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only the best of them. she spoke with a maher and authority that exceeds most of the lawmakers. >> frankly it's wonderful to hear such well spoke n words frm these children. >> that is some of what we heard, and there was much more online. i'm ari mel better, you can always find me at 6:00 p.m. eastern on the beat. thank you for watching. good evening, i'm chris matthews again in washington. summoned by anger and frustration about gun violence
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in america. hundreds of thousands of teenagers and their supporters rallied through the streets of atlanta, dallas, los angeles, new york and washington, d.c.. there are more than 800 events scheduled around the globe today. 800. it was an estimated 800,000 people in the shadow of the capitol, to press for gun control from a congress and a president who were absent. >> i am here for every person that was changed by gun violence. >> i'm here for every african-american child's stories who don't make the front page of the national newspaper. these stories don't lead on the evening news. >> for me i would like to not worry about dying, and focus on science and math and playing with my friends.
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>> i have a dream that enough is enough. and that this should be a gun free world periods. >> we all have a purpose and we all want what? >> fight for your lives before it's someone else's job. >> the fight begins today, and it will not end until we get what we need. thank you. >> no matter what they tell you, tomorrow there will be more of us telling the story of tonight. >> the overarching message today is not an option. >> to the leaders, skeptics and cynics who told us to sit down and stay silent. wait your turn, welcome to the revolution. >> stand for us or beware, the
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voters are coming. >> one of the most emotional speeches was by a washington, d.c., high school senior whose twin brother was shot and killed by a robber this past september. >> i'm here to represent the hundreds and hundreds of thousands of students who live in every day -- live in constant paranoia and fear on their way to and from school. at this moment, please raise your hand if you have been affected by gun violence to honor the ones you have lost. today i raise my hand in honor of my twin brother. my name is zion kelly, and just like all of you, i have had enough. president trump let the day pass without issuing a statement. barack obama weighed in and tweeted, michelle and i are so inspired by all the young people
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who made today's marches happen. keep at it, you're leading us forward. nothing can stand in the way of millions of voices calling for change. that's former president barack obama and michelle obama. the student led rallies represent a watershed moment. for more, i'm joined bigaddy schwartz who has been covering the march for our lives here in d.c. gadi, thank you. what did you see today out there on the -- around the mall? >> just listening to the replay of all those powerful speeches. what was striking to me is seeing the kids, emma gonzalez an 11-year-old, a 13-year-old moving a crowd of 800,000. and knowing that their voices could be heard too. so after the rally, we had a conversation with? kids from newtown connecticut, they were talking to us about
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what is going to happen going-forward. what's making this march different? what are we going to see change? they said, the biggest change is that they have learned. they know what to do now. one girl describing growing up after sandy hook, and remembering seeing all the teddy bears and tv cameras and feeling overwhelmed and mourning, and her mother just pulling over and breaking down and crying. and after that, more school shootings, more school shootings. at least one of those school shootings, these kids have been learning how things work. they know how to focus the message with the media, they know how to defend themselves against people online, spreading conspiracy theorys, trolls, they also know how to organize on social media. that's some of what we saw here today. coming here, though, there's still the skeptics on the way over here on the plane. i was talking to a guy. he said, you are going to the kids march. yeah, this is the kids march, and we are the generation that's going to change everything. if it doesn't change now, we are
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going to vote people out and we will change it when we are old enough to vote. that's a striking conversation to have, were in middle school. it's going to be very interesting to see what happens when this generation that's grown up with active shootings and lockdowns actually starts going to the polls. >> you know, organizations are moved by leaders not just rank and file. i i think saw some future politicians out there today. i mean, people who want to lead. what did you think of that? a lot of spokespeople out there that look like they want to play that role in their adult lives. your thoughts on that. >> yeah, from the halls of high schools to the halls of congress, it's not too far of a march when you have millions of people behind you. that's what we saw all across the country today. chris? >> gadi schwartz, who was out there all day today with the people. for more on what it was like to be within of these students, i'm
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joined by danielle, a senior in high school in maryland. good show. i mean, it was really one of those days in washington. were you surprised at the way this thing has expanded and gone exponential. 800 events today around the world because of what your school started. >> i am not only excited and happy, but i am proud of what my school and everyone across the nation has done. this is just a starting point. and it will keep going and personally i will make sure it keeps going. >> are you committed -- i hate to do this, it's so political. the gun rights lobby succeeds not just because it has money, and it spends the money, to influence politicians, but because it has voters who will vote on one issue and only one. the second amendment as they see it. which is total gun rights. >> yeah. >> can you think of yourself as
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you pass into your 20s and 30s and become a mature voter, keeping that kind of laser focus on gun safety issues? >> i mean, of course, because this is something that can happen anywhere. it doesn't matter what -- where you come from, rich or poor. it's something that needs to be done. i mean, these assault weapons, weapons of war serve no purpose in a civilian society. if it doesn't get done now. it will get done in the future. if it doesn't get done in the future, it will get done now. >> what got to you today out there? >> everything about it, seeing how massive that crowd was, hearing the speakers like delaney who you had on here last night. the country owes the kids from marjory stoneman douglas a great debt for doing what they're doing and standing up for this. i don't think if i were in their shoes i would be able to hold myself together to do something like this. i come at this as an organizer who hasn't been personally
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affected. i've seen what happened to them and don't want it to happen. i'm willing to stand with them. and fight for the change we need in this country. >> what was different about today than before? >> there's a feeling -- whenever there was a change in speakers, everyone would chant vote them out. and vote them out means vote the politicians owned by the nra who are obstructing the change that's needed and are making us so unsafe in our country and in our schools and nightclubs and whatever else. >> the youngest of the speakers was an 11-year-old of alexandria virginia who spoke eloquently about why the young people in the never again moment should be taken seriously. here she is. >> people have said that i am too young to have these thoughts on my own. people have said that i'm a tool of some nameless adult. it's not true.
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[ cheers and applause ] >> my friends and i might still be 11. and we might still be in elementary school, but we know. we know life isn't equal for everyone. and we know what is right and wro wrong. we also know that we stand in the shadow of the capitol, and we know that we have seven short years until we too have the right to vote. >> i have to tell you when i was in school, i was so afraid of public speaking. the idea of these kids, 11 is a kid -- would go out in front of a million people and do it with such spirit and such -- what is it? what do you call it -- guts, to just -- she was performing, making a point. >> i mean -- >> angelina? >> i mean, personally i used to be shy and very -- i kept to myself, and after this happened i had to grow up very quick. speaking to so much media and other people who went through
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the same tragedy i did, i learned my social skills. and i've done speeches since the shooting, and -- i mean, we have to know that everyone's voice matters, and it doesn't -- you should break out of your shell, and that's what i did, because i'm doing something that i'm passionate about, and that it's something that everyone across the nation needs, the safety in schools. >> you've heard that old expression, i never thought it would happen to me. it happens all the time. people read about murders, holdups, they read about plane crashes or whatever, train crashes, whatever. you probably heard a lot about other school shootings before it hit home. >> yep, and then it hits home and it's something you never prepare for. it's unexplainable. >> what do you think you're going to do as a voter when a bill comes -- when you find out that a member of congress -- deutsch is probably your congressman, he's going to be
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voting the right things. you have a senate race coming up in your state this fall. what if someone takes the pro gun position. >> they're not going to be voted in. >> if you are taking a stance against our right to live over -- so you can own a gun, i don't think you have a place in our law making system any more. that's not the way this country feels any more, and you're going to have to step aside and -- >> how do we get the supreme court to look at it that way. the supreme court seems to taken an absolutist position to own a gun. they ignore the militia part. you know what i'm talking about? >> under the second amendment these weapons of war are not guaranteed to be armed. >> why not bazookas, why not tanks. it's arms. how about an airplane that drops bombs. i want an airplane that drops bombs. i don't mean to make white of
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when we sit here and think about how hard it is to vote, push the green button, the red button. i just remember this isn't hard. putting your kid in the ground is hard. this is a button. >> that was florida state representative jared muskowitz. you saw him before the florida house passed legislation. a democrat whose district
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includes parkland. we're all kind of impressed by the quickness with which the governor down there, rick scott -- i'm not a big fan of his, but he moved on raising the age to 21 for buying any firearm. much faster than people in d.c. or paul ryan. >> mitch mcconnell and paul ryan didn't go to 17 funerals about the governor went to the school. he saw bullet holes in the windows, saw blood, he looked down the hallway, people were shot up against the wall. and then he went to funerals. he was getting in the car driving past fun will rahs to go to different funerals. i'd like to think that had a tremendous impact on him. you know, there are -- sometimes there are events in your life that move you out of your political corner, i think this is one of them. >> is florida like pennsylvania, it has that culture of gun owner, the deer hunter thing. >> we have that kind of in the panhand panhandle, but the nra at the end of the day, has made florida
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the petrie dish to experiment with everything they've come up with. we have one of the strongest nra lobbyists in the state. she started stand your ground stuff, open carry, concealed weapons permit. this all started in florida. >> are you the opposite number? are you seen as the person that can take her on? >> there's me and others, i've been taking on marion hammer, if republicans don't let your bill get heard on the floor, if they don't let your amendment come up in committee, i can't take anybody on. that's why what happened here, chris, is that finally it was a bipartisan movement. i see these kids, i see these parents, and there's no doubt that unfortunately, i think washington is done. they've done this stop school safety act or whatever the poll tested word they want to call, that does a lot of nothing. i think they're done, but i will tell you what i've been telling these kids and these parents, is that this -- democrats can't
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solve this alone. they know they need republicans. >> you need 60 votes in the senate. >> they know it. >> marco rubio who represents the parkland students put out a statement commending the marchers for exercising their first amendment rights. i do not agree with all of the solutions they propose, i respect their views and recognize many americans support certain gun rights. is he ham strung by the fact that he wants to go national? >> of course. >> is he still afraid of the nra outside of the state? >> the answer is yes. he could have been there today, where was he? the president got on a helicopter, weng the out of town, he's playing another round of golf, something he criticized the former president on. i noticed the president didn't tweet today. somebody must have taken his phone away from him, but there's nobody left, he fired everyone in the administration. >> trump was very wishy washy, and a little dodgy on this, he came out right in that meeting that we're looking at now, you
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see dianne feinstein, that very day with cornen on his right and feinstein on his left, he had toomey across the table from him. he was talking gun safety, he was going to raise the age to 21. he meets with the nra, gone. nothing but this -- crumbs he threw today. >> the funny thing is, he was talking gun control, dianne feinstein's got a smile on her face, she's talking about her bill. it's the tuesday trump versus the thursday trump. we were on to aluminum and steel. we were talking tariffs. >> what do they say in the room, when they put the muscle to these guys. >> they remind him who got him where he was. they gave him $50 million, they remind him that there are folks out there that would love to see a primary, and the nra members are one of the last folks that are with him. those are the immigration folks, the nra folks, the alex jones folks.
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>> day in and day out our kids are getting shot. we are scolded because we are not us. it's as if we need permission for our friends not to die. when do we say enough is enough? >> this whole day, what i love about it is the purity of it, it's about one thing. safety for our kids in school. most of the people came with that one message. >> celebrities lent their support too. some taking to the streets, others the stage. ♪ >> i stand for peace, love and women's rights. >> at the same time, more than 800 sister rallies are happening in every state and on every
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continent except antarctica, with one purpose, put politicians on notice. >> marchers dressed in all white and wore veils to commemorate the shooting victims. in atlanta they packed the roadways. and in parkland florida, protesters chanted in unison. >> enough is enough. >> powerful moments and peace at voices left many feeling inspired. >> just seeing everyone band together toward this issue is pretty remarkable. we need to work and continue working together in order for a change to be made. i'm motivated to keep going. >> people have said that i am too young to have these thoughts on my own. people have said that i'm a tool of some nameless adult. it's not true. >> for all the words spoken today, it may have been silence from parkland shooting survivor emma gonzalez that resonated
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most. [ crowd chanting never again ] >> up next, the bulk of americans out there who weren't there today, when it comes to gun control. and how much will get done given resistance from the nra. montel williams will join us after this break. you're watching hardball, a special edition.nsul trail? you won't find that on a map. i'll take you there. take this left. if you listen real hard you can hear the whales. oop. you hear that? (vo) our subaru outback lets us see the world. sometimes in ways we never imagined. (avo) get 0% apr financing on all-new 2018 subaru outback models. now through april 2nd.
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because the nra remained mostly silent today and wields a tremendous amount of power. they didn't see the secret power, the money power. today the students said enough. >> when politicians send their thoughts and prayers with no action, we say no more. and to those politicians supported by the nra that allow the continued slaughter of our children and our future, i say get your resumes ready. >> for now i'm joined my montel williams and nicole hockly founder and managing director of sandy hook promise. she lost her 6-year-old son dillon during the tragedy at sandy hook elementary. i want to start with nicole. >> you know, i've been following politics all my life. and i don't see politicians defeated because they don't push for gun control. i've seen them being beaten for being for gun control and
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safety. these young people say they're in going to knock off these politicians, get rid of them politically if they don't do what they say they're going to do. i'm going into that voting booth and voting on gun safety. i don't want to hear about that today, i'm going to vote on gun safety. that's a hard thing to get people to do. >> it is a hard thing to get people to do. but if you are single minded and laser focused on what you want to achieve, it's completely possible. these kids are of voter age or coming into voter age they are going to have their voices heard. >> is it broad now or is it just the people who showed up today? can we imagine 800,000 there today? usually in your head you go about 10 times that many people are thinking like this. how do you do that? >> when i started five years ago, i think the majority of the americans were not engaged in this issue, which is why
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background checks failed in april 2013. this momentum has been growing for the last five years, with the younger people involved in it as well. it's creating this tide that's not going to go away. i think enough people are involved, the influential majority are involved now. >> people like you who -- my brother's one, gun owners believe in the second amendment. it's a philosophy, it's not just hunting and target shooting. the right to own guns in case the government comes after you, you know the whole thing. >> sure. >> they're not killers, they're not murderers, they're not criminals in anyway, they don't even break the laws of the guns, they obey the laws that are there. and yet other people, mentally defwisht people, kids that don't fit in, they use those gun laws for bad. this is the weird disconnect. it isn't like criminals vote for gun opportunities. good people vote to keep the
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guns in the hands of people that shouldn't have them. >> the most amazing thing i think i've seen in my soon to be 62 years on this planet happened for the second time today. i saw this happen early in the '60s, if we remember, we look back at the '60s and think, it was martin luther king, a bunch of young people who were running the civil rights change in america. no, the people that were beaten on those bridges and beaten on the streets. were young people. >> kids. >> for democracy, i think this was the most magnificent thing i've seen, this is why this is going to be different. it's going to be different beginning today, and it's going to be different for now, the future of america. listen to me, these kids are savvy enough. lock at the screen, there were probably 2, 3 million across the country who came out and said, enough is enough. we have to start to remember, you think that in the last 10 years there's been real heavy money that's influenced us? these are all voting aged kids who are now thinking about something, they saw today that
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they stopped the world. and they know that they can get this done. i'm so impressed. >> i am too. >> they came ready. they came with numbers. 77% of people like me and your brother who are gun owners, let's get this straight, i am 15 guns, i'll tell you the truth. i've been too busy i haven't shot any of them in years. they're locked up in a safe. one of which is ar-15. >> why do you like the ar-15. >> i was trained and shot in the military. >> you shoot old cars? >> sometimes i'll shoot a can, a rock. my wife asked me three days ago, really, honestly, why are you going to talk about this, why do you still have those guns? i said to her, because i have a right to own them, you have trained me on how to use them. >> if congress outlawed ar-15s,
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what would you say? >> i'd give mine back. a lot of people call themselves conservatives, republicans, justice scalia, they were happy, he was a gun owner, he shot, he went out and pheasant hunted. he also said in his opinion that gun ownership isn't unqualifiable. he stated that. >> he's the minority. >> but it doesn't matter. this is the leaving thought processor that we had in the supreme court that most conservatives agreed with. this man recognized that -- >> let's get back to nicole on this. i wanted to ask you about this. this whole right to bear arms, how do you feel about it? >> it's in the constitution, it's in the second amendment. it's perfectly fine. if it was -- something like the ar-15 was repealed, he would hand it in. he's ex-military, you're trained in how to do that. most civilians are not trained.
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the man who killed my son had access to this weapon without the training, without the respect. he just knew it as a killing machine, and a way to achieve his aims faster. >> let's talk about school shootings. it's one or two people usually. often times one, unhappy person. we know the profile. doesn't fit in, angry, goes back to the school where they went to reek revenge. how do you stop that from happens next month. how do you stop that syndrome from repeating itself again and again, angry student with gun, goes back and kills kids. >> can't we agree that if that angry kid went in to do some damage and he didn't have a semiautomatic weapon with -- >> how do we keep it out of his hands. >> that's why this new generation is going to rock our worlds like no tomorrow. they're going to change us. >> you have to keep that gun out of that kid's hands.
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president trump called for an arming and training of teachers, the idea was first made popular by the nra, where he gets his ideas from. here's what one student had to say about that idea today. >> if teachers start packing heat, are they going to arm our pastors, ministers and rabbis? are they going to arm the guy scanning tickets at the movie theater? are they going to arm the person wearing the mickey mouse costume at disney? this is what the nra wants and we will not stand for it. >> i think it means more gun sales, teachers will have to buy the guns. it's an economic assessment, follow the money. but some people think that's what's going on here. the nra wants to sell more guns. >> it's a ludicrous idea. schools are a place for community and education, they're not a place for teachers to be packing weapons. it's inappropriate. i don't think it's really going
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to make sense or happen. we need to around our teachers with knowledge, with prevention strategies, they know what's going on in their classrooms, how are they going to help these kids that are troubled before they ever pick up any sort of weapon to hurt themselves or others. >> i went to christian high school. the idea of arming these people -- a nun with a gun. >> crazy. >> there are nra people with children, right now over 77% of nra people in this country right now, who are gun owners believe that there should be universal background checks. 82% believe people on no fly lists should be off. >> the nra is not a democracy. >> those same people will vote. and when they vote, i guarantee you -- >> why don't they stop paying their dues. we heard the personal stories from those who had lost loved ones to gun violence. edna told us about her brother.
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>> it was a day like any other day, sunset going down off el central. you hear pops thinking they're fireworks. they weren't pops, you see the melonen on your brother's skin turn gray. ricardo was his name. can you all say it with me? >> ricardo! >> we also heard from mia middleton, who is a high school freshman was held up at a convenience store. here's her story. >> he comes toward me and i couldn't move. i couldn't breathe. i couldn't talk. i couldn't think. all i remember is seeing dark jeans coming toward me. he pulls out this silver pistol
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and points it in my face and said these words that to this day haunt me and give me nightmares. he said if you say anything, i will find you. and yet i'm still saying something today. [ cheers and applause ] >> well, there's two kinds, the mass shootings by these people with mental problems and then you have the day to day gang violence in chicago. and when i heard that statistic today, of 5,000 dead kids in chicago since 2006, 5,000 -- 16,000 wounded in shootings. these numbers are war casualties. that's the second city in the united states, it's chicago, it's a major wonderful, we love that city, when we visit it. the people that live there on the south side and other parts of that town are living in a war zone. >> shame on us as adults. >> 5,000 dead.
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>> shame on us that it's children that have to make us think this way. >> what i like nicole, they brought together two kinds of shootings, the hothead that comes in and shoots the kids he's mad at. and the gangland war that day. >> that's so true, what happened at sandy hook, what happened at parkland, they get a lot of media attention, because they're unexpected, they're in areas that you don't expect these things to happen. but again, i think one of the students at park land said it today, if we can use our voices from our experience to help prevent violence elsewhere for the killings that go on everywhere, that's our moral responsibility. >> god bless the people that put it together today. they put it together the right way. thank you, montel. you come on when i need you. unfortunately, i need you a lot. >> nicole, thank you. >> thank you. >> up next, i'm going to speak with two school librarians, one survived sandy hook.
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pencils, pens, paper and the money they need. they need that money to support their families and to support themselves before they can support the futures in those classrooms. >> welcome back to hardball. those were two of today's great speakers today. at the march for our lives, speaking out against the idea of arming teachers to keep gun violence down in schools. president trump just one week after the massacre in parkland did the same, watch him doing the nra line here. >> we have to harden our schools, not soften them up. a gun free zone to a killer or somebody that wants to be a killer, that's like going in for the ice cream, that's like here i am, take me. if they really have that aptitude, not everyone has an aptitude for a gun, if they have the aptitude, i think a concealed permit for having
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teachers -- and letting people know there are people in the building with a gun. you won't have -- you won't have these shootings, in my opinion. >> joining me right now, long time friends, both of whom shielded students during mass shootings. yvonne was the librarian at sandy hook. she barricaded 18 students in a supply closet. when a lone gunman opened fire in parkland florida, diana sheltered 50 students, hiding them in an equipment room. thank you so much for joining us. >> thank you. >> when you first heard this notion of guns in the hands of teachers, what did you think? >> we shook our heads and said that's ridiculous, how can that be. first of all, teachers are supposed to be teaching, that's what i went to school for, 20 years i've been doing that. and nowhere in that equation was there the thought of having to deal with a gun. and yvonne recently taught
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little ones and little ones around you with a gun -- >> i think people who propose that kind of idea have no concept of what it is like to be in a classroom, in a school with -- especially there's no possibility that teachers could be as adept at firing guns as law enforcement. i think that's the job of law enforcement. i don't think they want us to get in the way of that. i think it confuses the situation. at sandy hook school it took them a long time to figure out hot was actually happening and that was trained law enforcement. so can can you imagine if you have teachers running down the halls with guns and they're supposed to -- what? abandoned their students? i had fourth grade students with me. was i going to leave them and run down the hall and try to take out a shooter and have law
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enforcement entering? >> say skrou a classroom of 30 poi skz girls, 12 years old. and they knew the teacher had a gun. i'd by watching that pistol the whole time. i wouldn't get my cris off that bulge. >> it withed pee a big distraction. >> and the kids know some people have trouble with the stuff vee to help them with. so the kids can would think it's ridiculous as with well. it won't make them feel safe and we think it's ridiculous they want to add more guns to a problem. if that was going to solve the problem, we wouldn't be talking about this right now. if more guns was going to solve this issue. >> let's talk pout tabout the f that these kids have only lived in the life of columbine. like i did, we grew up hiding
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under our school desks because there's nuclear weapons. how do you teach teachers to deal with this kind of situation? we also have to recognize it could happen any moment, some 12th grader come can s roaring with with a gun because they're mad about how someone treated them the year before. how do you teach a teacher to deal with a situation like that? >> they've been working on it and certainly yvonne helped me after sandy hook because she shared her stories with me. >> so your adrenalin starts rushing. tell me -- how do you get teachers ready to deal, without a gun, to deal with with violence? >> we had practiced our lock down drills and that was the only thing that kept us ready for action because we had
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practiced. we had a plan. so there wasn't any panic. there was just moving and acting. and. >> all the doors lock. is that what happens? >> in our school it was to play in the lock down. and we physically had to go out and lock the doors and i couldn't lock one of the doors and my key didn't work on one of the doors and so we had to hide the kids and find a safe place to shelter them. i think yes, we have to practice lock down drills and that's really important. skrus like we practice fire drills. but the problem needs be taken care of at its source. not continuing to fig krr out how to provide defenses and how
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to practice against hiding so that we can can avoid these things. i thing we have to go at it from the source. >> and that is? >> vwe have to change our laws. that's what the students were crying out for today. that's why we came for the march. >> i can't think of a better day. >> it was the best. >> to see people really practice democracy. thank you both for hot you do. w. . . . whoooo.
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. well, that does it for this special edition of "hardball." i hope we can say "hot a difference day made." coming up a special edition of "the last word." with lawrence o'donnell. >> help us by screaming as loud as you can can that we're tired of being forced under the rug. we're tired of seeing the faces off victims on screens removed from us too fast to understand why and how it happens. >> i need each and everyone of you to continue to fight along side us because hearts can cannot pump without blood and i don't want your community to join the gastly inner circle
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that my community is now a part of. >> when they send thoughts and prayers with no action, we say no more. and to those politicians supported by the nra, i say get your resumes ready. fl the people can demand a law banning the sale of assault weapons. people demand we prohibit the sale of high capacity magazines, universal background check cans. stand for us or beware. the voters are come canning. >> we would not need clear backpacks and more weapons in our streets if there weren't weapons of war in the hands of civilians sdplp this needs to change. we've been fighting for this way too long and nothing has changed. and we need change now. >> when will we as a nation understand that nonviolence is a way of life for curages people?
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>> if we march again and 227 days from now, we will make this a turning point for our country and we the new diverse, conclusive compassionate base will lead this country to righteousness. good evening. this is a special saturday night eeitdition of kaet the last word from washington d.c. where 800,000 people gathered to mourn the loss of people kill canned by gun violence and mass murders to protest gun violence, call for new gun laws and warn law makerers that if they don't listen, these people are ready eto vote them out. we saw things on the stage here in washington today that we have
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