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other, it's a -- it's the greatest heartbreak that anyone can ever experience, i think. >> that's all for this edition of "dateline: extra." i'm craig melvin. thank you for watching. due to mature subject matter, viewer discretion is advised. damn somebody got clocked. >> a jailhouse assault leads to one bloody inmate. >> who swung? who swung first? >> i didn't swing at all, he the one swung on me. >> and two sides to the story. >> we both swung on each other. mine's hit, his hit. mine's affecting him more that's all.
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>> in this picture you can see mr. green running down the street escaping from our facility. >> an inmate makes a daring escape. >> he did the escape like you would see in a movie by riding out on one of the trucks. >> i ain't gonna lie. he was stealing. i stabbed his ass as many times as i could. >> and one of the jail's most violent inmates decides it's time for a change. >> if i don't make a transformation in my life at this point i'm going end up dead. >> but will it work? >> i'm at my breaking point. i've been trying hardest. this ain't real man. some hard ass [ bleep ]. cincinnati, ohio was an
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early american boom town, but it's seen its ups and downs over the years. and just like any big city, crime is an issue in boom times or bust. and if you are arrested in cincinnati, you most likely end up spending some time at the hamilton county justice center. >> be home soon, baby. >> most of the 1,300 men and women incarcerated here are only accused of crimes and are awaiting trial and the resolution of their cases. but if any of them break the rules here, they will end up in the disciplinary segregation unit, sometimes referred to as the hole. >> this is the hole. we have people down here for fighting, people down here for stealing. >> inmates here lose all their privileges, including visitation and must spend 23 hours a day in the single-person cell with one hour to use the shower a day or call on phones. but even in such a tightly controlled area, violence can still erupt. >> we had a signal 9 where two
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inmates were fighting. >> somebody got clocked. >> hard to tell you all what happened. i can't believe this, man. i was trying to stay out of trouble because i was about to be out of lockdown. >> the inmates involved are giovanni harris and dillon thompson. they were both in the day room during the one hour they are allowed outside of their cells. >> we have 16 cells on the bottom and 16 on top. we only have eight hours in our shift. which means -- doing the math it doesn't add up. we have to double up if we are going to get everybody out. >> harris is in jail on charges of menacing while stalking and harassing. to which has pled not guilty. he's in segregation for arguing with an officer. and the inmate with thompson seems to have started with argument as well. >> i was just out for for an hour. and he was on the phone. i go in. i was just saying on the phone i got to talk with my public defender. >> he on it for like 30, 40 minutes.
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he come down stairs, i ain't paying no attention. he just swing at me, hit me a couple times. >> who swung? >> i didn't swing at all. he the one swung on me. a straight assault. like that's crazy, man. >> what were you doing? what were you doing when he came down? >> i was facing the door trying to ask the co. i'm faced towards the door. talking to the c.o.s. >> and he came up and hit you? >> yeah. >> as the jail investigator, my responsibility is to find out all of the facts of what occurred. it come across the radio as a signal nine, which is an inmate fight. turned out maybe it's not. it may be an assault here. >> thompson who's 20 days away from completing a six-month sentence for heroin possession is in segregation for a previous fight. but he says he was not the aggressor then or now. and that he had already hung up the phone and gone upstairs when harris began assaulting him. >> i came down stairs and said you gonna be like that. as soon as i came down the steps he swung. so i clocked him. that was it.
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i only clocked him one time. that was it. one punch. that's it. >> stand up. >> it was all over the phone. no this came from another incident. this dry. this came from the other -- when the dude like -- when he took my peanut butter off my tray, i clocked him too. >> [inaudible]. >> people keep trying me. i have to defend myself. >> trying to find out who the aggressor is here. you want to make sure you place disciplinary action on the right individual. and by talking to both individuals it was totally opposite stories on both sides. so we felt it was necessary to go ahead and find some witnesses that could corroborate what the victim was stating to us. >> the other gentlemen came over here to complain about mr. thompson talking on the phone too much. mr. thompson caught wind of that, came running down the steps. by the time i got out here mr. thompson was backing away towards the back. and mr. harris had blood all over himself.
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>> what did you see? >> it appeared the two of them were in an argument. he came running down the steps and started swinging on the other individual from what i could see. >> so let me ask you a question. do you think thompson assaulted the other inmate? >> yes. from what i could see, it appeared that thompson was the aggressor. >> i'll get you that bag of ice. >> harris and thompson are placed in separate disciplinary units until the investigation is complete and officers have determined what charges, if any, will be filed. >> the difference between charges is in-house charges are disciplinary sanctions within the facility. opposed to criminal charges, which you have to take to the courts outside of the facility. if we can find out if it was an assault that occurred by mr. thompson, then we'll push forward and file criminal charges against him. >> little shaky about it. if they are going to press charges or not. i don't know. >> you worried about that? >> i'm, very worried about it. i don't need another case on me. because for what? me defending myself?
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>> alone in his new cell, thompson was more candid about how many times he struck harris, in what he calls self defense. >> how many times did you hit him? >> i hit him possibly probably like four times. hit him a couple of times and then i stopped. that's when the cos came in. and i thought i got to defend myself. i can't let a man play me. don't play me or get played. >> if he was already laying down, how are you defending yourself? >> put him to sleep. boom, he went to sleep. i'm going to crack you a couple of more times. just because you tried to play me. you put yourself in this predicament. you wear the shoes. you fit them. you bought them. they're yours. so i gave him what he was looking for. now you understand. >> coming up -- >> if i knew this was going to be like this -- >> the fight investigation leads to more trouble for dillon thompson. >> you have the right to remain silent. anything you say can be used against you in a court of law. >> and -- >> they got me housed in administrative segregation for stabbing an inmate. >> one of the jail's most
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like many urban jails, cincinnati's hamilton county justice center is located in the heart of downtown. the top floor of this five-story tower might be considered the penthouse suite in any other building. but here it is reserved for the jail's most dangerous inmates. >> this is the fifth floor. the highest floor in the jail. maximum security is up here. >> we on the fifth floor with nothing but the hard hitters. nothing but the hard hitters. killers. >> one unit on the fifth floor houses inmates considered too dangerous for general population. it is known as administrative segregation, or ad seg. mark hinkston has been here for the past seven months. >> i'm one of the most hated people in this whole institution.
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in fact they don't even allow me off of this pod. they got me housed in administrative segregation for stabbing an inmate around seven months ago. >> he just got into it with another inmate. he charged the inmate and stabbed him in the back about three times. >> hinkston was angry because the inmate had stolen his potato chips. >> i punched him. but i didn't feel that that inflicted enough injury upon him for the crime that he committed against me. so i had two long pencils. and i went and sharpened them. and i came back to the cell and i started stabbing him. >> another incident, he was in the cell and ripped off a corner
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bead of the room, which he made into a shank. >> he's a threat to staff simply because we don't know from one day to the next what his demeanor is going to be. he has shown spurts of violence. in an instant he can go to just a ball of rage. >> while he's incarcerated here, at the hamilton county justice center, he will be on administrative segregation because he cannot get along with the general population. can't get along with staff members. can't get along with anybody. >> he is a ticking time bomb. at some point something is going to push him over the edge to where there will be a burst of violence. >> hinkston has pled not guilty to all of his current charges, which include trafficking of both cocaine and heroin, ullegally carrying a firearm and felonious assault for allegedly shooting a man twice in the chest.
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>> this is something i am capable of doing. this is something i have done in the past. i did five years for felonious assault where an individual was shot in the chest. where i shot him in the chest. this is something i'm very much capable of doing. but i didn't do this. >> in addition to having served five years in prison for the felonious assault, he previously served another five-year sentence in prison for robbery. and he says his criminal history goes all the way back to age 11 when he was jumped and assaulted by neighborhood kids because of the light color of his skin. >> they ganged up on me and jumped me. i felt that that was something i couldn't accept, in my young life. >> hinkston says he went home and got a .22 caliber pistol. >> i took that .22 resvolver bak
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to that park and i seen these children that jumped me, and i began to shoot at them. although i didn't hit any of them, i was shortly captured by police officers. >> hinkston believes he's only been made worse by incarceration. >> i believe the administrative segregation makes you extra ultra aggressive due to the fact that if they cage you like a animal, you will be subject to act like a animal. when you create a condition where people is being governed by you and you excessively oppress them people, they will eventually rise up against you. >> having overheard his philosophy, 23-year veteran sergeant moore felt the need to interject. >> how old are you? >> 32. >> you got that old jail logic. that's why i asked you that. >> how you say i got old jail logic? >> because you been doing this since you were 11 years old.
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>> mr. hinkston has been coming here since he was a juvenile. i always conversate with the inmates because i know every one has a story and there is a reason why people keep coming to jail. the food here isn't that great. the officers aren't that great. so why are you continuously coming here? >> what you think this cell doing to me? i been in here going crazy. >> i believe it. but what got you inside that cell? what got you inside this facility? what makes you go out and commit another crime to get incarcerated again after serving time for five years? >> i never committed any crime. >> so you been innocent every time? >> i'm innocent this time. >> i said every time. do you know what i call the definition of crazy? >> what? >> when you keep trying to do the same thing over and over again and you get the same result and it's not positive, that's crazy. >> all right. >> so you need to change something in your life. >> i -- i'm forced to stay here.
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against my will. if they let me go today, i'll walk out the door and never look back. >> how many times have you said that? >> once. just now. [ laughter ] >> i find that hard to believe. don't [ bleep ] me. don't [ bleep ] me. you can't even say it with a straight face. don't [ bleep ] me. how many times have you said that? be honest with yourself. >> never. >> of course there's hope for him. there's hope for everyone. but he has to want the help. he has to want to change. he has to figure out what's wrong in his life that he keeps making these bad choices. >> what choices in life are you going to make not to get incarcerated again? >> coming up mark hinkston becomes an author. >> i started writing this book to have something positive to occupy my time. >> i plunged the crocodile
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dundee knife into his right thigh. >> and -- >> he grabbed onto the bottom of the truck and held on while the truck was leaving the facility. >> another inmate recounts his daring escape. >> i rolled up under the truck. took off booking. ♪[upbeat music]
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at cincinnati's hamilton county justice center, inmates who are considered too dangerous to be in general population are housed in a unit known as administrative segregation or ad seg. but paul green is here for another reason. >> i'm in segregation a-pod because i escaped. i escaped because i felt like any human shouldn't be in this circumstance. i feel like if you put your pants on the same way i do, you put a shirt on the same way i do, you shouldn't tell me what's right or wrong. i believe in universal laws. if your stomach hurting real bad to the point you're starving,
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it's okay to go ahead and take a bag of chips. i feel like we should follow universal laws, not you follow man laws. >> six months earlier, green found himself in trouble with those laws when he was arrested on two counts of burglary, to which he pled not guilty. as a minimum security non-violent offender, he qualifiedfor one of the jail's premium work details in the kitchen. >> i was planning an escape like two and a half, two weeks. i was just basically studying the people. studying the body language and what they like to do. >> green seized an opportunity when an officer was momentarily distracted on the kitchen loading dock. >> one of our trucks was inside the loading docks of the facility. he grabbed onto the bottom of the truck and held on while the truck was leaving the facility through two secured gates. >> i was hanging under there. but i didn't realize that the thing would be twisted like that. it starts twisting, twisting, twisting. so i waited till he stopped and
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i rolled out from under the truck and took off booking. heart pounding and pounding. ripped off my apron. threw it. took off running and stuff. >> and in this particular picture, you can see mr. green running down the street escaping from our facility. >> with the help of information gathered from green's cell police officers located green in a friend's apartment building. >> police came knocking on the door and i went to the back. and they put a gun to my face. don't move. we'll shoot you. that's how they caught me. >> inmate green was recovered in the bathroom in the back of the department laying in the tub in the fetal position. he was gone from the jail for approximately two, two and a half hours. so it was actually a quick, quick apprehension. >> green was returned to the jail and charged with escape to which he pled guilty. he was sentenced to three years in prison. because that was more time than he would have received if convicted of his burglary charges, prosecutors did not pursue the case. >> so i'm going to prison.
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>> do you regret it? >> no. no regret at all. i would be up out of here if it wasn't for the escape. at the same time i'm learning a lot while i'm in here. i'm talking to the most intelligent people i ever met. i feel like it was kind of a blessing in a way to get my intelligence level and up and get me more bigger and more smarter, you know. >> he said other inmates in his ad seg unit have helped in his quest for knowledge. >> i come in here and i still didn't know how to read all the way. so what i did was, i went downstairs and talked to my boy mark. he said read the dictionary. now i've read over like 40, 50 books since i been here. he says that knowledge is the foundation of all things in existence. know what i'm saying? that's very true. you know what i'm saying? without knowledge you would be nothing. >> the inmate who's had such an impact on green is mark hinkston. >> you're always exercising. stay militant. stay militant man.
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when i say militant, i mean belligerent, waging war against those that's trying to oppress you, brother. >> exactly. >> i'm not looking for individuals to advise, man. they come to me and i just -- once you come into my gravitational pull, i have no other choice but to acknowledge you. >> he's a smart guy. taught me a lot. that's why i say he's my spiritual coach. >> you will have an opportunity to read the koran. that is something you should actually read, man, as well as the autobiography of malcolm x, by alex haley, too, brother. paul green is on a journey at this point in time. and the journey that he is on is a downward spiral. once you get trapped in the system, they tend to recycle us. so i refer him to these books to put some sound principles in his mind.
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and hopefully motivate him to fight the good fight. life is a battle. i mean, we came out of our father's scrotum and went into our mother's womb. it was us amongst thousands of other sperm cells fighting in a hostile environment. and we won that battle. that was our first battle of life. >> hinkston says he's been fighting his own battle to change the behavior that's kept him incarcerated most of the past 13 years. >> i believe if i don't make a transformation in my life at this point that i'm going to end up dead. so this transformation is essential for my being. i'm working on a book. the reason i started writing this book is to basically have something positive to occupy my time. it's a fictional story. it's a work of fiction. >> it's called "freedom of death."
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and i'm writing these books so that i could create a vehicle for revenue while i'm on the street so i could have more room to do things for the community, like set up housing for low-income people. maybe even try to renovate a park for the youth. i believe that the youth is our future, and i believe that they need nourishment. >> the subject matter of hundred --- hinkston's book is not exactly g-rated. >> i'm going read this scene for you. it's about an individual being tortured for violating the code, man. so rico muttered, trying to come to terms with his current reality after i smacked him into consciousness. surprise, surprise [ bleep ], welcome to my torture chamber.
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>> i don't want to say it's me, i've done these acts that's being committed in this book, but the main character has been fashioned after myself. >> i plunged the crocodile dundee knife into his right thigh. he screamed out in pain, shut the [ bleep ], [ bleep ]. i taunted him. so i would say it feels good man. when i set down and i'm writing, i feel like a author. >> by the time i was done, all his front teeth had been knocked out via hammer. the parts of his feet that protruded from his ankles were hacked off. all of his fingers were broken and snatched out of socket. >> could have been more brutal. >> could have been more brutal? >> there's always more brutal. >> coming up -- >> do you get it?
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>> paul green tries to prepare for his time in prison. >> how about now? >> he stinks. he's never -- never hit it. >> and another inmate in the ad seg unit contemplates his potential prison sentence. >> i killed somebody. i do deserve to go to prison. but not for the rest of my life.
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when paul green looks out the window of his cell inside the hamilton county justice center in cincinnati, he sees a reminder of what could have been. he is one of the few inmates who managed to escape from the facility. >> they put me in this cell, exactly the view that i escaped from. that's ironic. but like, i came from the horseshoe. i came this way. went across the street. up the bridge right there, around the bridge. took off back there and went up that big [ bleep ] hill. and ran off. i looked and i said damn, why they didn't catch me? >> green was captured after two hours outside the facility and transferred to his fifth floor administrative segregation cell. despite his high security surroundings, green says he still escapes the jail every day in his mind. >> i meditate sometimes. astral project.
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i feel like when i meditate i'm not here no more. i'm locked down 23 hours a day but between 8:00 all the way up to 7:00 i'm not here. i'm gone, walking around. astral projection is a state of meditation so you can leave out the body. know what i'm saying? you work on your chakras to leave out the body and walking around. that's called astral projection. walk around the park, sound crazy, but this is real. i walk around the pod. if not that, i'll float outside walking around. >> how did you find out about astral projection? is that inside here? is that something you practiced on the outside? >> when i was on the street is when i learned about it. that's when i was practicing with my friends and stuff. we do it all the time. a lot of people people be like, let's go play basketball. let's go to this. but on the street i learned let's go meditate. know what i'm saying? but you got to master time and conquer space. people see with their two eyes
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and two ears. they don't use their sixth sense. >> so that's what you do? >> yeah, i look at things from a different level. >> green will soon be transferred to prison to begin his three-year sentence for escape. >> i never been to prison. it's going to be a first time thing. but i think i'll meet more intelligent guys and learn more things. so i'm not worried about it. >> rather than wait for his education to begin he's enlisted his neighbor, fred mitchell, to teach him one of prison's time-honored pastimes. teaching him fishing. >> throw me a hook really quick. a fishing line. >> i learned how to fish from an old-timer. he taught me how and i've been using it ever since. we can't get to each other. we can't pass things off as easily as -- that's basically all it is, just to get one thing from one person to another. >> i got to teach you how to do that, man. you need practice. >> that's as close as we get to each other in admin seg.
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that's as close as we get to physical contact with each other. >> got it? hey, is it over there? can you get it? >> no, i can't get it. >> how about now? >> no. paul just can't fish. that's not his thing. he's no good. he stinks. it's not his thing. i tried to teach him. he never -- never hit it. >> is it over there? >> no, man, i can't see it. >> i got hope for him. he's a smart kid. maybe with enough practice he'll figure it out up in prison. >> i give up, man. >> green may not be at mitchell's level when it comes to fishing, but mitchell does acknowledge that green achieved something he never did. >> i got put in here the because of escape. attempted escape. had about 75 foot of rope and the password to the weight room -- the officer weight room in the gymnasium.
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i was going to get a big free weight, throw it up against the window. and i was gone, man. but they searched us and found everything. >> fred mitchell has tried to escape three different times. he actually had 75 feet of rope which is pretty impressive. there is an officer gym room with free weights. he said he had codes to the door but the code changes i believe once a month so the likelihood of actually being able to get into that room are slim to none. he also tried digging out the caulking in between the cinder blocks, which didn't go very far. he gets as creative as he possibly can. >> why did you want to escape so bad? >> the prospect of life in prison. i'm charged with murder, for the death of an infant. my ex-girlfriend's baby. she was staying with me at the time. and they say that i threw him up against the wall. and i didn't hurt that baby on purpose. it was an accident. >> mitchell has pled not guilty. >> what do you feel like you deserve? do you feel like you deserve prison time?
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>> i mean, yeah. i killed somebody. accident or not. i killed somebody. i do deserve to go to prison. but not for the rest of my life. my lawyer just kept pounding it into me. life in prison. every time he would see me, life. what am i looking at? life. phew. i mean, i think if anybody were in my situation, escape would seem like a good idea. i haven't stopped. they will never stop me. >> stop you trying to escape? >> yeah. >> one of these days i'll get out, too. >> dillon thompson was only 20 days from getting out of jail after serving six months for heroin possession. but then he became involved in a conflict that left inmate giovanni harris covered in blood. >> according to the witnesses, inmate thompson hit harris,
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knocked him to the ground and continued to strike him when he was on the ground. >> thompson was given ten days in administrative seg gregation but now he faces more time in jail because harris has decided to file a criminal assault charge against him. >> it just sounds like ought to do it. take you serious. i could have died in here or something. >> right now we're going to get inmate thompson. these are outside charges. so i'm going to pull him into the office and read him his rights and then get his side of the story. >> what am i getting? another charge? >> we'll talk about it in a second. you have the right to remain silent. anything you say can be used against you in a court of law. you understand these rights? just need you to sign right here for me. you're still saying it's a fight? it was a fight? >> yeah, i didn't use no weapons or nothing. >> i'm not saying anything about
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weapons. >> he swung at me. i just defended myself. i knew all this was going to be like this, i wouldn't even fought dude. >> i have two witnesses that said you swung on him first. >> we both swing on each other. mine head and his head. mine just affecting him a little more. that's all. >> i'm going to have you write your statement down for me, okay? >> what is it a felony? >> misdemeanor one. >> and i supposed to be getting out in a couple days. >> you got to learn -- you got to learn how to keep your cool while you're in here, man. i understand it's hard. so you don't get other charges added on to you. >> i don't understand how he could press charges on me when he started it? i don't get it. i ain't never been in no punishment for fighting nobody like that. i ain't kill that man or nothing. we just fought. he got a couple bruises, i didn't. >> coming up, mark hinkston
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loses a friend on the pod. >> i had a camaraderie with him. with him being gone, it just lessened the individuals that i communicate with. >> and makes some enemies as well. >> a guy came down here and had a bottle full of [ bleep ] that he done liquefied and sprayed it in my cell, right. hey grandpa. hey, kid. really good to see you. you too. you tell grandma you were going fishing again? maybe. (vo) the best things in life keep going. that's why i got a subaru, too. love is out there. find it in a subaru crosstrek.
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when you an inmate you dress like i'm dressed. if not, you're going to disrespect me. i don't like that. some people take my weakness for kindness and you are not going to disrespect me at all. point-blank you are not. >> it is possible inmate thompson has been in 15 fights, but we only have four recorded incidents. >> thompson's latest conflict with giovanni harris carried more serious consequences than others. not only did thompson receive ten days in disciplinary segregation but harris decided to file a criminal assault charge that could potentially extend thompson's stay. and the jail decided to place thompson in the long-term segregation unit known as ad seg to keep him away from population. >> i think admin seg is a great place for someone like thompson, especially after he told us the story about him getting in a fight with someone else previously over peanut butter. i don't think he can cope well with the general population.
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>> i'm kind of glad they did put me in ad seg. i have a lot more self-control than last time. if i would have stayed in population i probably would have had a fight because of who i am. i can't let nobody play me or disrespect me in no way shape or form. so yeah, i probably would have fought again probably. everything is a choice. that's what i been reading in this bible. i need to change my ways, change my thinking, critical thinking, everything. >> is that easier said than done? is it going to be hard? >> it's going to be a hard thing to process. because i ain't never thought about it like that. i have to find something. something. i don't know. i ain't figured it out yet. >> yeah, this is the terror zone right here. this is what i do all day, man. >> mark hinkston says he's been trying to change his behavior as well. he's written a book and has been advising younger inmates on the unit, like paul green. but now green has been transferred to state prison to serve time for an escape conviction. >> before he left off the pod he came to my door and knocked.
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and i spoke with him. basically gave him some words of wisdom. something to go off on. something to think about on his journey. he a bright guy. so that's why i had a camaraderie with him. you still young, brother. you 19. you got your whole life ahead of you. you can do anything you want to do. you can be anything you want to be. him being gone, it just lessened the individuals that i communicate with. >> now that list has gotten even shorter. hinkston said he recently read the court newspaper and found out new information about one of his fellow inmates in administrative segregation. >> fred, the dude killed a little baby, man. i found out he killed an infant. when i found out about that, we can no longer be associates, man. because what type of man would i be to associate myself with a
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[ bleep ] like that? >> these are charges. nothing has been proven. but i mean hinkston has his opinions and he sticks by them. really he's just a big bully. and he's in here terrorizing people. that's what he does, i guess. that's what he's good at. >> coming up, things get messier in the ad seg unit. >> one of the other inmates threw feces in his cell. it was pretty terrible actually. he had feces all over him. all over the room. all over the walls. it was everywhere. >> mark hinkston reaches the breaking point. >> y'all keeping me in this [ bleep ]. y'all playing with me, bro. i'm been trying my hardest. my [ bleep ]. i'm telling you -- >> i done told you you don't talk to me like that.
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at the hamilton county
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justice center, mark hinkston has been in the administrative segregation unit for nearly eight months after stabbing another inmate. but now it's hinkston who's been attacked. >> i had my cell door shut. although our chutes was open. and as i'm watching the tv, a guy came down here and had a bottle full of [bleep] that he donely done liqiufied and sprayed it in my cell, man. >> one of the inmates threw feces in his cell. it was pretty terribly actually. he had feces all over him. all over the room. all over the walls. it was everywhere. >> i basically stood here with the [ bleep ] on me. and once they seen that i had [ bleep ] all over me and [ bleep ] all in my cell. the sergeant came up here and told them to let me take shower. >> hinkston wouldn't tell us who it was, but that's pretty much their code. if we don't catch them in the act, they are not going to tell us.
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so we have to investigate and find who did it. >> officers quickly identified a prime suspect. >> nobody saw the incident occur but since mitchell was the only person out on his hour out, he was the only possibility. there was nobody else out in the pod and nobody else was allowed out in the pod. >> mitchell was given ten days of disciplinary sanctions. >> here's your copy of it. >> what you wrote me up for? spit or defect or urinate anywhere other than the toilet. i sprayed the [ bleep ] out of him. he thinks he can intimidate us all. he thinks he's the don of the pod. he's disrespectful to everybody. not just me. >> mitchell says another inmate gave him a bottle filled with feces to spray on hinkston. >> i grabbed the bottle and ran up on him. and i said [bleep]. after i got him once, he thought i was done so he backed up. like, oh really? for real? i stuck the whole thing up
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there. phew. got it all over his face. all up in his hair. it was a nasty spectacle. looked like chocolate milk, man. >> yeah, hinkston got what was coming to him. >> these are the things we have to go through in this administrative seg block. this [ bleep ] ain't breaking me. i'm standing strong. i feel like if we was in a jungle, i would be a lion and they would be hyenas, man. you feel me? it's gonna take a pack of hyenas to deal with a lion. >> a t>> after the incident, lieutenant reed decided it was time to shake up the unit. >> fred mitchell has many "keep separates," and therefore he just can't be moved everywhere or anywhere. so i decided that it would be better to get hinkston out of there.
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>> why should i have to move? >> because you got problems. >> i been here. >> that don't mean you can't be moved. >> for what? >> we're not going to have this mess going on up here, poop in the doors. i'm not having it. for nobody up here. i will separate every one. you. because every time you get together everybody got to prove they're the man of everything around here. and you're not. >> they threw [ bleep ] and damn every one of them white boys get in trouble. man, i'm telling you man. y'all keeping me over here with these pedophile [bleep]. y'all playing with me, bro. i've been trying my hardest my [ bleep ] i'm telling -- >> i done told you you don't talk to me like that. >> i'm at my breaking point [ bleep ] >> i'll move you and you won't have that problem. >> listen, this is -- >>ul move you away and you won't have that problem. >> you're gonna move me away? >> you want to stay up here so you can keep the commotion going, is that what you're
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saying? >> it ain't got nothing to do with me. >> if they throwing stuff at you, it's got something to do with you. i'm telling you what's going to happen here. i'm telling you what's going on. you are going to be moved this evening. you are going to come out of this pod. you've been up here too long. it's time for a change. >> he's been in that unit entirely too long. after they're there for months, they seem to believe that they run everybody that comes up there. so he was like trying to be the pod boss. and i guess it back fired and some people didn't like it. and so they retaliated by throwing feces on him. he's been on this pod for months and it was time for a move. i stand my ground. he's moving. it doesn't matter what he says, how he says it or when he says it. >> [ inmate yelling ] [ bleep ]. that whole side is child molesters, bro. [ bleep ] what kind of block is this, man?
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>> same kind of block you just came from. >> this is the administration segregation block? >> yes, sir. >> [ bleep ] in my cell, and they move me over here, man. >> hopefully he calms down. i mean, if we have to deal with him, we will. him being happy is not a high priority. the security of the facility is a high priority. the fact we got him out of that situation that he was in and down here where hopefully it's going to be a little quieter, that's what we're worried about. we're not really worried about him being happy. >> this ain't real man. this some hard [ bleep ]. >> fred mitchell was not moved off the unit but was given ten days of the disciplinary segregation, during which he will not receive phone, commissary or visiting privileges. but he is still allowed an hour
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outside of his cell each day. and today he uses that time to savor his victory. >> feels good looking in that empty cell. knowing mark hinkston ain't in there no more, [ bleep ] and complaining all day. >> worth lock-in time? >> it was worth ten days. it's a relief to see him gone. >> but according to hinkston the matter is far from settled. >> believe me, retaliation is a must, man. that is really the reason i'm salty, man. because i really wanted my retaliation. listen, i'm in here for stabbing a [ bleep ]. i ain't gonna lie. he was stealing from me, i stabbed his ass as many times as i could. so if you give me a chance at any given time, at any given one of these [bleep], man, what you think i'm gonna do? i'm gonna try to murder one of these [ bleep ]. feeling me?
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bottom line is we gonna see each other again, man. whether in here or in prison. when we see each other again, i promise to you i'm gonna wipe the smile off of all their faces.
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just pulled that out of there. >> a jail shakedown recovers a huge stash of contraband. >> this might be a first more me. >> me and my boyfriend were out one night and whatever he did is what landed us in here. >> a young couple is charged where robbery and murder. >> i know what i did and did not do.

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