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so where ever you go. we're right there with you. the powerful backing of american express. don't do business without it. don't live life without it. good morning, and welcome to "politics nation." i wanted to start the show today by telling you what i think about the recent supreme court decision to uphold ohio's purge of inactive voters, and the very dangerous precedent it sets months out from this year's midterm elections. but then, just two days before father's day, attorney general jeff sessions angered me to the point of fury by saying this to
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grieving migrant parents. >> having children does not give you immunity from arrest and prosecution. bringing children with you doesn't guarantee you won't get prosecute prosecuted. >> let me tell you what i think about this immigration 's the height of immorality. it's the height of insensitivity to separate children from their chains, to use children as hostages, to get your wall built in mexico and whatever else the president wants to extract in an immigration bill. tuesday he's going to the hill. leaders of national civil rights organization will join us to be
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in washington to call for an end to this. if not, we'll lead a delegation of clergy to texas to make a clergy visit on these young people who are being used as a ping-pong ball for an insensitive administration's immigration policy. joining me now, republican political strategist noel nick-paul. you know, noel this is beyond a partisan issue. george bush, who you disagreed with, never separated parents from their children. the defense of this administration is this is a democratic policy. no democratic president, barack obama, no one, has ever done this. how can they justify this in the name of, well, the policy was thereon but no one ever did this until now?
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>> well, that's true, reverent. happy sunday and happy father's day, by the way. >> thank you. >> what i do want to say, you're right, the law has been there. what sessions has said is now they're enforcing that law. yes, it's a shame. look, i represent the gop. there are people in myoparty who are furious with this. this issage emergency situation. serve consequence pizza, sit in there all nigh long and get this working right. these children are at stake. i think what's happening with my party, with the republicans, is the fact that trump and the administration has said, look, you've got to fund my wall, this is what i want. if you remember, reverend, he
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ran on that wall. remember when he came down the escalator and they were chanting "the wall, the wall." >> he ran on the wall, but did not run on i'm going to take children from their parents, and then the attorney general a bible verse, distorted interpretation, i might add, to really misuse the bible to justify something like this i don't think the american people he would use babies, i mean children, to get hi wall. fine, you want to build a wall, we disagree, but you're going to hold children hostage to get your wall? >> right. nobody likes that. as far as the biblical references, i'm certainly not going to argue with you on the bible, but i will tell you this, i think that bringing god,
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bringing the bible to, you know, make we're policies okay, or maybe these palatable i think is the wrong thing to do on either side. i would not be happy in a democrat did that to justify policy, nor my party the gop. i'm not happy with using a biblical verse to justify your policy. that all together i think is wrong. i will tell you this, you know, we need to watch out when people come across illegally, it's wrong, we don't like it. nobody is for illegal immigration, but we need to watch how to treat people when they come here, because america will be judged on how they treat people, and we're known -- america is known to be the great humanitarian. this is give to give is a really bad reputation if they don't get this under control. >> especially let us remember, noelle -- it's the same wee we
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see children separated from their parents, the same week we see this picture of a 2-year-old crying while an i.c.e. officer pats down her mother. we see the president praising the dictator, the killer of north korea. i mean, what kind of message are we giving the world? we can say that the head of north korea is a smart, gifted guy, because he took over his country at 26 years old? yeah, he took it over from his dictator father and grandfather, while you are taking children and putting them in camps away from their parents? what pictures are we giving the world? i hope republicans stand up like you just did. thank you, noelle. now i want to get to the decide of the supreme court to kick
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people off the phone voti -- vo rolls. congressman ryan, before i get to the vote -- and it came from a case in your state -- before you get there, where are the democrats standing up on these children being held hostage? i'm not pleased at all, because i'm not seeing the democrats stand up and show any ability to dram -- and we're going down to texas if they don't change that on tuesday. where are the democrats? do we think just sitting back releasing policy statements means something to the public? >> no, not at all, rev. hopefully this week when we're back in washington, d.c., we can try to force a vote on something like this. the reality is the republicans have all the power, they have all the control in washington, d.c., president trump, this is
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his initiative, his doing, and we need good, smart, kind-hearted republicans to stand up and say this cannot go on any longer. i mean, we are taking kids from their parents, we're housing them, basically incarcerating them. this is no way for us to run a country. president trump is constantly trying to do this. it's a very mean-spirited attempt. we're all for border security, making sure who comes into the country, there's ate find a process. that's the real problem here. there's a way to handle this. let's get people into the country. let's assimilate them, learn the language if you don't already know it, pay any back taxes, pay a fine and welcome to the united states of america. there's a kind-hearted way to do both border security and getting people assimilated, recognizing that diversity is our is
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greatest strength. >> and a decent way of doing it. in effect, if you did not vote of last election, if you notice if you're not in the next two, you're removed from the rolls, and any number of studies that any home state -- you're a direct in part of that state -- studies show it will dispropotionately impact lower income and minority americans. your reaction, and how are you going to act upon this? >> well, we have already seen before the 2016 election in cuyahoga county, which is cleveland, our friend marsha fudge's congressional district, 40,000 people were purchased from the rolls there in cuyahoga county. a vast majority of those people are minorities. this is a blatant attempt to
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disenfranchise black people. it's that clear. they know that if black people vote, if they have the access to the ballot box, that they push for the kind of agenda that goes against this right-wing ideolo,his trickle-down economics that has disinvested in the united states all along. if you look at what's happening from the immigration issue to this issue, the republicans are trying to divide us, reverend al, that's their whole goal, who is while, who is black, who is brown, who is gay, who is straight, who is from the north, who is from the south, he intentional -- the president of the united states intentionally tries to get us to dislike each other. >> us against them kind of political strategy. >> exactly. because he knows and the reps know when we all hang together, when the working class and the poor hang together, we drive the
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agenda. so we've got to come together, white, black, brown, all the working class, unions, come together and take our country back and start pushing an agenda that's going to work for the works class. >> i want t drive home the point you made. 40,000 have already been purged from the polls in cuyahoga county, which is cleveland, ohio. we are looking at mostly black voters, as you stated. >> yeah. >> the immediate impact is the midterm elections. while we're talking about the blue wave, the blue wave will hit some rocks if we see this duplicated around the country. so this is an immediate problem, not just the long-term impact it has, which it ao has that. >> right. we have a business senate race. sherrod brown is running a great race, he works hard, he
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represents the interests of the works class, represents the interest of the minority community in places like cleveland, better than almost anyone else in the united states senate, and of course they want to try to make sure those supporters can't vote for sherrod brown, so i think our reaction needs to be, you know, they're afraid of this big coalition coming together. they're afraid of high minority turnout. look what happened in alabama with african-american voters, especially african-american women voters. they don't want them voting, because scherr rode brown takes on the issues of the up trickle-down econics, because we're pushing for an agenda, how do we put $2 trillion back into the united states, rebuilding our neighbors, our communities. they have to cheat to do it. that's what's happening in places like ohio. >> thank you, congressman tim
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history was made this week in san francisco. that's when london breed was announced as its next mayor, the first african-american woman to
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win election to the city's highest office. i talked to the mayor-elect earlier. thank you for bugg being with us this morning. >> thank you for having me. >> now, you know, your election comes in a year that we hear a lot of talk about the year of the black woman certainly the year of the woman, but one of the striking things about your victory, and i know the bay area pretty well and i know a lot of my co-activists out there, is that you won in a city that is diverse. what can democrats around the country learn from your victory? >> i think part of our victory in this campaign had everything to do with focusing on the issues that mart ed what happen
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in the future, so focusing on what matter to people every day in their lives i think is what is most important to not just san francisco san franciscoens, but to people all other the tcountry. >> i was recently in san francisco and there was a discussion about you during the race. one of the things that was impressive to me is you were expansive, earp able to reach into various communities, but didn't make people feel you were abandoning them. this kline of inclusiveness i
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think was what was so very much magical about your victory. you are now the may yore-election, effective july 11th, of a major american city by doing the opposite of what we are seeing in the age of trump, by being include, not polarizing, not divisive. and part of the reason why i am who i am has everything to do with the circumstances i agree up in. i grew up in san francisco, in public housing, in poverty. i lived in public housing for over 20 years of my life without an opportunity to do anything different than what was around me. i felt isolated. taxi cabs couldn't come where i loved. many friends of where i went to school can couldn't come to where i love. that does something to a kid. i don't want people to feel as
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if they have to live in isolation or that they don't belong somewhere, especially because we're all human beings, and what's important to remember is that part of our responsibility as america in general is to take care of one another. that's how cities and communities are created, is through the people. part of our responsibility is to work together to try to make sure that everyone succeeds, and has everything to do with how i was raised, my grandmother, who took care of the community. we didn't have much, but she still felt it was her responsibility to take care of the community. >> that's certainly inspiring to a lot of people i'm sure watching this morning. san francisco is a sanctuary city. there's a lot of threats by the president about sanctuary cities, the justice department. under you, madam mayor, what will happen with immigration?
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what will happen with the status of sanctuary cities. >> san francisco will continue tore a sanctuary city. the immigrant population of our city is a part of our community, a m of the fabric of san francisco, but what makes our country so amazing. we as a city have an obligation to do everything we can to protect all of our rents, whether they're part of the immigrant community or knit other part, so i plan to continue that. well, we are very happy to have had you here this morning, and certainly we congratulate you, and certainly you'll by celebrated. knowing from your reputation, you'll be going to work before then and right after that. a tremendous victory for women, for the country, and certainly, london breed, you will be one we will be watching, and i'm sure
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continue to make us proud. god bless your grandmother. i didn't notice that part of you. that's very inspiring. >> thank you so much. an honor to talk to you in this way at this time. all right. london breed, mayor-elect of san francisco, california. up next, my growing concern off ignoring the truth when it comes to what our children are learning in school especially. you're watching "politiciac"pol nation." oh. hey mom.
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and now for this week's gotcha. in the coming months, the michigan state board of education will vote on proposed changes to the state's social studies curriculum for its k through 12 students. the changes are based on recommendations from a 2017 focus group. that group included gubernatorial candidate pro-trump state senator patrick calbeck. according to a bridge magazine in michigan, the
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ultraconservative and others felt students needed a more balanced perspective as a result, references to lbgtq rights, climate changes and the roe versus wade decision were either cut or reduced, and among calbeck's subjected subtractions, the removal of the word, quote, democratic from core democratic values. brew the kicker for yours truly is the new curriculum would -- after he suggested that educators depict the early kkk not as anti-black, but rather an
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anti-rep, because many emancipated blacks were loyal to the gop of the post civil war era. the campaign issued a news release wednesday criticizing the coverage as misleading and explaining his participation was intended to, quote, provide balance on a committee of individuals recommending a variety of viewpoints. that's cute, mr. state senator, but understand this fallacy that today's gop at all resembles. the abolitionist rep party of the civil war is not balanced education. it's just a dog whistle to allow conservatives, trumpers like yourself especially, to continue to lay claim to a heritage that we both know you would not have supported. so lay off the kids, and learn
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as i mentioned earlier, i will be visiting immigrant detention centers in texas and california later this week. several ministers will join me or have call for others to join, one of whom you will hear from shortly. in one voice, we challenge attorney general jeff sessions
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to come and join, or at least not block these visits, to confront firsthand the trauma inflicted by the administration's family separation policy on dozens of my grant children, sleeping in facilities more akin to prisons than to preschools, all while congress gives up for two crucial house votes on immigration later this week. joining me now is democratic illinois congressman luis gurtier. no one has championed this issue around immigration more than you. the president is going to the hill tuesday, many of us leading national civil rights organization to be outside demanding they stop this separation. what are the democrats going to do inside? you have been telling them, stand up, where is your backbone? we haven't seen it. do you think we'll see it this
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week, congressman? i hope so, but i'm not counting on it, reverend. a, happy father's day. >> same to you. >> it's a good day for us, an important day for us, a day of transformation in our lives, right? i don't think so, reverend. i don't think so. look, you see their election year strategy to win the midterm elections, that is keep their jobs, right? is to be as vicious and as cruel as you can be to immigrant. what's happening on the border is one of those manifestations, so they can say to their base voters, look what we are doing, look how we're keeping them down. so it's to use the pen ophobia, the bigotry, hatred and fear of immigrants in order to stoke your voters base. that's wrong, and that's what they're doing. thank you, reverent, for visiting those detention centers today people are visiting them
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in texas. when the president of the united states of america says on repeated occasions, says the democrats are the ones who are dividing the families, they are the ones who instituted these rules, that's -- when he has to blame up, you know, usually he takes responsibility for hateful actions. not in this case. the heat is on. i think it's the power of people. i think there is a tipping point here i think the children is a tipping point. more importantly than what we can do in congress is what we can do in terms of our public action and advocacy and being a moral voice for america. >> and that's what we're trying to enter into to bring clergy down to. i mean, gangsters, mobsters are
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allowed clergy visits. i'm going to see whether they'll allow children, who are being held as hostages, to get a wall built in mexico, because that's what this president is saying, we will do this if you give me my wall, if you give me this or that. these children are being held as hostages, clearly they can get a clergy visit, because they have got to traumatized, but remember, this is an attorney general that said that women, with their children, fleeing, coming and seeking asylum in the united states, fleeing murder, rape, torture, um, that that is a private matter. revere reverend, in the united states of america, a long time ago we made sure this is a public matter. it's a against the law and good men and women of common decency
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know we have to stands up when women andes are abused. this is not a private matter, but that's what he says it is. let's remember, which is the same jeff sessions, when he was a u.s. senator, voted against violence against women act, right? so he pretty consistent he hand stood up for women. priority matter is when you pay a porn star and you have to hire a lawyer to -- this is a public matter when you get police involved and you send people to jail. it's against the law. >> we're going to fight this. i both of us ended up going to jail, but you know we won, reverent, we did win. you know how we won? we were consistent and persistened.
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while nation remains shocked for the separated parents, i and many other in the pastoral community are utterly disgusted by this administration highting behind a bible to justify its cruelty. >> i thought i would take a digression here to discussion some excerpts raced by our church friends. joining me is preeminent pastor james forbes emeritus of
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the river side chump in new york city. is that corrupt further you just heard used appropriately and is it something that we ought to allow the american public to feel is the proper interpretation of the gospels? >> the use of scripture, romans 13 -- i just brought this -- i don't usually bring a prop, but if you can read this book, you can't take one little piece out of the context just to justify a political gain you are play iini know that mr. sessions is a sunday schoolteacher but you need to teach people you can't just teach once piece. one, the golden rule. this is father's day.
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father that do not treat others as they would be treated may end up fighting out that one day, depending on how things go, your children m be teak away from you and squirrel away like these kids are being taken. every father needs to recognize that what goes around comes around. you take these kids from their parents, somebody may take your kids from you in the course of time. sectly, the bible, the one his too muches every sunday says, if you mess with these kids, it would be better for you to be in the midst of a ocean -- >> matthew's. >> i know you know the text. so i thinked important thing that we need to say to people is listen, folks. don't use the bible to play your
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dirty games, your dehumanizing games, your political tricks. god is watching. i think the significant today is in america, what we did to children in slavery actually may account for much of the dysfunctionality in my family. first things the slaves did is break up the family. i remember a song that said, where the slaves were crying out, mama, is master gonna sell you tomorrow? that thing hurt me as a kid, so here is a situation where politicians are playing with folks, they don't know when you separate families, you begin to destroy the fabric of the society itself. whether you're democrat or rep, don't break up the family, don't disregard, don't disrespect
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family, you are tearing up the very nation we love. >> interesting he also trying to use the bible to say obey the laws of the government, when the first thing they did when they came in is not obey the affordable care act, which was law or the voting rights act, which was law. even if you use the bible, jesus was criticized, because he healed a man by the pete of bethesda, and he said it's against the law to heal a man on the sabbath. i don't know how he's talking about jesus, who he -- jesus being -- was questioned for not abiding by the law at the time. >> reverend, i think our nation is beginning to observe that politicians will use anything, even god's holy book, but when they do that, they need to decide, is there a god? and is that god looking on the? people that follow that kind of
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politics may actually have to wonder who are you scared of? the leader you saw supporting in anything they do? or the fear of the lord is the beginning of wisdom. maybe you and i are both preachers. if there is a god, what is happening now is not unobserved in high places, and there will be consequences. i just pray for -- i just pray for the perpetrators of these evil policies, this separation. >> that's right. >> i pray for them. >> you referred to some of the songs of yesteryear. this tuesday is also juneteenth, a day many of us in civil rights groups will be in washington challenging the president. but you for the last several years at riverside marked jean teent day, but many americans don't understand juneteenth, what is it and have people come
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out and those who get to new york -- the graphic is up 7:00 tuesday night on tuesday night. >> juneteenth, man, is the day when slaves were finally freed in texas. that's where that holidays began. 1863 was supposed to be the emancipation proclamation. two and a half years later before general granger went to gav galveston and said, hey, folks, you have to let the people go. juneteenth is the day when slaves were finally set free 2 1/2 years later after the emancipation proclamation, and it began a movement that every june 19th, you get together to remember. folks tried to delay justice, but justice finally came. so that's why we celebrate. we will have singing, dancing,
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awards. >> june 19th is really the first day that everyone was free. we didn't see all americans free until the june 19th of 1865. >> we use july 4th, 1776, as the declaration of independence from the crown, but june 19 is the first day all americans were free. until then, we were partialized in our concept of freedom and justice. reverend barber will be there to speak for us. we're against to honor harry belafonte, and cyrus chestnut there and wyclef jordan will -- and it's going to be -- and we have wonderful dancers and speakers and proclamations, and we're going to dance out of the that place singing happy happy
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birthday, freedom. >> tuesday morning in washington challenging policy, and tuesday evening celebrating again juneteenth. the struggle continues, but the celebrations are in order. thank you, pastor forbes. up next, one organization that's making father's day every day. be right back. whatever you do to stay healthy. you might be missing something. your eyes. that's why there's ocuvite. ocuvite helps replenish nutrients your eyes can lose as you age.
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happy father's day. it's the day we celebrate the man who helped to raise, teach and shepherd us through life, but for many children, the absence of that father or at least that father figure has denied them that guidance. so today, i'd like to highlight an organization that is reaching out to engage, equip and empower men to be there. joining me now is kenneth braswell, executive director of fathers incorporated. ken, tell people about what you're doing. we hear so much about the fathers that are not there, those that have come up in the single parent home, like i did, but we don't hear enough about the fathers that do stand up and
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do the right things and do, against all odds, try to help do what is right for their children, or the organizations like yours that prepare them to do that. >> well, first of all, good morning, reverend sharpton, thank you for having me on and happy father's day to you. >> thank you. >> when we began this work some 14 years ago in new york, and like you, i grew up in brooklyn without my father. i did not meet him until i was 23 years old and shortly thereafter, he passed away, and so all of the questions that i had for him was buried with him on that day, and when my second daughter was born, i decided that i really wanted to do work in helping men, because i was going through my own struggles with the mother of my youngest daughter, and was dealing with child support and custody and those issues, and decided to kind of do this work, but what i learned in doing that work around child support and custody and visitation, that those were just symptoms of larger matters
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and matters of them not being able to find jobs and not having the right education and not being able to communicate, and so we decided to kind of do this work so we could help build the capacity of fathers to help do the things they desire to do. in an ad council survey we did we learned 97% of all dads believe the day their child was bo born was the best day of their lives. using that as a premise we decided what we wanted to do is to work on a celebratory side of being fathers because we want to be there so we know the images that we see today with respect to fathers in the media and in the broader society, but we also know that particularly for low income african-american fathers, they are, according to pew research, the most engaged cohort of cads of all dads in this country. they spend more time changing diapers, they spend more time
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reading, they spend more time in intimate engagement activities with their children, and so that is what we do from day to day to elevate this conversation we do this every father's day, and really raising the celebratory spirit of fathers because we spend the other 364 days dealing with the problems and the issues. today i believe is a celebration for fathers. >> so today is to celebrate and is to really exalt in many ways fatherhood and those that have really rose to the occasion. >> absolutely, because the narrative so much is about what we believe to be the negative side of fatherhood. there are fathers out there doing awesome jobs with their children, doing what they're responsible for doing, in their children's lives. each and every day during the school year you can stand out in front of a school across america
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and see the legions of dads bringing that are children to school. you can go to recitals and see dads there, be on the play field, see them cheering for their children. dads are showing up. i personally do not believe that there is a missing father. there is a displaced father. >> i think that's why what you do is important. i wanted to make sure we highlighted it on father's day. thank you, kenneth braswell. up next, my final thoughts. stay with us. but on the insidel chronic, widespread pain. fibromyalgia may be invisible to others, but my pain is real. fibromyalgia is thought to be caused by overactive nerves. lyrica is believed to calm these nerves. i'm glad my doctor prescribed lyrica. for some, lyrica delivers effective relief from fibromyalgia pain... and improves function. lyrica may cause serious allergic reactions, suicidal thoughts or actions. tell your doctor right away if you have these,
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week before last, i spoke at oxford university in london, england, and i talked about the challenge worldwide was this rise of nationalism, white nationalism throughout europe and the united states from trump to brexit, and that young students of prestigious schools like oxford had to deal with whether they will embrace hegemony or diversity. nothing brings that more front and center than what is going on with these children being separated from their parents in this immigration fight, because make no mistake about it, if they were not children of clr, they were not children from
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latin america, i do not believe we'd be having this debate. you notice the president attacks trudeau of canada but he's not separating people at the canadian border. it's the mexican border. it's always us against them. it's color differentiation. we have to build a world that gets back on track where all children and all people are treated equally, and where we are judged by how we respond with justice to one another, not how we respond with enforcing and building walls that protect us from our own insecurities, rather than having policy that can protect us, but at the same time enhance us morally as well as politically. that does it for me. have a happy father's day and
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thanks for watching. to keep the conversation going, like us at fa facebook.com/politicsnation. now to my colleague, alex witt. >> i'm happy to wish you a father's day. i loved learning about the meaning of june, what's it, 19th? june teenth. that is extraordinary. i had no idea, it is an amazing date. i loved it. >> it's a very important date and i'm glad you learned it. that's why i watch alex witt because i learn something from you every day. >> give and take in this relationship. thanks, rev, have a good one. i'm alex witt at msnbc world qua headquarters. my grants try to cross into the u.s., new reports of

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