is wrapping up his immigration rhetoric as desperate parents try to reunite with their children after being separated at the border. >> and mixed signals of meddling. a bipartisan group of lawmakers are voicing concern about the administration's silence about what moscow may already be up to. >> and president trump's son-in-law and seen year advisor jared kushner says the administration will soon unveil its middle east peace plan with or without input from the palestinians.

>> good morning, everyone. it's monday, june 25th. the federal government under president trump is now tasked with putting families back together after they were forcibly separated at the southern border. children from those families have been spread from maryland to michigan to california as well as shelters in virginia and what the washington post describes as cold institutional settings with adult who is are not permitted to touch them or with foster parents who do not speak spanish but who hug them when they cry. department of homeland security told nbc that as of june 20th, 2,053 migrant children were separated from their parents. a migrant lawyer says that people separated from their children are being told they can reunite with their kids at the airport if they agree to sign a voluntary deportation order now. in el paso a charity tells it's housing 32 immigrant mothers and

fathers who don't know where their children are. the parents were released. on friday the department of health and human services created an unaccompanied reunification task force and on saturday, asserted the united states government knows the location of all children in its custody and is working to reunite them with their families. and dhs says that 522 have already been reunited though yesterday the republican chairman of the senate homeland security committee sounded less than certain about how successful they will actually be. >> can you tell our viewers this morning that the trump administration knows right now which kids belong with which parents? >> that is what they're claiming. >> does the u.s. government have the skills, do they have the information to reunite these kids as first lady melania trump says she wants to have happen? >> so they are saying they do. we'll continue our oversight on that, but the track record in the prior administration wasn't

particularly good either. >> deflection. all right. so twitter was pretty ablaze this weekend during a drive to virginia's golf course sunday morning president trump calling for suspending due process rights for migrants detained for illegal border crossings, quote, we cannot allow all these people to invade our country. when somebody comes in we must immediately with no judges or court cases bring them back from where they came. our system is a mockery to good immigration policy and law & order. republicans have recently proposed increasing the number of judges to expedite the detention process for families including senator ted cruz' call for 375 more judges. president trump roundly le jacket -- rejected those calls on saturday. >> they want to hire now 5,000 more judges. so that a person puts the toe in the land that we have to go to trial. this is crazy what we're doing.

i don't want judges. i want border patrol, i want ice. we don't want judges. >> again, just to be clear here, cruz requested only 375 judges, not 5,000 to add to the 375 currently working these cases. and amid the fallout from the trump administration's family separation policy, there has been confusion within the federal government and second guessing from president trump who signed the executive order to end the policy last week. according to the washington post in private conversations with aides, trump said he wanted to sign a full immigration bill as part of an executive order which one administration official described as quote, a pretty insane idea. the president was told by government lawyers that he could not change immigration law by fiat and said a person familiar with the discussions. trump then demanded that an executive order be written that would end child detentions and cages and said he wanted it on his desk for signing by that

afternoon according to people involved in the discussions. given hours to produce a complex legal document, government lawyers crafted one that met the moment's political demands but only added to the confusion within the agency's task to implement it. >> despite the data that shows that undocumented immigrants commit less crime, president trump depicting the people coming here as violent threats to americans. watch. >> we're gathered today to hear directly from the american victims of illegal immigration. you know, you hear the other side, you never hear this side. you don't know what's going on. these are the american citizens permanently separated from their loved ones, the word permanently being the word you have to think about. permanently. they're not separated for a day or two days. they are permanently separated because they were killed by criminal illegal aliens.

these are the families, the media ignores. >> they can be killers, they can be thieves. they can be horrible people. the democrats say it's okay for them to be in our country. i don't think so. >> the democrats are obstructionists. they won't vote. they're total obstructionists. they don't want to vote. nancy pelosi, chuck schumer, they just want -- they want to use the issue and i like the issue for election too. our issue is strong borders, no crime. their issue is open borders, let ms-13 all over our country. that's what's going to happen if you listen to them. >> all right. joining us now from mcallen texas, our legal analyst, danny, great to have you with us on this morning. i know that you spent some time yesterday in federal district court. i should say friday, not yesterday being sunday. these legal entry cases were being adjudicated.

what stood out for you? what did you observe unfold over the course of those hearings on friday? >> reporter: what stood out to me was the conveyor belt style in which these cases are adjudicated. for the most part in federal court there's maybe one or two or three defendants waiting for their case. when you have a mass of 60 to 70 defendants being -- entering guilty pleas, being sentenced right there with the judge maybe spending a minute or two on each of their cases, that's the stuff you normally see in state court with lower level crimes. granted, this is a federal misdemeanor and misdemeanors are relatively rare in the federal system but the mere fact they are adjudicating so quickly and what jump out to me, to a person, every defendant took the guilty plea and when given the chance to speak in open court, those that did speak expressed an interest in just getting the least amount of jail time possible so that they could

return to their home country to their family back there. >> that's interesting stuff there. talk to me about the tweet from yesterday from the president in wanting to abolish due process in many of these cases that you witnessed on friday. what's your take on this? >> reporter: removal proceedings are not subject to the full spectrum of constitutional protections. but immigrants do have a 5th amendment right to due process. that due process means they must be able to at least state their case in an immigration proceeding. when it comes to children, they have a 14th amendment even stronger constitutional protection. in fact, the right -- the liberty interests in raising one's children is considered one of the most important constitutional rights in our country. and it applies to citizens as well as aliens who come to this country with their children. so they are entitled to a hearing, they should not be

separated or removed from their children unless they are what -- are unfit parents. that's according to state law with the idea that the state must show clear and convincing evidence that thearent has abandoned their child. the practical reality is that the law makes little distinction between being removed from the country unwillingly and legally abandoning your child. >> so from what i'm hearing it's not happening and it was completely out of line for the president to ask to go outside of due process for these immigrants that are entering into this country. all right. we're going to check back with you at the bottom of the hour. i want to go to an update on items seized from michael cohen. reuters citing a written order from the judge in the case reports that few of the items so far are from protected by attorney/client privilege. of the nearly 300,000 items

reviewed, only 161 are actually privileged. most of the roughly 3.7 million items seized from cohen are still under review. cohen's lawyers have until wednesday to identify which of those they believe are privileged. cohen is reportedly under investigation for campaign finance violations, bank and require fraud. has not been charged though yet with a crime and denies any wrong doing and continues to do so. in. >>ing us more, politics reporter. thanks so much for joining us so early. appreciate it. mounting pressure here for michael cohen. >> absolutely. >> to say the least. any indication that he would not flip? at this point? because according to tom arnold looks like cohen wants to flip. >> yeah, and i think what kind of exacerbated the pressure on him is the fact that he is completely being frozen out by the white house and by president trump, this man who he has shown so much loyalty to over the last

however many decades he's known him and so most of my sources who are close to cohen have told me that i you know, he's feeling let down by the president so certainly -- >> he's not feeling any love. >> exactly. >> certainly not on social media at least. and rudy giuliani didn't help when he said he didn't have a significant relationship with michael cohen. >> and trump was initially defending cohen. he was saying they shouldn't have raided my lawyer's office and so on and so forth but it's been radio silence so far. >> let's ask about another one-time close presidential confidante. pall manafort, could he be in danger of flipping? he's had a tough month to say the least. >> he has lost a whole slew of motions in washington, d.c. this is only one of two cases that mueller has brought against him but as far as the washington case it's not looking good for

manafort. with the witness tampering charges that we saw, so definitely and also add to that the fact that he is in jail now. it's very different when you're on super vised release and you're home versus when you're in jail. >> you're probably not feeling as confident as you are when you're free. >> great to have you with us. president trump could meet with vladimir putin next month, but would he bring up election interference? it's something that's frustrating a group of lawmakers on capitol hill. plus erdogan wins another term and it will come with expanded executive powers. those stories and a check on your weather when we come back. plaque psoriasis can be relentless.

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only heard an alarming silence from the trump administration about what moscow is up to regarding interfering in the midterms. in addition to how the white house plans on countering such efforts it comes despite the constant warnings from lawmakers on capitol hill and top trump administration officials that russia will continue to attempt to undermine the american political system. with many including director of national intelligence dan coats warning that putin has already begun. but the department of homeland security says it has not detected any specific russian attacks on voting machines or databases this year. adding to concerns from lawmakers that the department and intel community have not learned anything from 2016 nor is it equipped to deal with it this year. it is unclear if president trump will address election interference in his potential upcoming summit with putin. >> and the controversy over the lob

lobbyist of pruitt's condo scandal has emerged. lawsuit filed by the environmental group, the sierra club, jay stephen hart and his wife vicki who rented it to him for $50 a night lobbied ryan jock son to hire a recent college graduate they knew. interest that had not been revealed before according to the e-mails in august of last year, hart messaged jackson on behalf of coca-cola to oppose regulating a class of chemicals which are used in fridge ration air conditioning and aerosols. the e-mails appear to undermine official arguments that hart had not lobbied the epa while he was in charge. take a listen. >> let me ask you this. why does it matter when the ethics officials look at the terms of the lease to determine if it's ethical or not. >> why does it matter?

because you're renting from the wife of a lobbyist. >> we're learning new details regarding president trump's sudden announcement creating the space force as a new branch of the military citing people familiar with the decision. tru trump surprised many military officers with that announcement and was the culmination of months of frustration from the president over what he felt was a lack of pentagon action following his initial suggestion on the topic earlier this year. it also came despite publicly known opposition from the pentagon including from defense secretary jim mattis as well as the top leadership at the air force which currently oversees most of person's space operations. experts note that an act of congress is required to establish a new branch of the military. not something the president can do with the stroke of a pen. all right. let's get a check now on your weather with bill karins. >> good monday morning. two stories this week. one we're still dealing with severe weather and we have a

major heat wave that's going to develop across the country and make it to the east coast by the end of this week into the weekend. so for this morning we've already been woken up in the middle of the night by these thunderstorms in oklahoma city and tulsa. they slide towards the areas of eastern kansas and eastern oklahoma. later on today, about 9 million people at risk of severe storms. we have to watch out for des moines. northern missouri, the wind damage threat is high today with any thunderstorms from charlotte to columbia. maybe some isolated hail. then tomorrow we're going to do it in areas of the midwest from kansas city to chicago, 20 million people at risk of severe storms. we could even have a couple tornados in this area especially central illinois, watching closely toward the quad cities. let's take a look at the week ahead. this is for today. the sizzling heat is building in the desert southwest. then it will start to spread as we go throughout the week.

beautiful day today. bottle today up because it's only going to get hotter and then too hot by the time we get to next weekend. so wednesday, rain and storms will be in the ohio valley and then here comes the heat. there goes the 1 hundreds from arizona through north texas and kansas and by the time we get to thursday and friday, the heat really builds into areas like st. louis. nashville 98. 95 in the carolinas and 90s in d.c. and there's indications by the time we get to the end of the weekend and into next week we could have a stretch of mid-90s on the east coast all the way through new england for maybe a couple, four, five days in a row. >> safe to say summer has arrived because i was scratching my head earlier this week. it felt kind of cool. hard to imagine that we're toward the end of june already. >> yeah, 4th of july, it looks very warm across the country. you know, it's a ways away, but it's looking very typical. >> i'm sure we'll talk to you a lot before that. >> a couple times. still ahead, a magical day

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into the round of 16. congratulations to them. meanwhile, the first japanese player to score at three world cups after netting an equalizer in yesterday's 2-2 draw with senegal and colombia revives its campaign to reach the knockout stage eliminating poland with yesterday's 3-nil victory. here's a look at today's lineup for teams in groups a and b. it will be the last appearance of the tournament for saudi arabia and egypt which will compete to avoid finishing last in group a. this afternoon in group b, ronaldo and portugal take on iran while spain secures the top spot. you can catch all this year's world cup action on telemundo. it has been exciting. has not disappointed. let's turn now to baseball and the yankees looking to avoid a

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burgdorf. let's start with the morning's top stories, president trump continuing to ramp up his rhetoric over the weekend. he made this argument for a merritt based system. >> we need merit based immigration. we're taking in people that will never help us as a country. we need people that can help us. we want a merit based immigration system. we need safety at the border. we need the wall. the wall is going to happen. >> but a study released last year by the department of health and human services found that refugees brought in billions of dollars in government revenue over the past decade. the study found that refugees quote, contributed an estimated 269 billion in revenues to all levels of government between 2005 and 2014 through the payment of federal state and local taxes. overall, the report estimated that the net fiscal impact of refugees was positive over the 10-year period at $63 billion.

the times notes that the study was completed last july but never publicly released. >> president trump is also suggesting that the u.s. cut off aide to honduras and other countries. >> one other thing i want to do is you know, you take a country like honduras and so many others they're sending people into our country by the thousands, i think we should stop giving them money. i think we -- you know, we give them tremendous aide. why are we giving them aide when th they're letting people into our country. >> the united states has a trade surplus to honduras. u.s. goods exported was 5 opinion $2 billion in 2015 with honduras exports $4.8 billion in goods to the united states. last year the u.s. department of commerce dedicated $1.5 million for a customs and border management program focused on improving trade into honduras and other parts of central

america. the department of agriculture provided $47 million between 2015 and 2016 for two programs that deliver school meals to 53,000 students and increases agricultural productivity and trade. and the united states armed forces maintain a small presence at a honduran military base there. >> and resources taken away from drug smuggles cases in california. the assistant u.s. attorney who runs the major crimes unit in california reportedly e-mailed border officials warning that the um grags cases will occupy substantially more of our resources and added the office was quote, diverting staff both support and attorneys accordingly. now, a spokes person for the u.s. attorney's office says the district had been given the necessary resources and that number of drug smuggling cases is on track to increase this year. however, the chief federal public defender in san diego

says a number of the people charged with drug smuggling cases in federal court has actually dropped since the administration's zero tolerance immigration push. >> joining us now from mcallen texas, our legal analyst, good to see you once again. what goes through your mind, danny, when you hear that resources are being diverted from major drug smuggling cases to misdemeanor illegal entry cases? >> two things. based on my personal observations in court i'm not entirely sure what -- how many more resources are needed to prosecute at least the misdemeanor entry cases. those are conducted en masse, very quickly and in fact, u.s. attorneys are not even in the room. they're actually customs and border patrol attorneys who are cross designated as u.s. attorneys. it's interesting to me that there's this notion that will are not enough resources. it's the federal defender's office that could use more resources to interview these defendants and provide them

effective representation or better provide them representation. the second thought is this. the last administration, their initiative resulted in a decrease prosecution of lower level drug crimes, but an increase in the higher level drug crimes. in other words, they focused more on kilograms than ounces. so the real data point i'll be interested ultimately when the dust settles is what was the -- what has been the lessening of prosecution based on weight, based on amount of drugs being ferreted across the border. is it kilograms or is it the low level drug crimes? is it the mandatory minimums? what exactly is the data on the crimes being prosecuted now at the border by the doj and what resources have truly been diverted? >> so let me ask you from the time that you've been down there and i know you went to court on friday. what have you learned about the reuniany occasion process that is playing out?

>> reporter: in court we were in federal criminal court, which the judge explicitly said is a completely separate process from any reunification with your children. it's a question that didn't even come up in criminal court, but what we're hearing is that because these parents are released immediately to cbp and i should be clear, there was not one person who stood up in court and said i've been separated from my children. they did say they had children back in their home countries that they wanted to get back to as soon as possible and the general feeling was that they were entering into pleas and asking the judge to give me the least amount of jail time so i can get back home to my home country to my family who i provide for so we didn't get a lot of information from criminal court. what the real question will be today is how the new policy affects or achieves reunification, where it's done, the logistics and whether orbit it ultimately happens. >> and how long it actually

takes. i spoke to a couple that was fostering a child about six months or so ago. that child was in their custody or they were fostering that child for six months. the father was sent home after three and a half weeks, was deported after three and a half weeks. the daughter, six months later was sent home. so the reunification process even in instants like that took a very long time and considering the fact that she had a lawyer and she had an organization on her side that was advocating for her. a lot of these kids don't even have that. >> all right. thank you. >> all right. jared kushner is trying to make a unique strategy for procuring a peace deal in the middle east insulting one side in an interview -- consulting one side. in an interview kushner heavily criticized the palestinian president and questioned his ability. kushner who has no known background in the middle east politics or diplomacy has been tasked by his father-in-law with

securing a peace deal. kushner also took a page out of his father-in-law's play book saying that the administration will soon unveil its peace plan with or without palestinian input while offering no additional details or time line. palestinian leadership has refused to meet with u.s. officials since the trump administration ignited deadly new unrest in the region by recognizing jerusalem and israel's capital and moving the u.s. embassy with the palestinian side saying the u.s. is no longer able to broker a peace deal. >> now to the latest regarding president trump's possible upcoming july summit with vladimir putin. per russian state television, politicians and experts believe trump and putin will enter a secret verbal agreement where trump will agree to look the other way regarding russia's actions in the ukraine. there is a lot to suggest it may be true without elablating and in addition there are growing

concerns that trump who is known to dislike preparation and also agree to things on the fly despite what his advisors give him direction on will be played by putin who is known to have well rehearsed plans in addition to being a master negotiator. meanwhile during a dinner at the democratic campaign retreat, vice president of the senate intelligence committee reportedly was over here joking to the crowd quote, if you get me one more glass of wine i'll tell you stuff only bob mueller and i know. if you think you've seen wild stuff so far, buckle up. it's going to be a wild couple of months. >> great to have you back with us. let's talk a little bit about this likely summit between president trump and vladimir putin. are we likely to see something tangible come out of this liken a agreement on any host of issues that these two countries are facing whether it's syria, election hacking, north korea,

what are we likely to see if in fact this goes through and is the president likely to confront him about election meddling? >> we may very well see something tangible come out of this summit. the downside is that it will likely be to russia's benefit. >> that doesn't sound very -- >> because that would be -- i mean, that would be a significant development, of course. >> like north korea? >> exactly. the basic pattern we've seen with trump is that he favors one on one diplomacy because he feels like he's the ultimate deal maker but what have we seen for the u.s. out of his deals and conversations with foreign leaders? obviously we know that when it comes to putin he has a particular affinity for this -- >> soft spot. >> exactly. and so he may very well agree to certain things like lowering the u.s. troop presence in ukraine or coordinating with putin when it comes to syria. >> yeah. >> of course those things are not beneficial to the u.s. so it's really important here that he sticks to his notes. >> so do you think that this

summit with putin is more about the optics of it for the present versus actually getting anything tangible done or getting vladimir putin to admit to election meddling or anything like that? is it more like i sat down, we talked about this and that and we got some things done and look at where we are now. >> absolutely. and a lot of it comes down to the optics. it's about how will the media receive this? how is this portrayed to the public. >> and he knows everybody is going to be talking about it. >> absolutely and it's very, very unlikely he will get putin toe admit anything when it comes to russian election meddling. >> it will be interesting to see if he tweets anything out about how tough he has on russia saying he's been the toughest president against russia. >> and it will be surprising to see if it will be documented. we have no idea what was said between him and kim jong un and

we'll have to see if the same thing happens here with vladimir putin. >> all right. thank you so much. still ahead, everybody, president trump once again takes aim at senator john mccain. mocking the dying republican senator. >> plus, bill karins is back with us tracking the potential for severe weather this week. let's begin. yes or no? do you want the same tools and seamless experience across web and tablet? do you want $4.95 commissions for stocks, $0.50 options contracts?

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nobody talked to him. nobody needed to. it was a done deal and he walked in thumbs down. it's all right because we've essentially gutted it anyway. >> all right. trump who did not mention the republican senator by name has attacked mccain at recent rallies blaming him for the gop's failed effort to repeal the affordable care act. >> let's get a check on your summer forecast with bill karins. >> it's all about summer and the heat building as we go throughout this week and really hot conditions for the upcoming weekend. let's start with just the bottom line is when it gets really humid that's when it's starting to feel repressed. the humidity is going to pump up through the gulf of mexico, through the south and then it's going to head north ward. it's already starting today. 102 in memphis. will feel like. dallas, 105. it's been this hot just like this for the like the last pretty much month throughout the south. if you want the enjoyable canadian air, this is the time

we thank them for the cool refreshing air. it's one of those great mornings in the great lakes and ohio valley. temperatures will feel like 85. detroit, 77. syracuse 73. we'll be about 15 to 20 degrees warmer than this by the time we get to saturday and sunday. so let's talk about the late week scores. we'll track the 90s. the pink and purple color there. by the time we get to late in the week, 90s all the way up to northern wisconsin, starting to show up in the ohio valley. friday 98, chicago gets up to 92 by friday and then that heat will start to move through the ohio valley. i was looking at the forecast for washington, d.c. for this weekend. it looks like 92 saturday, 94 on sunday. and then that's going to continue well into next week. >> all right. thanks for that. still ahead, president trump slamming critics of his historic summit with north korea's leader. >> the president's criticisms and why conservatives say kim jong un walked away from the meeting the bigger winner.

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welcome back, everybody. president trump's historic summit with kim jong un was less than two weeks ago and the president says that those who used their constitutional rights and criticize it are un-american. >> do you trust kim jong un? >> yes. i think that i've had a very good relationship. we have a good chemistry

together. it's an amazing piece of property to put it in real estate terms. it's got unbelievable natural potential. we came to a wonderful agreement. it's a shame that the fake news covers it the way they do. it's honestly, it's really real it's almost treasonous if you want to know the truth because we signed an agreement, and the big thing that i meant, it was an incredible piece of paper. >> incredible piece of paper, so the details, notably regard steps in a time line for de-nuclearization, and they remain vague if they have even been hammered out at all. some things including the national review denotes kim the winner. it comes as trump on friday signs an official notice quote, talking about the national emergency saying, quote, the government of north korea still poses a threat to the

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♪ welcome back, everyone. joining us from washington, d.c., co-founder and ceo of axia's jim vandevite. what are you tracking over there? >> one big thing is this look at this paradox of the trump presidency. almost like two parallel universes spinning further and further away. on one hand, you have the president saying outrageous things, dialing up the rhetoric

on immigration and his critics and democrats in the media. more hyperventilation in response to it, yet on the other side, and you look at his poll numbers, he is doing better than ever. according to gallop, he is at an all-time high at 45% which is comparable to where bill clinton or jimmy carter was at this point in their presidency. you also look at the generic republican versus democrat. it's narrowing, and there used to be a democratic advantage. why? because republicans like trump even more today than they did a year ago. 90% favorable rating among republicans. his attacks on mueller also seem to be working. there was a poll last week. i think you guys talked about it a little bit on the show that looked about how mueller's unfavorable ratings have gone up 26 points in a year. those attacks, what the president is doing, he thinks it's working and there is some

empirical data to suggest he might be right. >> what about what hurts the president in 2020? talk about that. >> the danger is he is back in the same box when he won the first time. he is betting everything on this group of republican loyalists who will be with him through thick or thin. he is not going to win democrats. he is not going to win a big chunk of independents and it further radicalizes the politics and that's the danger we saw over the weekend. you have an angry america that is getting angrier because he brings out the sort of emotional impulses on both sides. he makes democrats even more agitated and he makes republicans feel even more defensive of him. so when you get into these issues like immigration, like the muslim ban, where there is an undertone and often an overtone of racism and race to it, you really do end up with these -- with this potential where there will be more and

more vitriol, and passion on both sides. it makes it almost impossible for congress to solve the problems that need to be solved. >> that would make sense. the president is digging in with his base so he doesn't lose a single one of them in 2020. >> what about your letter which i thought was striking? our politics are becoming more tribal, and in doing so, that explains where we are, and why president trump has the support he has despite the negative coverage and criticism. walk us through the rationale behind that. >> when we talk about tribalism in politics, it's that you have these two parallel universes where all you care about is what the leader of your party says and does, and you excuse any types of behavior because it really is us against them. republicans against democrats, conservatives against liberals and i would say trump gets that probably better than anybody in politics. he knows when he tweets and when

he says these outrageous things at events, it's going to drive his critics mad, but when it drives them mad or bananas, it makes his base like him more and want to support him more. and there is a very cynical dimension to this, and it can be cynical and successful, which is if you muddy everything, and if everyone seems like their hair is on fire, then nothing seems that important and everything seems plausible. when they think so about the robert mueller investigation, and it will all come out. he know that is. it comes down to, will his tribe stay with him? every indicator emphatically says, hell yes. they are going to stick with them. they have stuck with him through every single thing he has done and said for two years. the idea he won't, when it comes push comes to shove in the next few years. >> what about this week? >> there is a big story that will unfold by the end of the

week which is it looks like trump is going to go after china not just on trade, but he is going to try to clamp down on china over their, you know -- they basically steal our technology or force our companies to do business over there, and it looks like trump will go after china on that, and you will have another dimension on the trade war. >> thank you very much. to all of our viewers, you can sign up for the newsletter at signup.access.com. "morning joe" starts right now. ♪ listeniwelcome to "morning " it is monday, the 25th, and we have mike barnacle. we also have elise jordan,