learned how to sort of pivot off of that and i think you saw it happen in pennsylvania. like these races are going to be about local issues and local candidates and as much as they're going to try and nationalize things, democrats are going to learn that's not the way. >> this is going to be a wave, that's why conor lamb won in pittsburgh. and i think it will lead democrats to take control of the house, but ironically the wave may help republicans hold the senate, because if it becomes a national election, missouri was plus 19 trump state, indiana same thing, north dakota, god knows what. >> republicans can help.

>> in a nationalized election, if they can localize it, those are popular politicians in their states. >> can i tell you what's amazing when we started, just let her alone, she's not going to be popular in the campaign. neither is bill clinton. what we have seen here is the full lansing of the clintons off of the party. >> and given the fact that this is the first time that the white house and democrats were agreeing. i mean you had both of them saying the same thing about hillary clinton, like just stop talking. and i think people generally -- what she said, i think is what a lot of people believe she really feels. >> before i let you go. you have this interesting scoop today. on a -- on saudi arabia. where the crown prince is hiding his mother. is she imprisoned by him? what is going on with the crown prince? is he withholding the mother

from the king? very confusing. >> a lot of people, including people in the intelligence community. what they know is that more than two years ago, he moved to keep her away from his father and he has made up -- >> why, to protect her or to protect him? >> intelligence shows that he felt she might intervene somehow, she's very interested in his father and to block him from where he is now, so it's a complete power play. up ahead, today is not st. patrick's day, but don't tell washington.

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now you can get it, too. welcome to the party. in case you missed it, today the thursday, thursday march 15, to be exact. the ides of march. do you know what today is not? st. patrick's day, that's two days away, that's march 17. but to those on the nation's capital think they can just move things around. speaker ryan hosted his annual st. patrick's day luncheon two days early. and i assure you that not a lot of people on capitol hill are going to work tomorrow. so i say we take a page from d.c. and take a day off tomorrow. did you know that today is sewa seward's day in alaska? who's seward? i don't know.

just take the day off. also saturday september 15 is national cleanup day, but who wants to clean up on a weekend. so let's do it on a friday, if you're messy, take monday as well. so is washington working for you? not tomorrow, or the day after, or if it's too inconvenient to celebrate a day in washington, just change the day. "the beat" with ari melber starts right now and there's nobody that loves separating st. patrick's day two days early is ari melber. >> thanks, chuck todd, i'm here live in washington on a very big day. this bombshell has been drop and it's sending shockwaves from the white house all the way to donald trump tower. bob mueller is demanding legally that the president's company, the trump organization turn over information related to russia. they want all documents