>> philip thank you so much. a good day to all of you here on a sat. i'm richard louie at msnbc headquarters in new york city. attack on amazon. president trump once again lashing out at the e-commerce giant blaming it for scamming the post office out of billions. is the post office really losing out? we will break that down. risky rental. the head had of the epa in hot water for his condo rental from lobbyists just the latest of several controversies involving trump officials. we will go live on the ground as residents demand justice. one day after an autopsy rises new questions about the night stephon clark was killed by police. we start with another member of president trump's cabinet facing new questions over spending decisions. the head of the environmental protection agency, scott pruett is under scrutiny for a deal he got for housing on capitol hill. he reportedly paid just $50 for

a capitol hill condo for the wife of a lobbyist of big oil companies. he paid that amount six months last year on nights he was in washington. the epa saying they found it was not a gift and was quote consistent with federal ethics regulations. we want to break this down with nbc's jeff bennett who is traveling with the president in florida. jeff, how are the officials in the white house viewing this allegation against scott pruett. >> reporter: people close to the president say he doesn't like these sorts of unforced errors. he doesn't appreciate it when cabinet officials generate negative headlines for the administration. with scott pruett, it's not just the question about his apartment lease. he is under investigation for his expenses and using his 247 security detail for personal trips including a vacation to disneyland. that said, people familiar with the president's thinking says

scott pruett has more leeway than did the ousted veterans affairs secretary david shulkin in part because pruett is considered to be one of the most effective members of the trump cabinet. he has overseen the roleback of a swath of obama era protections and regulations and messaged that to conservative media. whereas shulkin left because of questions about his travel expenses and that sort of thing at this point it seems like pruett is standing on thicker ice. >> at the moment at least. jeff, in addition to what is happening today, the president attacking amazon and the "washington post" on twitter today. and the reaction right now that you are hearing? >> reporter: well, it's interesting. the president attacking amazon for the second time in three days, richard. suggesting that amazon for instance hasn't paid its fair share of taxes. here's what he put on twitter. it is a two parter. he says this, while we are on

the subject it is reported that the u.s. post office will lose $1.50 on average for each package it delivers for amazon. that amounts to billions of dollars. the failing "new york times" or reports that the size of the lobbying staff ballooned and that does not include the "washington post" which is used as a lobbyist and should so register. his post office scam must stop. amazon must pay real costs and taxes now. i would point out that a sort familiar with this says when the u.s. postal service writes its delivery contracts including the one that it wrote with am by law they have to be written so that the u.s. postal service is profitable. on the issue of taxes the president suggesting that amazon is somehow scamming the u.s. postal service. there is a patchwork of state and local regulations that determine how much money has to collect in terms of taxes. and the point that the "washington post" is somehow

doing the lobbying work of amazon is on its face false. so i reached out to amazon, to the "washington post," also to the u.s. postal service for reaction, richard. no one wanted to say anything about the president's tweets. we got varying degrees of no comment. i would point out though that in terms of policy the white house says it expects to take no actions whether in terms of taxes or sort of retaliatory steps against the online retailers. >> jeff bennett there with the president in florida. thank you so much jeff. want to bring in our panel, jeff mason, some min kim. a lot of moves in the cabinet this week and the question is what is next. some are calling it the spring cleaning since we had the first day of spring recently. >> i think we are all watching for who may be at risk here. i mean there is always chatter whether the chief of staff john kelly is up or down these days.

you have to remember the problems that creates for the other end of pennsylvania avenue on capitol hill. once the president goes on a firing spree and gets rid of his secretary of state and moves the cia director and gets rid of the va secretary it is a at the senators who have to confirm all the replacements for these cabinet efficient. we are in an election year and they would rather be talking about their tax law and bipartisan litigation. they are in the middle of contention cabinet confirmations with democrats indicating resistance to secretary of state nominee mike pompeo. with republicans and democrats showing concerns about gina haswell to lead the cia. and questions about whether dr. ronnie jackson, who has been nominated to replace secretary shulkin, whether he has the management kmops to lead the v.a. it's leading the son into

another contention round of fights. >> your view? >> i think she is right that the complications on capitol hill will did he havely be ones that the white house will have to pace. i think though you can never predict what president trump will do next he has made so many changes just in the last few weeks you get the impression that maybe he's getting the team in place that he wants to have. in addition to posts that require confirmation at capitol hill he is also bringing in a new national security adviser, a new economic adviser. they will not require confirmation. but it does have the feel of a brand-new team going into the next few months. >> now, the attack -- moving onto the send topic that jeff was reporting on, amazon, the idea is that -- is it taking advantage of the united states postal service? we have seen this president hit out on a similar topic space in december. this is not necessarily new coming after the united states

postal service as well as amazon. is there some meat on this bone? there is the issue of his claim that actually amazon is taking advantage of a low cost or lower cost than it should be from the u.s. postal service. go ahead seung min. >> first of all, since it has been brought up, i want to stress at that the "washington post" is a independent news organization. i think what the president has done here is brought up some sort of -- he has been kind of misleading about what he said about the retailer. clearly in the 45 states that do have a sales tax amazon pays sales taxes in those areas as well and the bothal service contracts with amazon have been profitable. i think what we are looking at right now, what members of congress and the prodder public are looking at statements from the white house saying there are

no actions planned at this time. clearly we have seen the impact that the words of the president can have with the effect on the stock prices earlier this this week with the axios report saying that the president was obsessed with oppose. it's not just an action that we are watching here but it's really the rhetoric that's coming from the president himself. >> good point to make. jeff, if we follow on that, the president hitting a cultural note that would resonate with his theoretical base. main street retailers across the country not doing well because amazon might be growing bigger and bigger. some might say that might be the sentiment. he is beating that drum saying yes you see i'm looking out for you. >> yes, dfly. you see the president doing that repeatedly on lots of different issues. he always has that base in mind. the axios report suggests he was obsessed with am. his tweets suggest that as well. this is an issue he clearly is putting a lot of thought into

and has done since before he became president. he definitely likes to sort of address some anger towards jeff base owes and the fact that he brought in the "washington post" suggests that he is trying again to use the media, in this case the post in particular as a little bit of a foil when he's not happy with their reporting. sung min is right to say that's an independent newspaper and it's part of a pattern when he is upset by something. >> owned by jeff bezos but not by amazon. just to clarify. great discussion. thank you both. have a great holiday weekend. new video on story we have been following here on msnbc. cameras capturing the scene. buses full of russian diplomats leaving their embassy in washington a short time ago that followed the u.s. expulsion of russian diplomats over the alleged poisoning of an russian exspy in england. the latest move coming just hours after moscow kicked out 60 u.s. diplomats and shut down the

u.s. consulate in st. petersburg. meanwhile, the russian president flexing his military might this week test firing a new nuclear missile dubbed saidan two by nato. this as an official tells nbc news trump has told aides not to talk about a decision to supply weapons to ukraine in that country's fight against russian backed separatists trump arguing it could anger putin. joining me now, a member of the house armed services committee and a democrat. thank you for being here. >> thank you for having me. >> back to the buses and the 60 for 60. what should we do next? will we see it going back and forth expulsion after expulsion those in russia for those in the united states? >> this is the bare minimum we should be doing. we should be aligning with our nato allies and england who was essentially attacked by russia

and increasing sanctions both political and economic sanctions on russia. for example, you know, so what if they shut down one of these consulates? the fact is that we have a lot of these oligarchs running all around the western world basically investing in land buying land. we should be putting them on the target list like congress passed and the president should enforce it. for some reason the president is afraid of putin and is not acting like a ally to england and the to. again there is a lot more that needs to be done to isolate russia because they are acting like a rogue thug nation and he would should do something about it. >> how concerned are you sir of the missiles that vladimir putin was talking about? he did that with our own megyn kelly from nbc news. he now mentioned it ream in the speech i was just talking about here. how real is saidan two? it's been development for about what, a decade now. >> we have had missiles pointed at each other for decades now. we could destroy russia, they could destroy us in so many

ways. clearly, putin is trying to do some kind of distraction. putin and the whole country of russia has a huge inferiority complex. the only way they can deal with internal problems the fact they are a failing nation, the fact they are a crypto accuracy. they have a declining birth rate and a gdp of spain in a country of that size they have to try to make themselves look tougher than they are. at the end of the day new represents is not going to change it. at the end of the day what we should really be worried about russia not the type of hard weapons they are using but the soft weapons they are using, hybrid warfare, undermining democracy spreading criminal enterprises all around the world. that's the i goest problem. >> you are watching this certainly not only because of the seat that you sit in in terms of the committee but also being a hem of congress and the election coming around the corner. >> correct. >> there have been salvos fired

saying hey we have got to watch out for 2018. right now we are misdirected. >> we saw them try to affect the german election. we saw them try to fact the french election. you know, for all they do and spend money on these missiles it's actually cheaper for them to actually underline our elections by bying facebook ads, by teaming up with the trump campaign like they did during the last election. >> how concerned are you one to ten for 2018? >> very concerned because our president, president trump is clearly afraid of putin has not really ordered our national security teams to stop any more russian incursion into our elections. >> okay. >> and i think is subtly hinting to the russians there is knots going to be consequences for their actions. the fact we haven't actually enforced the sanctions against the oligarchs that we passed in congress overwhelmingly the president stepped aside represent bad intentions when it comes to the upcoming elections.

>> on the issue of syria, on assignment with richard engle brought the key issue of troops in syria and the funding $200 million in fund for syria recovery, this as there are at least a try angulation of concern from our general on the ground and we still need help here. representative, can you hear me. >> can you say that again. >> with the ken of the general on the ground that there are at least two other areas of concern, it's not just isis, but there is also turkish force, there are also russian forces on the ground here. we have $200 million for syria recovery that donald trump would like to freeze. >> we need to have stability in the region. we need a stable president. the actions of this president making rash decisions by microphone without working with the national security adviser

and without our genreless is dangerous in that area. he needs to establish a professional team. right now the team around him is a bunch of yes men and yes women when it comes to national security. he need to stop tweeting out foreign policy. especially middle east policy. i did work over there when i was in the marines. it's not the best way to operate. i saw what happens when you have bad leadership and bad presidents making bad decisions. >> would you include james mattis in that group you were speaking of. >> he used to take more lead in the group. i trust him, trust his advice but the fact that you have a third switch now in the national security adviser tells that you the presidency, the west wing itself, not necessarily the pentagon doesn't have the experience and adult leadership it needs when it comes to foreign policy decisions not just in syria but all around the world. >> congressman ruben guying ao

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any it was tough because i saw with my two twin 9-year-old boys. we saw it at the same time. sanders we saw it my kids asked me daddy he got shot 20 times

for holding a cell phone. i froze. i didn't know what to tell them at the time. that's what they saw. >> matt barnes leading a rally happening right now in sacramento california against the police shooting of stephon clark. private autopsy accidentings reveal the 22-year-old would shot eight times, seven of those bullets striking him from behind. >> the first shot he received would be number 7 to the left side and back of his chest. and the propulsion of the bullet and the injuries caused made him, shoved him around and he turned around and his back was facing the officers. >> lawyers for the family also suggesting here the autopsy findings contradict the police version of that event, raising more questions about why police muted the audio on their body camera videos immediately after the shooting.

officers at the scene fired 20 shots at clark mistaking his cell phone for a gun, as was stated. let's bring in mark clakston, retired n.y.p.d. detective and director of the blah law enforcement alliance. also john burst. mark, the autopsy findings here of the eight shot, seven which appear to be from behind one to on the side here, what do you make of those results? >> well, first off, i think the results are inconsistent with the initial statements that were made by the police department there in sacramento. so i think that's very troubling. and it's concerning i think as well. there should be significant questions about some of the tactical decisions that were made, even about the resource allocation made by the sacramento police department in regards to responding to an individual allegedly who was breaking car windows or smashing

windows. that seems to be such a heavy-handed response. but i think what that does is show you in policing, law enforcement in general there is an implicit bias and a response in police officers across the nation to alleged crimes involving individuals of color -- black and brown people have a much different higher spence and a higher rate of fatal encounters. >> john, this development of the autopsy by the family done by themselves not waiting for the official autopsy, what does this mean for criminal and or civil cases moving forward? >> i think it's extraordinary and a very important part. i frequently have a second autopsy or photographs of the bodies because you need that kind of information independently of what the police have to say because often you will find that a police version

of events like what happened in this case are contradicted by evidence and the body itself and the scene. it's important from a criminal defense lawyer to go to the scene immediately and get a second autopsy seasons you can can. >> what about shot from behind here. >> from my point of view i would have the to say look how can that happen? then we will have to do an accident reconstruction. i would then want to figure out -- because i have to disprove what the police officers said and show evidence that's consistent with what the autopsy shows that can be done through a reconstruction. as a plaintiff's lawyer or criminal defense lawyer we would say it does not support what the plifs have to say. i would cause you to go further and find out what else that was said that was not true. but from the community's point of view it's outrageous to think the man was shot this number of

times in the back. when you have that level of question it cause as distrusting of the police officers. it don't bode well for other police departments and other cases. and even when there is a contradiction between the verbal description and the physical description and nothing is done. >> mark, we have 20 shots fired and that eight of them entered stephon clark's body. we have the practice of turning off audio. describe what standard practice might be based on this situation and these two data points mark quickly here if you can. >> well, what's important here is that police across the nation are taught, instructed to adhere to this use of force continuum. it basically gives you the road map for how much force should be used in a particular case.

for example, if a person smacks you it's not reasonable to use deadly physical force against them. but richard we can't avoid the implicit bias in these cases. these type of excessive tragic cases only involving black and brown individuals of course in this nation consistently. and that's why it is not a local problem. it is a national problem that deals with police standards, professionalism, and the implicit bias that is baked into the system. >> john burst, you and i have talked about this topic too many times, mark, you too, you are reflecting on that, mark. when you look at the case here, that is happening in california as well as louisiana and you put it together -- we keep on saying this, can you believe we are still at this storyline. >> absolutely. we have -- this past week i found another case was a young man was shot in the back. i have had three or four in the last would months. it is a common problem existing. i finished a case in sacramento last year where an african-american male a homeless

guy was shot multiple times by the police on video cameras. even in those situations the police tried to justify their conduct. i don't see an end to it but i say it's important in a place like sacramento for the police to try to work with the community. there are thing that can be done. in term of the implicit bias and the actual bias that police officers have when they come to this kind of situation, that is not something that's going away this the near future. we will be back here again and again and again. >> sacramento california live right now. all of those folks saying no matter what the cause is, they want it to stop. mark clakston and john burst thank you so much. >> thank you. motion denied. despite calls from republicans jeff sessions declines to appoint a special counsel to investigate the fbi. how that can effect his relationship with the president.

thanks for staying with us. yet another potential wedge in the relationship between frump and his attorney general jeff sessions. sessions announcing he will not appoint a special counsel to investigate the fbi. at least for now. that despite the urging of house and senate republicans who want to investigate what they say is evidence of political bias within the agency. but in a wler to congress

sessions announced the appointment of utah u.s. attorney john huber to lead an internal investigation alongside d.o.j. inspector general and saying he will reconsider a second special counsel if their review warrants one down line, sometime in the future. bring in benjamin with ittis, msnbc legal analyst. and matthew nussbaum, white house reporter at politico. benjamin, let's start with this. the assignment of huber, which may be one of i guess several senior -- several senior staff at least in the d.o.j., what does that say to you in terms of where sessions might be thinking this could go? so, really, all this is is an elaboration of a point that he -- sessions made sometime earlier.

sessions has been under pressure from these members of congress to appoint a special counsel. and a number of months -- a couple of months ago he wrote a letter saying no he wasn't going to do that. he was going to have senior prosecutors look at the stuff and decide whether there was even anything to investigate here. and what he's done in this letter is said, number one, the name of the most season of those prosecutors is john huber, and who is the u.s. attorney in utah. but secondly, that that review is taking place in conjunction with signing all of a -- a general review in a non-criminal setting to the inspector general's office. really, all he has done is he's added the inspector general to the mix, and he's given a name to what he used to call senior prosecutors. do you think it's worth saying here that jeff session is for

enormous prour, both from the president and from congress -- pressure, both from the president and from congress. and this is actually the right way to handle this. and you know, my enthusiasm for the attorney general, i assure you, is under control. but he deserves credit here for not leaping to do something precipitously or responding to in an inappropriate fashion to political pressure including from a man who keeps threatening to fire him. >> one might ask here as a part of all that is happening here matthew what is next. will he cave at some point? will sessions, the attorney general here, will the president say okay this is it, i am done with you and i now, in my, quote, unquote, spring cleaning we are going to replace you. >> i think we are unlikely to see as a result of this move the president ease up his pressure on attorney general sessions. sessions has become one of his favorite punching bags.

and we know that this sort of convoluted notion of some corruption at the fbi that's at the core of this russia is something that's very attractive to the president and to republicans in congress. so i expect to see him continue beating that drum and continue going after attorney general sessions. that said, there has been so much turnover recently from the secretary of state to the secretary of veterans affairs that i don't think there is a real appetite within the white house to also be replacing your attorney general with the mid terms looming. but that doesn't mean the president won't do it. he has made controversial personnel moves before even when it was not in his best political interests. >> it seems whenway look at the descriptions of what huber can do as well as the inspector general, it is review then offer recommendations, a special counsel, benjamin and you know better than i he has subpoena

capability as well as the drawing up of criminal charges. should anything be added to that? also, should the attorney general him be recused from this issue because it seems to be related to russia as well. >> look, the scope of the attorney general's recusal is a bit of a head scratcher, obviously. and he has been involved in a bunch of matters that people think he should be recused from, given his earlier recusal statement. in this instance, look, the inspector general's role as a general matter is to look into allegations whether or not they have criminal elements of misconduct within the justice department. and so as a presumptive matter if people were concern about the way a fisa application was handled or the way a fbi or a

lawyer behaved, dealing with that in the context of the oig framework seems appropriate unless you have evidence of criminal conduct. usually we do not open a criminal investigation without what's called a predicate for a criminal investigation, which is some reasonable basis to think that a crime may have been committed. i am still honestly scratching my head here and saying of all these issues that people want a new special counsel to investigate, what on earth is the crime that is supposed to have taken place? and so i start with the question that is there even a predicate for a proper investigation here? >> quickly, 15 second to you here matthew. charles grassley, robert goodlet ads well as gowdy, those are the republican leaders that sessions addressed his letter to. why those three? >> because of their role overseeing the judiciary and the

oversight committees that have to do with this. and a lot of republicans, them included would like to see a second special counsel because of the political cover that that would then give the trump white house to be able to say, look, both sides are under special counsel investigation. >> matthew nussbaum, thank you so much, benjamin with ittis as well. appreciate your perspectives and expertise. now that they have marched, parkland students are ready to take their message to a town hall near you. we will talk with one of them about the next phase of their movement. plus how one tv personality is learning the hard way to not cross these passionate students. that dry my mouth. i just drank tons of water all the time. it was never enough. i wasn't sure i was going to be able to continue singing. i saw my dentist. he suggested biotene. it feels refreshing. my mouth felt more lubricated. i use biotene rinse twice a day and then i use the spray throughout the day. it actually saved my career in a way.

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fox news host laura ingraham is going on vacation after she mocked a teenage survivor of the florida school massacre. david hogg who was at the receiving end of the personal attack fired back he wanted ingraham's sponsors to boycott her show. a wave of companies, including hulu, nestle, and trip adviser have since dumped ingraham. the fox host meantime issuing this apology. until the spirit of holy for the hurt her tweet caused hogg or any of the brave victims of parkland. hogg has not accepted her apology saying it was too little too late. meanwhile he and his classmates keep up their fight against gun violence and say they will to the be distracted here. joining me, two students.

thank you boat for being here. you want to start with you on this, daniel. you have watched the number of companies grow just within the days. early on, single digits. then double digits. over a dozen as of today. what's your reflection on what the host from fox news said? and what has been happening after one of your classmates, hogg, responded? what do you think of it so far? >> first of all i think it's kind of irresponsible that she would call him out on that for not getting accepted into one of the colleges. but secondly, i think that he did the right thing to kind of ask for a boycott in a sense. and i am happy that the companies that were advertised followed through with that. >> the story certainly hasn't

ended there. as the days go by one of the things we have learned ream here is that those who participated -- i assume you were there daniel for one of the marches? yes? >> yes. i was in d.c. >> you were in d.c. and alessia, which march were you at. the d.c. march and also the march 14th one that we held at the capitol. >> alessia, you know this because you are on the ground. statistics on that, folks from close to age 50, and close to 80%, this was not their first march, if you will. this was not the first time that they have been part of an activist activity set here and many of them were democratic. so more of the data is come out about who was marching with you, 79% identified as left leaning. steve kornacki's great work here

that we are sharing with you right now. what does this say, do you think, about your movement, march for yoour lives? >> i think it says that we have the right people with us and that if you are willing to go out there and willing to be active that this isn't just going to stop here. clearly if 80% of people have participated in marches before, why would they end now? we will keep on marching. we will keep on marching for our lives. we will keep on marching to enpolice violence and we will keep on marching to make your community safer. >> daniel, did you also get that sense, folks were on average older than you thought and folks had more experience in doing this sort of activity set, going to d.c. mall and standing up for something they believe in? >> yeah. and that was my first kind of experience with all of that. and i think it was great that so many people showed up, especially older people, as you said. i definitely thought our -- the

people that listened to us were definitely a younger crowd. and it's great that we have a lot more support. >> daniel, what you are saying is folks from all age groups, right, were listening -- >> right. >> to what this very important group of teens were saying. let's look forward. it is now going to be town halls, right? that's the move from your movement. that's the next step in the coming weeks. tell us about what that plan is and what you hope to do at the different town halls across the country daniel. >> we are going to have one town hall for each congressman to go to. and it is for -- it is a personal way for people to talk to their congressmen and to get them to vote or to do whatever they need to do to help us. and we're going the keep inviting them if they reject our invitation, we are going to keep inviting them. and i'm pretty sure if you say

no to 20 invitations then you are forced to by law to go to one of them. >> alessia, if you are going to one of these town halls that these various candidates are organizing on their own or one that you are organizing, what is your message? >> i'm actually part of a group, montgomery county students for country control. we just released a statement on the town hall that we are organizing next week for actually governor hogan. and our message to these law makers is simply we are not going to stop. and these town halls are being organized by younger people such as myself. i'm only 17. and you know, look out for these mid-terms because fur going to continually reject our invitations to talk about one of the most important issues that are on the headlines, then that says a lot about you as a candidate. it says a lot about you as a person and a leader. >> alessia, will you be audible

to vote this coming election? yes or no? >> absolutely. >> by best to both of you i know these are difficult times after that horrible tragedy. next, fan club president. why a win for the "roseanne" reboot could also be seen as a win for the white house. hy we'ro replenish the mighty rio grande as well as over 30 watersheds across the country. we're also leading water projects in more than 100 communities. and for every drop we use... we're working to give one back. because our products rely on the same thing as we all do... clean water. and we care about it like our business depends on it.

>> i got a call from mark burnett. he did "the apprentice." he is a great guy. i called donald, to say hello. did you see roseanne's rating? 18 million. and it was about us. >> president trump taking credit for the ratings on the roseanne reboot this week. places like kansas city, tulsa cincinnati, and pittsburgh to name a few. roseanne made her character a trump supporter. her center, a hillary clinton supporter. the two have not spoken since the election. >> how could you have voted for

him. >> he talked about jobs, he said he would shake things up. we almost lost our house. >> now things are worse. >> not on the real news. >> roger williams university. former obama campaign spokesperson. michael steele, and tv critic. sonia soriya. where are we at, the success of the "roseanne" reboot. >> hearing from a trump supporter why she supports him. it doesn't mean that everybody is watching agree with her. we all know that trump supporter in our live, seeing them on tv is a recognition of what we are all doing. >> if you look at the first two episodes, not only her sister who is a hillary clinton supporter. her son, who has a black

daughter. and gender identity. concerning her grandson. complex here. >> bottom line, when i watched t i did watch it the first thing i thought was, great. president trump already has a national network, fox news doing his propaganda, sinclair doing his propganda. and now a high-rated sitcom. if this family was poor, and brown, this wouldn't be a comdeep. this would be a tragedy. continuing to represent america as a fully white population is not good for the actual information gap that exist and lead to the election of president trump. >> as you look at that the complexity who may be the typical trump voter, although this is not why they say they are doing this "roseanne"

rebeat. those who didn't go to college. 67% do not represent this economic level represented in the show. >> i think this is the support for this program. the nerve it is striking, is the primal scream from white working class voters in the center of the country that feel that politics and popular culture on the coast, dominated by wealthier, better educated people are ignoring them. that is what lead to both president trump's election, and that it is a surprise to so many people. >> you look at michael and gabriella, do you need to be from these identity groups to understand the message being said. this is a group that needs to be heard? >> you know, i think that throughout television history, we have been asked to identify with a white family. i do think there is something

problematic with that, that the all-american family say white family. these ratings are so big is an indication of identification with something. an enjoyment of something. there is something there. >> the network, fresh off the boat has blashish and some others. >> it is ironic, we are talking about lack of representation in the media. in the latino community, less than 4% of the images on television, of those, through president trump and all of his cabrini net members, the majority are rapist, criminals. how it advances, the diverse and complex america that we are. it doesn't. >> we will see roseanne involved in the donald trump 2020 election. >> i hope not. if the show is successful, she

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2:00 in the west, 5:00 in the east. president trump lashing out against amazon, using his favorite tool, twitter. for the second time in three day, this time calling the company's deal with the u.s. postal service, a deal that is a perhaps the president is being driven here by a report that came out, your bi-line on president trump at the moment. how his businesses, at the moment at least, are seeing a bit of push back. under siege is the headline. >> i don't