>> holocaust remembrance day. in the name of the 6 million jews killed in the holocaust, remembered with both sirens and silence today across israel. that is our broadcast for this thursday night. thank you so very much for being here with us. thanks for filling in, allowing me eto fly south for a few days. goodnight from nbc news head quarters in new york. happy to have you with us. on any given day of chaos in this administration, on any given day of this has never happened before and we never plan for what happens after this point because we always thought if we hit this point, it would be the end. on any given day of unprecedented insult and chaos and bewildering error and

offense and confusion, which is now a typical week day in our political lives during this administration. it used to be that we ehad to decide if these was one of these days in the trump administration that's insane because of personal failure or is this one of the days insane because of scandal? i used to think -- it was part of the way i aproched my job on a daily basis. i used to think we had to decide if today's disaster was due to ethics troubles and personnel problems based on who they put in or tried to kick out of the administration or was today a disaster because of the existential scandal that looms over all others? the russia scandal and the freak out over that investigation. what kind of disastrous day is

today? i think we've reached a point where it's fair to say that the answerer to that question i've been asking myself at the start of every news day. is it a personal disaster day or a scandal disaster day? i think the answer is now yes. every day it's all of those things all at once now. failure, scandal, chaos. it's all coming together, people. i don't think that's good. but i do think we're in sort of a new phase when there's no point distinguishing between the two different types of things going seriously wrong in our government. we have a bunch of things to get to tonight. it looks like the president may not be able to confirm his ar e. the senate looks like they may

not be confirming him after his conformation hearings today. as you know the republican speaker of the house unexpectedly quit. that has led to republicans saying their party may not even try to hold on to the house. they may just focus on trying to keep the senate. they may give up on the other house of congress. the veteran's nominee for veteran's affairs. it looks like he may not be able to be confirmed with multiple senators saying they don't think he has enough experience. more than a couple of republicans are saying he'ser not qualified for the job. and the head of the epa facing another king tide of scandal with one of trump's own political appointees blowing about 40 more whistles on ethics and spending and on pruitt lying

in his public remarks. so pruitt has been hanging by a thread for a long time. the new national securitied a ares have -- advisorer has wipe the upper echelons and he has not replaced them and that dynamic now stretching into a fourth day as white house stafferser spent a second day freaking reporters out by telling reporters nobody had any idea the presidents was going to start publicly announcing missile strikes yesterday. that when the president made that announcement online, no such strikes had been ordered or agreed upon when the president nevertheless made that public statement where he said the missiles are coming. serving white house staffers literally using the word alarming to describe the erratic

behavior and specifically about military force. in other words it's a normal thursday. and what is happening on top of all that news, what you can can think of ass the spoon stirring today's particular pot of crazy is and this is the first opart i think of the scoop. the president is no longer expected to sit for an interview with the prosecutors working for special counsel robert mueller. that's the first part of their scoop. what that news leads to though i think is probably an even bigger deal. because robert mueller's team is apparently no longer expecting an interview with the president, that is speeding up what they are are doing. quote mueller's team had been

aiming to finalize a report in the coming months on whether the president has tried to obstruct justice. their timeline had been early as may or late as july. that timeline hinged in part on reaching a decision on a presidential interview. nowx according to two sources mueller's team may be able to close the obstruction probe more quickly since they will not need to prepare for the interview or follow up on what the president says. when they say they may be able to close the obstruction part of their inquiry, that is not good news for the president or the white house. the resources familiar with the investigation say the findings mueller has collected on the attempt to obstruct justice including firing of james comey, the misleading public statement on the naturer of a june twnt 16

trump tower meeting. his dangling of pardens between grand jury witnesses who might testify against him and pressuring jeff sessions not to recuse himself from the russiaings have. those are the four areas of findings mueller is said to have collected. he would then send a confidential report to rod rosenstein. he could decide whether to send the findings to congress. from there congress would decide whether to begin impeachment proceedings against the president. we previously had reports about findings on the president and criminal obstruction of justice. what nbc news is are porting tonight is that mueller has arrived at at least four findings on the president and obstruction. the intent to fire jamess comey, the nature of the trump tower

meeting duing the campaign. the president dangling pardens before grand jury witnesses who might testify against him and pressurering attorney general jeff sessions over his reecusal from the russia investigation. those are findings that mueller and his team have arrived at. that is not good for the president. and nbc news is further reporting that we should expect this report from mueller soon. the overall gist of their are porting is that the fbi raid on the offices of trump's long-time lawyer and executive michael cohen a few days ago has so upset the president that it's now eliminated or greatly reduced the likelihood the president will sit for an interview with mueller. that, in turn moves up the time frame for mueller releasing these findings on the president and obstruction of justice.

the old timeline had been that this report could be as early as may, next month, possibly as late as july. they'll be able to release this more quick lae. so that is very significant news, broken tonight by nbc news. now obviously if this reporting is correct the next questions that come up repeatedly are are those the four findings or will there be more? and does learning this is his level of risk change ethe president's decision about whether he is going to talk to mueller? and lastly, is it in fact a settled matter that if these obstruction findings are as serious against the president, is it a settled matter that mueller wouldn't try to bring them forward as an indictment?

we've had this discussion since the start of the investigation. there is legitimate legal ambiguity to whether a sitting president can be indicted. if they have arrived in conclusions on at least these four grounds, how will it be edecided? who will decide whether these findsings from mueller will be brought forward in the form of charges verses congress to potential impeachment proceedings? would mueller's team make their own determination on that? have they? if nbc news is right and robert mueller is planning to report these findings to rod rosenstein to the justice department, would it be rosenstein's decision to put forward these findings in the form of a criminal indictment? like i said normal thursday. and then there'ser the matter of

scoop number two, which is not just this. the fact -- the scoop is actually sort of the fact that i have this. this is the new not yet released book from fired fbi director, james comey. the publisher had taken fairly heroic measurers to make sure this book did not leak out before publication on tuesday, next tuesday. a tuesday we have not yet reached. somewhere along the way those heroic measurers lost their cape and fell out of the sky. the first description of contents appeared on the daily beast, then philip rutgerrer reported the washington post obtained a copy. and he published a very good speed reading write up of what is in the book. then the new york times

published their review of the book. and titling her review quote james come akoecomey has a stor. and now i've got a copy because nbc news was able to go hunting and they tranquilized a copy and gave it to me. so "director clapper presented the intelligence community assessment just as he had to president obama and the gang of eight. there were a few questions and comments most from tom becauseert in the back row, tom bosert fired this week. i recall trump listening without interrupting and asking one question that was really more of a statement quote you found no impact on the result, right? what we could say is that we found no evidence of alteration of a the vote count.

what i found telling what was trump and his team didn't ask. they were about to lead a country attacked by a foreign adversary but had no questions about how the united states might prepare to meet that threat. instead with four of us still in our seats, the president elect and his team shifted into a strategy session about how they could spin what weed arer just told them, speaking as if we weren't there, reince priebus began describing what a press meeting about this meeting might look like. and debated how to position these findings for maximum political advantage. they were keen to emphasis that the russians hadn't eelected trump. clapper intercepted to remind them of what he had said. the intelligence community didn't analyze american politics. i had been in many briefings

with the previous presidents and had never seen bush or obama discuss strategy in front of community leaders. the intelligence community does fact. the white house does spin on its own. the searing lesson of the iraq war based on bad information of bad intelligence, never mix the two. trump had no experience in government whatsoever but in an instant the line between government and politics began to fade. the strangest image filled my mind. it seemed too odd and dramatic. i thought of new york mafia social clubs. my days in the '80s and '90s. i couldn't shake the picture and looking back, it wasn't as odd and dramatic as i thought it was at the time. the italian mafia always drew a

line between someone who is a friend of your and someone who is a friend of ours, meaning an official member of the family. i sat there thinking holy crap they're trying to make each of us a friend of ours to draw us in. as crazy as it sounds i suddenly had the feeling that the president eelect was trying to make us all pat of the same family and team trump had made it a thing of ours. team trump wanted to change that. i should have said something right then. i convinced myself speaking up would be crazy. we had just served up the russians tried to get you elected, should i now give them a lecture about how they should behave about us and no, don't think so. so i didn't say anything. nobody on the trump team thought to say maybe this is a

conversation for later or perhaps we should move along, president elect. skip ahead for a second. this goeseses to the part where comey has to tell trump about the part of the steel dossier about ladies and somebody drinking too much waterer. "we waited quietly while the others filed out. the president eelect throwing out compliments. adding that i'd handled the clinton eemail investigation honorably and had a great reputation. there seemed to be genuine concern and appreciation in his voice. he said the people of the fbi really like you. i replied i intend to sir. though it may have been the plight thing to say, i already had the job for a stated 10-year turn. i didn't want it to appear that

i needed to reapply. only once was a fbi directorer fired when bill clinton removed william sessions over allegations of serious ethical impruprities. ironically the man he replaced him with pressed aggressively for alleged administration misdeeds. after the opening monologue, i announced the nature of the material we intended to discuss. that he had been with prostitutes and that russians had filmed the episode. i didn't mention one thing, that he was having prostitutes urinate the bed as a way to soil the bed. i didn't think that was necessary to put him on notice. as i spoke i felt a strange out of body experience as if i was

asking the president about prostitutes in russia. he was eagerer to protest the allegations weren't true. i explained i wasn't saying the fbi believed the allegations. we simply thought it was important they were out there and being widely circulated. one of the fbi's jobs is to protect the president from coersion. whether they're true, it was important that he know russians might be saying such things. i stressed we did not want to keep information from him, particularly that the stress was about to report it. and asking rier torically if he seemed like a guy who needed the service of prostitutes. he mentioned a number of women. he seemed to have memorized their allegations. and it goes on from there.

this is from the new james comey book. he will do his first interview about this book and his time in the trump administration on sunday night. he'll hopefully still do a long interview with me about it next week. but this book did spring a leak today and so now we know some of what the white house and republican party have been freaking out about. in a remarkable microcosmic snap shot of what the republican party has become under this president, the national republican party has assembled a war room to go to war against the former fbi director. the republican party are running a full scale offensive to attack the fbi and former fbi directorer because they are so scared of this book. it seems because of the russia

investigation. that's at least what the president has said about why he fired comey. that led to questions about whether that was a criminal act by the president. because it was an effort to obstruct justice. the white house and the president personally spent nearly a year denouncing comey eand calling hame liarer. we've reported on contemporaneous hand-written notes that appear to cooperate comey's account of what happened between him and the president. that's now general counsel of the fbi. he's been handed over his notes. i said at the top of the show that you no longer really need to distinguish between the personnel drama and these scandals. it's eall coming together now. last night we reported on the

big list of justice department officials, including a whole bunch of trump appointees who have been ordered to hand over all their communications, their are records, not just are eilated to the russia investigation but to the firing of james comey because people have been witnesses to these things. there is voluminous evidence and testimony and records of this stuff that hassallredy been handed over, already processed. could we put up the findings agon? yes, thank you. there's voluminous stuff that issallredy part of what are apparently four major findings related to the president that robert mueller and his team are apparently red aady to are port. so comey's book is out. they can't shut him up no matterer what they're go eing to try to turn the republican parbty into.

the obstruction case against the president has at least four parts and we're told tonight it is basically red a eady to repo. i don't know what's going to happen next. and there's one more piece you should know about. i do not usually do this. this is not my bailee wick. but if you're a person who doesn't usually watch our friends at the fox news channel, you may not know what's been going on over there in the last few days and you should know because this is what the president's been watching and telling people to watch. there's one report that the president has been personally calling people and telling them to go on the air at fox and create this particular climate of expectation among the fox news audience. >> if there was ever a time that president trump was going to fire robert mueller, the special

counsel in this russia investigation it would be now. >> i would fire the sob in three seconds. >> there's nobody that needs firing more than mueller. >> mueller is a dirty cop. rosenstein is so incompetent. >> i don't think he ecan serve on an investigation in which he will end up being the key witness. >> jeff sessions tomorrow morning should fire rod rosenstein. >> the attorney general is incompetent, the fbi is corrupt and rod rosenstein are abusive at the legal process. all of them deserve to be fired. >> this is not cable news wars. i do not make a habit of showing you what's happening. i show you that because that's what the president watches for information and what he has been digesting in terms of his diet. his national security counsel is

emptying out rapidly but headed by someone he found on fox news. he doesn't really have a russia legal dfls team but likes to take advise from people he sees talking about it on fox news. that's what they're serving right now what i just showed you. so i don't know what happens next. we've got smart people here to help ussi figure it out. i want to tell you you should drink more waterer, get good sleep when you can, check in your friends and kids and parents. make a plan. when politics goes right in a well-run country citizens do not have to think much about their government and are responsibilities of citizenship. the contrary is also true. this is a time to be soberer,

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we weren't supposed to get the book but we got the book. quote i don't know whether the media storm that followed my disclosure of the february 14th, let the go conversation praufled the department of justice

leadership to appoint a special counsel. the fbi may already have been pushing for a special counsel after the trump tweet about tapes. i just know they did shortly thereafter giving muellerer authority to investigate all related matters. i don't know whether they'll find criminal wrong doing by the president or others that have not been charged as of this writing. one of the things i assume they're investigating is urgent need -- and in firing president trump was attempting to obstruct justice, which is a federal crime. it is possible. there is circumstantial evidence in that regard and there may be more that the mueller team will assemble. in this case, i am not the prosecutor. i am a witness. i have one perspective on the behavior i saw, which while disturbing and violating basic

norms of ethical leadership may fall short of being illegal. a showing of president trump's intent. is there sufficient proof he intended to take those actions and others to detail with corrupt intent? because i don't know all the evidence, i can't answer that question with certainty. unless their investigation is blocked in some fashion, they will get to the truth, whatever that is. that's from james comey's new book, which isn't out yet. joining us nicole wallace, host of deadline white house, former communications directorer for george w. bush and a nice and smart person. >> hi. >> you've had a chance to look at a little bit -- we obtained an early copy of the book. >> can i touch it? because i've just been reading it on the internet, on google.

>> saying i don't know. i i'm a witness, not a prosecutor. >> you started with the four instances we've known to have been under microscope by mueller's team to build a potential obstruction of justice case. >> and the intent behind it. >> the crafting of a bogus story to explain don jr.'s meeting with russianss in trump tower, the dangling of pardens in front of people like paul manafort and mike flynn before they were charged and at least in mike flynn's case before he became a coop r cooperating witness in the russia probe. criminal intent. and i think if you look at mike curaul oewho left the defense team over the crafting of the bogus statement -- >> because he said it might be

obstruction of justice. >> he saw something that made him something he crossed a line. it's good for jamess comey that he doesn't draw any conclusions about obstruction because he is a witness. but the other witnesses include sitting white house counsel, just about everybody who eitherer was on the campaign or went -- so bob mueller knows the answers to all the questions that jim comey posed in that excerpt you just deskrubed. >> what do you think about the fact that the national republican part a ehas put together a war room to denounce james come a, calling him liing comey. they're going to war against the fbi and come a y to try to turn people against him on the publication of this book. what do you make of that decision? >> i think it's another

illustration of the complete defamation of the republican party standing for anything it was supposed to stand for. i'm a former practicing member of the part a and it never stood for character assassination of a man like james komy ewho served republican presidents. you may disagree with everything president bush advanced, but to are have today's rnc craft a plan and staff a war room to smear him is've had breaking net the president reportedly planning a pardon. abc news is reeporting he has signed off on a pardon that is a surprise. i want to explain that story and get your are a reaction. ry i was really surprised that i wasn't finding all of these germans in my tree.

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abc news has broken a story that we have not confirmed. even though woo have not confirmed it because it's rar source of significant discussion and according it jonathan carl -- at abc news quote president donald trump is poised to pardon scooter libby. he was convicted in 2007 of lying to the fbi in obstruction of justice in the investigations

into the leak of a former covert cia operative. then president bush spared him prison time but hoe didn't pardn him. since he's had his law license restored. and voting rights returned in 2015. attorneys joe -- and his wife are among the conservatives that have been urging a pardon for libby. and former communications director for george w bush which means you know at least the people involved. i know scooterer we ee eer well. i was eating with him the day before he was charged.

the president had a very brief and simple statement. the vice president i think it didn't hold as a secret are for long that the vice president cheney thought not pardoning scooterer l elibby was a mistak. george w. bush i have never heard any regret about not pardoning him. he thought the crime of ubstruksz of justice and lying to the fbi were serious enough that he wasn't going to pardon him. i think they're the same crimes that people like mike flynn and paul manafort -- well, paul manafort's been charged with a lot of things. if and people around donald trump have either been charged with, pleaded guilty to or look guilty of being charged with. so to create a narrative the likes of which you just showed on fox news, which is sort of shocking. i think when people ask what

happens next and that question about eating your wheaties and fortifying yourself is a good one. because what happens next could be nothing. because i think fox news is conditioning the country to accept a pardon to prepare them for a pardoning of everybody input's seemingly corrupt enterprise. >> the crimes libby was convicted were obstruction and lying to the fbi. if this is to define the fbi as bad, criminal, bias. something that needs to be opposed and denounced, then lying to a bad organization like that shouldn't be seen as a bad thing. >> and they're saying worst things than that about the fbi. they have described bob mueller --

>> heroism in vietnam. >> they have tied him in a graphic as the head of a mob family. there's been a dump done on him for cases he prosecuted. they are are going after someone who is as much an architect of the policies that kept us safe after 9/11 on the law infosment side as anyone. so to see the republicans assassinate the character of not just the fbi as an institution, which they are clearly trying to do in an ongoing mannerer with donald trump as president. but to see them pull mueller into that is staggerering and stunning and i think the pardon is part of that strategy. >> thank you for coming back in after you worked a full day already. i will reiterate the breaking news. number one james comey's book has unexpectedly leaked in

advance of the date. nbc news reported tonight that mueller has arrived at four findings involving the president and obstruction of justice, including dangling pardens for people about to testify before the grand jury and abc news is now reporting that the president is poised to pardon former dick cheney chief of staff, scooter libby convicted of lying to the fbi and obstruction of justice. anything else?

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the president is a fan of the national enchoirer which you have seen at the supermarket. and the feeling is more than mutual. the national inquirer loves the president almost as much as it hates its eenemies.

quote surrounded by traitors. how they will crush their enemies. also exclose chb enquirer obama and hillary ordered fbi to spy on trump. shocking claims, staffers think president is dumb. false, his ego's out of control, false. he's hated by his own family. false. also proof fbi plot to impeach trump. down at the bottom. this is my favorite part. what don jr. is doing to stop it. so this has been going on for a while. during the election it was all trump boosterism when it was not hillary clinton conspiracy theories. it was all about hillary blackmailing the fbi and caught in gay sex sting having seedy romp at this motel. then there was a bomb shell about secret hit man or that

time she gained 5,000 pounds. we're used to celeb are rety divorces and somebody's too fat and skinny and somebody's always on the brink of dying but in the heat of the general eelection in 2016 this low brow, high profile supermarket tablloyd instead became full bore this. and right around that time the national enquirer paid 150 grand to a former playboy mod tool purchase her story of an affair she says she had with donald trump. they never published it. she signed an agreement barring her from telling anybody else that story. and in the tabloid business you call that catch and don't tell.

nationinal choirer publisher catch and killed that mcdougal story for his friend, donald trump. they have killed the story efor trump. but last month ms. mcdougal says they tricked her because she says ami and her own lawyer were secretly coordinating with trump's personal attorney. she thought she had a lawyer but she edidn't. it was part of a scheme to make her go away. and that payment from ami is now reportedly one of the things the fbi was searching for evidence about when they raided the office and hotel room monday. so, yeah, it's the national inqui inquirer. these are apparently right at

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on any other day this story -- quote eight months before the company that owned the national enquirer paid $150,000 to a former playboy

play mate who claimed shead are rr had an affair with donald trump, the tabloid paid a doorman in exchange for signing over the rights to a rumorer he had heard about the president's sex life, that he fathered a child with an employee at trump tower. it subjected the doorman to a $1 million penalty if he disclosed to anyone. none oof the doorman's story has been verified. even though they didn't run the stoy, the doorman story because they say they didn't believe it was true, for some reason the president's personal attorney says he ediscussed the story with the national enquirer while they were working on the matter. why would he talk to them if they didn't believe it or think

it was true. nbc news has asked for comment on the story but even that was awkward and we haven't heard back. thank you for being with us tonight. much appreciated. the national enquirer says they bought the story even though they didn't believe it was true. >> that's rr not their standard practice. we've spoke to a number of former employeeses and i'm not even sure they deny this. they traditionally pay for tips when they see print. doesn't really pay and that's what they originally agree eed to do. after he passed his lie detecter test.

and paid him out in full $30,000 and signed him up for a legal liability if he ever broke his side of the contract. and at that point it ended the thing. >> even from the national enquirer's typical tactics, i'm rr also fascinated by the fact that you were table to get michael cohen to admit to you he was in communication with the national enquirer about the story. that strikes me as unusual because you don't can confirm it with a person at the heart of the story until you're comfortable you're asking them about something true. >> michael cohen goes back with the national enquirer for many years. he knew the editor long before

he knew donald trump. his relationship with the enquirer was strong. he was in contact with them and someone who will happily play the role of fixer when he needs to be. the strange thing though is that i guess why they would have paid for a rumorer they believe to be false when in fact it was in touch with the president's personal attorney on a regular basis? if the personal attorney was suggesting mobaybe eit should. >> i find thus fascinating for all the reez nasons everybody d. >> the national enquirer is not a particular laeflush publication in terms of being

able to throw money at whatever it wants. it's gone through a number of bankruptcies and layoffs over the years. there'ser the question of where did the money ecome from a group called common finance has filed complaints basically saying wait a minute, if money was getting paid for stories intended as hush money, that's a campaign finance violation. >> jeff, thank you are for your time tonight. much appreciated. ♪ ♪ this is what getting your car serviced at lincoln looks like. complementary pickup and delivery servicing now comes with every new lincoln. i won. giving you, the luxury of time. that's the lincoln way.

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they're close to ready to being reported. the mueller investigation plans to put those in a report form that goes to rod rosenstein. there are are that comes as part of an nbc news tonight, that the president is not going to sit for an interview with robert mueller. that has its own implications, but one of them may be the obstruction report arrives sooner rather than later. we know it contains four elements. and also the james comey book accidentally came out early. oops. that does it for us tonight. now it's time for "the last word with lawrence o'donnell." >> good evening, rachel. i'm reading the end because i want to see how the investigation came out. if you want to take a few more minutes i have a couple pages to go and then i'll know what happens. >> i can tell you the last few words, but --