tell televise holliman during the break sometime soon that does it for our hour. i'll nicolle wallace. "mtp daily" starts right now. >> thank you nicole. am i supposed to keep track of how many days in a row you are wearing black. >> this is my baby jail dress. >> okay. don't know where to go with that. >> good luck. >> okay. if it's wednesday, under pressure. president trump actually reverses course. tonight an executive order to end family separation at the border. why this still won't zero out the president's zero tolerance policy. >> we are keeping a very powerful border, and it

continues to be a zero tolerance policy. we have zero tolerance. >> what does it moo enfor families already torn apart if children can finally reunite with their parents, then when and how? we want to keep families together. >> plus, where does this all leave immigration solutions on the hill. >> we are also wanting to go through congress. we will be going through congress. >> this is "mtp daily," and it starts right now. ♪ good evening i'm chuck todd here in washington. welcome to "mtp daily." to put it sum ofly, it looks as if there was zero tolerance for the president's zero tolerance policy. and he seemed to have realized that at some point today. we have all seen the pictures. but hours after reports that very young children, babies in some cases, were being separated from their parents and held at something called a tender age shelter because of the

president's border policy we saw mr. trump meet with congressional republicans at the white house and announce his intent to basically suspend that policy. this afternoon he signed an executive order stating that it's now the administration's policy to keep families together. the order also attempts to pin some of the blame on congress. the order is titled, quote, affording congress an opportunity to address family separation executive order. yes, they misspelled the word. it was included. here's the president. >> we are going to have strong, very strong borders, but we are going to keep the families together. i didn't like the sight or the feeling of families being separated. this will solve that problem. at the same time we are keeping a very powerful border, and it continues to be a zero tolerance. we have zero tolerance for people that enter our country

illegally. i think anybody with a heart would feel that way. we don't like to see families separated. >> of course if he didn't want to see families separated you may wonder why he institutesed the policy in the first place. folks, this is a rare instance where the president actually yieldly public cle to political pressure. it is a big one. because for days this white house refused to acknowledge the obvious that families were being broken up because of their policy and they could act to try and fix it. >> wait, wait, you can't do it through an executive order. >> people say look you rynd these families apart. even though it's the law it's heartless. >> that's the law and what the democrats gave us. >> end it on his own. >> congress passed the law. congress and the courts created this problem, and congress alone can fix it. they can fix it tomorrow. >> there is only one body here that gets to create legislation, and it's congress. our job is to enforce it. >> does the president acknowledge he has the power to

fix it? >> i think at the end congress has the four the pick it. >> until nearly noon today it looks as if this white house had no intention of yielding. the attorney general wrote an op ed in today's u.s.a. today defending the policy. crushing political pressure, which included crushing poll numbers arc wake up call from ivanka and pleas from their allies in congress the make it stop. >> fit continues it's going to make us look pretty bad. i'm going the try to see it doesn't continue. we should never play with lives of these children. >> rather than announcing a policy that blew up in their face they should have brought us down republicans and democrats and said i need your help to change this. >> the white house can change it in five minutes and they should. it is a mistake. >> we are horrified. this has to stop. >> if you think this story is over, think again. the administration now has to implement the president's executive order, which means faeps are very likely going to

have to be reunited which could be a challenge in and of itself. parts of the order can be challenged leaguely. congress is going to have to do something. and president trump, well, he's president so you don't know what he is going to say even tonight when he is in front of a campaign rally in dedue lawsuit, minnesota. with me tonight is tonight's panel. pete, operationally, what is the law right now? what is going to happen at that border. >> if you go to the border and you ask for asylum. you will probably released with your family. that's been the policy. it won't chain. if the you are arrest ared crossing the border illegally under the so-called zero

tolerance policy you will still be charged with crime. that doesn't change. here's what does change. under the zero tolerance policy policy in effect until the executive order was signed parents were turned over to federal marshals. at that point the children were considered unaccompanied and they had to be sent off to hhs and separated from their parents. now the parents will be in the custody of i.c.e., immigration and customs enforcement all the way through the court proceedings until they get back to wait for their immigration hearings. so they will never be separated legally or as a practical very long from their children. that's how they get around that that's why zero tolerance will still be in place. the second thing is, the families will be detained together in family detention centers. some of them will be fairly nice. some of them will be sort of like jails like we have been seeing, and the executive order says if the government runs out of room they will ask the defense department to lend a hand and come up with some more space. here's the other change. the executive order says that

the justice department has to ask a court for relief from a long standing court order that says children cannot be detain in immigration custody for longer than it takes the find someplace to put them. some alternative arrangement. as a practical matter the court has said that's 20 days. so the government is going to try to get the court to release it from that 20-day restriction. there are also bills in congress that would change the law and preempt that court ruling to change the 20-day. that's the other big change here. the third one is families in detention will move to sort of the head of the line waiting for hearings for their immigration cases but that still may take months. >> is it retroactive. the ap count had 2,000 children separated in the six-week period. maybe it's up to 2,500. this are the row active so they have to begin reunification immediately or is this just

going forward? >> i think we don't know the answer to that. the people we talked to in the government don't know the answer to that either. >> that's a bit alarming. >> it was put in lays without a lot of thought to that a executive order was signed without a lot of thought either. i don't know how the reunification will work or what the process is. i think they have to feel their way through that. obviously they won't face that for the people that they keep together but the ones that have been separated under the zero tolerance policy for the last month and a half they are obviously scrambling to try to get that together. and some of the advocates for immigrants say they are not doing a very good job when they hand these people off to dhs and in turn off to contract people that keep them. they sometimes lose track. i should also say there are lawsuits pending right now to get the government to clean up its act on this. >> that's probably what they are also fearing that the courts are going to make them do that. pete hangan here. guys, which was president trump earlier today before he signed

the executive order. but when he said hinting at why he was going to sign the executive order. here he is. >> if you are weak, if the you are weak, which some people would like you to be -- if you are really, really pathetically weak, the country is going for overrun with millions of people. and if you are strong, then you don't have any heart. that's tough dilemma. perhaps i'd rather be strong. but that's a tough thdilemma. >> trump called the arsonist who now wants to play fireman by signing the executive order. and she says, quote, anything to boost his fragile ego. what do you make of this capitulation? >> why he is putting a lot of pressure back on the congress to clean up my mess. and by the way, you are going to get blamed for it in the first place and in the last place.

so you see the president finally coming around and signing this executive order. but the underlying fault line still runs itself to his desk. and that's something that they are going to have to deal with over the succeeding weeks because this doesn't end. you already asked the important question, is it retroactive? how do those in the system currently get attended to versus those who are coming into the system new. >> is the party about to break on this one? >> it was. >> this the one that was going to break. >> congressional republicans wanted to dump donald trump for a long time but their base wasn't going to let them. i think the base was going to let them. >> the base? or everybody else not in the base was giving them cover. >> there is a certain element in the republican base that was comfortable with the policy. >> 26%. >> but base republicans were horrified by this. i saw republicans of him taking

calls from conservative districts complaining about this. >> mark meadows. when he flipped i thought wow. >> this was a point where republicans in congress because they had cover from their districts were going to flip on the president. that game glaringly evidence to the white house. >> jon meacham, the first guardrail that's been erected. yes, at the ring of being seen as a quizling i don't think we can spend a week demanding something happened. it basically happened and then say well he was the arsonist -- the president laid out a false dichotomy of the strength and weakness. although he only speaks in terms of strength and weakness, not right and wrong. but this is what this system is supposed to do. if the government gets something wrong we are supposed to speak out, we are supposed to talk about it and we are supposed to change it. >> it wasn't a close call, no matter how you ask the he request. cnn

we see some consistency here, two thirds of the country. veto proof. >> the point sarah made is an important one of i think probably that small -- that base, that number is the one that started to change. that's where the shrinkage really began. because all those other republicans were already outraged. the watch for those member of congress was how are those folks in the district who have been card carrying hard charging trumpers from the very beginning going to respond? when that started to crack it touched the white house and it touched the congress. >> the challenge of course is that the damage is done. the damage is going to continue for weeks and months because there is going to be tragic stories unfortunately when up 2,000 or 2,500 families some are going to fall through the cracks. >> odds are. yeah. >> there is going to be press coverage of this for months. it's good that the white house reversed course. they needed to. but politically this was to me one of the darkest hours of the republican party.

>> there is a tremendous both piece a. blow torch to the tinder stoking racial tension is a feature of trump's presidency. buried in here, he says republican pollster, in a government of the people by the people and for the people it hopes to have a majority of the people behind you when you are trying to do things like this. and he didn't. >> he didn't. and depending on the details of the order, we have made progress this week. our better angels have had a pretty good day. and i'm not saying we therefore have a party for him. but it seems to me that reason requires us to acknowledge that the political class in this country just spent two weeks, whatever it's been, object sissed with this. >> uh-huh. >> and -- obsessed with this. >> uh-huh. >> if in fact because of what the president has done to correct a mistake he made, if these children -- if it's really

about these children, if they are going to be back with their parents then this is a good day. >> can we -- >> go ahead. >> can we get back to realism here.to the point about that la sentence, up to this point, trump didn't didn't need the we the people. he didn't need all those people. he operated with a very small minority doing some pretty outrageous stuff. so it wasn't until the people saw the pictures. >> the pictures were everything, i completely agree. >> until the narrative changed with the photos of children crying at their mother's knee that changed those phobe. >> the k word got thrown around. when i say the k word to a former bushie, i assume you know what that means. it was trump's ka a. do you buy that, it was that sort of a moment. >> it was in many ways worse that are katrina. ka a was bad for the president but katrina ultimately got -- it took many months to get past it.

i think this is going to take years for republican party to get past it. >> does this break immigration permanently? >> i think it goes one of two ways. it break it because the tension is so high, already higher than it was on capitol hill. however, you know, republicans are feeling enormous heat on this issue, understandably so. and props we will see people come to the table in a way we haven't. i'm not that hopeful. >> to go to phil rucker's point, this is their argument, stoking racial tension is a feature of trump's presidency. buy it? >> sure. it's -- hell, it's why he's president. how did he become the darling of the right wing after being a new york democrat? he trafficked in one true lies about the birth place of the 44th president of the united states. why would any of us be surprised that's going to continue to carry on with a strategy that got him to ultimate power.

>> the steve king quote in this piece, steve king says the president doesn't focus on culture enough. quote, steve king, i don't hear this president speaking about race but for me there are cultural distinctions that matter. whenever you import a great number of peoples you import the culture, too. for some in trump space, michael steele, this is the presidency. >> ts the trump presidency. >> that's the fight. >> the fight right there. it goes to something i and a few others have been saying for weeks and month now is browing of this country is changing how white people are looking at the country and changing to how they are responding to what they are seeing. it's born out of fear, it's born out of economics. it's born out of a whole lot of thing. but it is a trendline that is inevitable, number one. the question for us as we the people is how did we now gird ourselves to remain america,

uniquely american, while we recognize these changes and figure out how we embrace them. because we have had to do it in the past. >> read jon meacham's book. >> what do you think i'm looking at. >> i don't want to succumb to him. we have done this with the irish, with the jus. >> we have done this before. >> we keep repeating it offer and over again. >> we do. >> you guys have to stick around. pete williams i will let you go. you have a bunch of work to do for nightly. we will see you there. up ahead, the executive order is signed. what happens neb to the children at the border and on capitol hill? we will be live in both places next. to get excited about things like concert tickets or a new snowboard. matt: whoo! whoo! jen: but that all changed when we bought a house. matt: voilà! jen: matt started turning into his dad. matt: mm. that's some good mulch. ♪ i'm awake. but it was pretty nifty when jen showed me how easy it was to protect our home and auto with progressive. [ wrapper crinkling ] get this butterscotch out of here. progressive can't protect you from becoming your parents. there's quite a bit of work,

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will stop the separation of families at the border. but there are still a lot of questions about what happens next. on the border, what happens to the children who have already been separated from their parents? as we told you it's at least 2,000. likely more. how will they be reunited? on the hill, what happens with the bills that have been floated to address this immigration problem and more? the order itself says congress has to address this. let's go to both of those places now. gabe gutierrez is on the border in brownsville texas near one of those tender age shelters. and garrett headache is of course this the middle of the action in congress. gabe, let me start with you. look, the border patrol the head of the border patrol told me on friday if given the order they could move immediately. what's not clear is what do we do retroactively. what have you wlelearned so far? >> hi chuck. yes, since you were talking with pete the big question right now is how will those children be

reunited with those family members. immigration officials say it is not going to be possible that quickly. we are here in front of a so-called tender age shelter, casa presidente. speaking with a congressman who toured this facility earlier, he says that this is not what -- the "associated press" article seems to suggest these tender age shuller thes are entirely turn under the age of 10. this shelter in particular has about 80 children according to the congressman ranging in age from less than 1-year-old to teenagers. about half of them, or so, he says, were separated from their parents. i want to read you his account of what he says he saw when he toured this facility earlier this week. he says in one room there were about eight boys and girls ranges from 3 to 5 years old. they were essentially being instructed as you would see this any preschool class but the other room he was taken into had four infants all under the age of 1. two of those were with their

mothers, he says, teenage girls. the two others were 1-year-old and an 8 month old. one had been separated from her sister and somewhere along the way their mother had died. the other infant had been separated from her mother. he saw they were being fed by the personnel in this facility emt said the facility itself was very clean. but the question he has is you know, why these children were separated from their parents in the first place. as you said chuck, now that these children have been take tony 14 states, new york's mayor saying more than 400 children have been taken to new york alone. what happens with these children? with children this young how do you get information about who their parents are, how logistically you manage the reunification process. that needs to be ironed out in the coming days. >> you already heard about it from the congressman, you have one who is mother died on the trek. that only ads to the

complications. gabe gu tiers teerz, thank you very much. let me turn to garrett up on capitol hill. garrett, provsbly the president in the order essentially taunts congress to get something done on this. frankly, the court case that orders children sort of -- that the president claimed was tying his claims in the first place is something congress has to address. are they ready to address it? is it going to be stand alone? are they still going to try to insert it into a bigger immigration bill? >> chuck they are going to try to address it. there is pobs pro probably one and a half plans from the original half a dozen or so we were talking about last night floating around on the senate side. the one with the most momentum right now is led by thom tillis which has more than a dozen republican senators signed on to it including the majority leader. it looks like what ted cruz proposed earlier in the week. mandates that judges speed up the process and that families

basketball kept togethe in family shelters not things like the converted walmart. that's one piece of legislation that looks like it's ready to go in the senate. earlier this evening you had senators meeting to try to hash through whether or not there is something else the senate can do on a diplomat basis. several senators i talk to recognize the fact that this executive order only buys them time. it is absolutely not a lasting solution. the house side is a whole other problem. they are trying to deal with these two broad based immigration bills they are supposed to have votes on tomorrow night both of which look like they are in trouble despite the white house working very hard today to convince skeptical republicans this is what they need to vote for. >> i'm curious, garrett, i have got the sneaking suspicion that one of the reasons the president caved on this is he figured if he didn't it made it that much harder to at the time any of

these bills passed tomorrow. is that why he tried to get this out of the way to see if he could have a better shot at passing one bill in the house? >> i try to stay out of president's head, chuck, but i think there is a feeling wrong republican lawmakers now that this now gives them something to vote for. they feel like if they vote for one of these two bills, likely the leadership bill, this compromise bill it gives them a pathway out of this. look they can say we are helping the president with a priority of his, helping end this border separation never mind who may have started it that the president may have started it essentially with this policy but it does give republicans who may not have otherwise felt strongly about this issue or may have been concerned that the president might roll back on them or their base might accuse them of voting for amnesty can say we voted for this because we see these separations as an issue. but that might not be enough. the house tins to have the two bills as moving targets.

it's unclear whether any one of them will cross the finish line. >> dead on arrival in the senate. especially in an election year when mitch mcconnell is trying to win a bunch of red rural states. garrett haake thank you. ep ahead, when to take president trump literally, and when to take him seriously. maybe we have finally learned there is no difference after all. insurance that won't replace the full value of yoew car? you're better off throwing your money right into the harbor. i'm gonna regret that. with new car replacement, if your brand new car gets totaled, liberty mutual will pay the entire value plus depreciation. liberty stands with you. liberty mutual insurance.

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"tonight, i'm obsessed with" one of the more durable tropes of the 2016 campaign that we should take donald trump seriously, but not literally. surely, he doesn't mean all the things he says. in other words, pay no attention to the lyrics, just enjoy the music. maybe we had it wrong. he had tough words for immigrants and this policy for separating children from their parents has us thinking maybe we should have been taking him literally the entire time. remember this. >> donald j. trump is calling for a total and complete shutdown of muslims entering the united states. >> seven days into his presidency mr. trump signed an executive order banning foreign nationals from seven predominantly muslim countries caused havoc at airports around the country. the administration denies it's supporting a muslim ban except that president trump repeatedly has called ate muslim ban. we will find out from the supreme court whether that

mattered. then there is this. >> russia, if you are listening, i hope you are able to find the 30,000 e-mails that are missing. i think you will probably be rewarded mightily by our press. >> his campaign said at the time mr. trump was just joking. except now we have substantial evidence that the trump campaign was seeking russia's help in defeating hillary clinton. in fact, when this clip aired they had already asked. and motion famously there is there. >> we will mr. a wall. we will build a wall. oh, we are going to build a wall, all right. who is going to pay for the wall? mexico. they will pay. >> as we now know, president trump has been every bit as serious about building a $25 billion wall as candidate trump was. although it doesn't appear mexico is going to be paying for any of it unless you count renegotiating nafta as their way of paying for it. what else shall we now take not

just seriously but literally from the campaign? remember he called for criminalizing women who have abortions. he said you might have to think about it. he will said he was open to allowing japan to have nuclear weapons. talked about bringing back water boarding and quote a held health of a lot worse. quite literally this is something that maybe we ought to go back in the 2016 archives and say what else should we be taking seriously? we'll be right back. push the button. and get back to work. with an industry first, carbon-fiber shaft... lawn care has never been this easy... ...or this powerful. the new ego power+ string trimmer with powerload™ technology. exclusively at the home depot and ego authorized dealers. you might or joints.hing for your heart... but do you take something for your brain. with an ingredient originally found in jellyfish,

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last friday morning that he opposed the more moderate bill. then the white house issued a statement saying no the president misunderstood the question and said he would sign either of those two bills. last night the president told house republicans he is 1,000% behind the bill but never specified which one. and today well he caught chill off guard with his order to prevent family separations at the border after his administration claimed for days it was up to congress to fix this. what does this all mean for congress and house tomorrow. i'm joined by congressman jeff denham one of those advocating for a push on these immigration votes. he was a part of the discharge petition. you are back now. >> it's been a frustrating week. different things that have happened that i never imagined happening -- never planned on putting the rule forward for a discharge petition. but certainly now that we have

two bills competing on the floor tomorrow, a lot of challenges, still. we have got to get through this process. >> the family separation issue, was it a situation that it actually got more of everybody's attention on capitol hill and it was giving you momentum to get one of these bills passed? or did the president desisignine executive order today, did that i have go you more space? what has changed the calculus for tomorrow's votes? >> i would hope it would not relieve pressure because congress needs to do its job. it needs to be a legislative fix. the president said in the past an executive order doesn't solve the problem. i agree with that. even under the previous president. you know, executive orders did not solve problems. >> the judiciary branch already said so, by the way, this this case. >> with the floors settlement, there are still issues out there, legality issues with this whole executive orderard as well. congress has got to fix this. and we still have other challenges that are in this

bill. this does not solve our asylum issue with 2,000 people seeking asylum every week. unaccompanied minors coming across the border, this just deals with family unifix of those crossing the border illegally. yesterday the president has this meeting with you guys. i want the table the mark sanford question, and ask do you know which bill he was behind? was it clear to you? or were you hoping he was talking positivebly about the moderately supported leadership bill? >> it was extremely clear to me but as we left the room i realized how many people heard what they wanted to hear. i think the president needs to lean into this, as well as speaker ryan. they need to lean into this and get more votes. >> i don't have a sense that they have? >> i think we are still a ways away. we have got to work this ole night tonight the make sure we have got 218 to pass this tomorrow. i would still be helpful that the democrats come on board as well. >> mark meadows, he just told us

the moderate of the two bills is not ready for primetime. he said two things were agreed to were not in the bill. what are the two things that he says are not in this moderate bill that he says he needs in order to get the freedom caucus on board j i think we were all very clear in the negotiations. first of all we took about everything that the freedom caucus was providing. and every day we came back the goal post continued to change. a whole new set of items. we continued to accept those, too. this is not the bill i would have written but it solves and protects dreamers from day one. >> what more are they asking for that you think is a bridge too far? >> it is not something they have been public with. again, we did everything that was brought up. it was done in a very honest fashion with multiple members at the table. what their new requests or new demands are are unbeknownst to me right now. >> are you saying they are not negotiating in good faith? >> no, they have continued to

come with new ideas every single day. that's been frustrating, very frustrating. even to the point we have continued to discuss the strategy on bringing these up. do you i about up a rule, then another rule, then a bill and another bill just to be sure everybody is honest in this oposal. >> are these gooils bills going to debt voted on tomorrow? it doesn't sound like it. i have watched you in action. this smells like something that gets tabled again. >> i think they come up tomorrow. >> the vote will happen? you will be on the record. >> yes. >> likelihood of package. >> it's going to be tough. we are going to be close. being on the whip team, the numbers were coming back very good. we have still got a ways to go. >> you got to this point because you led an evident to get a handful of republicans, centrist republicans like yourself to sign a discharge petition forcing votes on some immigration bills even more moderate than the ones you guys are working on. you witness ahead -- you guys

have backed off that evident for now. it's still hanging out there. >> yes. >> are you going to have to -- if tomorrow if both bills fail do you do back to the discharge paegs? >> the petition paegs was about a full debate in front of the american public and dealt with four bills. good lat had his bill and the president/speaker had their bill. then do you do a discharge on the other two bills that haven't had a vote yet? >> whasz -- i mean what's your sense? if you can't get to 218 with those two bills is it your obligation to go find out where you can get 218 if that includes the democrats? >> i'm confident the u.s.a. act will have 218 votes. i think it would be very bipartisan and solve the issue not only for deemers but also our border security issue. both of those are critical. >> u.s.a. act is not going to be voted on tomorrow? >> no. >> are you willing to fight leadership on if this fails? >> i have been spending so much

time with the parliament aryan. we will explore every possibility. i hope we have a resolution tomorrow and i hope the compromise bill not only solves our border security problem and protects deemers. >> i think there are some people in this country who say we are so polarized that of all issues, this one need a compromise and we are not in a position to have that happen. >> it's been frustrating, especially so on this issue. i enjoyed working with my democrat colleagues that we could fine a diplomat solution and i still believe week. immigration is a difficult issue. we have seen presidents of both parties, majorities of both parties that haven't been a i believe to tackle this issue. >> do you know what the president will support? isn't that the trb mere. paul ryan said to me, i am to

the going to put a bill on the floor unless i know that the president will sign it. yet the president hasn't made clear what the red lines are? >> >> i think it's clear what the fourilla are. they are part of the bill. deals with asylum, with border security. gives him his if you feel $25 billion as well as a permanent fix for 1. million dreamers. >> someone in his base are going to be yelling a mistake. >> of course. >> in the good lat bill as well. >> if the president hears amnesty, there is nothing you can do with it? >> we are elected to lead. regardless of the critics out there we should be proposing laws, making laws that actually solve these problems. just by doing an executive order just like the previous predent doing an executive order does knots solve the problem. it's going to take both parties coming together to find an american sligs. >> you are confident we will see a vote on the floor of house of representatives tomorrow? >> i'm confident.

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tonight in meet the mid terms, michael bloomberg is making a big investment into the democratic party's effort to flip the house this november. for him you have to ask is it really a potential investment into 2020? the "new york times" reports the former new york city mayor has committed to spend $80 million in the run-up to the 2018. he says he will back republican and democratic candidates for governor you about solely support democrats for the house. he has recently told associates that if he were to run for president in 2020, it would be as a democrat, not as an independent like his abandoned potential presidential bids or rain stormed bids of '16 and '08. does this signal he plans to throw his hat into the ring in to 20? we don't know.

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the panel is back. there was sort of an odd interesting little nuget. michael cohen resigned as rnc deputy finance chair. in his resignation statement mr. cohen writes, as the softn of a polish survivor, i strongly support measures that secure our boarders borders. children should never be used as a bargaining chip. >> that's the resignation letter. >> it's been upset that the trump family is no longer paying

his legal bills. that sounds like a final shot in an uncomfortable legal divorce. >> a final shot and more to come. this could be the first of a few that will come out of this camp. it raises the question of what is he prepared to say and do. if you put that in a resignation letter -- >> it was odd. >> i am surprised that the chair let that go out. >> i'm surprised to let it go out but he probably said he would do it any way. you get the sense people in the trump universe that is truly inner circle people, which he is, obviously. >> or was. i don't know if he is. >> fair enough, he was. for a very long time this is how

they doeal with each other. they speak in public to send a message thanand this was a mess being sent to current team trump that be careful here. >> it's funny you say that because i think last week, last friday in that crazy press where president trump on the north lawn. one of the things he said is he was my lawyer. he spoke about michael cohen many the past tense which we've learned that upset him. to sarah's point, this feels if they are speaking to each other publicly and it is a poke the bear back and forth. >> the other way of looking at this is if you use cohen, maybe it's time to change your policy. >> i want to move to another topic. david pecker, the publisher of

the national enquirer is subpoenaed in the michael cohen investigation. i want to quickly go to the michael bloomberg thing. rumored presidential candidate. he's put his lot in with the democrats. there's no more ambiguity about it. >> he's a brilliant businessman and keeping his options open. he's putting some money in a functionally political emerging market for him. he will be able to say if he wants to do this. if the house is democratic, i bought the drapes. whatever you want to say. he's an ambitious man. i don't think he thinks his story is over. >> i never bought into the idea

he was going to buy his way into being mayor of new york city. he proved me wrong. >> he's wanted to be president for a long time. he's looked at it seriously. he has some of the best operatives around. i'm not certain he's a brilliant politician despite his success in new york city because he's -- he can compete with bernie sanders on some issues. >> maybe. >> you can't have a certain size soda. how is that going to compete in middle america ? >> what's the constituency for him? >> you put up numbers earlier. 46% of the people out there are calling themselves independents. we talked about how this thing is changing. the reality is there's space for

him to play. the question is, is he going to be prepared to play the way he needs to play going up against someone like trump. >> social liberal, fiscal conservative. >> i don't know if that exists anymore. great panel. obviously, i wanted to keep it going. i have to take a break. the uproar over optics continues.

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the drama over the family separation issue. the white house has made a few mistakes when it comes to optics. she dined at a d.c. mexican restaurant add the border crisis reached a fever pitch. ivanka trump was blasted as this photo as countless families are being torn apart at the border. in one case, the administration seemed to get this message of optics. >> we are going to cancel and postpone tomorrow's congressional picnic. we have a congressional picnic tomorrow and i was just walking over to the oval office, and i said, you know, it doesn't feel right to have a picnic for congress when we're working on doing something very important. >> well these are the foes from the 2017 picnic at the white house. however you feel about the separation issue and how the government has handled them, images like these would infuriate a big portion of the

country not happy with the current situat yes, white house the congressional picnic obviously can wait. reuniting families that were forcibly separated by our government is not something anybody wants to see anything waiting on. that's all we have tonight. "the beat" with ari melber starts now. if you have time for a question as our expert and student of how things work. things are changing a bit tonight because of reaction around the country. i wonder why you think this is so different than so many other times this year where people have felt nothing matters. >> it took almost the entire elected republican party against him. that's what we found out. i say that, the entire elected republican party. whether it was ted cruz and mark meadows or paul ryan or larry hogan. it was all through the spectrum. it's if