i'll put you on the spot for the last word on the big day of news. the president is the subject of the robert mueller investigation and facebook is still up to no good. >> completely unsurprising on both. >> no news here. >> no surprise. >> that does it for our hour. thanks to eli and anna, elise. i'm nicolle wallace, "mtp daily" starts right now. hi chuck. >> we've gone a long way from facebook saying there is no way any fake news happened here to 83 million -- >> they remind me of old-fashioned republicans. like, oh, we don't have to talk to the press. nothing to see her. hyper defensive until they want to show you something that is a mirage. i'm unimpressed. >> when you keep having to fill in the blanks it makes you wonder how much more blanks do we not know about. if it is wednesday, if you are the subject of robert mueller's investigation, is that a good thing? >> tonight, fear factor.

what is behind president trump's recent west wing drama. could the answer be in the latest mueller relevations. and china pushes back at the u.s. with tariffs of its own. could a political battle be brewing too, just in time for the midterms. and 50 years after martin luther king's assassination. the legacy he left behind and the lessons still to be learned. >> he taught us how to live, he taught us how to stand up, to be brave, courageous and bold and to never give up. >> this is "mtp daily" and it starts right now. ♪ ♪ good evening. i'm chuck todd here in washington. and welcome to "mtp daily." and welcome to what is seeming to be an increasingly trumpian few weeks. president trump is trying to control the news cycle in recent days. what about the dangerous

boarders and the military and what about the fake news and amazon is ripping off the united states postal service. as you know, the trump playbook is always the same. the best defense is a good offense. especially a deflecting offense if you will. but the question over of the last few weeks is why. what has happened over the last few weeks that has the president so afraid and so more fired up than we've seen him in over a year. that is the big question yesterday in first street. and today we may well have the answer. and we probably shouldn't be surprised. like so many things in this administration, when you are wondering why he's doing something, the answer is usually russia. "the washington post" reports that special counsel robert mueller told president trump's attorneys last month, in early march, the president is indeed the subject of the investigation but not a criminal target. could this be why president trump has been frankly so angry, if you will or so upset or active depending on your point of view. you have to acknowledge, mr. trump doesn't come into a march

like a lion, he went out like a lion. since around the time of this conversation between mueller and the lawyers happened, this is what has happened with president trump. he chased away his top economic adviser he fired his secretary of state and national security adviser and his v.a. secretary, all three of those on twitter. started a trade war and attacked amazon and now sending the national guard to the southern border and that is just to name a few of the items over the last few weeks. "the washington post" new report had some of the president's allies arguing vindication. and others saying, not so fast. but the "post" reports that president trump and allies are relieved because they take the idea of subject versus target to mean the president's criminal risk is low and if you want to know what is on his mind and look no further than this rnc post -- quote, that means that after all of this time mueller and his entire team of lawyers have still not gathered enough

evidence tfor trump to become a target. here is huge news. and here is sarah huckabee-sanders today. >> is the president still intend to answer questions from the special counsel and do it under oath. >> the president is working in conjunction with his legal team and making a determination -- as we've said many times before, there was no collusion between the president and russia. so nothing has changed. we know what we did and what we didn't do. so none of this comes as much i -- of a surprise. >> but being the subject of an investigation means your conduct falls under the scope of a grand jury and subjects can always turn into targets. now to be clear, the cop duct of president trump is still under investigation by the special counsel. republican congressman trey gowdy made this exact point this morning. >> so if you were his attorney you would not say, you wouldn't have a sigh of relief. >> heavens no. i will have a sigh of relief when the investigation is over,

and even then maybe not. >> joining me now is msnbc contributor chuck rosenberg. good to see you. >> nice to see you. >> so i'll be honest, over the last 25 years i've probably read stories that said so and so is the subject of an investigation, so and so is the target of an investigation and i, like most americans, thought there is not -- i never thought that was much difference between subject and target but i never took subject to be a positive. >> in all of my years as a federal prosecutor, i've never told a defense attorney that his or her client was a subject and had them thank me for the good news. it is not a good thing. you don't want to wake up next morning and be a subject of a federal grand jury investigation. >> so under your best abilities that you can, why do you think they're trying to spin this as a win? what is the best case scenario from the point of view of secu

low. >> i could think of an analogy. perhaps a wildfire that consumes a thousand acres better than a wildfire that consumes a hundred thousand acres but you won't celebrate it. being a subject is better than being a target but it is awful, which means your conduct is under investigation by a federal grand jury. >> is he a subject because they don't have enough evidence or because robert mueller has read the memo that the office of legal -- i believe the office of legal counsel llc memo from 2000 that said a sitting president can't be criminally indicted. >> those are two plausible reasons. i have a third. to go through your reasons, first perhaps they feel they don't have enough yet. they are continuing the investigation and they have not arrived at that conclusion. second, if they've decided they cannot charge him based on prior department of justice guidance,

then he could never be a target because he could never be a defendant. but also third, plausibly, they're doing what good prosecutors do, they're being cautious. you are not going to indict a president or label him as a target unless you are positive. and that the investigation is ongoing, they may not yet be positive. >> okay. so there was some speculation in here that said mueller -- in the "post" reporting it is alluded that john dowd may have quit over this. they say may. it is alluded to but this idea that somehow -- be careful is a trap. you could go from a subject to a target and telling you this to lure you into the interview. >> not a chance. good prosecutors don't play games. good prosecutors care deeply about their reputation, not just in front of the court, but also with the defense bar. and so they tell the truth. prosecutors in my experience are

truth-tellers. and so by the way, even if they were lying, no good defense attorney would walk their client, the president or anyone else for that matter, into a grand jury unless the defense attorneys were also convinced that they had a plausible tale to tell. so a., they don't lie. and beb., nobody would fall sen. it makes no sense this is a trap or a ruse. >> and he plans to do multiple reports reports -- and send them to rosenstein and he doesn't have to report to congress. is the most likely scenario and we've discussed this before and i don't want to go deep into every aspect but the mueller will write an obstruction report first because that is the easiest one to do and what is there is and what is not and rosenstein receives all of the reports and then police meals it. >> according to the washington post we don't know that

mueller -- >> we have to conclude that the president is not a target and they can't charge him and all of those things have to fall away. if we're left in report land, then i imagine that rosenstein aggregates multiple reports and sends them over to the congress at once. >> i want to ask you about where we are in this investigation. because it was in the atlantic earlier this week, noting we've learned a lot about different pieces of mueller's investigation, he has an obstruction of justice probe and the indictment on the russians for doing the fake news and the bots. but there is one giant gaping hole in the investigation, where we have not had a inkling of where mueller is headed. literally until the last two days when it comes to roger stone and that is the one crime we all know committed, the theft of those e-mails from the dnc server. >> right. so first of all, i think that is an excellent point and second that touches on a larger counter intelligence investigation. so the obstruction piece is discrete and finite. there are a limited number of --

>> discrete doesn't mean secretive, just limited scope of what you need to do. some people will hear discrete and think it is a secret. >> it is not a secret, but it is finite. and thank you for clarifying that. but other part of, it the theft of the e-mails, the interference, the -- in the election, that is layered in complex and nuance. when i was afederal prosecutor i handl handle espionage cases and you have to assemble the intelligence. >> there is a lot of basically cou counter intelligence or secret intelligence and will we ever see it or not go to the public because it will give away to the russians how we found out. >> it is possible that you never see it and prosecutors if they believe a crime has been committed will find a way to charge it. but that is what makes it so much more complex and that is why you don't see it yet.

>> well i have to tell you, i don't know whether it is secret or not, but publicly if you've -- this would be a tricky political environment to charge somebody with a crime and say but we can't show you the evidence. >> no maybe i should explain better. if they were to charge somebody with a crime, and then all of what they've charged and the evidence to prove it would be public. >> so it would be public in that sense. >> if they decide not to charge someone with a crime, you might not see it. >> chuck rosenberg. good to have your expertise. who knew we needed legal thesaurus of target subject. the russia issues in this white house are about more than whether the president is in any legal jeopardy. there are real policy concerns as well. yesterday surrounded by baltic leaders at the white house, made it clear they're top concern is vladimir putin, here is what president trump said. >> nobody has been tougher on russia and getting along with russia would be a good thing, not a bad thing. and just about everybody agrees

to that, except very stupid people. >> but outgoing national security adviser h.r. mcmaster seems to disagree about the president's being tough enough on russia. he said the united states could be doing much more to combat that threat. >> russia brazenly and implausibly denies its actions and we have failed to impose sufficient costs. >> joining me now is gary casperoff from the human rights foundation, a long time putin critic and author of "winter is coming and why enemies of the world should be shopped". >> good to see you. >> i'm guessing when you heard -- not normal national security adviser yet but the outgoing national security adviser totally contradicted the president. in the afternoon with the baltic leader said no one has been tougher on russia, the national

security adviser who has been fired said we have done -- not done nearly enough. i know you agree with that. but what is enough? >> i think we should first recognize that russia is not a normal democratic state. it is a dictatorship. and what matters for putin is trump's remarks about putin because a dictator could not afford to look weak and if you are strong, it is -- it is most important condition of his political survival. and while trump administration -- let me emphasize administration could be tougher on russia, we could point at syria where american forces wiped out russian mercenaries and sanctions expelling democrats but trump has never said one negative word about vladimir putin. >> why does that matter? why does that matter to putin? what does he want that so much. >> because it demonstrates that vladimir putin is above russia. he's much more powerful than russian state because the

president of the united states wants good relations with him personally. and this is a narrative on russian television. it is a 24/7 american bashing. america's arch enemy and the president of the united states has been separated from the avalanche of criticism and the only critical voices are saying trump is weak because he couldn't fight a deep state long expiring against russia. so that is why the fact is that some actions against russia can be taken by this administration while trump is being positive about vladimir putin, it is good news for putin and he could point out that he's not -- he's not being criticized so that means he's the only one who can protect mother russia against evil influence of the rest of the world. >> so the president's of latvia, lithuania and estonia are standing next to president trump yesterday and they were basically in very diplomatic terms screaming at the top of

their lings about fearing the neighbor to the east. what do you think they took away from president trump not talking about russia at all in the opening remarks and having to be prompted about the russia -- about russia, not talking about the russian threat as the baultic countries see it, what did they take away from they said the right things to appease the president in the moment. what do you think they took away in private. >> i believe they left white house cob fus-- confused becaus they could see strong actions from the administration from pentagon, from national security counsel under outgoing national security adviser, i guess the report from an american intelligence serve -- services and it is one side of the story but the commander in chief is refusing to accept that russia interfered in u.s. elections and russia today is the existential enemy of the united states and

the free world. and as long as these crazy situations is preserved, nobody feels safe because at the end of the day, it is in the hands of the president of the united states to give an order to american troops to get engaged if the worst comes to the worst. >> if you want to ask you about -- western resolve. do you think it is there? do you think there is a resolve among the american european allies who have would like -- would like to be tougher on russia when it comes to the united states and resolve in europe in general that picking fights with russia isn't worth it and maybe they shouldn't be doing this. do you worry that the western resolve is cracking? >> western resolve is not where i want it to be. because for many years vladimir putin has been using all of the instruments of hybrid war to undermine this resolve. to buy influence and we could see that many european countries now are led by politicians that

are very pro-putin, like austria, slovakia, hungary and even germany now looks very weak -- >> don't forget italy. what happened there. >> and italy doesn't have a government yet. >> not yet. >> but we go on with a list of the countries and politicians like le pen in france who are arguing that good relations with russia as well as donald trump has been doing for a long time, it is much better than continuing this con frontation. putin is relying -- has been relying on confrontation as the moment important element of his domestic propaganda and at the end of the day it is still for the united states of america to take a lead. without the united states, showing the resolve and leading the call, nothing will happen. and so far donald trump is not looking as someone who good -- who will take the lead. >> i know you are skeptical of president trump and his resolve on putin and say he called you

up the week before he's going to have his summit with putin, whether it is at white house, camp david, mar-a-largo, who knows, but obviously he invited him for a summit. what -- if he asked you what does putin want out of this summit, and what trap should i avoid, me being the president in this case asking you, when it comes to dealing with putin, what would you tell him? >> i'll tell him bluntly you are already trapped, because inviting putin, that is what he wants. doesn't care about the substance of the conversation, all he wants is a picture with donald trump in the white house in mar-a-largo, anywhere because that is what will be shown on russian television to demonstrate while russia is being poorly, vladimir putin could fix everything and that will give vladimir putin enormous political power to deal with any potential discontent among his allies and henchmen in russia. >> gary, i don't think you meant

to say this, but only putin alone could fix this and i went -- i've heard somebody else say i alone could fix it. i think it was a candidate named donald trump in 2016. >> i'm sure he could find many other similarities between the two and i believe trump envies putin because he could do things trump cannot do thanks to the law of the land. >> gary casper ov. thank you. up ahead, china hits back where it hurts. american wallets. the latest on the tariff showdown and why it could have a significant impact on the midterms, believe it or not. we'll be right back.

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but more worrisome for republicans than the loss are the numbers behind the loss. about a million voters were cast in this race. think about that. for a supreme court seat in wisconsin. yes a million people came out to vote on the supreme court. highest turn out for a spring election since 2011 and this follows a pattern of democrats way over performing around the country. you have a liberal candidate, rebecca dallet beat her opponent by 12 points and compare that by donald trump by one point and president obama by 20 points in 2012. so that is concerning for republicans in wisconsin. scott walker warned himself in a series of tweets that results sew we are at risk of a blue wave in wisconsin, unquote. and walker has a lot of reason to worry. co be among the republicans swept out of office in november if there is a blue wave as he is trying to run for a third term, although it is his fourth campaign if you add in the recall. we'll be right back with more "mtp daily" in 60 seconds.

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welcome back. president trump and his new chief economic adviser insist we are not in a trade war with china. but it looks like a trade war. and it sounds like a trade war. so is it a trade war? china is firing back or preparing to fire back after the trump administration warned it plans to hit china with about $50 billion worth of tariffs. china will levy the same amount of tariffs on u.s. products. ranging from soybeans and corn, whiskey and tobacco and cars and planes. but it looks like china is trying to twist the knife politically. these are targeted where trump's support are most and in the agricultural midwest, how about whiskey and tobacco, those come from kentucky and north carolina. ca cars and planes, boeing and the auto industry calls michigan home. they have something in common.

president trump outside of washington state carried them all in 2016. so to discuss the impact of this, it is good day to have john harwood the cnbc editor and white house course poerresponde michael steel. welcome. mr. business guy, ins s-- since you are the business guy, is this a business war? does it quack like a trade war. >> not yet. i think we're on the brink of it -- and larry kudlow who is a colleague came out and calmed markets by saying -- >> it seemed to work. >> these tariffs may never take effect. and we may get into a negotiation. that did work. the marpgts ended up closi-- th markets closed higher after the futures were down after the china announcement overnight. so we're not there yet. but i think it depends on the extent to which president trump can pull back or people can contain the president because

his impulses as ams newspaper reported in the story over the weekend, this is a president right now who is following his instinct and impulses mostly unconstrained. >> and -- is he -- do we think he will likely look -- john just described is larry kudlow saying, oh, no, american will blink. i hate to say that. but china roared and america blinked. prest ump will not like that look. >> it was -- i agree that it was clearly however a concerted effort because sarah huckabee-sanders backed that up with the -- >> the markets panicked. >> exactly. so the white house at least some parts were making a concerted effort to pull back. whether the president agrees with that strategy, whether he's even aware of it, we don't know. and what he will do when he finds out, or if he's criticized

for it, that is the pattern. it is that the administration does something, is criticized for it and he reacts and either undoes tr t or veers off in a different direction. we are in a period where this is happening nearly daly, and the national security council blinked after the president said i want to bring the troops home from syria and the white house sent out a statement saying we are not bringing our troops home from syria. >> and we'll discuss the wall in a minute. but now jim mattis has given him a weird work-around. we'll let you build a wall on a military base we have there. that was like -- seriously. is he going to buy that? okay. but michael, back to the tariff issue, when does paul ryan or mitch mcconnell roar? kentucky burron. >> you are funny -- >> connell seems to --

>> come on, chuck. how do we get this far down the road and not have them say something. >> you are right. >> this is not strung on us the last 24 hours. so where is the leadership? where are the ideals and principles that free market conservatives and republicans have advocated for generations. you expect to hear that from the leadership. and to very politely and gently and publicly say to the president, well, let's talk about this. and then go down to the white house and say, are you nuts? do you know what this will do? you have an economy that is strong and growing, you have the states that are now buying into your economic plan with the tax cuts and all of that, why are you going to disrupt this market and watch 700 points, 500 points drop off the dow. >> you are going with logic. >> i'm sorry. >> and we know trump has wanted -- he has been itching for a trade war with some country in asia for years. and first japan and now china.

he wants this. he wants to -- he wants to see what happens. >> mm-hmm. >> what does the message that china sent today is we're go fog fight fire with a much stronger fire than you think. >> yes. and china also has the staying power in this deal. because xi jinping can do whatever he wants. and yes, we are a big customer of chinese goods. but there is a difference between what a democratic leader can do when he -- >> small b. democratic leader. >> when he gets pushback from john thune and chuck grassley and the republicans representing those mid western states that will get hit, that is a constraint that the chinese don't have. >> and there is another interesting aspect to the specific tariffs that china announced. a lot of them hit the state of iowa. the ambassador -- united states ambassador to china is a man

named terry bran stead, the longest serving governor in history and the state of iowa. that doesn't seem to be an accident. >> and he was chosen for that position in part because he knows something about china. he knows -- >> he and xi are close -- >> they've been friends -- they've known each other. >> for 20 years. >> more than that. >> and they do a lot of business together. >> iowa loves china. the economy is unbelievable because of china. >> and soybeans is the main market and mexico -- the main market is mexico and china. and branstad said in his confirmation hearing, and said in interviews, that one of the things he was going to try to do was normalize the trade relationship, sort of get it on a -- on better footing but not have a trade war. he said he hoped he could avoid one. >> is it possible, michael, that maybe the president is just looking for another one of these made-for-tv moments. he creates a lot of drama here, oh, my god and me and xi will

sit down and we alone will fix it. >> i think -- >> and have a summit withs xi. >> and i think that is partly true. part of the president's being exercised about all of this and driving hip to push as many buttons to get the reaction and assess where can we get this wh i -- where can i get this where we want to be. we saw this with north korea. there was excitement and we'll blow up the world and now we're going to sit down have a summit. so there may be something to that. but the problem is, how do we determine what is real and what isn't in the made for television. >> and there are people on wall street trying to figure that out. >> nobody knows. there are a lot of senior citizens looking at 401(k) tonight and concerned about the level of gains they've made in the last year will be wiped away in a week. >> john, the last word on this, the markets -- the second they seem to be receiving a message

of -- and reacting to what is happening three hours later the exact opposite happens. if it is surging, then there is a selloff. at what point does the public ignore the market fluctuation. >> i think the public does largely ignore the market pluktuation. and we cover it closely. but the markets are jumpy and jittery. and they've had a long period under trump in which the presumption is things are getting better. we're deregulated and cutting taxes. it will all be fine. we've lost the all is going to be fine presumption and people are worried something might mess up this long recovering and increasing talk about the possibility of a recession next year or in 2020 and people are starting to take notice of that. >> where consumer confidence was at the start of the year and where it is in three months -- unbelievable. sticking around. today is 50 years since martin luther king jr.'s, assassination. live at memphis where thousands

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and i've seen the promised land. i may not get there with you, but i want you to know tonight that we as a people will get to the promised land. >> might not get there with you but haunting to hear that. that was martin luther king jr. speaking to a crowd in memphis the night before he was assassinated. king was in memphis to support a strike by black sanitation workers and as if he knew that night his end was near. the 50 years ago today martin

luther king was standing on the balcony of the lorraine hotel where he was shot. and mourners across the globe are honoring his legacy. >> and joining me now is reverend jesse jackson, with dr. king the day he died. and he joins us with memphis where the lorraine motel is now the site of the national civil rights museum. reverend jackson, it is an honor to speak with you on this day, sir. >> yes, sir. >> walk me through the last day dr. king was alive? >> well, we had spent much of the weekend before and he was in kind of an agony, saying maybe i should do as much as i could in 13 years and maybe i should quit and be travel and write books and we said don't talk that way and don't say peace, peace when

there is no peace. but they are under attack. then he said maybe i should fast [ inaudible ] and come to my bedside and then he took off and said, you know, those government workers, they have worth. if they don't do their jobs, the surgeon cannot do operation and they don't do their jobs, you cannot survive. the virtue of these workers, those three moves reminded me of jesus. one, let this cup pass -- be as we fast and prayed and with those same kind of three moves and then the last day after we'd been here for a day, and the night before he -- was in a relaxed mood that day seemed to me. we went to dinner and come around the corner at almost 5:00 and we laughed and he said, you don't have a shirt and tie.

i said -- [ inaudible ] and we laugh and played and he said precious lord he did so and then the bullet hit him in the throat and it killed him upon impact. >> how much did you fear a day like that? how much did he fear a day like that coming? >> we live with the fear but we internalize it. he said there is no defense against some ambush or sabotage so we didn't walk around -- h f heavily guarded and without p t pistols and he said if you are a coward you fear death and we fear it could come and maybe we'd survive when we got past chicago. >> in your op ed about marking this occasion, you noted that at the time of his death he wasn't

a very popular figure. he was a polarizing figure in america. today he's revered and as much as any american dead or alive. he's probably as popular as any american dead or alive. put that in perspective. >> we love -- we love martyrs but -- marches make demands upon us. and sometimes marches can embarrass us. he said my job is to discomfort and -- so and if he we are here in memphis. that would make you uncomfortable. the focus of black america today work -- less than $15 an hour so we're working poor people and others in credit card debt. so as a march -- as a march, he would challenge unnecessary wars. so as a marcher, it was a threat but as a martyr, we could embrace his martyrdom. >> you always have a way with words. well done and well put on that one. let me ask you this, dr. king

today what, would he make of the renewed activism, whether it is young kids and guns, whether it is the women's march, the black lives matter movement and there are millennial movements all own the country, women, people of color, young kids, what would he make of this -- of what we're seeing in the last two years? >> he would be excited. the young people marching to ban assault weapons, reduce violence. a million and a half have been killed since he was killed here by gunfire 50 years ago. he thought that -- the situation of violence was too much of a burden for the nation to bear. secondly to see us fight and to free mandela, part of his drive. women fighting for equal right amendment and gender respect. these movements would excited him very much. this nonviolent direct action he felt was the key to changing america for the better. >> before i let you go, i want to ask about your health.

you are battling parkinson's, how is the battle going. you look good and strong to me. >> well, i feel strong. i thank you for your medical regimen and doing exercise, it is hard to travel a lot. all i know is that i'm not going to surrender and i think the reasonable portion i have of health and thank you for asking. >> reverend jackson, it is a pleasure and to haefr he-- to h on this day is appropriate. thanks for coming up. >> thank you. up ahead, why i'm throwing the book at something we just shouldn't be doing.

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the 2019 jeep cherokee welcome back. tonight i'm obsessed with something truly crazy that we saw yesterday. as we reported earlier, the unofficial democratic candidate in a wisconsin race for the state supreme court in wisconsin rebecca dallet clobbered the republican candidate in the race. it was yet another sign of a possible coming blue wave but that is not the part crazy. what is crazy is that we even elect judges at all. if there is one decision that should be subject to partisan politics it is for a judge. the mere act of asking for a campaign donation invites corruption. what happens when your big donor winding up on a case you decide or raise some money from outside group and you get the picture. or the person in your court is a big donor for your opponent and

what if supreme court justices were chosen by voters. and imagine if we have another campaign for the supreme court between trump's election of gorsuch and obama's choice of garland. that would become as contentious as the presidential campaign and more consequential in the long term and we would end up with the president tweeting. we need more republicans in 2018 and must hold the supreme court. and in all seriousness, so many states do elect certain judges. ask yourself, why do we do it? it only invites partisan corruption to a part of the rule of law that all of us claim to care so much about. maybe we ought to get elections out of the judiciary process. we'll be right back. this is a story about mail and packages.

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anne, the president ordered the national guard to the border today. it should be a gigantic story, but it's odd because they still have not really -- 35 days ago, the president tweeted that the border has never been more secure, that i.c.e. is doing its job. what is the urgency to get soldiers to the border. >> i don't see an urgency, but i think there's a political priority. >> sham might be the word you're looking for. >> your words not mine. clearly the president is in a heightened state about the border in general. and this is something he can do. he can't himself individually order the national guard, that has to be the states. so what he's doing --

>> you mean he's going to ask the states to give them the authority? >> in a word, yes. but to your point, there doesn't seem to be any giant urgency here. >> when president obama did this, michael steele, that was a massive migration for young people searching for political asylum. and i think there's people always looking for political asylum particularly from those south american countries now, particularly honduras. >> this is more about the politics, given how the wheels have sort of come off for the president on the daca side of things, when you get anne coulter and many on the very conservative hard right saying, what the hell is your problem? what are you doing? that rattled him, i think this is a reaction to that and a response to it. because as you rightly noted, for the last 45 days, what has

changed? not much. >> for the last few days, he's talked about it being a national security issue. it seems like he's saying why can't i take some of that 700 billion and use it for my wall? jim mattis gave him something today, and i think it's so placating that i can't imagine the president is buying it. so they have a base at the border and they're going to build a wall at the base? >> who knows what that wall is going to be, it may be a chain link fence, it may be a double re-enforced chain link fence. the president, what he's trying to do is make gestures, and the gestures are to reassure his base that he's looking after them, that he's being tough, so sending troops to the border for a noncrisis because he doesn't have his wall. and then he says, well, we're building the wall. he's not really building the

wall, but he's going to build a little piece of something on a military base. this is a president who is evincing more sound and fury than actual accomplishment. >> you used to be at the state department, so i'm going to make you do your foreign policy chops. so the president's action at the border is taking place during an election in mexico, where his favorite candidate is the front runner. >> he's sort of making his own predictions come true here. he will get a worse relationship with mexico than he had. >> this is certainly four or five months away, i mean their presidential election is in july. >> and he's about to go to the summit of the americas in peru, so he will have a chance to see the mexicans. >> that will be interesting, although it's the outgoing folks. there's so much we left on the cutting room floor and yet we

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. well, in case you missed it, the "mtp daily" team just got bigger. about nine pounds bigger. and more adorable, if that's possible. i want you to meet jonah j. bergman. jonah was born monday afternoon, we're told that mom shana is

doing great and that big sister sadie is excited to have a little brother. anyway, congratulations to jesse, the entire bergman family and jonah, let us know when you want to pitch in here when your dad's got other work to do. ari melber starts right now. ari? thank you, chuck. the political p-- "the washingtn post" leaning on sources close to the white house. the report that bob mueller views trump has a target, and this could all end with mueller releasing more than one report on trump. trump reportedly relieved that he is not a target right now. and thus might be more open to an interview with the special counsel. now let's just pause and take that in. the president of the united states,his