thanks to you for joining us this hour. happy to have you with us on this friday night. the mass shooting today at a texas high school about 35 miles from houston has thus far claimed ten lives, another ten people are injured. 17-year-old suspect in the mass murder is in custody. he said to have used two guns in the killings, a .38 caliber revolver, a handgun, and a shotgun. we had mixed reports about other people besides the shooter being sought or questions by police in conjunction with these murders. we do not yet have clarity if others had knowledge of the

attack or why others were seeking others to speak to once they had the suspect in custody. law enforcement also saying that nation to the guns this guy brought for this attack, there were also explosive devices in and around the school he attack, variously described as pipe bombs or moll to have cocktails or both. again, we have ten killed. we have at least ten injured, including at least one police officer. we have a 17-year-old suspect who is a stunt at the school who is now in custody. and this is the 16th mass shooting at a school during school hours thus far this year, the 16th school shooting this year. according to a "washington post" analysis, this is highest number at this point in any year since 1999, which is when the columbine high school mass murder happened. 1999. there are already vigils under

way tonight, including paul ryan's office. protests against the lack of any significant response to this particular red tide of mass child murder that we have in this country. this epidemic of a specific kind of mass murder that targets civilians and that is always committed with civilian firearms, this epidemic that no other country endures to anywhere near the extent that we endure it. so we will have more on the situation in santa fe, texas, coming up live in just a couple minutes on the show tonight. this mass murder happened early this morning before 8:00 a.m. local time this morning. but by the nature of this one, there is still new reporting evolving into tonight about exactly what happened and how and what is happening at the crime scene and what is happening with the victims. we're going to have a live report from the scene coming up in just a couple minutes.

when he was sworn in as president in 1969, richard nixon found a republican lawyer to run the irs, randolph thrower, great name. i think he was from georgia, actually. he had not been a part of the nixon campaign. he had not been a particularly politically active republican back home, but he was well liked and supported and recommended by his home state senators, maybe. for whatever reason he ended up getting the job. he met nixon for the first time when nixon named him to the job to run the irs. and that was probably mr. thrower's first mistake. it's not clear now that he knew when he was getting himself into when he took that job. it's politicize prit clear that he didn't know exactly what kind of president he would be working for when he took that job and what that president expected of the person he would have running the irs.

that much became clear when we got to mr. thrower's second mistake. after a couple years on the job running the irs for richard nixon, randolph thrower decided that he needed to talk to the president. he made contact with the white house. he did not have a previous relationship with nixon, didn't come up with the nixon campaign. only met nixon when he was appointed to run the irs. but thrower asked for a personal meeting with the president. contacted the white house and said he needed to talk to him. quote, in january 1971 mr. thrower requested a meeting with the president hoping to warn him personally about pressure white house staff members has been placing on the irs to audit the tax returns of certain individuals, the list had grown to include journalists and even members of congress. as irs commissioner randolph thrower says, he had been directed by white house staff to

audit every single democratic senator who was up for re-election in 1970. now, commissioner thrower was quite certain that president nixon was unaware of this pressure. he was certain if he could just let the president know face to face that this bad thing was happening, he was certain president nixon would be just as horrified as he was about the dangers of any suggestion of the introduction of political influence into the workings of the irs. commissioner thrower was very wrong about that. richard nixon was not as horrified as he was about this pressure that was being brought to bear on the irs. randolph thrower calls the white house, explains he needs a personal neegt with tmeeting wi president. quote, mr. thrower received two responds to that request. the first was the memo from the pilots secretary saying on meeting with the president would not be possible. the second response was a phone call from john ehrlichman, the

president's top domestic affairs adviser. he told commissioner thrower that he was fired. so yeah, that pressure that the honorable irs commissioner to audit and investigate people who the white house didn't like, turns out that was not exactly a shock and a surprise to president nixon. but once nixon realized that randolph thrower was going to be a problem on this front over at the irs, he realized he needed to find somebody to replace this guy, somebody more suited to the way nixon expected to be able to use the government for his own purposes. there was a guy named john nolan who was up for the job, considered the front-runner to be the next commissioner. he was the obvious choice, the guy in charge of tax policy. president nixon really, really knew what he wanted to use the

irs for, and he was willing to be very explicit. and his staff, therefore, told him yeah, we know that he's the front-runner, but probably not the right guy for this job, he's probably not going to do what you want over there if you put him in this job. and we know that conversation happened in the white house between president nixon and his top aides because it happened on tape. so here's the tape. fair warning, there's a bit of nixon swearing in there. >> i want to be sure he's a ruthless son of a bitch , that he'll do what he's told that, every income tax return i want to see, i see. that he'll go after our enemies and not go after our friends. it's as simple as that. if he isn't, he doesn't get the job. we've got to have somebody like

that for a change in this place. well, that is the basis of which i inquired about. >> don't hire no lan if that's what you want, sir. amazing tape. nixon says he wants someone who will do what he's told, every income tax tax return i want to see, i see. he will not go after our friends. that's what he wants and his staffers tell him, okay, sir, then don't pick this guy, nolan. so they don't pick nolan. turns down the recommendation from his treasury secretary. they find a different guy, a justice department guy who's recommended to nixon by his attorney general at the time, john mitchell who would also be nixon's campaign manager. nixon thinks for sure this guy will get it, this guy will know what i want from the irs.

he gets installed as the head of the irs, and then president nixon expects to be able to start firing the irs at his political enemies like a weapon that he alone controls. so september 11th, 1972, white house counsel john dean calls up walters, calls up the irs commissioner, this guy hand picked to be nixon's son of a -- at the irs. he calls up walters, summons him in the white house counsel's office. commissioner walters comes up to the white house, comes to meet with john dean at that meeting, john dean that understands irs commissioner an envelope. in that envelope is a list of people, hundreds of people, that the president wants investigating and pursued and audited by the irs, this is two months against a race against mcgovern and he hands him a list

of george mcgovern's staffers and top donors and says to the commissioner, okay, go get em. and the irs commissioner, this guy johnny walters, despite the fact that he was picked for this job on a recommendation of a guy who knew he would do it, walters says he's shocked by this request by john dean. he walked out of the meeting holding this envelope containing this enemy's list, this list he was ordering him to investigate. you're the head of the irs, investigate this list of people. what did johnny walters do with that list? took it back to the irs, in that sealed envelope, and he locked it up in a safe in his office. he did not act on it at all. he did not follow nixon's orders. and that list just sat there in that safe in the commissioner's

office at the irs. and then eight months layeter, watergate opens. john dean turns against nixon and started to testify and it was john dean in his congressional testimony who ended up telling the world that, yeah, there was an enemy's list, and he told them what happened after that list was for. and what he said it in the hearing room, you could hear the gasps in the room. >> whether it be an fbi investigation of an individual or irs audit, do you consider that to be a legal and proper activity? >> i don't know of the iec itself. >> i understand. >> i do, of course, know i have submitted in documents other agencies were involved in seeking politically embarrassing information on individuals who were thought to be enemies of the white house. i might also add that in my

possession is a rather very much down the lines of what you're talking about, a memorandum that was requested by me to prepare a means to attack the enemies of the white house. there was also maintained what was called an enemies list, which is rather extensive and continually being updated. >> i'm not going to ask who is on it. i'm afraid you might answer. i wonder, are these documents in the possession of the committee? >> no, but i would be happy to submit them to the committee. they didn't fit within the request that i had with counsel as to the documents he wished-twished to have produced. >> mr. chairman, i think the committee would like very much to have a copy of that memorandum. >> all right, sir.

>> and so john dean announced the existence of and then handed over the enemies list. it's interesting, once john dean said that publicly, you hear the gasps in the room, the irs commissioner, johnny walters, walked over to his safe in his office at the irs and he unlocked the safe and he took out his own copy of that list that nixon had dean give to him months before. that list had been sitting in his safe ever since but once dean disclosed the existence of that list publicly, irs commissioner unlocked the safe, took out the list, and brought it to congress, handed it over still sealed. and we remember that nixon enemies list now almost wryly. it's a badge of honor to have been someone who richard nixon

perceived to be an enemy, perceived to be a powerful enough enemy that he was going to come all of, right? but nixon wasn't just making an enemies list for his own psychological enjoyment. it wasn't a hate list to make himself feel better. he made and continually updated an enemies list because that was a list of targets because that was a list of people against whom action was expected. he expected and order government agencies to take action against those enemies on behalf of the president. >> while the bulk of the senate session today dealt with challenges to dean's story, there was one other area which dean opened up. he turned over to the committee documents he had saved which show if they're not elaborate forge ris that the white house was planning to use the internal revenue service and other federal agencies as weapons against political opponents who are called enemies on some

documents. this is an example of that file a memo drafted for haldman and ehrlichman by dean himself. it describes a plan in dean's own pungent along the use the availability federal machinery to screw our political enemies. >> use the available federal machinery to screw our public enemies. don't just list them, but use the available federal machinery to hurt them. john dean admitted to it in june 1973. july 1973, the white house admitted there was a taping system in the white house. the supreme court forced the tapes to be released, and then all this enemies list stuff, all of this stuff that we had described to us about them using the available federal machinery to screw our political enemies, it wasn't just an allegation anymore. once the tapes were released, we got to hear it on tape, curses

and all. nixon particularly hated "the los angeles times." the day after the times ran an unflattering article in october 1981 about someone nixon nominated for a cabinet position, day after that article ran, nixon -- we have a tape of it. nixon called up his attorney general john mitchell to not just vent about that "l.a. times" story he didn't like, he called the attorney general in order to sic the federal government on the "l.a. times" as an institution, the publisher and the publisher's family. go after the "l.a. times" and the chandler family. and we have it on tape. fair warning, it's nixon so the president uses both a racial slur in this tape and he swears again. >> i want you to direct the most

trusted person you have in the immigration service that they are to look over all the activities of the "los angeles times," all, underlined, to see whether they are violating the wetback thing, otis chandler, i want him checked with regard to his gardener. he's a wetback. we're going after the chain of command ler-- chandlers. >> very well, sir, yes, sir, we will sic immigration authorities on the publisher of the "l.a. times" and on the "l.a. times" as a company for the wetback thing, very well, sir. we will sic the irs, mr. chain of commander, and every one of those sons of -- the whole family. go after them by means of the income tax. every one of those sons -- is

that clear? yes, sir. understand, do it, give me a report. very well, sir, yes, sir, we'll report back, sir. richard nixon was not impeached. richard nixon resigned when the supreme court ordered the release of the white house tapes and on the tapes it became obvious that it was a sure bet because the videos elaborated on his profound guilt. when he resigned the presidency there were three articles of impeachment ending up against him, the first one was act the watergate break-in and obstructing justice, delaying, impede and obstructing the investigation, covering up the crime, protecting those responsib responsible, lying to investigators, paying people to lie, tipping off people who were the subject of investigation, lying to the public in order to deceive the public about the investigation. but the second article for which

nixon was going to be impeached, that was about abuse of power, misusing the irs trying to get them to unlawfully target people for audit and investigation. misusing not just is it irs, but the fbi and the secret service and other agencies and personnel, quote, for purposes unrelated to national security, the enforcement of laws and other law officer functions of the office. he still acted in a manner contrary to his trust as president and subversive of constitutional government, to the great prejudice of the cause of law and justice -- that's why nixon would have been impeached

if he didn't quit first just ahead of it. richard nixon hated the press. as a californian, he had a complex relationship with the california newspapers, but he really really hated the "l.a. times" and the chandler family who ran it. and his hatred of the chandler family and the "l.a. times," that showed up in some of the type of behavior for which he was ultimately impeached using the available federal machinery, using the power of the federal government to the extent that he could control it to punish his enemies. our current president also hates the press. he likes to talk about how much he hates cnn and "the new york times" and nbc. he seems particularly to hate "the washington post." the president has latched on personally to "washington post" owner jeff bezos who runs amazon.com. his literally the richest man on earth right now.

the president for months has been publicly attacking "the washington post" and the connection between "the washington post" and amazon through the paper's owner, jeff bezos. the president has been blunt about this in his own online statements and within the last few weeks it felt like this was tipping into enemies list territory. this is "the wall street journal" last month. quote, in the past week the president turned what were singapore raddic criticisms of amazon dom into a sustained volley against the company, causing stock market fluctuations against amazon. his ire is not much the paper but the owner, jeff bezos, according to people in the white house. he's lashing out assist amazon as a proxy, these people said. the president's most flurry of tweets. what's not clear is mr.

mr. trump will take actions that would harm amazon's business interests. "wall street journal" last month there was also this around the same time from "vanity fair." the president is focusing object his perceived skmaenz object sessions. haemz, whose owner, jeff bezos also owns "the washington post" is currently his main target. according to four sources close to the white house, trump is discussing ways to further damage the company. trump is like how can i eff with him? he didn't say eff. according to sources, trump wants the post office to increase amazon' shipping costs. well, that would hurt amazon. that was reported last month, and now today we learned the president doesn't just want that, he has ordered it. headline, trump personally

pushed post master general to double rates on amazon. president trump has personally pushed u.s. post master general to double the rate they charge amazon.com. the post master has so far resisted trump's demand explaining in multiple conversations that these arrangements are bound by contracts and must be reviewed by regulatory commission. they have met at the white house about this matter several times starting last year. quote, the meetings have never appeared on trump's public schedule. but somewhere along the line, somebody locks the list up in a safe, right? somewhere along the line, somebody truthfully decides they're going to answer investigators' questions about it. the president will have miscalculated when he figured that these other public nashlz work for him, he will have miscalculated when he figured they would all go along with his idea that they should use their

agencies to settle his personal scores when he tells them to. somewhere along the line, three people with knowledge of these previously secret conversations between the president personally and the post master general, somewhere along the line three different people will go tell "the washington post" about those secret meetings and then those meetings won't be discreet any longer. using the government to punish political enemies was one of the articles of impeachment against richard nixon. it is also something that's pretty easy to get caught for as long as people stand up to a president trying to do this. as long as someone blows the whistle. that's what this is, reporting like this in "the washington post" today. we are living history, you guys. we'll be right back. >> i want to be sure these

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because it's friday and this is how it goes now when you do a live news show on friday nights, "the new york times" just broke a major news story. the by line on this, adam gold mans, marc rosetti and mark rosenberg. hopefully we'll get adam goldman on the phone. this is just posted. headline as you can see there. "fbi used informant to investigate russia ties to campaign, not to spy, as trump claims." the president and conservative media and trump-supporting members of congress on the republican side in congress have recently been upset and have been making a lot of noise about recent reporting that the fbi was not just investigating russia's attack on the election and whether or not the trump campaign had any connection to russia's efforts to interfere with the election even before the election happened in 2016. there has been recent reporting

that at least one informant met with people on the trump campaign during the course of the campaign who were suspected of having ties to russia. well, "the new york times" has just fleshed this out tonight. "president trump accused the fbi today, on friday, without evidence of sending a spy to secretly infiltrate his 2016 campaign for political purposes. even before the bureau had any inkling of the phony russia hoax. in fact, according to the "new york times" tonight, fbi agents sent an informant to talk to two campaign advisers only after they received evidence that the pair had suspicious contacts linked to russia during the campaign. the informant is an american academic who teaches in britain. he made contact late that summer with one campaign adviser, george papadopoulos. he also met repeatedly in the ensuing months with the other aide, carter page, who was also under fbi scrutiny for his ties to russia. the "times" says they have learned the identity of this person but as a matter of policy "the new york times" typically

does not name informants in order to preserve their safety. that same inclination has not stopped pro-trump members of congress and indeed now to a certain extent the president himself from demanding this fbi informant be exposed as a way apparently of trying to undermine the mueller investigation. joining us is adam goldman. he is one of the "new york times" reporters whose byline on this story has just broken. thank you for joining us on short notice. i really appreciate it. >> thank you for having me. >> the "times" had reported earlier this week that there was one informant who had met at least once with members of the trump campaign during the campaign. the president and conservative media have responded to reports like that by suggesting that it is a scandal, that there was fbi misconduct in doing so. from your reporting is there any indication that the fbi or the justice department believe that there was anything improper about this informant's actions? >> no. not at all. the fbi concluded that it opened

up, properly predicated a lawful investigation into possible collusion. and they dispatched an informant to try to suss out this information using, in fact, the least intrusive means as possible. >> did the fbi, in working with this informant, did they effectively plant somebody inside the trump campaign as a mole? that's the way it's been described in conservative media. >> no. that's not our understanding. they used this informant, this american to essentially brush against george papadopoulos and carter page to try to figure out what they might have known about russian attempts to influence the election. this individual certainly was not part of the campaign. and that seems like a stretch to suggest.

>> in terms of the timing here and, again, the accusations that have been levied at the fbi around this issue, is it clear that carter page and george papadopoulos, the people who were approached by this informant, they were already under investigation because of their own ties? they were already at least under scrutiny because of their ties to russian intelligence at the time that this informant operation was launched? >> that seems to be the case. the fbi opened this investigation on july 31st. and it's our understanding this informant made contact with george papadopoulos on september 2nd. he also bumped into carter page at a conference in cambridge, england. but we're not sure if that was just a coincidence or was actually part of an fbi outreach. >> what did the informant -- what kind of contact did he have

with papadopoulos and page? what did he ask them to do? >> well, for papadopoulos he asked him to do a research report essentially. carter page, he met with carter repeatedly, but by carter's own admission he didn't find the meetings out of the ordinary or necessarily unusual. it didn't race suspicions among carter page. in fact, the contacts with carter in september 2017. >> adam, you also at the end of your piece tonight have a very provocative description about contacts between this same informant and general mike flynn, who went on to be trump's national security adviser and is now awaiting sentencing after having pled guilty in the special counsel's investigation. in 2014 you say this informant had met with mike flynn when flynn was rung the defense intelligence agency at the time. flynn attended the academy

agency. according to people familiar with flynn's visit to the seminar, the source was alarmed by general flynn's apparent closeness with a russian woman who was also in attendance. the concern was strong enough that it prompted another person to pass on a warning to american authorities that flynn could be compromised by russian intelligence. what can you tell us about that incident and what that meant for flynn going forward in terms of the attention on him from the fbi? >> well, that certainly -- from the informant's standpoint that was certainly a moment he took note of. it's not clear if that information that went to the american authorities actually triggered a counterintelligence investigation, but it certainly would have been logged by authorities. >> "new york times" reporter adam goldman, thank you for joining us on such short notice, and congratulations on this

late-breaking news. >> thank you. bye. >> i will say flynn is -- if this anecdote about michael flynn from 2014, sources alarmed by his closeness with a russian woman at an intelligence seminar, reporting it back to u.s. intelligence authorities about whether or not he's compromised, over the course of the mueller investigation we've also got rick gates and paul manafort, the chairman and deputy chairman of the trump campaign, both also in contact with someone who the fbi believed to be a russian intelligence asset. we've got carter page who is believed to be involved with russian intelligence and potentially reporting home to moscow about his contacts with the fbi and this country. and we've got george papadopoulos also involved in the trump campaign, also appearing to be in contact with russian intelligence. that's a lot for one campaign. have you ever heard in any

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in my possession is a rather -- very much down the lines of what you're talking about, is a memorandum that was requested by me to prepare a means to attack the enemies of the white house. there was also maintained what was called an enemies list,

which was rather extensive and continually being updated. [ laughter ] >> i'm not going to ask who was on it. [ laughter ] i'm afraid you might answer. >> white house counsel john dean in 1973 admitting the nixon white house maintained a list of people it intended to target using the power of the federal government on the president's behalf. "washington post" today reporting that our current president has personally directed the postmaster, the postmaster general of the united states, to punish his own perceived enemy, amazon.com, whose ceo is also the owner of "the washington post." joining us now is nbc presidential historian michael beschloss. mr. beschloss, thank you for being with us tonight. >> my pleasure always, rachel. >> i want to ask you about what i perceive to be a parallel here. i also actually want to ask you a little bit about this breaking news we've just had from the "new york times." let me just ask you about that first, actually. we just had adam goldman here. the "times" is reporting that

the fbi did send an informant to talk to two trump campaign advisers during the 2016 campaign. this has become an objective -- object of focus for the conservative media and for president trump himself. the president has described, that the fact that the fbi had an informant in the campaign, as itself worse than watergate. what's your reaction to that? >> well, what the "times" is reporting tonight is that the fbi was doing its job, which was investigating the possibility of collusion with a capital k between russia and the trump campaign. you were talking about nixon earlier. donald trump has called the supposed embed by the fbi for political purposes on his campaign, as you said, worse than watergate. what nixon did not have was fox news or sinclair or big-time conservative media. what he would not have given to be able to take things that came up that were embarrassing or damaging to him like collusion and turn it into something else that might have allowed him to

at least delay his move to impeachment. >> i am struck going back and looking at the nixon articles of impeachment today, i mean, all this stuff about obstruction of justice feels very resonant in terms of what is reportedly being investigated by this president. but the use of the agencies of the federal government and the investigative power of the fbi and the secret service and the irs and all these other elements of government to go after his enemies, essentially the president right now seems to be on the hook for that sort of thing a little bit in terms of going after amazon, trying to hurt amazon, the connection with his perceived enemy at the "washington post." while simultaneously making that allegation against president obama, implying this investigative agency should never have been used to investigate russia collusion in his campaign. >> if this is true about amazon, this is classic abuse of power. and the irony is that richard nixon particularly went after of

all things, "the washington post" in 1972. on one of those tapes he's telling john dean after the election the "post" is going to have damnable problems, he said. we've got to play the game, he said, very rough. he talked about going after the post's television stations and giving hem regulatory problems. you'd think if donald trump had a scintilla of understanding of history, he would know that is probably as you were saying earlier, rachel, one of the most important things that would have led to nixon's impeachment. but he has no knowledge of history, and history is repeating itself again. >> and this particular problem that he's got on this subject, i think one of the things that maybe the white house doesn't appreciate yet is this is one of the ones that's easy to catch people for. >> very. >> because if your activity is documented and can be attested to by multiple public officials it's hard to come up with an alternate explanation for something. >> a lot of people will know it. and we had the right to expect this would never happen again. >> nbc presidential historian michael beschloss, appreciate

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what's in your wallet? did you watch chris hayes's show last night? if you didn't, you should go back and watch it. chris got a hold exclusively of some fascinating tape of one of the wealthiest men in the world talking about his meetings with the president of the united states. this is not the whole thing. this is just a short clip. but watch. >> i saw him at trump tower, and i said, hey, science and innovation is a great thing, you should be a leader who drives innovation. and that conversation was about a broad set of things. in energy, in health, in education, you know, big things you want to do that are big, hiv vaccine, you could accelerate that. be associated with innovation. and then the second time i saw him was the march after that. so march 2017 in the white house. both times he wanted to know if there was a difference between

hiv and hpv. so i was able to explain that those are rarely confused with each other. >> both times. so the president wanted to know once, is there a difference between hiv, the virus that causes aids, hpv, human papilloma virus? two totally different things. the president wants to know the first time they meet, is there a difference between hiv and hpv? then they meet again a different time and he asked the same question again. because even though he was told the answer the first time it's gone, he has to ask again. that was revealed last night, that tape of bill gates, on the chris hayes show. the president, who just can't remember the difference between hpv and hiv even when it is explained to him personally. today we learned that that same president is doing something quite radical to try to upend women's health care in this country. something he's obviously quite on top of.

"the new york times" first to report today that the administration is trying to cut off federal funding for family planning. money for stuff like std screenings and birth control the administration planning to cut off that funding for any facility that also provides abortion services or even tells patients that they can go somewhere else to get an abortion. in other words planned parenthood can say good-bye to federal funding. if you are tempted to imagine legitimate policy-making motivation for this new rule, considering it was revealed in a telephone briefing with social, conservative, and religious activists. joins us now is nancy norfolk, her job is to fight these of any kind things. thank you for being here. >> it's good to be here, i'm sorry i'm here to talk about what is not going to be be good for women. that is this regulation that the trump administration is throwing out there. people need to see this as the

continued politicization of women's health care. title ten has been a program around since 1970, during the nixon administration. so if it was good enough back then, 50 years, good enough now, and they want to put restrictions that have never ever been in place in almost 50 years in this program. >> as far as i understand, some of the history here, if we're going to talk about previous presidents on this issue, in 1988, didn't ronald reagan try to do something like this? he tried to do something where people would be banned from mentioning abortion existed. my memory is he tried and it got caught up in the courts. and bill clinton was president by the time any of the regulations might have gone into effect, clinton rescinded them, they never went to effect. but reagan did try it? >> he did try it. but it never went into effect as you pointed out. it's a bad idea. basically what women need is to get health care from

professionals who are expert in reproductive health care. in the title 10 that's who get selected. who gets selected is providers who know about women's health care and providing that care. and that includes places that do the whole range of women's reproductive health care. in the title 10 they're doing sti, cancer screening, important life-saving procedures but women what women might want to do is go to a clink where they can get the whole raining of services, including counseling about abortion services f. they find out through a pregnancy test that they're pregnant. >> it's one of the options women constitutionally have this country. >> yes. and they want to talk to their doctors about it. >> do you feel they've rolled this out in a legally resilient way or the courts will stop it? >> we have no idea. the courts rolled it out at 6:30, the night before the wedding, a short statement

saying we're going to do this. but they don't have our lawyers at the center of the reproductive rights, just checked the federal register to see if we have the regs out there, we don't know what the content is. >> they said they're going to do it but they haven't rolled it out. >> they've announced. >> they've announced that they've announced. for them, depending on how everything is spelled it may be an advance noefrm -- in terms of their policy. nancy northrup keep us apprised on this. >> absolutely. >> we'll be right back. stay with us. hey jess.

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all day we have been following the terrible events out of the southeast texas, mass shooting, mass killing, mass murder at a santa fe high school, santa fe, texas. this morning about 40 minutes into the school day, police say a 17-year-old student armed with a handgun and a shotgun opened fire, killed ten people, injured ten more. the suspect is in custody. the investigation is under way. joining us is gabe gutierrez. who's been on the ground all day. thank you for joining us. i know it's an unusual thing to have a suspect in custody in instances like this. are law enforcement authorities clear this young man, a, is the right man, and what's the status of his links to other people and their interest in talking to other persons of interest? >> we have new information in

the past couple hours. according to a galveston county judge here, the judge here says he does not believe there will be any accomplices here, you mentioned earlier there have been two persons of interest that have been questioned. the governor said earlier they may have been questioned because of their reactions to the shooting. that can be common in situations like these, but at this point the county judge does not believe there will be any accomplices here. in the court appearance we learned several things from a probable cause affidavit where investigators revealed that the suspect told them he didn't shoot students he liked because he wanted his story told. a chilling detail for that. but earlier, investigators had said that he had, in his journals that investigators found in his computer, he had said he had intended to kill himself but ended up not having the courage to take his own life. but here in this community, the community is stunned. we're learning more about the

victims one is a mother of three, grandmother of eight, she was a substitute teacher that came back to work more than a year ago because her husband has been diagnosed with terminal cancer, she is among the ten people killed. another student we're learning about a pakistani exchange student. these are the stories we'll continue to hear over the next day or so, as well as a school resource officer who's in critical but stable condition at a local hospital. he actually confronted the shooter. many people are calling him a hero tonight, rachel. >> gabe on the scene in texas. thank you. much appreciated. it's been a difficult day of reporting down there, i know. the school resource officer who gabe just mentioned there, we're told is a retired police officer. this does seem to be -- there's been evolving news over the course of the day about the victims. it appears that most of the

victims today were students. but as gabe was explaining there, at least one of the victims is a substitute teacher, mother of three, and this mother of three, and this school resource officer severely hurt in responding to this incident. we'll see you on monday. now it's time for "the last word with lawrence o'donnell." >> good evening. we'll have chris jansing reporting live from texas in our hour here. >> good. >> you broke my concentration again tonight when i was trying to prepare to the show. you had to go back to nixon's enemy list and i had to turn up the volume. so extraordinary. that was a perfect guided tour through that period and what nixon was up to. you know, i -- as you know, i had a book come out last year about the '68 race, nixon a winner of it and a big character, i developed sympathy for him, and there's all sorts of ways you can be sympathetic