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in missouri tonight, eric grietens have been hit with new felony charges. it came couple of months ago and conjunction of revelations of extramarital affair and an extortion related to that affair and came a missouri legislature containing graphic allegations bisexual abuse of greitens. the state legislatures in missouri have considered whether they should start impeachment of governor greitens. these new felony charges alleged that he misused a campaign that
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he ran. he refused to concede anything of any of the charges against him from the beginning. he refused calls for his resignation from the leaders of the house and the senate in his state, both of whom are republican leaders. he has been on the edge of the abyss for quite some time. the new felony charges represent one more hard shove towards him becoming airborneme. a lot of eyes on the governor of missouri tonight on the wake of these new charges. international of the news tonight is north korea. they'll freeze their nuclear and long range missile tests for the time being and they plan to close one of their nuclear test sites. this news comes less than a week before kim jong-un is due to meet with president of south korea, next week on the border between those two countries and followed by one day of the installment of a brand new between the koreas' telephone
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hotlines so they can communicate with each other without notice. north korea is not announcing it is dismantling their program only that it is hitting the pause button on testing for new. the pause button is much better than the play button. next week will be interesting to see how that evolves ahead of these talks. the washington post has e edges -- attorney sessions tells the white house he may have to leave his job president trump fired his department rod rosenstein.
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the deputy attorney general approved the raid on michael cohen. of course, this our collective life now. we also tonight learned in the washington post, we learned more of the mean nicknames the president has given the top law enforcement officials in the country, we got a little more detail on that. people are familiar with jeff sessions thinking, he has said several times it finds it difficult to remain attorney general if trump fired rosenstein. but, sessions has had little ability to do anything about it given his own shaky standing with trump for recusing himself from the russia investigation. trump referred to sessions as many magoo and he referred to rosenstein as mr. peepers. a character from the 1950s
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sitcom. in order to cover the news tonight, i have to show you a picture from the 1950 sitcom and now everybody laughs of those mean nicknames that the president is so good of coming up with when he humiliates people for his own pleasure. the headline here is the attorney general says he may resign in protests if the president fires rosenstein as a way to try to kill the russia investigation, that's a capital "s" scoop for the post toinnigh. sessions told the white house that rosenstein's firing could prompt his departure. the protest resignation of an attorney general would likely insight other departure of the administration. that would create a moment of profound crisis for the white house. >> so, if rosenstein gets fired,
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in protest. it will set off a string of resignation, totally possible. as i said it is friday. so surprised. there is a lot going on in the news. you know from the post story while we are on the subject of profound crisis in the white house. today history played a rerun-it tur . it is one of my favorite episod episodes. five men got busted breaking into the headquarters of the national committee of washington, the watergate break-in. the next day, it was news coverage about that. it was interesting, right? >> five guys. all with ties to miami for system reason? what were these five guys doing in washington burglarizing that d democratic party office. this was the first washington post story by alfred e. lewis.
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there is no explanation as to why the five suspects would want to bug the offices or whether or not they were working for any individuals or organizations. there was news coverage of that particul burglary. it was of interests of this burglary but it was mild interests. nobody in the press was immediately jumping into conclusions of being the first sign of a gigantic political conspiracy that would take down the sitting president richard dixon. it is interesting some what lost to history. the democratic party actually did kind of go right there, right away when the watergate burglary happened. the press did not see it that way. the dnc, democratic party went right to the end game immediately. the watergate break-in was on june 17th, june 20th, the dnc filed a civil lawsuit against the reelection campaign for
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president nixon. saying that burglary at the headquarters, that was not just a burglary, it was a dirty trick by the president and the president should have to answer for it. lawrence o'brien today filed a suit for $1 million for the reelection of the president and five men arrested early saturday who were charged with breaking into the party's national headquarters at the watergate in washington. carl stern has the report. >> i wish to emphasize that the deadly seriousness of which we view of this entire matter. i am pleased to know that the fbi is investigating this case. i am shocked to learn that the white house through its official spokesperson deems unworthy of notice of blatant act of
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political espionage. two of the intruders had the name and phone number of another ex-cia agent. he says he knows more than he's telling and he feel he's on the right track in suing the commit teal as a co-conspirator with the five men. >> right after the watergate burglary happened, right away the dnc filed a civil lawsuit against the committee to reelect the president saying that was not some random burglars. their lawsuit basically says hey, president nixon, you did this and your campaign did this. he has to answer for it. on nbc news, people thought they
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were a little bit nuts for doing this and saying this is some conspiracy that went all the way to nixon. to people at the time it seemed over the top. >> the democratic party blames the republicans for sending five men to burglarize or bug its national headquarters, it is suing for $1 million. >> if it works, if they win the suit, it will be a new and quite novel way of raising political money, a device no one has ever used before. the democrats are $9 million in debt and if they win or should squeeze a million dollars out of the republicans, that will be just one-ninth of what they need to pay off their campaign debt. it is not clear why the democrats intend on suing or why that did not sue for the full amount they need, $9 million and trying to force republicans bail them out of debt. it is one way of getting even.
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>> people personntell me all th it is so poison by terrible cable news that's gotten so snarky. david brinkley got a good on-air snark in television. they're saying it is about the burglary, ha, david brinkley was saying what everybody was thinking at the time. the democrat party is going to blame for the burglary at the steps of the door house. everybody thought it was a joke but they did it. this is the washington post the next day. headline o'brien sues gop campaign and lays blame for bugging the white house. >> attempted yesterday to lay responsibilities for the incident at the door of the white house. he says there as developing clear line of the white house
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insight of what he calls the international involvement of charles coal sllison. the chief security agent james mccord is one o f the forgive men arrested at 2:30 a.m. former attorney john mitchell denied any party responsibility for the break in and called the lawsuit, quote "another example of sheer demagoguery on the part of mr. o'brien." >> sheer demagogue. >> nobody in the press took it seriously. we now know that those wacky over the top democrats were onto it. they were right. i mean the dnc chair says we think there is potential involvement here by president nixon counsel chuck colson.
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the dnc says hey, we are suing the president's reelection campaign. this james mccord, he was right there in the middle of it. james mccord also ended up going to prison for watergate. the president's campaign chair, john mitchell comes out and calling it a sheer -- all of these guys dismissing it are you kidding, that's a crazy conspiracy. all thof those guys went to prison. the lawsuit by the dnc was the democratic party way of planting a flag on the break-in. it is a political scandal and it is not a burglary. it is going the end up to the president and right to richard
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nixon. nobody believed them when they started. the lawsuit itself was the way they chose to try to get to the bottom of what was going on. but, also to keep it in the public eye. for example, when they found something new in their investigation into what happened behind the watergate burglary. one of their tactics was that they would amend their lawsuit and amend their complaints in the lawsuit. that would result in a new filing showing up on the dock ketel maret in that case and giving reporters something to report in this scandal as it slowly and slowly widen out. >> the democratic party was in court. tomorrow the democrats will file a complaint which allege the former secretary of commerce and finance chairman for president
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nixo nixon, stance says this is a pack of lies. democrats complained that says stance used -- establishing a political espionage squad. >> a pack of lies. this was the fall of 1972. the democrats had a new filing and they amended their complaints. they're signaling that they thought they have found a closer link between the burglary and president nixon, his campaign. in need mr. pack of lies, the finance chair for nixon campaign did end up pleading guilty on multiple charges. that was late 1972. the little clip that we showed you there. the public still basically was not sbreinterest inside the wat scandal. in november of 1972, nixon was getting re-elected.
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people did not care that much of watergate. the democrats using the lawsuit to pry out new information of the case and they got sworn deposition that helps them establish the links between the campaign and burglary and they keep on filing amendments to get people ongoing. in part, the lawsuit was their way of trying to keep the story alive. they believe it was about the president. well, by the way the following year, spring of the following year, the spring, the story no longer needed help along or kindling by the democratic party. the watergate hearing started and john dean flipped his white house counsel and special party got -- ultimately the president had to resign office. back in the slow day, the lawsuit by dnc, even though
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everybody thought it was hysterical. not only the democrats was right but in the end, they won the case. they sued the committee to reelect the president for monetary damages on the day that richard nixon left office in disgrace. >> his committee quietly sent the democratic party a check for three quarters of a million dollars. >> democrats were right. they won that lawsuit. on the day nixon left office, nobody noticed. people had other things on their mind. the democrats getting their checks and being proved right. that was no t tt the headlines of that day. because of that, the fact that the democrats did this during watergate, it was lost for history for a long while. it was dug up for a few months ago on the podcast, slow burn by reporter leon nefakh.
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o'brien pointed out the irony of president, he says the country is about to witness the test of the administration. o'brien's lawyer thought he should be careful of accusing the president of criminal activity. the chairman of the dnc was worried. i studied the nixon since the kennedy campaign. >> that was on the slow burn podcast a couple of months ago digging out the fascinating and mostly forgotten artifacts for how the democrats fought their side of the fight in watergate. well, now today surprise. that artifact from watergate not
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omnivo only proved itself to be dug up but reanimated and came back to life. the dnc, the democratic party filed a forgotten watergate style, civil freakin' lawsuit of the scandal of the way it is broke broken into. today the dnc contends that although it was russia who did the hacking to break into the dnc headquarters, people associated were willing and active partners for russia. > >> the dnc is suing the russian federation which means russia, gru and russia intelligence and suing specific staffs from the gru that's posted as the hacker 2.0, the hacking that took credit for hacking and robbery of dnc. they're bringing this suit
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against russian business associates with trump who were behind setting up with the tower meetings during the campaign and the mysterious character that told papadopoulos that russia stole its e-mails. after them, there is a whole bunch of familiar names, donald trump jr., jared kushner and george papadopoulos and rick gates. these are names unknown russian operatives who's been apart of the hacking scheme against the dnc. the democrats are seeking monetary damages just like they did back in 1972. and they're seeking from the defendant in this conspiracy and in order to justify this claim,
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the dnc has to spell out what happened to them and why they believed they were the wrong party here. we got a long pros and well written narrative of what they say what happened. >> the opening cyber attack carried out in american soil. the intelligence services hacked in the dnc computers and ex filtrated tens of thousands of documents and e-mails. russia used the stolen information to advance its own interests. supporting the campaign of donald trump whose policies would support the kremlin. and then it goes on from there at length and in details spelling out the allegation. here is the thing. a lot of people who have been watching robert mueller and the
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special counsel investigation closely. a lot of people who are close observers of the mueller probe believes and come come to exp expect -- when mueller indicted all those russians a couple of months ago, that was not for the break in of the dnc, that indictment of all of those russians was for the social media stuff of russia intelligence did. the dnc hack breaking into the democratic party phones and stealing stuff, that's criminal activities under american law. and so since we saw the other sort of more abstract indictment of all those russians, people have been waiting for the other shoes to drop in indictment of what happened to the dnc. people have been sort of
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expecting it. who knows if that has happened already. maybe the democrats would not have gone ahead with the lawsuit spelling out how they were wrong by the attack on their computers and phone systems that stole all that stuff. they are now done that and we get their written narrative and the specific time line of how they were attacked and when and what the trump campaign did to make it all work and help disseminate the fruits of these russian crimes. now that the dnc has filed this lawsuit, there is the possibility if it goes ahead that they could end up demanding documents or depositions or sworn testimonies. when you look at the list of defendants it could be a fascinating case. before we get there, the judge will have to decide if this lawsuit goes haeahead.
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a decision was clear echoes and history which makes this almost more history than i can stand. this is the bio of the judge in this case that's been assigned. way back in his resume there, way back when he was a young legal pup, see what it says there. he served special prosecution of watergate of department of justice from 1973 and 1974. the judge that they gave the dnc lawsuit today was a watergate prosecutor. this news today, history is not rhyming anymore. history is full on plagerizing at this point. orry because he's discovered super poligrip. it holds his denture tight and helps give him 65% more chewing power. leaving brad to dig in and enjoy the tastiest of t-bones.
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to burglarize our bug of its national headquarters. it is suing for $1 million. >> $1 million, june 20th1, 1972. the democrats sued for the campaign. but, the democrats charged in the lawsuit that the burglary had something to do with richard nixon and his campaign. the democratic party ended up to take $3 million when they settled the lawsuit when nixon left office in the disgrace of that scandal. today, the lawsuit that was eventually born out and won. today that lawsuit had a child. today the democratic party soothe the trump campaign and the government of russia and
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wikileaks and all a bunch of key figure, the hacking of the democratic party or the theft documents during the 2016 campaign. the new trump campaign manager reported out with words, he calls it sham and corrupt and bogus. this is just day one. we have no idea how the lawsuit is going to be played out. we can look at the consequences to see what this will happen. joining me now, mr. besla. this is my president to you. present to you. >> wonderful. what part of this did i screw up? >> you got everything right. >> when david brinkley dismissed that in the broadcast. he was sitting from 100 feet from where i am in the
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northbounbc washington. >> when we think of lawsuits in politics, sometimes they are used for political weapons. we wonder whether a lawsuit can be used to provide new factual evidence. can you get deposition or disrecovedi discovery. was that a factor? >> it was a total factor because you know as you were saying this was -- this lawsuit came three days after the break-in and there was no real assurance that there would be a proper investigation. we know there was a senate watergate committee led by sam erving and two special pr prosecutors got in on the act. three days after the break-in,
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there was no way of knowing that. this was larry o'brien, the chairman and the dnc are saying we want to make sure it is investigated and we think it is connected not only the nixon's campaign but the white house. >> am i right looking back and remembering or thinking of the time because i was not born yet. >> indeed. i was. >> george mcgovern who was running against nixon in '72 and other democrat candidates have not figured out the way to talk about the watergate scandal in the way that it resonates people. it was not a major campaign issue that was working for individual democratic politicians. part of why the democratic bringing on the lawsuit sort of shocked people. is that the way it went? >> totally. i talked to george mcgovern late
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in life, he says one of his frustration was during the campaign and he was not able to talk about the offenses of watergate that he saw in a way that moved the electric and after nixon was elected in the big land fight in '72 that you mentioned, we know from secret adjustme documents and the nixon's tape, when he was working to trying to shut down investigations that were discussed by congress and doj. >> we know nixon was freaked out by the dnc lawsuit at the time even though everyone around him publicly dismissing. i am guessing because he knew they were onto something. >> fascinating stuff. >> it is absolutely. >> michael, thank you my friend, i was so excited to talk to you about this. >> thank you, me, too. be well. good weekend. >> much more to get to, busy friday night, stay with us. go o. then you turn 40 and everything goes. tell me about it.
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last night james comey was here for an hour while i asked him a ga zillizillion questions he said he was not allowed to answer, there were a few he was able to answer point. here is one i want to bring to your attention. last night i asked mr. comey about manafort who the government admitted in open court and paul manafort has been
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under investigation by the fbi as far back as 2014. the fbi knew that when manafort unexpectedly became chairman of the campaign of donald trump in 2016. >> is there some duty to warn or any sort of -- is there some action that the fbi should take. you are not asked to do background checks for people on political campaigns but when you know of what you know of these folks and ongoing investigations involve with these people seriously matter. >> should something be said. >> in general, it depends on what the facts are that started the investigation and what you learned. the goal is to disrupt the adversary's action. sometimes they'll do a criminal case and locking up the person that's with foreign power, hey, you are hooked up with them, knock it off. sometimes it is a laying in the weeds trying to develop source of information to get close to them.
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a lot of different techniques. the goal is to defeat the add adversary's action. >> did anything like that happen in terms of manafort? >> i cannot answer that, i could but i cannot. >> it is becoming the story of my life. when he says he cannot answer that. in some situation or someone suspected in working with the foreign power, the fbi has a number of different techniques to defeat the adversary nation actions. what were those when he became chairman of the trump campaign and the fbi knew what they knew about him. as of yesterday, we know from justice department prosecutor speaking in open court that manafort was being investigated for being possibly being a back channel between the trump c campaign and the russian government. what did the fbi do when
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manafort took over the campaign in the united states? james comey left open the possibility that they did do something. like wise when i asked mr. comey of mike flynn, after the fbi interviewed flynn with his contact with russians and the justice department warned the white house that flynn was compromised by the russians and vulnerable to russian blackmail. i asked comey whether the fbi or any other intelligence agency took any measures to keep sensitive information away from flynn and protect national security since he was somebody they believed to be compromised. mr. comey told me and i quote directly, i am not permitted to answer that. >> that's interesting. the former director of the fbi said he cannot answer whether his agency took any action of the trump's campaign or administrati
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administration. given what the fbi knew of paul manafort and mike flynn who's under investigation by the fbi while they were involved in those rules. if the fbi warned the trump campaign of paul manafort or what they were looking at him for. that would add a whole new dimension of that's happening of the election. that's one big thing we learned and i got one more, that's next.
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also we remember quite ac e acutely, fbi director sending a note to congress that he was reopening hillary clinton's investigation. that letter blew up the presidential race. the clinton's campaign believe that was a comet flying down from heaven and smashing into their campaign. last night i asked comey something that happened right
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before he sent the note. rudy giuliani got on fox news and he said some surprises were coming that would turn the race in trump's favor. that was two days. after comey made the announcement and rudy giuliani says that was what he was hinting at. >> did rudy giuliani and therefore, the trump campaign have advance notice that this announcement from you was coming? >> not that i know of but i saw that same publicity and so i committed an investigation to see if people disclosing information in any other place that resulted in rudy's report in fox news or other leaks in the media. i don't know what the result was, i got fired before i
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finished. >> that answer from james comey here last night gotten a good bit of attention in the wake of the interview. mr. comey tells us rudy giuliani's comment prompted him, comey to order an fbi investigation into whether people inside the fbi were feeding the trump campaign non public investigation of the clinton's investigation during the campaign. james comey ordered an investigation into that but he said he does not know what the result was for that investigation he ordered because he soon got fired. >> well, we are not 100% sure what happened to that investigation, we think what probably happen to it that we think it got rolled into a broader investigation by the justice department inspect general and the fbi and its activity related to the 2016 election. we think the leak issue is part of what the inspector general is due to report on very soon. >> the inspector report will be issued next month which means we
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may be about to get the results of the investigation james comey talked about so intriguingly last night including the part of rudy giuliani. right as rudy giuliani is becoming the president's new lawyer on the russia case. joining us now is congressman s eric swallow. >> thank you for being with us >> thank you for having me back. >> speaking into the fbi various activities related to the 2016 campaign, we surmise that may involve a look out of whether or not fbi agenerats were leaking information during the campaign. do you think the inspector general is a credible investigator? >> i worried about that because
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what we have seen and now perhaps former director comey himself is under investigation by the director general because of what looks like republicans seeking the memos that he wrote, leaks that came out of the memo immediately and a report that he may be under investigation. >> the president wants to direct the fbi and attorney general which he believes they should not investigate. but, i would like to see the report as soon as possible. what is suggested to me is there were a number of people of the trump campaign who had four knowledge of hacks that occurred against hillary clinton whether it was roger stoneman and rudy giuliani intimating in fox news appearances that was there was an investigation about to reopen. it looks like the fix was in from all sorts of ankles late fall of the 2016 campaign.
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>> if something like that was going on and rudy giuliani was a recipient of that kind of information and using for the trump's campaign benefit. does that pose an issue becoming a legal member of the president's team? >> certainly. he would be another individual who it looks like was communicating with the trump campaign during right before the election and passing along a list of obtained information. this is an area that we tried to explore and the republicans on the house intelligence committee shows no interest willing to subpoena the documents and bank records for situations like this that we believed occurred because of what we saw of press reporting and hopefully bob mueller will tell us and with the new dnc lawsuit that we may
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find out. bob mueller can tell us what he can prove beyond a reasonable doubt. they don't have the same standard of proof and it is much lower in a civil lawsuit and what we may learn may tell us a lot more of what's going on at the peak of the campaign. >> congressman, if you heard the top of the show, i am fascinated by the dnc lawsuit as a tactic and the historical article in terms of the dnc having done that during watergate and even though as people forgot about it at the time. a lot of elected officials and serving members of congress were just as blindsided as the republicans were and as the trump campaign that this was coming that this is not something that a lot of people knew in the works before it sort of sprung on everybody today when it was filed. >> did you have advance notice that this lawsuit was coming. did you work on it in anyway. >> i did not. i am okay with that. that suggests to me that it is a
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serious lawsuit, it is not something that just to drum up political talking points. it was something that lawyers put together looking at the evidence and not asking for other politicians to weigh in. so there should be a separation of what we are doing between congress and the democratic national committee. congressman eric swallow in california. we got a little bit of breaking news that i have seen the headline for but i have not absorbed it yet. i am going to make sure what i am talking about before i tell it to you, thank you, commercial. me kind of magic wan? not quite... just the result of dell emc working with callaway to gather data - and design best-in-class clubs, transforming the player into a bonafide golfer. oh! maybe it is a magic wand. magic can't make digital transformation happen...
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i mentioned before the break there was some breaking news. this is coming out from the washington post. one of the dominating stories that we have been trying to understand has been the fbi raid on the manhattan office home and hotel room of the president's personal attorney, michael cohen. dramatic development in the whole saga surrounding the president. there is a lot of reporting that among the things that fbi agents were looking for when executing a search warrant, information related to post-gaayments that made to women and not to talk about of the alleged affair of
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donald trump. one of the things that emerged is concerns for the president and the attorney. there seems to be a pattern of collusion between lawyers. two of those instances where women were paid off. michael cohen was involved in the transaction about don't talk about trump. the same guy in both instances involved on the other side of the deal. it led to the suspicion that there is some sort of rigged system for these women who were coming forward where they thought they're getting legal representation but their lawyers are in cahoot. stormy daniels and mcdougal have gotten out of these deals. now here is the story that just broke in the washington post. >> keith davidson, the former
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attorney, is cooperating with federal minorities who are investigating trump's attorney, michael cohen. >> davidson have been asked to provide electronic information according to his spokesperson, quote, "he has done so and will continue to cooperate to the fullest extent possible under the law" >> when lawyers have lawyers, it is bad. when lawyers have lawyers who have spokesperson? >> go ahead and set yourself on fire, we'll be right back.
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at 10:00 a.m. today high school kids around country walked out of classrooms to demand gun violence. kids you see here are in d.c., taking in part of the second walk-out. unlike what happened with the walk-out on the one month of the anniversary in march. a lot of schools did not give blessings to kids to leave school grounds for these protests. these students staged a sit-in outside of paul ryan's office. back home, a handful of kids walked out of parkland. >> parkland kids have continued grass roots organizing both at home and around the country. some of the parkland survivors went to colorado today for a day
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of service to remember columbine high school. it marks 19 years since the massacre. they're happy to have help from grown ups. they're not waiting for permission from anyone. that does it for us we'll see you on monday. now it's time for the last word with ari sitting in. >> can i ask you a question that's not about breaking news, but your interview last night. >> yes. >> you last night pressed him on the issue in our era, should the political process or the fbi care about how people will misuse lies. >> um-hum. >> i wonder because you were conducting the interview, we didn't hear what you thought of his answer. you were asking about his concern that a lie about loretta lynch would be misused and what