policies they are public servants and they have worked hard and they also understand that to get things done you have to work together. they have all worked together and we have a very divisive president right now, and it's pretty clear why he's not in that picture. >> all right. my thanks to rob reiner, christina bell tony, you are going to regret being so nice to us. we may never leave. we are like bats out in the sunlight for the furs time in month. that does it for me. hi katy. >> if you stay in l.a., can i come, too? >> yes, come on. >> why are you there? >> i'm doing conan. they must have had a cancellation. i called myself b rate already. all the other guests cancelled and i get to be on conan. >> you are first rate, a rate, good luck, have fun. we will be watching.

nicolle wallace. if it's monday, purchase's troubles may be confirmed. tonight, why president trump's pick for secretary of state may be inspiring a history-making senate snub. and why it matters. >> it looks iffy for this afternoon. plus, the flip side with the man who claimed he would take a bullet for the president take an indictment? the white house says there is nothing to see here. >> the president has been clear that he hasn't done anything wrong. and inside the first official state visit of the trump era. this is "mtp daily," and it starts right now. . welcome to "mtp daily." welcome to cubic inchation drama that is confirming every aspect of indicate dwros at the white house. the easy approximate's nominee

for secretary of state mike pompeo is poised to receive a historic rebuke. any moment now the senate foreign relations committee is expected to vote against his nomination during a 5:00 meeting on capitol hill. a snub like that has not happened to the president's choice for secretary of state since -- well, ever. we may hear from members of that committee after that key vote. a majority of the committee, including republican senator rand paul and all ten democrats are expected to oppose pompeo. this vote might damage his nomination, but it will not kill it. it appears pompeo will ultimately win confirmation when the full senate votes on his nomination. but with barely any support from democrats. the president today railed against democratic obstructionists and this afternoon, the white house did too. >> majority of democrats continue their pointless obstruction to score cheap political points with their base as a willful attempt to undermine american diplomacy.

regardless, the president is looking forward to mike pompeo's confirmation so he can continue doing an incredible job on behalf of the american people. >> guys, like we said, this is unprecedented confirmation drama. and it's pretty much a cubic inchation of anything that's been dogging this white house right now. whether it's the anti-political -- trump political riling up -- excuse me. whether it's the anti-trump political environment riling up democrats or the fallout from all those white house firings, or the massive signals that the president fires anyone else, say jeff sessions or rod rosenstein. it's also emblematic of the day low dose of cabinet controversies and it speaks to the high stakes drama involving this administration's foreign policy. and that foreign policy drama is playing out in real time as well. in just a few minutes the president and first lady will welcome one of our closest al ayes to the white house, french president emmanuel macron. it is technically the first

official state visit of this administration and it comes as the white house tries to navigate a gauntlet of crises with our allies, everything from russian meddling to iran's nuclear deal, to talks with north korea. but pompeo's confirmation drama shows you how the current political environment here at home trumps everything. after all, the president is the subject of a criminal investigation. his personal lawyer is the target of one. his campaign chief has been indicted. his epa chief is being investigated. his speaker of the house is jumping ship as democrats eye big gains in this year's mid terms. and the president's nominee for secretary of state likely can't get a favorable recommendation from the republican committee overseeing his nomination. and the drama involving pompeo arguably isn't even about pompeo. it's about the president. let's bring in msnbc

correspondent garrett haake outside the room where the foreign relations committee is meeting right now. he has big breaking news. and nbc's halle jackson is at the white house where we are expecting the french president to arrive any moment now. garrett, what is the breaking news? >> katy, as is so often the case with this president the news comes from twitter. although it's not the president's account making the news. but rand paul's in a series of tweets just now the kentucky senator says he spoke with president trump several times today. he spoke again with mike pompeo about some of his views. and after those conversations, he has decided to change his position and says he will vote for mike pompeo to be the president's next secretary of state. now, this changes the storyline here in this committee hearing almost entirely now. pompeo should be able to get through this committee with a favorable vote on a party line vogt. >> wow stereo we have not heard yet how jeff flake plans to vote. he has been the one person who has kept his cards close to the

vest. but he hasn't in any way indicated that he would vote no. most of what we heard from him over the last couple of days is he has had some additional questions to be answered but with this last tweet from rand paul in which he says having received assurances from president trump and director pompeo that he agrees with the president on these important issues, in this case talking about what he believes the u.s. role should be in iraq and afghanistan. he has decided to support his nomination to be secretary of state. so, katy, what was a ran paul siding with the democrats, potentially causing an embarrassment here, although not a stop to pompeo, this would have essentially made pompeo the answer to a trivia question 20 years from now, somebody who didn't get a favorable recommendation but did get a vote on the senate floor. now he will squeak by with a favorable nomination. >> let's be clear. what were rand paul's concerns?

>> rand paul's were sort of on two fronts. i think the key thing here is he wanted to see a secretary of state that fit what candidate donald trump had said specifically about iraq and afghanistan and america's role in the world, that we shouldn't be fighting endless wars in iraq. that we shouldn't be fighting enless wars in afghanistan. that we shouldn't be involved in syria. things that the president as candidate trump talked about on the campaign trail and then has pivoted away from. he felt that pompeo was too much of a classic neocon. a classic hawk, someone who anned to fight wars all over the world and he wanted to see the president nominate someone who agreed with the president back in the day. >> yeah. >> now he says he has received assurances with purchaso that he will stay in line with what the president believes on that whatever that case may be as time changes here and that apparently is good enough for rand paul. just last week the president said rand paul never let him down. and was unlikely to start here. it appears ran paul has decided

not to let the president down on this vote. >> halle, we heard the president campaign that with a, i'm not going to be the world's policeman. but you tell me if i'm wrong about this, but the presidency has looked a little bit. i mean, he's striking syria. >> yeah. >>est he's keeping some troops in syria at least for as long as they need to be there. s that an open-ended aspect to it. how did the white house go about convincing rand paul that they are going to change course? or was it something else that they convinced him of? >> i can tell you this, ten second ago i got off the phone with a source inside the administration. apologies if there were some microphone bleed on that in the garrett live shot but the president did speak with rand paul several time today. more than once. director pompeo spoke to him over the weekend as well. the white house -- here's the deal, we don't have public reaction yet from the white

house. i don't expect we will see that although there will be the an opportunity from the president when he appears with the french president. by the way you can see the color guard line up here on the driveway of the north lawn behind me here as we wait for the arrival not just at the doors of the west wing there. but i man it will be kind of a victory lap. this morning i had the director of legislative affairs mark short talking with me and he said i think the chances are good that rand paul will come around. i pushed him and said but he is a guy who said all along he will say no. but it's turning out as the white house hoped. as garrett notes this changes the narrative that has been coming out around this. bottom line, pompeo was probably going to be confirmed as secretary of state. he was going to come out of the full floor vote as the secretary of state. now what message does it send to our allies and adversaries around the world if pompeo couldn't even get out of that

committee hearing? that is changing in just the last 11 minutes or so. >> don't worry about the microphone bleed. we did not hear your conversation. emmanuel macron there to talk with the president. >> yeah. >> he wants to keep him in the iran deal. angela merkel is coming later this week to argue the same. macron made an appearance on fox news to argue that in front of the president. is he going to listen or is he going to listen to somebody like mike pompeo who has argued in the past in a we should leave the iran deal and relationship rip it up? >> i think there is a difference between listening and taking action on what you are listening to. i think all signs point to president trump, who will essentially hear out emmanuel macron's arguments, probably not in the setting of mount vergnon tonight. that's likely to be more social but likely over the next 24 hours as the two spend some time together. i think he will listen to the argument macron wants to make, is making publicly and will make to the president.

the question is though, is the president going to change his position because of what macron wants as you see him coming off the steps there from earlier at andrews. and listen, the president has been very clear about where he stands on the iranian nuclear deal. pompeo is very clear with where he stand on this. >> yeah. >> i think it would take a lot -- it would certainly take more to overcome the president's position than not. i'm not sure based on my reporting and the sources we are talk to that we are at the pivot point just yet. >> it's part of the reason he got rid of rex tillerson. he wasn't letting him get out of the iran deal. as the narrative changes moments by moments let's bring in a spoeshl assistant to president trump and press secretary to vice president pence. he is now the spokesman for the trump/pence political operation and a member of the trump 2020 advisory board. thank you for being here. what did the president tell rand paul that made him change his vote to a yes? >> i think rand paul heard what he needed to from director

pompeo, about to be secretary of state, that we are going to continue with the president's policies of putting america first. but when it comes to fighting the war on terror, when it comes to confronting the use of nuclear weapons or chemical weapons, we are going to act strongly and we are going to continue to be the world leader in that. i think also it send a signal in a the republicans will be united in the president's pick. and if this is going to a close vote it's going to be democrats who are once again obstructioning the president and sending that message to the world stage, that they do not stan with him. >> you talk about obstruction. the president has obviously said the democrats are obstructing a lot. we heard sarah huckabee sanders say that earlier. can you make the argument that democrats learned the policy of obstruction from the republicans obstruction against everything president obama tried to put through? >> john kerry was confirmed with

94 votes. hillary clinton, too. these were two presidential losers in the presidential races who republicans did not chair much in common with. but when it came to the nation's important policy, when it came to the national security they were all in favor. i think there were two votes and four votes against those two nominees. so we've always put politics aside when it comes to this. it's disappointing that they cannot do that in this respect. >> republicans haven't put politics aside when it comes to supreme court justice nominations which are arguably just as important. they left that seat open for quite a while, refusing to even have a hearing on merrick garland. how to republicans defend that? >> senator mcconnell said it very well, since this was a rare vacant see that happened during an election treer it was appropriate for the electorate snooshs it's profession i --

>> it's okay to leave a seat open on the supreme court? on election year in we have had seats open up an election year before? not on the united states supreme court. which is lifetime appointment not just an appointment that goes with a pegs tenure. again, this is very different. where to democrats want to draw the line in terms of their resistance? it's one thing if you are going to resist policy. we will have that argument during the mid terms. we will have it again in 2020. but when it comes to the national security we have a long history of both parties coming to the in a unifying theme whether it be when we are facing terror back in the early 2000s following 9/11. whether it was touring the original gulf war one, when it was going back to some of the actions that president reagan took. there was still a lot of unanimity in terms of the partisanship standing behind our country and the message we were

sending forward. >> there used to be more unanimi unanimity. used to be less partisanship. do you think the president because of the way he conducts himself, the way goes after people who don't agree with him on twitter even on policy issues. >> he has gone after people on both sides when it comes to policy issues and votes. and that's the way the president communicates. >> that's a good enough sflgs? that's the way the president communities. we are talking about a lack of partisanship and unanimity and the president is forcefully tearing apart the two parties and keeping them apart saying if you are against me in any way, if you disagree with my policy i am going to attack you. is it okay to say that's the way he communicates. >> look at the obstructionist taking place in the senate with other nominees where they are

putting up everiette roadblock and obstacles in some cases putting up all the hurdles and requiring 30 hours of debate only to confirm somebody with 90-plus votes in a non-controversial way. that's the level of object we have seen from the beginning this administration. that's why in many cases we have vacancies that are still unfilled to this day when it comes the high levels of government office. what we need to be able to do, especially when it comes to issues of national security move forward quickly as we are confronting issues with north korea, russia, the iran deal. we need full national function where that includes a secretary of state and cia director. i am hoping the senate will quickly put those two highly qualified individuals into office. >> i want you to interpreted something for me. the president has shifted to go

after robert mueller and the russia investigation. over the weekend he tweeted james comey illegally leaked documents to the press in order to create a special counsel. therefore the special counsel was established on an illegal act. really, does everybody know what that means. >> you were special assist an to donald trump. what does that mean. >> i think it means exactly what the president said it means. if we have potentially illegal leaking of information, which will be investigated and will be discovered as this process goes on, then the entire basis -- >> he had the ability to declassify and he -- number one, he had the ability to declassify as fbi director and redacted much of the information that would have been considered classified in those memos? >> that's what the inspector general and other committees are looking at right now. we will see what their determination is. but the basis of creating the special counsel was done based off of these memos. and so it's very questionable.

but let's get to the bottom line here, is that late last week we heard reporting out of bloomberg that says deputy attorney general rod rosenstein informed the president last week that he is not a target of either the special prosecutor's investigation or the michael cohen investigation. and i think that's a very big -- that's a big very big headline that hasn't gotten a lot of attention. let's let these processes play out. whether they were started under illegal or questionable practices at the beginning the white house continues to cooperate and produce documents and interviews as requested. and everyone is confident as the president has said there was no hugs and this will wrap up finding so. >> everyone is not confident. there hasn't been an assessment on that besides from the republicans in the house committee. they just said there hadn't seen any evidence of it. they just said they were confident there was no collusion. i want to correct you on that. if there is a bill to protect

robert mueller do you think the president should sign it? >> i don't think there will be a bill passed to do that. >> if there is one, will he sign it? >> i don't want to get ahead of what the white house is or isn't inclined to to. the white house reiterated time and time again there arer no plans to fire robert mueller or the deputy attorney general. there is in reason for this bill and that's why it's not going to be brought to the floor of the united states senate. ahead, from one cabinet conundrum to another, as scott pruitt's investigation grows, his influence could be shrinking. we will break down the next cabinet chaos next.

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ladies, good to see you all. let's talk about ran paul suddenly changing his mind. that's a big win for this white house, to change rand paul's mind on somebody widely considered to be very hawkish. >> huge win. now it can be cast as democrats or obstructionist. which is of course the message that president trump pushes out every day. in fact it's going to be true. everybody who ones pompeo is a democrat and republicans are united in favor. so there is no discussion about the policy issues. it's suddenly politics, just partisan and trump gets a win. >> here is french president emmanuel macron greeting american president donald trump. just a one cheek european kiss. this is the first official state visit for this president.

it's interesting because macron wants to stay in the iran deal. pompeo wants to get out of the iran deal. and right after macron is here, merkel comes to try to convince him to stay in the deal. >> he knows how to speak to the president. what is interesting about this state dinner on the is that it is completely partisan. it's unfortunate going into this meeting and this week when we have such an important issue like talking about that iran deal and should the made to stay in and it we don't have anable to have dinner together with both sides of the i will. i think that represents us poorly at our first state dinner. >> it's not just the iran deal. going out of the iran deal is one thing. but it's bown to have an effect on the negotiations for -- with north korea. i mean, if we can't stay in the iran deal what impetus does kim

jong-un have to make a deal with us? >> that's what makes all of this scary. the fact that we have an influx national security apparatus. we were talking before we came on air that yes democrats are going to be the people that are opposed to people taking over at state. also, donald trump is the reason why there isn't somebody at state. he fired the former secretary of state. so the flux that you are seeing within the entire national security apparatus is actually the making of the president. the instability actually comes from the top. so i think that, yes, you need to be able to predict and have certainty in the areas that are most serious like north korea, because that's not a place in which you can have chaos. and have folks that don't understand the underi lying policy. >> trust is lacking. we know what president says to some leads and says behind their back other things. how do you trust this -- >> i lied to the canadian prime minister about tariffs. let's talk about michael cohen

for a second. that's the other thing that's been making headlines. the president tweeting over theeck would, angrily at maggie may beerman saying you are trying to make michael cohen flip on me. here's the thing, the story is not coming out of nowhere. "washington post" has done it. "new york times" has done it. we have done it. i talked to five other people who said they were concerned about this except one person who said what is there to flip on? why is the president so concerned about it, wouldn't the line what is there to flip on, not he would never flip on me? >> let's give the president perhaps the benefit of the doubt. if there is nothing to flip on that is indeed what he should be saying. but michael cohen knows more about donald trump's private life than anybody in his whole orbit. even if it's not illegal. even if it's not something that's going to get the attention of the special counsel it could be embarrassing or sleazy or so private. ? what's embarrassing that we haven't already heard?

i mean what more could there be. >> who knows. >> there was something that came to mind today when i was thinking about these stories. it was that michael cohen also knows a lot about the condos with trump. and he has owned a few. what kind of deals has he made, with whom has he made these deals because there was talk about how money was moved around with the russians under his apartments. that could be another issue that has absolutely nothing to do with the mueller investigation but could certainly affect the legal -- you know, that could hurt donald trump legally and michael cohen could flip on him for. >> here the thing. i feel like donald trump is putting what is happening with michael cohen in the same box with the russia investigation, right. >> yeah. >> the fbi raided michael cohen's office but according to them they were looking for stormy daniels documents and other documents related to the access hollywood tape. they may have gotten documents related to the russia investigation but it's actually

trump that connected the cohen raid with russia voa tweet. >> it's everybody in that orbit that believes this is really just a way for the special counsel to get deeper into the president's dealings. they are going to uncover something that cohen has that they can feed back to the special counsel. they believe this is all one -- conspiracy might be a strong word but it's no too far off. >> it would be the correct legal word. fur saying you are talking about them saying there is an conspiracy within the fbi. i think what mueller is looking into is whether or not there was a conspiracy to hack computer systems or to violate campaign finance because there need to be an underlying crime there. collusion not the crime they are looking into. it will end up being something that looks more like a conspiracy. >> what do you think of the narrative that james comey illegally handed out his memos and it was the illegal basis for appointing a special counsel? and just fyi, it's

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here's something you don't see every day. donald trump, first lady melania trump, french president, emmanuel macron and dredgity, his wife r planting a tree on the white house grounds. unclear why they are doing that. we will figure it out and let you know as soon as we do. he also appears to be answering questions to somebody. we will already turn on that sound if he says anything news worthy. in the meantime, president trump says he is confident his long time fixer michael cohen will not turn on him. but sources close to cohen and the president tell me when faced with jail time they do not believe that michael cohen will remain loyal. in a series of tweets over the weekend president trump accused the media of going out of their way to destroy mike and his relationship with me in the hope

he will flip. most people will flip if the government lets them out of trouble even if it means lying or making up story. sorry i don't see michael doing that despite the horrible witch-hunt and the dishonest media. this morning, press secretary sarah huckabee sanders didn't rule out the possibility of president trump pardoning michael cohen. >> it's hard to close the door on something that hasn't taken place. i don't like to discuss or comment on hypothetical situations that may or may not ever happen. >> so will the man who once claimed he would take a bullet for president trump stay loyal in the face of mounting legal fees or even criminal charges? >> joining me now, mimi rocha, former u.s. assistant attorney in the southern district of new york. how do prosecutors get a witness to flip? what's the process? >> one thing you do is lay out for them how strong case against them is. you know, what is interesting here is the president is already

laying the groundwork for the defense that if michael cohen cooperates, it's because of the government did something wrong, unethical, illegal. and that's really shameful and dangerous. he is once again trashing our justice system for his own personal benefit. the justice system that he is the head of the government of. >> does it ever happen, though, that prosecutors or fbi agents do something, go a little too far when they want someone to be guilty of something or if they really want to find something that was done wrong or somebody that did something wrong they can find anything, they can fine even the smallest of grievance and inflate it and make it a big deal? >> is it possible, sure. >> or do we just see that in shows? >> anything is possible. are there bad actors in the population, yes. in my 20 years as a prosecutor, my dealings, you don't need to

go to something unethical. you don't want to and you don't need to. people cooperate because of something called evidence. that's what prosecutors and investigators base their cases on. you know, it's not just, hey, we feel like saying this or, you know, this is what we've come up with. you have actual proof. and when you show that to someone, and they see the strength of the case against them, that's when they decide to cooperate. >> the president in that tweet also said that anybody who is facing jail time would willingly lie to get a smaller sentence. what are the risks of a cooperating witness? >> look, would someone lie? again, has it ever happened in i'm not going to say it never happened but the system builds in protections to try to ensure that that doesn't happen. what are those protections? >> the main one is called crop rags. they are not going to sit there and write down what michael cohen says and go all right let's go to court now and charge

somebody. they are going to write it down, they are going to test it. they are not going to trust him the first time around. they are going to be skeptical. that's why they got a search warrant to begin with. they didn't just give him a subpoena. they didn't think he could be trusted. if he has something to say, thisser going the look for strong corroboration. and that's the main -- it's not going to be based on one. >> with it's going to be based on many. and the best kind of corroboration is obviously electronic surveillance, his own words, e-mails, all of which sounds like are things they possibly have gotten. >> they are not just going to take him at his word and say this is how it happened. >> not how it works. >> when you consider somebody like cohen who has professed his loyalty, done so publicly, on twitter, done it to reporters, he told me personally he would take a bullet for the president. he has told other reporters that as well. and he's -- i have never heard

him say anything negative about donald trump. when someone has that degree of loyalty, professes that degree of loyalty what is is the likelihood they end up turning when they are faced with a lot of jail time? >> it's going to be a dilemma for him. if he has information that can be useful to the government. and the case against cohen is as strong as one might think it is. >> this is if he has fgs that's useful? >> it is a big if. and people seem to be assuming he does. i'm going to with that flow for purposes this conversation it's going to be a dilemma for her. you are talking about personal loyalty to trump versus saving yourself and your family from jail time. >> are we going off the wrong premise here? coit be the fbi is looking into michael cohen because they have evidence that michael cohen committed a crime and that's as far as they are going to go with it. it is michael cohen based, you don't have to get him to flip on

anybody else? >> michael cohen is a worky target in and of himself i think. woe deent know all the facts yet. we will see what happens. but my guess is we are going to see this is a person who hasn't been leading life on the up and up and has committed crimes. >> that's your guess. >> it is a guess right now. but they don't usually target people, do sevens like this just to flip someone. that's something they are not in the practicing of doing. they are going after him because they think he is a worthy target, which means i think he committed crime. if once he is charged, he has something to answer, it could be brought in. if they have enough evidence to charge him with serious charges then he is a worthy target in and of him. >> it is a high bar to get a search warrant for a lawyer. even a higher bar to get a search warrant for the president's personal lawyer. they had to go up to rod

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it's time now for the lid, the panel is back. let's talk about scott pruitt. at my 2:00 p.m. show, we like to do a block whenever we have a chance because the allegations are so ridiculous. there is the bulletproof desk and the bulletproof car and the soundproof booth and now we're learning that the $50 a night stay that ethhe had at the lobbyist's house. he said he didn't meet with the

lob byist while he was staying there, well, now we know that he did meet with the lobbyist. it how can someone lie about that and get away with it because it's a big deal? >> you know president trump is the scot-free president. he's someone who's clearly been something of a grifter for his career, he managed to buy into a home when he was mayor of new york city. that guy works at the epa now, the bank that gave him a mortgage, that guy's been in the epa now. he's a grifter all along. so he comes in with a basic habit of doing what he's doing, and he's under greater scrutiny now. so he's not getting away with it. >> he's also just very lucky

with the timing of all this. how many cabinet positions can they put in front of the senate that they have to fill. i think that's the only thing that's saving him right now. they have three or four very significant appointments they have to make, and you're simply saying for right now, he's at the bottom, now when the ads start coming out, he becomes more of a public liability, because if you want to mow what the swamp looks like, it's pruitt, there's no doubt about it. then you may see more action taking place. but we have got to fill a couple of other posts, then he'll get it. >> the allegations are mounting, and it not just improper behavior, he's spending a lot of taxpayer money, he's careless with the money we are paying him with. it's a lot of money when it comes to the flights, the first class travel, the retrofitting of his car, the bulletproof

office. >> and that's only what we knew about. >> joni earnrnst is calling him out, you got to be more frugal than that. although reviewing the allegations, pruitt had done a good job of implementing the president's policies. so is it all about rolling back regulations? >> that's part of the party for me, as a democrat but also someone who cares be it the environment. you have someone wasting money for soundproof booths, and going all around the country. we're also in a moment where climate change is a very important issue. we had puerto rico lose power over the weekend, bigger storms, more severe storms, those are directly caused by climate change, if you believe in science, unlike this administration. i think it's a bigger story than just about the corruption. i think that's an important piece of it and it does go in

line with the characteristics of this administration. but it also goes to a larger point about the fact that he has said that climate change might be a good thing, so perhaps he's completely unqualified to be the epa chief, because of the issues that he's task with the the issue that he's taking care of. >> the man that would take over if they ousted him would think the same way? >> they just introduced him as the deputy. so they will continue to be implementing policies. it's interesting to think that anybody who's going to be in that job implementing trump's policies. because pruitt is somebody who's become so radioactive, he's something that democrats really want to get rid of. he likes to be kind of be fighting with anybody. and pruitt is a convenient person for him to get behind in terms of him getting the policy. we saw tom price ousted for far

less money and far less corruption. >> and even though he did that ed henry interview where he came out horribly with fox, he never said he did anything wrong, and that's one thing that works with trump. >> that's really enough. and susan, ladies, ladies night, thanks very much. ahead, serious trash talk. vo: gopi's found a way to keep her receipts tidy,

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in case you missed it, sunday was earth day and this year earth day was focused on ending plastic pollution, like the massive garbage patch in the middle of the pacific ocean which is increasing exponenti exponentially. it the floati ining mounds of plastic now cover an area the side of france. that's the bad news, but here's some good news. scientists have stumbled on a so-callso oe kaul so-called mutant enzyme that will break down plastic, far faster than the centurieies it will take in the ocean. it also paves the way for a hot new monster movie this summer. >> attack of the plastic eating mutant enzyme. >> they should make it in 3-d so senator hatch can use his

environmentally friendly invisible 3-d glasses. and scientists who discovered this thing, thank you. we'll be back tomorrow with more "mtp daily." ari, i have four words for you, just four words, plastic eating mutant enzyme. >> i just want to know if you're wearing 3-d glasses right now. >> i can't see anything now though. come on, it's a mrs. robinson joke. get with the program. >> plastics. >> now there's enzymes that could potentially eat the plastics in the oceans of the world. >> i like