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african-american women who are victims of gun violence. i'm here to say never again for those girls, too. >> the people demand a law banning the sale of assault weapons. the people demand we prohibit the sale of high-capacity magazines are the demand universal background checks. stand for us or beware, the voters are coming! our live coverage continues. i'm ari melber. we've been looking at a massive show of force, a history-making run to end gun violence right here in the nation's capital. but the big question is what happens next? in florida we've seen some gun control legislation passed in the wake of the parkland massacre, but what happens in washington and in the congress and around the country after we witness what happened today, something relatively unusual. a million people marching for gun control reform.
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and what happens after demonstrators flood the streets in many other cities you can see here around the country today, san francisco, dallas, boston, atlanta, miami and l.a., just some of the places where crowds were even larger than expected. in washington this was of course led not by an interest group, not by a long planned political process, but led by people who became activists because they were survivors, students from parkland, from the massacre that left 17 murdered and is now spreading around the country. >> i would like to not worry about dying and focus on math and science and playing basketball with my friends. [ cheers ] . >> don't i deserve to grow up? >> for far too long, these names, these black girls and women have been just numbers. i'm here to say never again for those girls, too. >> it's time for the nation to
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realize gun violence is more than a chicago problem or parkland problem, it's an american problem. >> i have lived in south l.a. my entire life and have lost many loved ones to gun violence. this is normal. normal to the point that i have learned to duck from bullets before i learned how to read! >> it was a movement that went global today. the marches ranged across six continents and here in america across all 50 states. another important number is five. that's how many school shootings we have seen since the parkland massacre just 38 days ago. now, the mission statement of this march was pretty clear. organizers saying they're demanding a comprehensive and effective bill immediately before congress to address all of these gun issues. what does that legislation look like? after today are we closer to it becoming a reality? we want to take our live coverage here and go forward into what comes next. christine linenin is with me. her son was killed in the pulse
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night club shooting in orlando and our other two guests survived a mass shooting and also joined by our democratic strategist who has an eye on what will go down in congress. across the table today, what did today mean to you? >> it was epic. it was epic highs and epic lows. i couldn't believe the number of speakers that touched me emotionally and the support in the community. it's endearing to know that so many people are taking gun violence seriously now. this has been brewing, i know since my son's murder i've been vocal but it hasn't reached the level of parkland, and i think
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it's because there were three hurricane force shootings in four and a half months. so these kids grow up with active shooter drills and then they get hit bam, bam, bam, one category i hurricane after another, vegas, sullivan springs and then them. how do you rebound from that psychologically? these kids are rebounding in the only way they know and that's to speak out and they speak out in social media and they rallied the world. >> it was so inspiring to see the students today, their courage, their initiative. most can't even vote yet but it will be a tidal wave when they can, i think. and it's just -- it's amazing. and i know christine just mentioned the active shoot aer drills. they've grown up with this in their schools and they are demanding change and we are there to support them as the other survivors of shootings and
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the other tragedies. >> jason? >> these kids today just amazing. the air around everyone there, when it was silent, it was so silent and when it got loud, it was so loud. such a great feeling. the vegas shooting, we survived along with 20 other people, it just took these 14 kids to start a revolution. it was unbelievable to see finally something happening. >> yeah, these young people have taken a really tragic moment and turned it into a global movement. this is not going to go away any time soon. if you look across history, every movement that's been powerful has been started by young people, 18-year-olds, 19-year-olds and 20-year-olds. i think we're seeing that now. and what's also awesome to me, the undertone was highly political, even though it want partisan. we have carlos guillermo smith
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in the pulse district elected there. we are see mothers and these young people planning to run for office to get rid of these elected officials who do nothing on both sides of the aisle for that matter. i think the power for the political moment and the democracy in action is what's going to resonate for decades to come. >> let's take a listen to a few democrats talking about what they saw today and perhaps being more vocal on this issue than they have been at other times in recent history. >> a.r.-15s don't belong in our streets. these kids are holding us accountable. >> the young people who were out there in the street today, they are not going to settle for the same old same old. they want change and they have the energy. >> they're teaching us. i'm not giving them a message, they're giving as you message. >> jason, how do you test that against what politicians also
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do, certainly in both party, which is say the right things on the right day and then move along? >> i think it's a matter of creating this moment and turning it into this movement. we need to keep pushing and keep making sure they do more. we see small pieces happening, but we really need comprehensive reform. i think this is what starts today. i think we started with a million in d.c. it going to grow. this is just the beginning. you see them empowered. they want to go out and do more. they're young kids with a long life ahead of them and a lot of time on their hands to make sure something happens. >> did either of you who lived through a similar type of mass shooting have strong views on gun control before hand or do you feel this was a process where you got more engaged afterward? >> i certainly got more engaged. now 40% of americans know someone who has died by gun violence and more and more people every day sadly, and those people are going to get their families involved, their friends involved, their
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communities involved to make sure that this comprehensive change happens. and i'm certainly one of them. >> i grew up in suburban florida, not that far from both pulse and parkland. many of my friends owned guns back then and i just thought it was normal, thought it was a normal part of life. i moved up to the northeast and a lot of my more conservative friends would tell me how fine it was. at that time i didn't know the issue until i was under gun fire. that's the moment that i woke up. this is not acceptable. change needs to happen. it wasn't an issue for me and now it's the only issue for me. >> well, i'm hopeful and optimistic but cautiously optimistic because, like you say, people, politicians put the spin on it, say the right words, get elected and do nothing. and that's been historical. and even though young people have been the voice or power to change historically as well, i'm
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cautiously optimistic because i'm going to wait until november. and november will be telling. it will -- we will know whether this march was effective. >> i totally agree with you. you know, what has me really fired up and jazzed up and hopeful about today, the energy was just infectious. even out in the green room here the energy is awesome. but i am really hopeful because the politicians aren't the power. the people are the power. and we saw that on display today. and i think that, you know, just listening to these young folks talk about their movement that they're creating, it is inclusive. it compassionate. this issue is not one that's about any single group. it's actually about us all collectively and the diversity that was on display, the many voices raised up, i thought that was exactly who we want to be as a nation and where we're going and that's the power. i think that will demonstrate and play out in our politics.
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it makes me hopeful these are the people who are leading us right now and we have so much to learn from them. i'm certainly inspired. >> you know that one of the reasons this is a tough issue is people tend to respond a lot more intensely to having something taken away. so the people who care deeply their guns are the ones to tend to get upset either because they think it will affect them or they are wrongly told that because of these groups, a lot of them affect a small subset responsible for so much damage. what do you think about the politics of that, knowing how hard that's been, specifically for democrats? a lot of democrats felt they lost seats in the '94 race after the assault weapons ban? >> we're decades away from that. i think we're a different america. this idea that we don't want something taken from us. so many young people's lives
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have been taken from us and they are so much more profound and meaningful than somebody as gun that i don't even think the two go hand in hand. let's be real. the nra spend a ton of money. i love the labels people were wearing today, marco rubio, calling him out for the fact that he's taken over $3.3 million by the nra. if you divide that by the number of students in the state of fla florida, technically the value is $1.05 per student, right? the fact that marco rubio doesn't really value students is real. we have to talk about those lives, those lives matter. they can't be taken away from us. forget the guns. >> thank you to each of you. we have a bit more on some of what you just mentioned later in the hour. i also want to share something from a speech from the granddaughter of dr. martin luther king jr.
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>> we're also going to look at how the parkland generation is using social media to galvanize and organize and a woman who received backlash for destroying her own gun. all that next. you won't find th. i'll take you there. take this left. if you listen real hard you can hear the whales. oop. you hear that? (vo) our subaru outback lets us see the world. sometimes in ways we never imagined. (avo) get 0% apr financing on
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welcome to the revolution. [ cheers and applause ] it is a powerful and peaceful one because it is of, by and for the young people of this country. americans are being attacked in churches, night clubs, movie theaters and on the streets, but we the people can fix this. >> one big feature of this particular event today that was different than many in the past was social media. it stitched together the march in washington and many events as we were just discussing around the country and the world, starting with the first moments of the tragic shooting at marjory stoneman douglas high school, which themselves were shared on social media. i want to warn you before we play this, although it's part of the reality, but it also may be
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distressing. [ gunshot ] >> my god. >> that was social media showing what was happening. since then many students have parkland, florida have made their voices heard pro actively and they've used social media to call people out, to criticize what they want to change and to organize each other under hash tags like never again. that is part of what led up to today's event organized by those same students. many took the opportunity today to talk to their fellow classmates about being voters. >> at some point we have to stop and realize enough is enough! we are here because our voices matter. we are here because we know we can make a change. we've already seen what we can do. our voices do matter. march, rally and register to vote. never let anybody tell you what you can or can't do. we are the change we wish to see in the world. we are the future.
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enough is enough! >> a colleague of mine who has been looking at so long media not only as content but also as part of democracy, as part of civic organizer is nbc's savannah sellers and she was right by many people's sides as she took it in today. >> we were there the first time they saw the stage and them just saying i can't believe my school made something this big. other students are coming up to them telling them thank you for starting this, i'm 17, you're 17, the same age at me and you're my role model now. savannah joins me. thanks for being here. >> absolutely. thanks for having me. >> a long day. one of the things that we saw today that you've been looking at up close is what happens online doesn't always stay online, it goes off line. talk to us about how these communications and this organizing online helped build what looked like bigger events. >> absolutely.
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so from the first moment of that video you just played when the shooting was taking place, i've been down in parkland a couple times and talking to kids about stuff like that. they just said it was my first reaction, i took my phone out and snapchatted it because i've done it a thousand times. that's what this age does. they're using those same tools they're so used to using to communicate with their friends to communicate about something like this. as these kids gain traction, emma gonzalez with millions of twitter signs now. how many signs did you see with emma gonzalez's face on there? kids are being so inspired by kids that look like them because they're their age. there are little girl as young as 6 years old saying she inspired them. they're 6. after i was walking out of the march, this sounds like i was making it up, it was too perfect. there were little girls on bicycles saying "i met emma
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gonzalez today." they want to rally around kid that look just like them and these are kid that have platforms of literally millions at a time when they're coming of voting age. >> i want to talk about david, very well spoken obviously. let's take a listen. >> for the first time voters show up 18% of time in mid-term elections. not anymore. and to thol politic those polit support the nra that allow them to threaten our future, you say get your resumé's ready. >> some my question the more we put on these students and they start to pick up the mannerisms, you come into the studio often enough, put on make-up often
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enough, it could happen to anyone. they pick up some of the ticks and habits of older professional organizers, is the movement be professionalized and how did you see the folks balancing the many roles they're being asked to play about something that's so near and dear to them, they lost so many of their fellow students. >> that's an interesting question. i've run the gamut of knowing the kids, i have a show on snapchat as well as kids in the classrooms who haven't been all over doing speeches and stuff like that. i this it's a balancing act. i will say david speaks now like he could be a politician right now. i think that a couple things. i think that, you know, if you agree with these kids, they're 17 and 18 years old, i don't even want to call them kids because what they're doing is so
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powerful. they're 17 and 18 years old and they're your heros. if you disagree with them, i heard a lot today there's a possibility that you're scared of them and that either way is power. and i talked to a bunch of people out there volunteering to get kids, young people who are about to be 18, about to be 18, encouraging them to register to vote. i asked did you get a lot to register? we did but more surprising was how many people we went up to and they said we already have registered because of this. >> and it's fine, that's the process. you figure what grows out of what has moved a lot of people today, a very big gathering led by what are untraditional or novice, in the best sense of the word, novice activists. donald trump was in florida
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today. he went quiet as hundreds of thousands marched around the country. >> the president is irrelevant. he's just going to do what the nra tells them to do. but these young people standing up, registering to vote and voting, this should be the ultimate bipartisan issue. there's nothing republican or democratic about reducing gun violence and letting kids have their childhoods. >> and if there is no supreme court stated right to assault-style weapons, why do you hear that argument so much? i have a special guest, a woman who posted her own video destroying her own a.r.-15 when we continue. >> we lost a president, president kennedy. we lost a leader by the name of martin luther king jr. because of gun violence.
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told him i wand this gun out of my house. and he agreed with me. and then we saw emma gonzalez's speech and we realized we didn't want this gun in anybody else's house either. so today we're going to destroy it. >> you don't see that every day. the woman in that video is named karen mallard. she's a democrat, which is reminder that democratic households have these kind of weapons. she's also a congressional candidate from virginia and she's also my guest here after this big in d.c. thanks for being here. >> thank you so much for having me. >> first question, i got to hit you right out the gate, was that a stunt because you're running for office or did that come from a deeper place? >> that came from the children that came out, emma gonzalez and the other children who were standing up and speaking out about trying to save their lives. and then people were criticizing them, they were saying they were actors and they were going after
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them on social media. and i'm like you're not going to do that to students. i'm going to stand up for these students and i want them to continue fighting. would want them to give up because they're being attacked. i wanted them to know they were being heard. i didn't want this gun in my house anymore and i showed my husband emma's speech and he agreed. >> you should him the video of the speech online? >> and how impassioned he was. he's like okay being you want to destroy it, all right. and he filmed me doing it. >> why did he want an ar-15 in the first place? >> he enjoys shooting with his brother and his friends. it's just a pastime and it's something they do. >> so he keeps the ar-15 at the house, goes and shoots at the range and comes back and locks it up? >> yes, we have a gun safe.
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>> and how many other guns do you have in the house? >> we have to other handguns. >> so for him as a gun owner, sounds like you guys still have the other guns? >> yes, we have handguns. >> so he's still down with the guns. >> what did you drop on a gun like that? >> i think it was like $700. >> so did he want to resell it? i said no, no, no, i don't want it in anybody else's house. >> you didn't want that ar-15 going back out on the market. >> here's the thing. i'm an elementary school teacher. i've been teaching 30 years. and after sandy hook i had given up all hook that anything would ever be done. i mean, those precious babies were killed and i didn't think there would be any kind of gun reform or anything. and then those students spoke out and they were so brave after
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what they went through. it was so horrific, just going through that gun violence and the shooting and then they stood up and speaking truth to power and brave. so i just wanted to do something. and i had -- it's such a huge problem, but i can do one thing. i can take this one gun out of commission and destroy one gun. >> did you ever shoot the ar back when you had it? >> no, i never shot the ar. >> did he tell but shooting it? >> it just his friends, they have fun shooting them, they enjoy shooting them. >> i shot one on a range once and, i mean, you cannot believe the amount of deadly force inside that thing. and then i guess it depends on your reaction. i was working on a story about guns and gun control. we shot it and i just thought that's an awful lot of force for
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anyone to just have in their hands at any time. >> yeah. he didn't ask me about it. he bought it and brought it home and i was not happy about it. we argued about it quite a bit. >> but that's what happens, right? you have family discussions about things. >> yes, you do. >> when you talk to voters about this, is this going to be your number one issue is gun control or one among many? >> it's one among many, my main one as an educator for 30 years is public education. that was my catalyst to run for office when betsy devos was confirmed as secretary of education. she's completely unqualified to oversee the education of millions of children. >> you're going off topic here but you have an interesting story. is it weird or ironic to you she's the secretary of education but she seems -- i try to say thing diplomatically but she seems uninformed about a lot of things? >> that's very diplomatic. she's completely unqualified to
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oversee the education of millions of children. she and trump are trying to do away with public education and i can't stand by and watch it happen. >> you're at an intersection here, we're at schools and students and talking about guns and who should have them. your campaign seems wrapped up in both these issues. >> and we should not arm teachers with children. we need to arm them with what we need to teach our children. >> straight ahead, florida senator marco rubio under more pressure about his close ties from the nra and he's hearing about it from a student. and another student is moving the nation to tears with silence. we'll explain what we come back in 90 seconds. >> one life is worth more all the guns in america. this is not a red versus bl
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blue issue. this is a morals issue. >> we are not for bread crumbs, we are here to change. we are here to lead. >> it's time to stop judging you or my brothers that look like me that could from poverty or anybody else. it's time for america to know that every day shootings are every day problems. >> we cannot keep america great if we cannot keep america safe. 96 deaths by firearm every day is not what i would call great! nick was bortoddlers won'.
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to take the nra money? he tweeted protest is a good way to make a point today but making a change will require both side to find common ground. >> i'm going to start off by putting this price tag right here as reminder for you guys, to know how much marco rubio took for every student's life in florida. >> i'm joined by rick tyler, msnbc analyst and let's get to it. why shouldn't there be a federal ban on these assault-style weapons that most experts say are primarily offensive weapons mean they're constructed in a way and draw be on the history of war in a way that are designed to do what we see them down, which is kill large numbers of people on offense, not defensive weapons for the
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home or hunting? >> guns are unsafe, they're dangerous if they're not used properly or used in a way that's responsible. i used how to shoot, ari, when i was 9 years old by the ymca, which was an nra program. i wish the nra would focus on safety -- >> do you know what you would focus on? >> on the question. >> the first thing you said is what made people so frustrated about this debate. if your position is defensible, defend it. the ar-15 style assault weapon. speak to those. >> what is an assault weapon? >> you go. >> i don't know. an assault weapon seems to be an ugly military style weapon but it doesn't shoot any differently than the gun i have, which is a deer rifle or it can be a hunting rifle. >> but why is it so important? -- why is it important for you to make sure they're available? many guns are available. you said you shot first when you
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were 9? >> 9 years old. >> i shot first when i was about 11. so much you got me beat by two years if we want to play that debate but why the assault style weapons? >> it doesn't fundamentally shoot any differently than my rifle that looks like an order hunting rifle. the trigger mechanism is the same, it doesn't shoot harder, doesn't go any faster. >> that's a critique of the nature of the rules but why do you want to make sure these are out in the market? >> people use them for target practice and for self-defense. people would say how many -- how many bullets do i need to defend myself? and in some states would say you can only is nine. in other states you can have 30. >> erin? >> i just can't believe any of this. i didn't shoot for the first time until i was 30 and i was scared out of my mind, sweaty palms, the whole thing.
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you know, and i shot with a very easy gun. you're talking about fun. do you have to have all of that to have fun? >> shooting is fun. i mean, look, weapons are dangerous in the wrong hands but weapons should be treated with respect, life should be treated as respect. that's what i grew up in. we -- >> are you comfortable with the ban on grenades? >> yeah. yeah. and we've -- >> so you -- >> the question is not whether anything is going to be banned. the question is the ar-15, whether the countervailing positive outweigh what is we're seeing them do and all i'm hearing you talk about is how the trigger works. >> but the ar-15 is an ugly looking gun who killed a lot of people but most people who die of firearm violence -- >> this is what made you good when you worked for ted cruz.
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i say a frame, you flip the phrase. you're good at that. the issue is the value of this gun. you want to talk about whether there's other things in the world? yeah, traffic accidents take a lot of lives. you're reframing away. john allen? >> well, crack cocaine is fun. it doesn't necessarily mean it should be available to everyone. >> and it will kill you. >> pause right there. what you just said, one of those things applies to the ar-15s, it does kill you. the other doesn't, it is legal. >> jonathan and then rick. >> i'm not making an argument one way or the other here, i'm saying the argument that it's fun doesn't necessarily mean it should be legal. i think we've seen something really important today and over the course of the last few weeks and i know people are deeply frustrated on the left that there wasn't more done legislatively in this omnibus legislation that would be passed -- >> what would be done? >> you could ban certain types of weapons.
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>> so some guns shoot like the ar-15, there are many other guns that shoot as well as -- >> you can limit the clip capacity. >> when gabby giffords got shot in the head, a member of congress, when he shot her, he had to stop to reload. >> we're talking about whether the value of the ar-15 is so positive and so good that it outweigh what is we're seeing across the country. erin? i want to make sure everyone gets a turned. >> obviously they should be banned. >> they were banned in 1994. do you know how many were turned in? zero. zero! >> you want to do this? he is like a lawyer's lawyer. >> be careful, you don't want to end up like this. senator finestein negotiated with the gun lobby to have a
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rule that did not do any legislation. now you as a gun advocate are going to -- >> i'm not a gun advocate. >> you're on tv tonight, you get to choose what you say. >> advocating for second amendment. >> the supreme court has never ruled that the second amendment applies to ar-15. you're here as a policy choice, which is your right. i respect you, we've worked together, i've talked to you. you're here as gun advocate of the ar-15. the question is what the value is of that versus what we've seen and everyone marched on today which is a concern this is one of the guns being used to kill children. you and then erin. >> and there are other guns used to kill people illegally. the thing is most of the gun violence in the united states occurs in very small areas of the country. you know where they mostly occur? is in places that they're banned. they're banned in chicago, in l.a. if you look at a number of
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counties where most of the violence occurs -- >> you understand viewers watching you right now are going to notice that you won't defend the ar-15. >> i'm going to defend the ar-15. i won't defend a fully automatic weapon that's been banned since 1984. >> what do you think should actually be done? how do we take away the gun violence? after the vegas shooting, chris christie said, look, this is a really tough issue and there's nothing we can do. how can you call yourself a public servant and say we can't do anything? >> i don't have a panacea to take this away. i don't want to be the skunk of the picnic, i think what the kids did is very important. that's the way a democracy work ps. >> i don't think you're a skunk. you have your opinion. >> they haven't showed up en
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masse and they haven't done that. >> what you said is so key. where was chris christie way back when? where have all the lawmakers been? after columbine -- we're hearing president trump and marco rubio trying to sound like gun control advocates. there is a change going on here. have you seen black, white, brown, male, female, gay, straight from all regions of this country affected by this issue, you see them mashirching washington, the traditional way to bring attention to an issue. scores and hundreds of thousands of people, there is something very different about this time. >> i don't disagree with that. there are 3 to 5 million ar-15s in $ worlthe world right now. there are millions of people like me who own firearms who
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don't feel like we're the bad guy. >> sewure. >> and there are other people -- i think there are a lot of people who spoke today who would like to take everyone's gun away, others don't want to take everyone's gun away. when i was in high school, you could go to the parking lot, there were guns at school, they were all in the pickup truck on the gun rack and nobody shot each other. >> what are you say? >> i'm saying someone needs to ask the question why are kids shooting each other? >> some of them are kids and some of them are adults coming in and shooting. >>. >> there were guns in parking lots in my high school and nobody shot anybody. >> there was a package of gun laws passed, through gun laws and it made a discernible difference in what has happened in colorado. >> there's no place on the
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planet you can point to where gun laws have actually reduced the murder rate. in fact, people talk about england or australia. australia has a three times the homicide rate that we do because they're such a smaller country. in england when they put the gun law in, the murder rate actually went up. it did go down in 2010 but it went down because they started hiring more police officers. but, no, there's no place where gun laws -- 98% of the country has the most guns and that's not where the crime is occurring. it's occurring in the small cities that have illegal guns and they have gun control laws. >> we wanted to include a wide range of view and that's why we did. i don't mean this to sound harsh but a lot of time has been spent discussing everything but one of the big issues on the table today, which is this gun that keeps being used to kill these children -- >> because they'll go after the next guns and the next guns and
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the next guns. >> and it's the people in the inner city that need the protection. i think they're being discriminated against. they should be able to defend themselves with their own weapons. we have to take a break. we went wrong. we'll be right back.
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this new student movement comes as there is support for tougher gun laws soaring, you think about the conversation we were just debating. we can show you where a lot of americans are on it, 69% of americans say they want tougher gun laws. up 18 points in the last 18 months. 50% of gun owners and 50% of republicans say they favor at least some form of tightening gun control laws. when we come back, the defining moment today. and a powerful reaction in washington. mouth breather. allergies?
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if you're catching up on what happened in washington today. there's a moment many are saying defined this gathering. it was a speech given by emma gonzalez. a student from the high school that survived this shooting in february. she's become one of the key faces of this movement. and she made this speech today. >> six minutes and about 20 seconds. in a little over six minutes, 17 of our friends were taken from us. 15 were injured and everyone -- absolutely everyone in the douglas community was forever altered. everyone who was there understands. everyone who has been touched by the cold grip of gun violence understands. for us, long tearful chaotic hours in the scorching afternoon sun were spent not knowing. six minutes and 20 seconds with an ar-15 and my friend carmen would never complain to me about
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piano practice. aaron would never call kyra miss sunshine. alex would never walk into school with his brother ryan. scott would never joke around with cameron at camp. helena ramsey would never hang out after school with max. gina would never wave to her friend liam at lunch. joaquin would never play basketball with sam or dillon. elena patty would never, chris hickson would never. luke hoyer would never. march keen would never. peter huang would never. meadow pollack would never. >> she would go on to hold that
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silence, that moment for about four minutes longer. and then she ended with this. since the time that i came out here it has been 6:20. the shooter has ceased shooting and will soon abandon his rifle, blend in with the students as they escape and walk flee for an hour before arrest. fight for your lives before its someone else's job. >> there's a lot that everyone's been taking in in this movement. in this period in american politics. what she did made immediate waves add we reflect on everything today. we're going to show you some of the reactions from people on our air. >> emma gonzalez spoke with the power and authority of a few of our preachers and presidents. only the best of them.
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she spoke with a maher and authority that exceeds most of the lawmakers. >> frankly it's wonderful to hear such well spoke n words frm these children. >> that is some of what we heard, and there was much more online. i'm ari mel better, you can always find me at 6:00 p.m. eastern on the beat. thank you for watching. good evening, i'm chris matthews again in washington. summoned by anger and frustration about gun violen

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