and a very good saturday to you. thanks for being with us on this day. nuclear announcement. the reaction to kim jong-un's pledge to stop missile testing. president trump calling that progress, but after north korea abandoned every nuclear agreement in the past, what might be different this time. we have james comey's notes on his immediatinmeetings with president. the state department is reviewing whether he disclosed classified material. remembering barbara bush's legacy. we're going to start this hour with the new developments from north korea. kim jong-un announcing he will halt that country's nuclear and long-range missile testing and closing a nuclear test site. kim said the tests are no longer needed because the country has

met its nuclear objectives. it comes ahead of two historic summ summits. trump welcomed kim's announcement tweeting this is good news for north korea and the world. big progress. look forward to our summit. let's bring in our washington correspondents. as we get these announcements from north korea, from kim jong-un, is this really about the united states or might this be about south korea and potentially is the president -- is he moving too far too quickly and this is really not about him or about the united states? >> look, at first in the immediate future, of course this is about south korea. the leader of south korea, who tends to be more progressive about issues related to north korea, is having a summit with kim jong-un i believe towards the end of this week. this announcement that kim jong-un is something that lays

the groundwork for those talks. this is useful to trump. it gives him something to brag about, but the idea that substantively this is a huge win for the united states doesn't hold water. the substance of what kim jong-un is saying is that the north korean's nuclear arsenal is in such good shape they don't need to test it. that's not a move in the direction of progress. >> the site that is at least announced by kim jong-un that will be closed down is basically end of life as many watchers might call it. what is really north korea giving to the united states, to the west, in this agreement, shall we say? >> they're saying they're willing to play ball in terms of the south korea talks that will happen later this week via secure telephone line, but also ahead of president trump's meeting. two points i would make. first, it comes at a time in

which the senator from delaware announcing he would not support pompeo making it difficult for the administration to get their nominee through congress. he was someone who had quietly met with north korea leaders to lay the foundation of work for this summit that is scheduled to take place over the next couple of weeks. i would also note it's not just the united states as well as north korea we should be paying to. it's also china. we have to know what role china's president is playing in these talks and what they're going to be observing because the economic relationship between north korea and china at more than 90% of exports and imports, that's a relationship that the chinese and the trade agreements between the u.s. right now, they have to step up to address this threat of north

korea. >> charlie, is this a good deal for the united states? >> it's not a deal at all. it's the appearance of a concessi concession, which is not really a concession, but an announcement that to a local audience is we're done. we've achieved our aims. we're good now. they know that trump is going to spin this as a concession that's a response to his tough stance. what it looks like is coaxing trump to follow through on this idea of having this historic summit, historic because no american president has ever been willing to sit down with the north korean leader before as co- c co-equals. trump wants to do that. it's a distraction from his legal troubles. it's like he wants it as much as kim does and kim is coaxing him the rest of the way to the

table. >> betsy, what's your view about being able to coax the president to the table, the two leaders meeting? we have mike pompeo as an envoy, if you will, speaking with the north korean leader. the reporting is something that we're not used to discussing in such short time frames. there have been envoys in the past for difficult situations, but in this case an envoy that is not confirmed and it has questions if he can make it out of committee. >> that's right. the president's approach towards having this summit with kim jong-un is an ambitious one. he's operating under the assumption that if he and kim jong-un sit in the same room and talk long enough they'll be able to come to a deal that will end this crisis that has plagued american presidents for more than two decades now. the likelihood that they will come to an agreement is certainly beyond my pay grade to try to predict, but trump views

himself, as he's made clear, as the deal maker. he wants to be the deal maker president. he's had trouble making deals. he couldn't get the affordable care act repealed. he has trouble working with congress. he signed off on a government funding bill that he indicated he didn't like. he thought he got a raw deal from congress on that. for kim jong-un to give trump the opportunity to perhaps use this deal making prowess and get a win is something that would be tempting to this president. it remains to be seen if that plays out the way he hopes it would and pompeo's confirmation effort in the senate is something that could undercut efforts for them to try to potentially move the ball forward on this. the president needs a chief diplomat. the fact he's nominated somebody who is having so much trouble is not helpful. >> mitch mcconnell as you know could still have a vote, right?

even though it hasn't made it out of committee, we're still going to vote on mike pompeo. you're breaching the question here. kevin, who and how deep is this diplomatic team because we're not talking about months away, we're talking about in weeks they will have one of the most important meetings, a benchmark meeting for the country and also for this administration? >> let me answer this question directly. the president is having a difficult time getting his secretary of state nominee out of committee. just a couple of days ago before the democrat from delaware said that he would not support director pompeo for secretary of state, heidi said she would support him. you talk to sources within the intelligence community and they will say whether you're a republican or a democrat, talking to north korea is a good thing, but you have to do it with a lot of skepticism.

at the end of the day mike pompeo is better than dennis rodman with regards to north korea, but this is the first step in what would be a very long, long process. >> pompeo not so good one-on-on. charlie, what will happen next as we're watching this meeting? >> i'm kcurious about what sort of deal might be possible here. we know that trump wants to make a deal. he wants to be the guy who declares a victory. it seems beyond my imagination that kim will give up nuclear weapons. i don't see north korea denuclearizin denuclearizing. he says he's not going to do new

tests, but he hasn't said he's going to stop building bombs. you can see an agreement that would at least be some help in freezing things, but it would have to be living with north korea as a nuclear power. that's the kind of thing that trump couldn't live with. >> thank you. next, president trump attacks robert mueller's investigation during an early morning tweet storm. now and how he's trying to use j james comey's legal case. giuliani wants a russian probe. it can lead you on an unexpected journey... ...that brings you closer to home. for just a few days, it's only $59 to discover your heritage.

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engaged in relations with russian prostitutes, but trump that day before the pageant tweeted he had a great weekend in the russian capital. as we look at that very claim coming from president trump, and it is shown by the pictures that we have here, when you look at that very reality, harry, what might this mean to the case the president claiming -- what does it mean going forward and what does it mean to the mueller investigation? we need to drill in on that one claim by the president, yet we have proof otherwise. >> right. in terms of the actual case not that much. as barbara was explaining in the last segment, the only time it comes into play in the case is if there's an allegation of lying and you use it to bolster the credibility of someone. presumably trump who has said

people told my i didn't sleep there will brush off that claim. more generally i don't think i've ever seen such a litmus test as the comey memos. i think to everyone on one side of the aisle, they so plainly demonstrate his credibility going forward. he didn't have these memos before and yet it's clear his testimony and his book are consistent with them. puzzling anyone on the trump side can say this is defense exhibit a. >> katie, you've been watching this move along in terms of the comey memo and some of the hi t highlights that have come out of it. i'll read some.

parts of the memo were corroborated by the u.s. intelligence and i can list on and on and on. as we look at the developments from the release of these memos, what has stood out to you? >> when you, as a prosecutor, you're going to want to look for reliability because there will be no smoking gun. if it existed, we would have seen it by now. you're going to look to prove an obstruction of justice. you're going to want to try to find something that's going to corroborate the witnesses that you're going to bring up as the prosecutor against maybe ultimately donald trump as president of the united states. the consistency of the story, the fact you have a consistent narrative that has come from james comey as early as last year, if you consider the dates of the memos, they started in january through april. comey wasn't fired until may.

these are actual kept notes. whether or not they were classified or not is left to be seen, but these are notes that were taken during meetings that james comey had with the president of the united states. what's key about that is that they show that his recollection is accurate and that, think about this, the flynn references in these memos are key. he met with reince priebus on february 8th and confirmed or denied if there was an order on flynn. flynn resigns five days later and the next day that's when you hear trump pressuring james comey to let mike flynn go. these dates are all going to be corroborating what we hear from perhaps the prosecution in bob mueller's case. >> this is week two of comey. we're in week two at the moment. i have to ask you here, david, from the intelligence community perspective, comey coming forward like this unprecedented, right? what's been the view of other

folks in the intelligence community? >> as an intelligence officer i don't just look at what's there. i look at what's not there. what's fascinating in these memos that have come out, which are consistent with what comey's been saying as he's talking about his book, is the fact that the president has been asking about what did mccabe think of me. you director, comey, how much can i trust your loyalty? i didn't stay those nights in russia so i couldn't have done this. it was all about him, but what are we not hearing? it's the dog that didn't bark that's interesting here. if i'm the president of the united states and i have somebody coming in with this information about what a foreign power did to interfere in the election, even if i disagree with some of the judgments, that's my job as president. my job is to investigate that. my job is to make sure that the national security process is following up on that and trying to prevent that happening again. in all of these memos detailing these conversations, i didn't see any evidence in there that

the president was asking the fbi director what are we doing about the potential crimes that happened against the united states of america, which i am now charged to lead. >> another development in the week here, rudy giuliani now helping the president and saying i can help finish this up in weeks. can you rush up a criminal case or a criminal investigation? >> no way. possibly the obstruction case was all ready to come out, but giuliani can't effect that. there's nothing about his legal chops that can effect things. it seems to me a mission bound for failure. >> and then there's also the dnc memo. katie, what do you make of that? >> it's not the newest thing in terms of another parallel

investigation. the lawsuit perspective is what's compelling. you have the spector of possible discovery. we're going to watch this lawsuit to see whether or not it survives the motion to dismiss stage. >> david, 15 seconds. >> i briefed mueller for over a year as his personal president's daily briefer and got to know him well enough in terms of how he processes information and folks on the job. if rudy giuliani comes in and thinks because we used to work together i'm going to be able to sit down and prod him to finish this investigation early, then he doesn't know mueller very well. >> thank you so much. next, remembering the first lady of the greatest generation. the life and legacy of former first lady barbara bush. >> you see, our mom was our first and most important teacher. sit up.

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out in houston to honor the former first lady. family members and former first presidents, there you see george w.h. bush saying a final

farewell. susan, normally we will talk about other things of washington, d.c. today we get to talk about something that's not only, as i was saying at the top here, it's a sad day, but also a day that was happy and of remembering some of the great things that barbara bush represented to her family and generations of politicians, but also to the country, somebody who was everybody's mother for a day, right, barbara bush. how did it go today? >> i was in the church for the memorial service and the memorial service felt just like barbara bush in that it was crisp and funny. it was unpretensionus as a funeral could be. jeb bush said of his mother that he could feel her presence

behind him telling him to keep it short and don't get weepy. that is characteristic of his mom. >> that may be characteristic of barbara bush, though, but, craig, we both know that the family does get weepy here and there. this is a time for this family where they are not afraid to show their colors. >> well, and the president would often say that he was -- he succeeded, but president bush 41 could be very emotional. he had to watch himself closely. i think mrs. bush was -- she would have loved today. it was just exactly as she ordered, as a matter of fact. it was a real event. if you noticed as the family was leaving, people were -- it was just as if the president were coming into the house of representatives. he was leaving the church, but

people wanted to touch him and say something to him. in return he was -- and the family that was behind him, they knew probably by name almost everyone in that church. >> one of the things about barbara bush as well as h.w. is the endearing relationship the two had together. i have to think back to a bit of this story that we aired on the "today show" where h.w. talks about how much they they loved each other. i want to play that and get your reactions. >> my dad is a phenomenal letter writer and he would write mom on their wedding an verseniversari. here is one of them. will you marry me? i forgot. we did that 49 years ago. i was very happy on that day in 1945, but i'm even happier

today. you have given me joy that few men know. you have made our boys into men by bawling them out and by loving them. i have climbed perhaps the highest mountain in the world, but even that cannot hold a candle to being barbara's husband. mom used to tell me, george, don't walk ahead. little did she know i was only trying to keep up, keep up with barbara pierce from north korew. i love you. >> when the president did read that, he cried. tell us about this endearing relationship, what it means to the politics that we talk about that's happening nationally and locally and what those two mean to us being from the greatest generation. >> it's interesting. it is a great love story. they met when she was 16 and he was 17 and they were at a christmas dance at the country club. they were married just a couple of years later and now have had

the longest marriage of any presidential couple. in general, the bushes approach to public life, was a time of greater civility and more bipartis bipartisanship than we have now. it wasn't without its difficulties. it wasn't like it was a game. it was tough, but it was -- it was a kind of politics that we seem to have lost our ability to wage in washington these days. i think the passing of mrs. bush reminds us is there some way to get back to some of that civility and bipartisan spirit that the bushes represented. >> how will h.w. do now? >> it will be tough. he's not well and today had to be a closing of a book, but it will be very tough. he will have his family around him and the best medical care,

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yesterday students participated in a national school walkout. this came after the many school shootings. >> mass shootings have become common and meaningful change rare. today marks 19 years since colubine. >> joining me now is matt post. since you were part of both, how were they different? >> it's good to be here. what do you mean by different? >> how was the energy different? how would you describe the two events? >> i think we are sustaining the energy. i don't really see a whole lot of difference. i'm part of a group called

montgomery county students for gun control and our goal is to translate the energy from the march into this sustained, direct and repeated action. this walkout is just one plot on our path to november 6th, 2018. >> you heard it right. a lot of folks going how long will this parkland energy endure, right? will it go down? will it go up? will folks show up at town halls that were planned by this movement and what sort of people will show up to the events that you put together? has that changed? i know that some of the reports from the march for our lives, you had older representatives there that were still in line and did support what you were saying. clearly the walkout were all high schoolers. how has the complexion of who supports you changed? >> i think we are growing a movement and a broad coalition. gun violence affects everybody. this is not just a school safety

issue. i think the broadness of the issue lends itself to the broadness of our coalition. >> some folks reaching out to you as one of the leaders locally and nationally on this topic. who do you think has matched your energy, matched your purpose? democrats? republicans? independents? who is matching what you want done? >> i think the democratic party is in our corner, but not every democratic. this is not a partisan issue. we're interested in supporting any candidate regardless of their party affiliation who is interested in protecting our lives. >> what is next? you never get asked that, right? >> yes. like i said, we're interested in sustained action. we just organized a letter-writing campaign to members of congress. we're in the planning stages of a town hall with some of our representatives, including our

governor from maryland. we're also working closely with our board of elections to make voter registration easier and more accessible for young people. >> on a personal note, did your grades suffer at all because of this? this has taken a bit of time. what are you going to be doing this summer on top of that? >> my gpa has held steady. this summer we're going to continue the action. >> no, you? what are you going to do this summer? >> me? i'm going to continue to work for gun control and probably get some sleep. >> okay. sleep is always good. i'm not going to ask you what your gpa is and how it stayed steady. we'll leave that for another conversation. thank you, sir. appreciate it. >> absolutely. the dnc filing a lawsuit against the trump campaign, russia and wikileaks over the 2016 elections. how president trump believes it will backfire on democrats. it was my very first car accident.

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and try to force the republicans to bail them out of debt. it is one way of getting even. >> june 21st, 1972. this week history perhaps repeating itself at least to some extent. the democratic national committee filing a lawsuit alleging it was the victim of a conspira conspiracy between trump, russia and wikileaks. the move was a strategy that helped keep the scandal in the public eye. it created another legal front for nixon to worry about as well. ultimately the democrats did win their case and nixon's

reelection campaign paid $750,000, but will it work this time around the same way for the democrats as we were just discussing? to talk more, former communications director for the dnc. tell us what we may not have heard about regarding this case about why it's being moved forward and what the potential outcome might be, the hopeful outcome might be from the dnc perspective? >> i don't speak for the dnc anymore, but i think it's important because this is the biggest political theft since watergate. obviously the criminal investigation continues and that's going to play itself out, but this is how our legal system works is you have criminal tracks and you have civil tracks and it's important that these are playing out because they need to be held accountable. they need to understand if you

are going to try to undermine our democracy, there will be a price to pay. it's important to send that message for elections to come. >> it's a sizeable case they are presenting here. do you know how long it's been in the works and who is really pushing it? >> i don't. this is not something that i was involved in directly. obviously i was the target of the hacks and i was there when the leaks happened, but right now for me the focus is on i think it's the right thing to do. i think it was important to say to the people who perpetrated this that there are actions that can be taken and will be taken because when you look at 2018 and beyond, we need to make clear that the democratic process is going to be protected. this is what makes america strong is that we have a peaceful transfer of power and we can't have this process. >> this is personal for you. july 2016, you were a victim of these wikileaks releases.

what happened to you regarding these leaks? >> it's incredibly spine chilling to read the death threat for example that was laid out in the case. it was just as spine chilling yesterday to look at that as it was the day i got it a year and a half ago. i think that it's a untold part of this story of the difficult conditions under which the democratic party staff had to operate with the threats, attacks, constant harassment, phones being spoofed, all kinds of things that made it incredibly difficult to do the communications of the party. so the dnc really does have a strong standing here in terms of real damage. the millions of dollars that they potentially lost out on on donations, the money that they spent trying to clean up the systems and mitigate from these attacks, and the personal damage that people took as they tried to operate and carry out the work of the party at such a

critical moment heading into the national convention while receiving death threats. >> that happened friday, at least the release of this case and the information, and then today the president saying this works both ways because of discovery that potentially it could hurt the democrats as much as it might help them, so be careful. >> he's the distractor in chief. he tries to spin it and get people to look at the wrong thing, but the reality is that republicans have a lot to answer for here. his campaign has a lot to answer for. that's what's really going to be at stake and what's going to be the focus of this lawsuit. >> all right. thank you for spending time with us. former communications director for the dnc. thank you. texas republican senator ted cruz is facing new criticism. it follows a write-up about president trump about the 100 most influential people of 2018. in that piece cruz writes the fact that his first year as

commander in chief is not a bug, but a feature. cruz goes on to say that the coastal elites who did not expect president trump to claim the oval office are blind to his achievements, but recall the mud slinging between the two during which trump tweeted an unflattering meme which contains a cryptic statement about spilling the beans on heidi cruz. then in another message showing that cruz's lead over o'rourke. it is within the margin of

error. this might indicate a fight for a balance of power in the house and senate. that is the question, isn't it here, when we look at ted cruz here, some have said where is ted cruz and we know he's in the middle of a heated fight there for his very own race and he's embracing, it seems, president trump now. >> yeah. i think this is hurting him more than helping him or he's gotten confused. the fact is he won in a blow-out by 16 points in 2012. he should not be in this position. it's the era of trump. i think it would have been perfectly fine for senator cruz to support the president on the issues which would be typical republican issues, but i think

that the personal implications are rough on him because people are seeing what trump said about him, his father, his wife in the primaries. it was some pretty nasty stuff. so for cruz to now come out bas as if he's a good person -- and it may sound trite and like it doesn't matter, but authenticity matters to voters. i can't help but think that's playing a big role in why ted cruz is losing a lot of support in his state and with independents. it's going to be a matter of turnout. i just don't think people are turned onto him in the texas. >> it is the age of authenticity. as you look at those personal attacks from days of old, how can you let that go? this is one of the existential spaces that the two of you have been watching so carefully. charlie dent now announcing he's going to be leaving and not going for reelection.

he's also leaving early. what does that say? >> it doesn't surprise me at all. i mean, you have republican house members in particular, but republicans in general tripping over themselves trying to get out and retire and decide not to run for reelection because they see the writing on the wall. when you have paul ryan just a week ago, the leader of the house caucus, the house conference, the speaker, deciding that he's going to retire, that sends an incredibly strong message to all the republicans candidates across the country, which is hey, you know what, this blue wave that's coming, it's real. and just going back to texas for a second, the president is underwater in texas. democrats are competing in a very red, deep red state, which is unheard of just like sherry said. ted cruz won in 2012 by 16 points. now it's a statistical dead heat. there's tennessee, another senate race that is kpcompetiti

for democrats. you have the former popular governor who's leading in that race, a democrat. another race where bob corker won that by 30 plus points in 2012 and donald trump won that state by 60 points. it is really increasingly you see the writing on the wall f. the republicans see that. there is a blue wave, at least seemingly, to be coming in november. >> what's interesting to me too is we have the outgoing members with one foot out the door, their eyes on the exit sign. we've got charlie dent, trey gowdy who all of a sudden become profiles in courage and try and keep this president in check. charlie dent is supporting the effort to protect mueller so he can't be fired. i can't help but wonder down the road is there is going to be a lot of retired defeated republicans who are going to look back and say, hey, maybe i should have done that, maybe i should have been atheuthentic.

i love that they're doing it, but it's interesting they're doing it once they already announced they're out of here. >> another part of this conversation, michael flynn, who is a name all three of us know so well. he is on the campaign trail for a candidate in montana, a republican. if you see a person like again the former national security advisor mike flynn out there, a person that has made a deal with mueller, has accepted that he has done something wrong here, but he's on the campaign trail? >> that is bizarre. that is truly bizarre. either there's some information that is not being communicated to the voters in that district, or maybe they're only watching certain media that tells them exactly just one side of things. that's when we hope that the local media weighs in and sets them straight. >> when you look at that, one has to go what is happening?

>> it is quite delusional. i have no words for it. it doesn't really make any sense. but at the same time it really fits into the toxic kind of political element, climate that donald trump has put out there where you have republicans jumping out and saying, hey, we're not staying anymore. you have mike flynn going to montana. it doesn't make any sense at all. but unfortunately, we are incredibly polarized climate right now. >> as we look at democrats, though, the question might bals do they have their play book together? what works in one region of the country may not work in the other. that play book isn't all together together as of yet either. >> i think democrats are certainly in a better place. i mean the perfect example is democrats are out there talking about protecting social security, medicare and medicaid

which works across the board. it works in a rural conservative area and it works in new jersey and virginia. i think that we have a message there that definitely resonates. republicans can't run on tax cuts. they gave up that narrative in p.a. 18 as an example there. it's just incredibly unpopular. voters are not stupid. they understand it was a tax cut for the wealthy and that it ultimately will hurt them. at least we have issues that we can run on that have been resonating and they don't. >> both parties are now going through something where left is working against middle in the very democratic party itself. they're trying to find their voice. >> yeah. that is one danger of the democrat party thinking maybe this will be so easy because of trump. this is practically being handed to them. i do think they need to be careful not to assume they can go so far left because they'll lose a lot of people.

what you want are anti-trump republicans, right of center people and independents to come out and vote for what they consider to be a reasonable democrat. you don't want them to say, my gosh, this whole thing is a mess, i think i'll just stay home that day. the democrats do run that risk. i understand the internal struggle within their party. >> thank you both. tomorrow, join reverend al sharpton for the sharpton primary as he interviews senators. they'll discuss criminal justice reform, possibly 2020 presidential bids and more. watch "politics nation" tomorrow. maker you've ever met. there's a lot of innovation that goes into making our thinnest longest lasting blades on the market. precision machinery and high-quality materials from around the world. nobody else even comes close. it's about delivering a more comfortable shave every time. invented in boston, made and sold around the world. now starting at $7.99.

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