before we g. it's been exactly one year since jim comey was fired and exactly one year since this show came on the area. thank you to the amazing journalists and guest who fill up this table every day. thank you for watching. that does it for us. i will "mtp daily" starts right now. >> i was in your neck of the woods, beautiful northern california yesterday. >> isn't it nice. >> very nice. they love their warriors. >> we do. and we wouldn't and that's why i'm so tired. understand. >> are we going to have that thing again with the cavs. >> we are. i'm all lebron. >> get ready to go down. you are going down. >> my man crush has only gotten greater with lebron. i will admit it. >> mine is seven guys wide. >> fair enough. thank you. if it's wednesday, is bob mueller now following the money? tonight michael cohen's cash flow, and the russia connection. >> michael cohen appears to be selling access to the president

of the united states. >> his document is inaccurate. plus, haspel in the hot seat. >> senator, my moral come pass is strong. >> did the cia chief nominee offer enough clarity on the use of torture techniques. >> i'm not at all satisfied with what has been offered. >> i think she did a great job. i really do. >> and later, the primary wreck obing. a bad night if your first name is congressman. this is "mtp daily," and it starts right now. ♪ good evening. i'm chuck todd here in washington. welcome to "mtp daily." we begin tonight with a simple question. why did a russian linked company deposit $500,000 into the bank account michael cohen used to pay off standard? because it could be that michael cohen's money trail is the key

to understanding the russia probe. stormy daniels's attorney, michael avenatti has put out this explosive allegation suggesting that a russian oligarch gave cohen the money he needed to pay off stormy daniels. avenatti published a document claiming that a billionaire energy tycoon used a company to funnel hundreds of thousands of dollars to a shell company called essential consultants, which cohen, if you recall, created just days before he used a bank account in its name to pay off stormy daniels. columbus nova says they are not controlled by vekselberg. they weren't used as a conduit for payments to cohen, and the money they did pay him for his services as a business consultant on investments and real estate. that's what they say. here's where things get more interesting. because they are not the only one who sought the services of the president' personal attorney. we now know that companies like at&t and novartis also paid cohen's firm. they say they retained him to

help them navigate the trump administration. if you think the whole money trail hasn't been on bob mueller's radar for months you are wrong n. a statement, novartis said they were contacted six months ago about the company's agreement with cohen and at the time they gave mueller all the investigation he wanted. we didn't know anything about essential consultants in the public domain in november 2017. since then, the fbi went into michael cohen's offices and essentially -- with a court order took a bunch of material. they have monitored his phone conversations for months, and federal prosecutors have opened a criminal investigation into his business dealings. today cohen pushed back against the foundation of avenatti's claims about his business. >> any comment about michael avenatti? any response? any response to michael avenatti. >> his document is inaccurate. >> when we first saw avenatti's

claims we were skeptical, too. but nbc has reviewed the documents that do appear to support his account of cohen's financial transactions. amid the twists and turns of the russia saga it is amazing how many roads all end up leading back to michael cohen. whether it is reports of cohen seeking a deal on trump tower in moscow during the campaign or as the back channel for a russian backed evident to get flynn to lift sanction. or the dossier that cohen is one who met -- or these latest allegations about his finance. it could simply be the case that cohen ends up being a series of dead-ends in the russia probe. or could it be that he end up being the skeleton key that unlocks everything? as the president him might say, we'll see. joining me, a former fbi senior circumstantial including a stint as counsellor to bob mueller.

welcome. >> thank you. >> so, what mr. avenatti gave out, sort of leaked out, however you want to call it, it appears to be something that a federal prosecutor would have had, which is a suspicious transaction order, the treasury department report about suspicious activities regarding michael cohen. ande it end up in michael avenatti's hands and it leaks out. legal? >> probably, unless he is under a court order not to disclose those kinds of things. i don't think that's a violation of law. it may be for the person who gave it to him of the it's probably not for him. >> what is bob mueller thinking today, that michael avenatti is suddenly, shall we say raised the profile of all things avenatti, but now cohen and russia and mueller? >> let me tell you how prosecutors would think about this. when i was a prosecutor, here's what i wanted from my witnesses. i on the with aed them to be truthful. i wanted them to be consistent. and i wanted them to stay out of the public limelight. investigations -- you have seen

this from the mueller team -- run underneath the surface. every now and then the subsurfaces you see an indictment or a search warrant or a plea agreement. buy at all other times they are beneath the surface. we don't want witnesses leaking statements and don't want information leaked to the press. bob mueller cannot be happy about it. >> you know this world well. you know how cases like this work. i know you can't guarantee there haven't been leaks but how confident are you that leaks out of mueller world have been either zero to minimum? >> very confident. i worked for the man. i know a number of people on his team. i would find it very, very difficult to believe -- not improblem but very, very difficult to believe that that's the source of these leaks. >> it's interesting that you use the submarine metaphor here that we don't know where the mueller sub is at any given time and all of a sudden it pops up. and you are like george papadopoulos, who is that? and then everybody learns who he

is. you brought up the indictments of the russian trolls. we didn't know that was coming. today we learned something new, which was when, how early at least for now, on the public record how early michael cohen was on the radar of bob mueller. novartis in their statement said they talked with mueller in november. already, what is interesting here, the first time we heard the name essential consultants was january of 2018 in a "wall street journal" report about the standard payoff. now ear back to november. i know we don't know what we don't know from mueller world but every day we learn something more. >> i would add something. the mueller team didn't contact novartis on the very same day the mueller team learned about novartis. they inevitably had a subpoena out for documents. >> probably weeks. >> weeks if not months. >> keep going backwards. >> we don't know how far but keep going backwards. novartis is when novartis found out it was on the radar.

>> at&t said the first of this year. and we don't know about the korean air company or exact dates of this. although they did question the russian tycoon when he was starting to come in. let me ask you about bob mueller's philosophy as a prosecutor -- james comey said this, there is a pint in an investigation where you think you know where it's headed. you don't know for sure it's going to end up in either, not prosecuting -- but you feel like boy i think we know where we are headed here. if he knew we were headed to a dead-end and even if it was going to take three months to prove that, would he be giving off that hint, would he still be doing this or making sure people knew there was no there there. >> he would folg follow logical leads and when that's done he would shut it down. for instance, chuck, the search warrant on michael cohen's office and residence was a month or so ago, give or take.

that's not for fun. that's not for giggles and grins. the mueller team had something. in this case, probable cause to believe a crime had been commit examined that they would find evidence of that crime in those cases. there is a viable case there, and that's that they are doing. following logical leads. >> let me ask you this now, concerning everything more that we are learning about the time line about when cohen got on the radar and you compare that to when the raid -- the search took place, excuse me, of his offices. is michael cohen the last act of the investigative part, perhaps. of the evidence gathering part of mueller? would it surprise you if we end up learning that that was the last act of the investigator phase? >> it would surprise me if this was the last act of it's like throwing a stone into a pond. there are ripples upon ripples. and if and when michael cohen becomes a convicted felon -- and that would not shock me -- he may have many other tales to

tell. he is not a cooperator right now. but almost all defendants become convicted. and almost all convicted defendants become cooperators. >> do you believe michael cohen's cases debt resolved before mueller. >> you mean in time? >> yes. >> again, hard the say, if the he is inclined to bleed guilty and cooperate it could happen pretty quickly. if like mr. manafort he wants a trial it could take a long time. >> chuck rosenberg i'm going to leave it there. >> thank you for having me. let's bring in michael mcfaul former ambassador to russia and msnbc international affairs analyst ander thou of the book from cold war to hot peace from his time in russia. you help us with our baseball cards of oligarchs. let's start with victor vekselberg, the person behind the company that apparently was paying michael cohen. what can you tell us about victor vekselberg? >> if you have his baseball card that's a rich one. that's valuable one. he's one of the richest people in russia. he made his money in the '90s

principally in oil and gas and other thing. he is not one of the inner circle of vladimir putin. those people came later. those people became rich because of their relationship can with putin after he became president. i knew him from my time as ambassador. but he is somebody of course that you have to keep in good standing with the kremlin, otherwise you don't do business, especially on the sail scale that he does. he is one of those guys kind of on the second tier in terms of influence with the kremlin, but top tier in terms of value. he's one of the richest people in russia. >> so would you be skeptical of the theory that this is a putin operation and he's doing some work on behalf of putin or in some way on behalf of the kremlin to keep a relationship with the consiglieri of the president of the united states, michael cohen, or is it very possible he is worried about his

own business interests and he thinks like any other business interests he needs to understand the new president so he hires a consultant like michael cohen? what theory is more likely? >> so just to be clear, i don't know. right? and as a political scientist we can theorize but i want to be clear we need to know a lot more information before we know. but let me speculate a little bit. first of all, he has been in the outs with putin. just a couple of months ago some of his people were arrested. there was a lot of rumors that after inauguration -- putin's new inauguration which just happened early whier this week there was thog going to be another redistribution of property rights. >> new oligarchs. >> yep, yep, new oligarchs. people closer to the kgb or the fsb. high on that list in the rumor mills was guy who is sitting in jail right now.

vekselberg was on that list. one possible theory is he is trying to prove his worth to the kremlin. he knows new york well. he comes here often. he has a lot of money invested here and throughout the country, by the way. and maybe this was a plea for him, a show that i can be useful to you. i don't know that to be the case, but that would be a plausible explanation for me. >> what does that tell you? every time that we continue to see new -- >> pull on these threads. >> new people -- yes. and every time it seems like it is another tie to russia. another tie to russia. does this surprise you? is this like the russian novel of investigations? >> it does surprise me. and this one actually shocks me given what we were talking about before, that dara possible ka is not in the inner circle. he was really trying to establish himself in the west trying to park a lot of his money outside, building something which is the russian version of the silicon valley and then he pops up in this story. it's very strange to me.

>> all right. ambassador mcfaulk, good luck with the book. >> when do we get to do more oligarchs. dara possible ka up next. >> apparently it's getting close to a daily basis, anyway. mike mcfaul, thank you sir. >> thanks for having me. up ahead a former spy steps out of the tos. president trump's controversial pick to lead the cia tackles the topic of torture. mom you called?

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and coauthor of the great revolt inside the populous coalition, reshaping american politics. we will talk about it later in the show, but not in this segment. susan glasser, and david bowl offer. i can't believe the day after the mid terms and we have to wait to do the results of the election into the second half hour. susan glasser, you are a former moscow resident arc former reporter based in moscow. what do you know of vekselberg? what did you make of micromcfaul's explanation? >> i learned a lot of tough from mike mcfaul. he was a tutor to me and peter when we were correspondents in moscow. vekselberg actually -- you know, we knew him when we lived in moscow at the beginning of putin's ten your as an oligarch who did favors for the president. when we were there he purchased

faberge eggs to bring them back to russia. >> this has always been a thing with russia. they are in a race of malcolm forbes. >> these allegations are jaw dropping. i mean, if you had told any of us a year ago, especially those of us who follow russia that there would in fact be so many connections like actual connections between kremlin envoys or russian business people and the trump circle, we would have been floored. >> i wanted both of you to address this issue. michael cohen -- there is two explanations we could have of all this money coming in. michael cohen somebody brad that is close to the president. the company is going i have got to know who this guy is, i didn't think he was going to win. i am going to pay this guy $100,000 to find out. that's a common procedure.

that's an innocent explanation. but when does a procedure like that get un -- >> corporate america made big bets on hillary clinton. executive from almost every company went in huge for hillary's campaign. trump had hardly any donations until after the primary. i'm sure a lot of corporations were scrambling to find who knows somebody. there are 9,000 lobbyists in washington. there are 6 million people. most people do something else in that world they are not technically lobbying. >> a lot of people are registered lobbyists. but they are consultants. >> here's the problem -- this conversation in washington, d.c. but in mainstream america this narrative fits exactly. >> it looks like a shakedown. >> absolutely looks like a shakedown, pay to play politics. when they look at this deal -- i got contracts out that obama won in corporate america. they didn't look like this.

you were getting hundreds of thousands of dollars and not having to produce anything. come on. give me a break. at some point something is being expected of him that we are not seeing right now. you are not getting that type of money just because you are friends with the president. >> by the way, we have a foreign corrupt practices act. >> are all explanations bad here then? is what you are saying? the best explanation for michael cohen's money is that they were trying to learn about the president. >> nbc's reporting says novartis terminated the contract because he wasn't giving him anything for it. >> what were they hiring for him in the first place. we deny know what he was pitching. >> we don't know what he was pitching but it seems to me that even the company put out a statement that he was selling the idea that he could help them -- he was selling insights into the new administration. that's pretty big price tag if that's what he was selling. i would imagine most consultants

registered or not in washington would be happy for that kind of a pay day. number two, we have a foreign corrupt practices act which makes such behavior by our companies illegal if it's involving a foreign government. so the question is, is this actually legal in the swamp that trump promised to drain? we don't know the answer to that yet. >> if we follow this -- one threat of this is why on earth are russians paying cohen to help donald trump? right? to help payoff druf's problems? you don't have to be republican or democrat to say that seems frankly just a little wrong. what's the there there? why are they helping donald trump? >> according to reporting today, columbus is an american company. >> wholly owned by this guy. >> toyota is a japanese company. >> let's not be credited louse about russia. the idea that vekselberg has an american company that he has nothing to do with is not plausible in the context of how

russian businessmen operate. and i think if you looked at, you know, or talked to anyone has investigated how russian business works they would find that an explanation that doesn't hold much water. >> i am not hearing a lot of people who are aghast at this. these are the same people who were not aghast at the clinton administration raising tons of money from russian oligarchs. >> i don't want to create -- the what aboutism drives me nuts. there was investigations into all of these thing. >> when it was done the american people made their choice based on the facts. >> bill clinton wasn't the sitting president -- even if i give you he raised money from people all across the country -- he wasn't president of the united states. he wasn't sitting supposedly looking out for our number one interests. he wasn't in the white house. it's different when he is in the white house. i am annoyed that we have republicans all of a sudden looking the other way on this.

you should be just as outraged as anyone that russians are doing something in our democracy. >> i think most americans are eager to see the end of the mueller report. they want to judge the facts by themselves. i think they want to see the conclusion of it. we have a special counsel. he's doing his job. that's when we will get the information. >> i want to move to michael cohen in this respect -- and brad, i'll give you first crack at this. because there seems to be -- he seems to not be very careful. he gives the name to his company -- he creates this llc called essential consulting to pay stormy daniels' attorney and then he decides as he starts taking these contracts i'll just use the same llc. it does give the whiff of michael cohen is going to be donald trump's biggest problem. >> well, he's certainly a problem right now. i think, again, i believe that most people in america are waiting on the end of the special counsel's report. >> i gran you that. >> they want to see all the facts at one time.

dribbling it out one news story at a time while it's certainly your story to report that i think most people will take and pass judgment when they have everything. >> it is bringing up the point that there is this weird vacuum. the president fills it. mueller doesn't. >> that's right. because there is a difference between the public news cycle and the way investigations work had we learned today that michael cohen was on mueller's radar at least in november. >> in november. >> and they were meeting with novartis in november. that means it was at least a few weeks or months before. that tells you michael -- we might be eight months behind. right? like in the episodes here. >> we will forget this period or think of this period of the trump presidency as what goes in the prolog. we don't know what the bull with, of the book is. >> i would like to get the epilogue, too. >> skip to the end. >> 71% of americans think in

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president trump's nominee for cia director gina haspel took some tough questions from the senate intel committee today. she says she would not bring back torture techniques. she also said this. >> the president asserted that torture works. do you agree with that statement? >> senator, i -- i don't believe that torture works. valuable information was obtained from senior al qaeda operatives aallowed us to defend this country and prevent another attack. >> is that a yes? >> no it's not aest yes. we got valuable information from debriefing of al qaeda detainees. i don't think it's knowable

weather interrogation techniques played a role in that. >> if this president asks you to do something that you find morely objectionable even if there is an olc opinion, what will you do? >> senator, my moral come pass is dong. i would not allow cia to undertake activity that i thought was immoral even if it was technically legal. i would absolutely know not personal it. >> joining me now, joe manchin of west virginia a member of the committee who questioned haspel today. we have got a whole lot of other thing to talk about. there was an election in his home state yesterday. we have got a lot to talk about. first let's start with gina haspel and the nomination. you came out an hour or so ago saying you are going to vote for other nomination. address some. concern among your fellow democrats. it seems like it boils down to

this. there was a moment that she could have stood up and done something that a lot of people went too far. she clearly is uncomfortable with what was done. but she doesn't want to apologize for it. what can she do to bridge that gap to reassure your fellow democrats? >> here's the thing. i have had two sit-down meetings with her prior to her hearing today. you saw the open hearing. then we went into a classified closed hearing. and everything that you thought you might not have gotten a direct answer for we got direct answers for. i think this is the right person and the right time and the right place. this is a person who has come up through the ranks. she's committed and dedicated her life. she is the professional of all professionals. there is no one, no one that can be a better role model than gina haspel with the cia, knowing every nook and cranny and how it's supposed to run, how you treat people, and the job we are supposed to do. this lady put herself in harm's way and she has been on the front line of the most difficult

places we have in the world trying to keep americans safe. i can only put my mind back to 19. we wanted to know on that date when that happened was anybody in my family harmed? was there anybody that i knew who was harmed? was there any other americans harmed? we didn't care, we wanted to find out how to stop that. she has done her job. she did not break the law. she did what the law allowed us to do to keep us safe. i know they are reaching. we have got to understand us -- put yourself in that position, 9/11, and where we are today. she said wield she would never, we are never going to go back to that. i looked at this and i said give me the difference between pearl hasho. look what we did to pearl harbor, the japanese americans. it's awful. >> but we wouldn't repeat it. i guess the point is to learn from our past mistakes. >> you can learn from the past mistakes. >> and i think the argument would be you don't watt to reward a past mistake that wait a minute -- >> we have never done that again. >> i understand that but you see

my point like okay -- you are like wait a minute, should that -- should she be promoted for doing something that many people questioned was immoral? >> i'm only going to say this. i'm trying to be as sensitive as i can. torture is a horrible, horrific act that has been used and should not have been used. i understand that. but i can assure you, after 9/11, i wanted to know, if i had a -- we were talking about the top operative who planned the attack. who was the mastermind who talked bin laden into doing what he did, and he took credit for it. this is the guy that did it. this is the guy that did it. and she was able to sit down and interrogate. she was not involved in that. not at all. she is getting blamed for this. you can say did you do it enthusiast particularly? did you break the law? no. she answered every question we

asked. i hope my colleagues search their soul and this is the right person who knows the agency. >> one other devil's advocate question on her. it's the issue of others being able to use the imagery of torture as a propaganda tool against america. you know, the image of america around the world, the image of the cia specifically. and so her promotion only highlights that stain. >> i don't think that at all. i think her promotion basically says, hey we are going to take care of america. this is for real. and with that, she was trying to protect these -- we had a lot of people involved in this that basically could have been revealed that could have cost us a lot of sensitive information to keep us safe. i have been on committee long enough to understand we have to protect the assets we have. she did her job, did it right, within the letter of the law and that's what we asked them to do.

let's change the law. >> let me move on to the russia story a minute because you are on the intel committee. >> right. >> you have been this the room interrogatesing some stuff, involved in this investigation. did you know about this michael cohen connection to this russian oligarch? had you come across that yet in your investigation? >> it has not come up in your investigation. we get briefed again further this week but that has not come out before. >> what does that tell but the state of your investigation versus the state of mueller's? >> we are looking at how do we keep russia from getting involved in our elections. how do we keep them from trying to change the confidence this beef this change of power, the democracy we have basked ourselves into and set as the model for the world. that's where we are going. we are trying to make sure that every polling place is safe, social media is safe, things of that sort that they have tried to intervene. we know what they did and they haven't stopped. we are doing our job. we will get this thing and i'm sure that mr. mueller will do his. >> it's fair to say you don't

consider -- i think some people believe you guys are looking into whether there was a conspiracy between americans and russia. would you say that that isn't your primary role? is that really what mueller is doing? >> mueller is going down that road, as you just described it. >> right. >> i don't -- look, i mean when we started out ours was a big thing and we've kind of narrowed it down. we want to make sure that we can keep this basically orderly process of how we change power and how we transfer power. no foreign entities should be involved in any way, shape, or form. we are interested in all of this. i think we have shared -- our committee shared everything they could at the beginning. they are still sharing our staff has been doing an excellent job. this hasn't been the front burner for us. >> i want to talk about your race. you know you are facing patrick morrissy. you went on another telephones channel and said there was only one truly conservative

republican in the race. that was don blankenship. with all due respect i think conservative republicans would find that an insult? >> they can compare any way they want to. i have known don for a long time. we have had a contention relationship. but you have to give credit due where credit is due. don is not a johnny come lately. he was a hard core republican in west virginia. i said the only person in that race that was a hard core conservative republican was don blankenship, period. >> it sounds like crocodile tears. it soubds like you are pulling a lig something on me here. >> chuck, you know i wouldn't do that. >> not at all. you really thought don blankenship was a legitimate challenger. >> i'm not going to say any of that. the people made a decision about the republican party. >> look at what he said about

mitch mcconnell. you don't condone that. >> i think it's horrific. people are having personal attacks now. there is many reasons -- if you want to find a reason to vote against me or for me i'm hoping i have given you enough. you don't have to make up stuff or attack my name or attack my family. nobody even knows what the issues are in the republican party right now. i'm not going to stand back and let morrissy deteriorate the quality of health care or attack the teachers. i'm not going the stand for that. i'm not going to let him cut social security. he has to get his mind out of the gutter and talk about the issues that pertain to west virginia. >> senator joe manchin, the democrat from west virginia. i ran out of time. i didn't even get to a third of the topics i wanted to. up ahead, more on the mid terms, and the first name no one wanted to vote for yesterday. congressman.

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wasn't able to crack 50% of the vote despite an endorsement from president trump. robert pit inker won the dubious distinction of being the first incumbent to tlooz a primary as he was blasted as quote washington swamp. ohio democrats weren't interested in dennis kucinich. he lost the primary by quite a bit. incumbents consider yourself notified. we will dive deeper into what happened in just a minute. we will be back with more "mtp daily" and those points in just a minute.

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attributes. trump's campaign was the least partisan in recent history because from the start he aimed hits fire at both political trenches. it is fitting and we are discussing this and this point the day after having the brand name of congressman was not a good name to have. and it strikes me those folks were trying to appeal to the trump voter and couldn't sell. >> it's true that today's swing voter -- the swing voters available to republicans is an industrial rural sort of culture of work. maybe the echo of labor, maybe they are parents worked in a blue collar role. 60% of those polled in our book said they trusted trump to do the right thing more than any institution in government in america. 20% of constitutional republicans. 85% of trump voters blamed both parties for dysfunction in washington. 70% said corporations can't be

trusted to do the right thing for their workers. the populous moment in the republican party is indistinguishable from call the republican moment in the republican party. >> i have a hardpopulous, becaui can't get the stink of nationalism away in this call on populism. look, trump is someone that came in, he burst on the scene, he broke through primarily around calls for nationalism and attacks on the other. let's not play games with that. he's still doing it. still part and partial of what he's doing. he's made a lot of main stream republicans uncomfortable. i'm not surprised with what i'm seeing yesterday, i think they've gotten it right. i think ed gillespie to a certain extent where you take away, you go to the far right on, they attacked immigration, most of them were for it, the muslim band. so as a campaigner, you take away the primary contrast. then can you put another contrast in there saying i'm more electable than him.

i'm also anti-immigrant, right. i think that itself success you saw for someone, but the truth, will that be successful in november? >> trump arguably is one of the least ideological presidents we had in a long time. he didn't use the word conservative or liberal. there are two counties that voted for obama and trump. >> maybe there was a guy that said there was no red america, no blue america. he mit not be ideological. i will leave that alone. >> it's a paradox here. on the one hand, i hear you in the sense donald trump was an outsider to the republican party. he didn't run in a traditional mission of issues. he certainly was greeted as a hostile by many in the party leadership. at the same time, we all know we are living in one of the post-partisan times in living memory. right. this is a moment in which

everything including law enforcement investigations are sifting through. it's sort of a paradox. your analysis is absolutely right. what i'm struck by is we seem now to have every single election, every two years be an anti-incumbent through the anti-washington election. it used to be we went in waves. now it's a permanent anti-washington. >> that gets to your point. by the way, they voted for w. they voted for clinton. they have been voting the new person. vote out the out. >> with clinton and bush, you had sort of the last gasps of legacy brands. that's no different in what's happening in american culture. anybody surprised by the election haven't paid attention to sears and row buck lost out to amazon. every institution, every banking industry is leading us to vin mode and paypal. people are leaving institution and legacy brands every day. >> i think what is most problematic in our politics right now is no one is speaking in a positive way to the angst that a certain at least 46 have.

its ideal that it's us against them. the truth of the matter is, south america not going to get wider. it's can't be us versus them or we lose the future. i think the candidate for 2020, republican or democrat speaks and says that trump voter. i think that person will go a long way. >> it's interesting. i think we will talk a long way about the republican primaries. and this continued running against washington and the fact that almost trump has institutionalized washington bashing. but you know, let's look at a seconds at the democratic primaries yesterday. there is something extraordinary happening. look at how many women, 17 out of the 20 seats in which they were running, women won nominations. it's running against washington. you can argue that's a part of the trends. >> that's one thing i want to

point out the bass tax of those three states, quickly about ohio and get to that, i simultaneously was a good day for democrats in the house and a good day for republicans in the senate. i say this now, because if i'm joe donnelly, i want to run against the house republican, not mike braun. if i'm joe manchin, i probably would have wanted a house republican next, too, i think. my point is the senate races didn't break as well for the democrats, though the anti-incumbent atmosphere did. >> i think that's fair. certainly, we'd rather run against blankenship and west virginia, et cetera, when you look at the tax poefl, it's under water, it's growing increasely popular among independents. when they tried in pennsylvania, they had to pull it down. it wasn't working. when you look at health care premiums going up, i think democrats lacked the environment that hay have to run into. >> what do you make of that, that yesterday was sort of simultaneously for the democrats. >> i think you are right the republicans have a good shot in

the senate, there are ten democrats up in states president trump carried. five he carried by 18 points or more. in the book we followed trump voters that switch from obama to trump. i'd see those voters will go republican in the senate races. i think democrats are behind the 8 ball in the rust belt great lakes states. the generic ballot is still good. >> what do you make of bill rutger said this today, that the president has been able to bury some of his domestic problems with the -- i think he said with basically with these international achievements of febreeze he said, to suck out the odor, spritz and febreeze, it was a pretty good line. can i work for the mid-terms? >> first of all, international achievements, that's putting a very positive gloss -- incomplete report card here. >> incomplete. >> but it is totally true that presidents of all parties, you know, from richard 96 on the

bill clinton, seek solace in being an international statesman when they feel that the senates of the federal prosecutors are challenging them that's home. so we have a long history of this and what we've learned over time is that the politics, you can't outrun the politics of an investigation if it ends up badly for you. >> all right. guys. susan kornell, thank you very much. i'll be right back. ♪[upbeat music]

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tonighter election night. we will be back tomorrow with "carson daly." >> good evening, thanks very much. there are several breaking stories today which build on the bombshell that stormy daniels' lawyer dropped last night. those records suggesting a new money trail from a russian-linked company to the secret plot to pay off stormy daniels. so what's been going on since all this happened? well, reporters have been verifying different parts of the story. companies who paid cohen now confirming these allegations while also trying to do their individual damage control. but hear is what's most telling tonight. we are basically one night out from something that could be an inflexion point. and i don't use that point lightly. here's what you need to know now. donald trump and michael cohen, they're not really punching back on this story. they're not releasing their own financial materials to rebut these