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>> a lot are surveillance techniques and tactics the u.s. has seen before the chinese before that they do oversees and domestically here in the u.s. some things american security officials are looking for the potential they will have waiters in restaurants and coffee shops and around the summit location and the hotel where delegations are staying. if you're out and your at dinner and talking about what happened that day, they might be listening and they can report back. other things they have done things that are covert and remind me of inspector gadget or 007. the trump summit in china in november of 2017, the friendship pins. the belief was they could have tracking devices in them. so you weren't supposed to wear them into a secure area. those are the things they are expecting and anticipating could happen next week. >> we have seen counter measures where they pop up tents or the nfl sidelines where you have coaches.

is the u.s. taking countermeasures? >> absolutely. there are already people in singapore preparing the locations not just where they will stay but meeting rooms where they might have pull-aside says and whatnot. the assumption is if you're anywhere around the summit there's a potential there could be cameras in the meeting rooms and whatnot. they are erecting tents. officials can go inside and read a classified document without any concern that a camera might catch it and get a photo. and they're warning people. be smart. >> people are never smart. ashley parker, you're a white house correspondent for the "post". a new sophisticated listening devices are being around 17th and pennsylvania that are trying to suck up every electronic signal in the vicinity. what are you doing about that as a reporter that has to live there? >> well, i mean, one thing is -- and this is not specific to

that. but just in this media environment, and i can't really go into specifics. but the "washington post", like i imagine just about every other major publication, we take as many precautions as possible from usingen cry en crypted mes apps. meeting people in person. not doing something over the phone. not doing something over text message or even an encrypted app. that is for our protection and our source protection. i can say on some of the more sensitive stories i've worked on, the people we deal with have a similar sense of i want to say healthy paranoia. it is not quite meeting in parking garages but meeting face-to-face off site in person in a pretty protective, proactive way. >> that is the new norm. josh, thursday evening there were arrests made at a long time

senate aide who had been allegedly passing important classified information to his girlfriend who was working at the "new york times". this will shake a lot of people up. what's happening to this reporter and the department of justice is continuing the obama era policy of going after reporters. >> you will see a bipartisan consensus about what they are doing. a lot of folks say the white house, the trump administration is taking tough talk but not taking action. well, this is a big change. and i think this is a chilling effect. it will have a chilling effect in terms of the relationship with this white house and the media. >> right. stories of the week. court an courtney, you and i had the same one, children at the border. legally or not, as refugee or seeking asylum, at the border there is a lot of heat coming. you followed quickly with a story you had been breaking

yourself. do you think that policy is going to change? >> i don't see any signs that it is. of course this policy is based on the zero tolerance policy, which is the administration's idea that any time someone comes across the border illegally they will be referred to the department of justice for potential prosecution. of course if you come across the border with a child, the child can't go to jail, be held in detention. so the kids are being sent to hhs custody. there are a number of federal facilities are hhs was taking care of these kids. my colleague and i reported this waoeeek they are holding more t 11,000 children. and many of them are held for upwards of 45 days before they are turned over to foster care, a relative or a family member who might be here in the united states. >> i han charge of 11,000 child,

this is a nightmare waiting to happen. >> we have it in our heads these might be kids 10, 12, 14. these are infants and young kids. this was a much bigger under taking for hhs than even they expected. now we are seeing they may have to put some at military bases, other facilities in texas. the question is can they continue to provide the necessary medical care, food, safe lodging that will be necessary for these thousands of kids. >> they have got to change this policy. ashley, what is your story of the week over there at the "washington post"? >> so we just reported that joe higgins, deputy chief of staff at the white house and the white house's point person on the ground in singapore, is going to be leaving the white house shortly after the summit. he is someone who the general public hasn't really heard about. a lot of people probably couldn't pick out of a lineup even. but his departure is relevant

for a couple of reasons. he has been controversial within the white house. on the one hand, he comes with a lot of experience from the bush administration. a lot of people who are sort of nervous about president trump point to him as an adult in the room, sort of a savvy, responsible person making grown-up and responsible decisions. so they are going to be sad to see him go. among other people, there's a sense that hagan was a bush loyalist and not really a trump loyalist. and that created some dissention based on some trump loyalists circulated a joking meme. it said make america bush again. the but basically his departure is another example of the president removing people or people who don't fit in leaving on their own accord and being replaced with someone eye dee logically and temperament alley

aligned with the president. >> your story of the week? >> the california elections. democrats can breathe a sigh of relief. they got all their candidates through to the november election. the real concern is some could have gotten shut out in primaries. a word of warning, there are very liberal candidates. they had to focus on getting them through. so there's a candidate who is single payer and very conservative south california seat. and also outsiders. a lot of people haven't been vetted politically. >> and the republicans picked up kim and royce's seat. >> two women. republican women mod rats. these are candidates that will link very competitive. it is certainly worth watchng. >> thank you all for being here. ashley, thanks for joining us from the "post". i'm going to ask arizona's

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welcome back. i'm hugh hewitt. monday through friday i'm found on the salem radio network 6:00 to 9:00 a.m. saturday mornings i'm here on msnbc. over the past few weeks, sadly school violence has come again and again to the news desk. one governor in america many observers think is one of the most effective. he joins me this morning from phoenix. governor, good morning. i want to talk to you because after parkland you started doing things in arizona before the san

t ta fe attack. has it gained the necessary momentum yet? >> good morning, hugh. thanks for having me. yes, i thought why can't we do something proactively? why do all of these programs and plans come in reaction to a tragedy and is there something we can do to prevent and avoid a mass shooting. so i brought parents, students, superintendents, teachers, law enforcement leaders, prosecutors and other elected officials and said what does school safety look like and what can we do to improve here? the most important part of the five-point plan, being the order of protection. so when you have a young person like the people that have committed these atrocities that we can go out and stop and look at them, look at the signals given off in the parkland

shooting. of the 37 visits from law enforcement. being identified by name to the fbi. posting on youtube that you plan to be known as a school shooter. yet law enforcement could do nothing. so if we are able to pass the stop order in the state of arizona we will be able to prevent and avoid that. it is a model other governors can take and reapply in their states. >> you got the nra to actually endorse stop orders, as well as educators, leaders, parents, and some students. why hasn't it happened yet in arizona? >> this had support across the board and then politics intervened. when you get the democrat leadership and even the republican leadership, off times it hasn't been about the solutions and what we can do inside the schools. we were able to do good things in terms of population of the background checks. so if somebody is adjudicated

with mental health issues or severe violence and dangerous felons, make sure that those names are on the background check. get dowers for behavioral health so counselors can be inside the school. the real tool that can be helpful in rare cases where there is an individual everyone is aware of is and scared of, that is the severe threat

protection order. stop governor. >> how is this coming from a republican governor? >> we were the first state to pass the american civics act. any student that graduates from an arizona high school will have passed the same test, the three branches of government, all the things we know and we learn through osmosis, coaches, teaches, scout masters that are not being test indeed school today. arizona schools are improving faster than any other schools in the nation in math and reading. so our teachers earned and deserved this raise. we have not raised taxes in the state. in fact, we have lowered taxes

in the last three years. we have a growing economy and have been giving resources to our teachers who earned this raise. >> we put it up on the screen to people can see this is not just an arizona issue. have other governors say we have to get back to basics. i don't mean how bill becomes a law. i mean what it takes to be an informed citizenry. >> american civics is a great place to start. az azgovernor.com. jay nixon of missouri was my partner in rolling this out. this is something that every citizen, whether they're democrat, independent or republican, should want our young people to know. i would encourage everyone to go take the test for yourself and see how you score. >> we were just talking about

trade and the border. i am a critic of the policy of separating children from their parents at the border. you have to deal with illegal entry, which is a problem. but also trade, which is welcomed. how are you balancing these two competing interests, especially in the age of narco trafficking, fentanyl. >> i am for border security. border security is national security. nowhere else has this affected a state more than the stated of arizona. we have been the epicenter of this discussion the last decade. they have been very responsive. we have the national guard on the border as we speak. at the same time, i believe in trade. mexico is our largest trading

partner times four. i'm working with governor to our sister state of senora. the trucking, transit, tourism, the trade that is growing arizona and america's economy can get back and forth over the border, not being impeded. we work on a cargo processing check. so these checks are checked before they arrive at the border and deemed safe. these perishable items can be delivered. >> the big question is in an rar of under 4%, what is it like in arizona? how do you keep growth growing? there are more vacancies in the united states than people looking for work. i'm sure that's the case in arizona. >> we are proud our unemployment is at the lowest rate in the last decade, we still have 100,000 plus that are

unemployed, that are being paid by our federal government to stay home and be idlement we want to move them into the workforce, work with health and human services to give more latitude. so when someone is down on their luck we can provide them a paycheck. but two week later, let's provide them a tool belt. we have houses to frame, drywall to hang, we need electricians, welders, plumbers in the skilled trade. we can take those not participating in the workforce and move them into the workforce. i think that would be awe great place to start. >> last question, govern or, california had its elections. >> we have an influx of people coming to the state of arizona. i just ask them to remember they left california for a reason. we have had over 200,000 people

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good morning, everyone. i'm alex witt here at msnbc world headquarters in new york at the half hour. here's what we're watching for you. new, the president right now attending a g-7 breakfast on gender equality. he showed up a little bit late this morning after friday meetings with the leaders of france and canada. he is expected to head to singapore in just a couple of hours, leaving the g-7 early. this for his highly anticipated summit with kim jong-un. on friday in quebec, he tried to smooth over tensions between him and justin trudeau after a combative lead-up to the su