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my thanks to doug, betsy and zeke. that's going to do it for this hour. i'm peter alexander in for nicolle wallace. "mtp daily" starts right now. chuck is back in the chair. chuck, it didn't take long for the president to start antagonizing our allies. >> apparently it does not. i have a feeling he's not going to stop, that's for sure. thank you, pedro. nice to see you. if it's wednesday, why is the president looking for loving in all the wrong places? tonight, the fate of nato. how president trump is taking aim at the alliance. >> germany as far as i'm concerned is captive to russia. >> plus, can republicans stop the president's trade war? >> i don't want to hamstring the president's negotiating tactics. >> and later, what if the midterm elections ran more like mad libs? this is "mtp daily" and it starts right now.
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good evening, i'm chuck todd here in washington. welcome to "mtp daily." we begin tonight with the unraveling of 30 years of republican party orthodoxy on nato, russia and trade. much to the benefit arguably of one person, vladimir putin. at today's nato summit in brussels, president trump trashed our allies, cast the u.s. as a financial victim of the nato alliance, he doubled what he wants nato countries to pay for defense, he slammed germany for being of all things too cozy with russia and he suggested the alliance is no good because of it. here's the president this morning at a meeting with nato's secretary-general. >> many countries owe us a tremendous amount of money for many years back where they're delinquent as far as i'm concerned. it's an unfair burden on the united states. i think it's very sad when germany makes a massive oil and gas deal with russia where
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you're supposed to be guarding against russia and germany goes out and pays billions and billions of dollars a year to russia. we're supposed to protect you against russia, but they're paying billions of dollars to russia. i think that's very inappropriate. germany is totally controlled by russia. germany as far as i'm concerned is captive to russia because it's getting so much of its energy from russia. >> look, it isn't new for a u.s. president to urge our nato allies to spend more on defense and less than russian gas. president obama's administration was pushing hard on that. but it is new for a u.s. president to publicly shame the alliance and attempt to turn his own voters against it, especially when the president is seemingly helping a hostile power that helped him at least in the eyes of some win the election. nancy pelosi and chuck schumer put out a joint statement calling the president's statements about nato an embarrassment. former secretary of state john kerry said they were disgraceful and destructive. we've heard senate democrats demand mr. trump apologize or some have accused him of having
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no sense of history and even others are worried he's beholden to vladimir putin. but the reaction from republicans has been, as you might expect, much more sa sanguine. some republicans are rallying behind him. >> he wants to make sure that they get to the full percentage, whether it's 2% or something that they need to be spending. in other words, put your money where your mouth is. if nato is weak, you've got to get it strengthened and this president is trying to do that. >> we value our alliance. we value our allies. but you've got to pay your own way, okay? america -- the american taxpayer has carried them on their backs. >> and once again the republicans who are publicly rebuking the president seem to be from a group of republicans not seeking re-election. >> the germans wouldn't agree with that. they are very strong people. i just met personally with
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angela merkel over there. and i have really the highest opinion of her. >> it just seems like the tone of what we're doing is -- is something that's not good for the alliance. >> nato is indispensable. it's as important today as it ever has been. we're reflecting that in a resolution we're bringing to the floor today an i think the senate did a resolution as well. >> that resolution ryan is talking about is nonbinding. it follows a senate resolution passed last night supporting nato, which is also nonbinding. and the senate took a vote today pushing back on the president's tariffs. but that was also a nonbinding vote as well. all of them speak to the anxiety republicans are feeling right now as their leader casts aside decades of party orthodoxy by slamming nato, starting trade wars and cozying up to putin. but the gop's willingness to actually confronting the president could be described by some as similarly nonbinding. let's bring in tonight's panel,
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danielle pletka, david ignatius and carol lee, national political reporter who doesn't just contribute here, she works here full time for nbc news. carol, thank you. mr. ignatius, you wrote about this this morning, so i'll let you tee off here. i feel like there's two conversations. dani and i were talking about this in the green room. try to have a conversation about the issues with nato and subtract trump's personality, but let me start the conversation this way. why is the president doing this so publicly? >> i think this was the diplomatic version of trash talking. i think he has convinced himself that destabilizing friends, adversaries, people in our political culture works for him. i think every time we go, oh, my gosh, he didn't do that, i think he probably thinks this is going the way i want. i think he went to brussels determined to pick a fight. he sat down at breakfast and
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action bam, these very intemperate sharp comments to call germany captive of russia is extraordinary. but i think he did it to put people off balance. the formal agreements seem to be exactly what you would have predicted. the private meetings were calming and nice statements afterwards. my question is what does he think he gets out of this? he disrupts everything. to what end? does he think this gives him leverage with putin? that strikes me as completely crazy. >> carol, you cover this white house full time. what's the -- sometimes it's only his calculus, there is no white house calculus. >> i think that's absolutely right and i think your one point that you made is you're onto something in that he relishes this but it also plays very well with his base. if you're one of the diehard trump supporters and you see the president over there confronting the europeans, who many members
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of the president's base feel are lecturing and taking a siesta while the u.s. carries the burden of a bunch of things in the world, then you like what you see. and so in that sense, you know, he is rewarded. i think the question is what is the long game? short term politically maybe it helps him, but long term, you know, i think we don't know what the consequences of this are and the way he's treating our allies, and, you know, whether those consequences show up before the 2020 election remains to be seen. so will he actually -- and what will they be? and will he actually have any -- >> dani, it seems he doesn't have a vision of what he wanted nato to be. what does is nato if germany is paying russia billions of dollars for gas and energy? why are there only 5 out of 29 countries that have met their commitment. the u.s. is paying and then loses billions on trade. does he have a vision?
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i don't think he has a vision what he wants nato to be. >> let's separate this out. you said rightly previous presidents, not just barack obama, but all the way back for years, and we could even say decades as have successive nato secretaries general. they're not paying more and more often, they're paying less and less. when they're paying more and more so slowly in the case of germany they're getting up to 2% in 2025. that's really not what we're calling a meaningful increase. so if donald trump had said this privately in the back room without the videos, we all would have said, hey, you know, presidents have been telling you guys this, come on, what are you doing? the problem was the relishing the fight. the problem was the tone. the problem was the way he delivered the message. and i think the man thinks to himself my hallmark is i'm not politically correct, and that's what people love about me. i'm going to tell you the way it is. okay. >> the anger at merkel seems --
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like i said, i had a foreign diplomat say the president seems obsessed with merkel, david. >> he does. i think part of it is a resentment of german success. germany's trade surplus is extraordinary. i think it is -- one thing that i've come to think about donald trump is that we misinterpret him if we see him as the young, art of the deal, the guy who was on top of the deal. the donald trump we're dealing with is the guy who nearly went bankrupt, who's scarred and wounded and has lots of resentments. and i think you see this play out in foreign policy. he tries to destabilize to weaken the adversary, to get a deal. but these are not big deals that last. they didn't in his business life. so the thing with merkel, i think he sees her for some reason as threatening, he sees her as a barack obama holdover. >> that's what i think it is. i think it's the obama holdover. >> she's also the leader of all of this. and so he's going to go after
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the top. but yes, i mean it's no secret they were very close. >> hang on a second. you can't just single out donald trump. again, let's separate the fact and the man. angela merkel is one of the least popular leaders in europe. she's unpopular inside her own coalition, that's number one. she has angered -- >> so is the president. he's not exactly popular in his country either. the only popular leader right now is -- i guess it would be -- >> barely macron. >> i would maybe go with the italy guy right now, for maybe a day. actually trudeau in canada might be. >> he's not that popular with me either. but no, seriously, merkel isn't that popular in europe. she opened the door to what a lot of people considered to be the most serious refugee crisis since world war ii. rightly or wrongly, they blame her for that. as far as germany and russia, i've got to say, donald trump is totally wrong about what the meaning of nato and the purpose
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of nato is. but as far as germany's attitude towards russia and the nord stream project that donald trump was talking about, buying gas -- >> by the way, joe biden didn't like that thing. >> spot on. >> so germany's dependence on russian energy has bothered people for a long time. i think trump was right -- >> schroeder's involvement has been really stinky. >> one of the telling comments today i thought was when merkel said, i've lived in a germany that was captive of russia. i grew up with that. and you could see the resentment she felt at donald trump talking about her free united germany as a pawn of a country that she as a child escaped from. anyway, i found that offensive. >> carol, mike pompeo -- there was sort of on earth 2, this isid in the last 40 years about
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nato. this is what he tweeted today. nato is the most successful alliance in history. all nato allies have committed to extending this success through increased defense spending, deterrence and defense, and fighting terrorism. weakness provokes, strength and cohesion row tekts. this remains our wedrock belief. >> there's the president and what he says an people around him and what they say. and traditionally whether it's the secretary of defense, james mattis, or secretary of state, they say what everybody expects and wants to hear from the u.s. when it comes to foreign policy by and large. and, you know, i think that the question of substance that you were talking about, whether there's a substantive change versus the rhetoric is -- if you're trying to latch onto something and you're a european leader, you're looking at the secretary of state and what they're saying and trying to focus on the substance in terms of -- rather than so much the
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president's rhetoric. >> by the way, isn't this now -- isn't it already now a done deal. nato is a disaster, danny, and the putin summit, by comparison, will look like a chummy affair. >> oh, god, i really hope not. that's what's being set up. >> i really hope that that's not true. look, nato needs investment. nato needs investment not just from the u.s. president, it needs investment from our european allies. it needs purpose. we need to agree on the kinds of investments that we need to make and the kinds of things that we're doing in a world in which the soviet union has been done for a long time. donald trump was not just wrong that it's only about russia, but he wasn't wrong that it's not clear what nato's entire purpose is other than to be an alliance. it's kind of us. but who's them? the them is an alliance that didn't exist -- that stopped existing 30 years ago. >> to eastern europe, the them is still russia, though, david. the eastern european members of nato. >> so at bottom, nato is about
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the credibility of america's commitment to defend europe in a crisis where the adversary would be now russia, before the soviet union. >> what about hungary? >> the credibility of that commitment becomes less and less plausible i think to europeans. the further down this road donald trump goes -- you can say he's just trying to razz them and raising the same issues people did before. i think increasingly in european minds the idea that the united states would be there for them is diminishing. >> but that's just rhetoric. >> well -- >> don't you think the president's base now will carry this anti-nato fervor forward? >> i don't know whether they will. i hope they won't. i think we agree the president was irresponsible, but i also think that it is vitally important that we understand that nato is not confronting the crisis within its midst, the largest muslim -- the only muslim country -- the largest muslim country in nato, turkey, which is increasingly becoming a dictatorship russian style.
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the drift towards authoritarianism in former communist states inside nato. these are things nato needs to confront as well. >> each of those things you could argue donald trump is abetting. who is he walking with. >> was it barack obama who sent troops to the border in eastern europe to protect our allies from the russians or was it donald trump? was it barack obama who armed the -- agreed to arm the ukrainians or was it donald trump? i hate being put in the position of defending donald trump but those are facts. >> but it's also a fact that the trump and trump supporters are encouraging these nationalist movements in europe, in eastern europe, that are increasingly dangerous to nato and to the european union. that's also a fact. >> i don't agree. >> i'm only going to pause this conversation, i promise, sneak in the break. you guys are coming back. up ahead, much more on the president and his antagonizing of nato allies and what it could mean for america on the world stage. we'll be right back. ♪ this is a story about mail
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welcome back. with the president in european tag niezing our allies ahead of a meeting with president putin, mr. hadley joins us. welcome back to the show. >> nice to be here. >> i want to try to get to the conversation on the other side of the pond here. we're having plenty of domestic reaction to what the president is doing with our allies. what's happening in paris, in london, in berlin with these comments today? >> well, you know, i think one of the dilemmas for the president is he's trying to exert some leverage on the
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europeans to get them to do what america has been asking them to do for 20 years, to increase defense spending, to take more responsibility for their security, and he's doing it in the way that he knows how to do, speaking truth to power, being very -- probably too public and too sharp in his rhetoric. he's doing it to get leverage to try to get the outcome he wants. the problem is that in the public, it's getting a reaction which is in some sense making the publics more anti-american. and, you know, you saw this in terms of mexico when he made a lot of comments about mexicans coming across the border to get leverage on nafta, and it had the effect of making it easier for lopez obrador to win the mexican presidency. so his rhetoric -- he's not aware the consequences his rhetoric has on the politics in the countries with which he's dealing that ultimately can make problems for america down the road. >> this issue of what is nato
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post cold war has been a debate. i've been to multiple nato summits and feel like it's always a side conversation, what's it going to be. when nato got involved in libya, it was always is this a good idea or a bad idea, what's it going to be. that's still part of this challenge. is that what's making it easier for president trump to potentially blow up this alliance a little bit because nato is uncertain of what its mission is? >> well, i actually think while everyone is focusing on the rhetoric, what i'm told is that there was an agreement on a nato summit declaration today which the president joined, which ratified a lot of measures that nato is taking to strengthen its ability to reinforce and protect the eastern countries and hopefully to deter russia from trying to do in the baltic states what it did in ukraine. that's the good news. i think actually nato at a time when we thought the cold war was over and russia was no longer a
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threat, we were doing things like afghanistan, external threats. now that russia is back in a more menacing posture, nato is returning to a traditional role of defending europe. i think nato knows what its mission is. if you strip aside the rhetoric, what was done today is a further step in the right direction. and trump joined that step. >> okay. but can you strip away the rhetoric anymore? and i say this because his rhetoric clearly has an audience, and i think some of it has to do with the populist audience in europe and some of it has to do with his base here. >> it has consequences. you know, i can tell you i'm no political analyst, as you know, i'm a foreign policy folk, but i think what he's trying to do now is go into the midterm elections in november of 2018 having been tough on trade, tough on immigration, tough on our allies. >> even if it's not working. even if there's no results yet. >> not results, yes. he's reset the table on these
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issues. he's going into the midterm elections. he's energizing his base because that's the only way he can avoid losing seats in the house and the senate. the question is going to be after that happens and after he has what i'm sure he will describe as a stunning victory in november, in year three of this administration -- >> no matter what it looks like. i know what you mean there. it will be a stunning victory whether democrats win 50 seats or not. >> in year three of this election, having had this disruption and reset the tables, are they able to deliver some results? that's the question. he's had two years of disruption. he's now got his own team in place. the key thing is can they deliver something in the third year or is this simply going to be a disruption presidency. >> let me ask you this, can you imagine george w. bush, barack obama so blatantly having allies insert themselves into germany's politics and the uk's politics? the president himself, oh, look what's going on there, almost stoking boris johnson -- almost
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supporting a boris johnson challenge to may as prime minister. >> look, we've never had a president like donald trump. we've never had an insurgent -- political insurgency that captured the presidency. he was elected to disrupt and that is what he is doing. the cost of that for american leadership is the world for 30 years has depended on some stability and predictability in american policy. and when you have a disrupter in president who believes he needs to disrupt the status quo, you lose that uncertainty -- that degree of certainty, and that has consequences for both allies and adversaries. allies are unsure of you and adversaries may think they can take advantage of you. >> all right. so he agreed to have the summit with putin after nato, which in himself is a symbolic victory for putin. he's been the bull in the china shop at nato, as some feared that could happen. that's happened. all of this seems to be at least
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rhetorically helpful to vladimir putin. why shouldn't more -- bob menendez is going, hey, boy, he's doing vladimir putin's bidding, something must be up. >> look, i think if he had done the putin summit before the nato summit, a lot of people were criticizing him for that. you know, this guy can't win. >> there's no win with putin. >> this guy can't win. what he's doing -- >> but does he deserve to win on this with the putin stuff? >> well, i think actually this is going to work out. if it is true that what they have agreed to is a statement that strengthens the posture of nato vis-a-vis russia, i think that's a pretty good platform for him to have this conversation with russia. i don't expect much to come out of this. i don't think vladimir putin is going to give him much concessions on anything. but it will do one thing. it's odd that everyone is so worried about this since european leaders talk to
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vladimir putin all the time. it's just an american president somehow that can't. and it is not healthy, and i'm no fan of what russia has been doing for the last x years, but it is not healthy for there to be no relationships between the united states and russia. quite frankly, all those relationships at various levels, they're all gone. and some of those need to be rebuilt. >> what is the unintended consequence if president trump says, look, we're not going to push hard on crimea, we're going to pull back on the sanctions. what does that do? what message would that send? >> that would be a terrible message. there are a lot of terrible messages being sent. in syria, there's a message that if you are willing to make war on your own people and kill enough of them, the international community will let you stay in power. that's a terrible message. >> that's happening. president trump may be codifying that with putin this weekend. >> i hope not. and there's a terrible message if we turn back on crimea. there was a discussion in the
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press that there was actually a wells resolution modeled after something done in 1940 with respect to the baltic states saying we do not recognize what russia has done in crimea and we never will recognize it. that's where we need to be. >> you're an internationalist, you're a conservconservative, y point of view is waning in this republican party. do you think you could convince president trump that he's wrong on this stuff or not? >> i believe that president trump believes that he has a mandate from the american people and it is to be the disrupter. we have elected a disrupter in chief and that's what he's doing. >> so what you're saying is you don't think you could convince him. >> the question is what event -- will events teach him something in terms to responses to his policies. and again, look at that third year after the election. having had two years of disruption to reset the table, can he deliver in that third year. that's the question. >> stephen hadley, thanks for coming on. good to see you. >> nice to be here. >> appreciate it. up ahead, what is the best
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biotène. immediate and long lasting dry mouth symptom relief. welcome back. tonight i'm obsessed with the fact that congressional republicans have finally, finally decided to push back against president trump. we've watched as congressional republicans stood by while president trump trashed allies, cozied up to vladimir putin,
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seemed to support white supremacists at one point, separated children from their mothers, called the press the enemy of the people, a lot more out there. but today with the president's brow beating of our nato allies, republicans finally said enough. enough with the lecturing, enough with the humiliation, enough of the public tantrums. so yes, republicans in the united states senate said enough and joined in passing by 97-2 a resolution to reaffirm our commitment to nato. and this wasn't just any kind of resolution. oh, no. this was a certain kind of binding resolution, and what kind of binding resolution was that? well, the nonbinding kind of resolutions, of course, here's a key graph, strap yourself in. members of both parties overwhelmingly approved senator reed's motion to instruct senate conferees of the national defense authorization act, ndaa, for fiscal year 2019 conference committee to ensure that the final conference report of the ndaa reaffirms the u.s.
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commitment to nato as a community of shared values, including liberty, human rights, democracy and the rule of law. take that, president trump. and the senate, making sure there was no mistaking the gravity of the moment, made sure to not just reaffirm our commitment to nato, but to strongly reaffirm it. kind of reminds you of that scene from "a few good men," doesn't it? >> i strenuously on jengt, bjobt how it works? objection, overruled. no, i strenuously object. oh, strenuously object. i should take some time to reconsider. >> all right, maybe president trump will take some time to reconsider. not to be outdone the house pad its nonbinding resolution a little bit later, unanimously. that will show him. the chili pepper sweat-out. not cool. freezing away fat cells with coolsculpting? now that's cool! coolsculpting safely freezes and removes fat cells
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i'm aditi roy with the cnbc market wrap. the major indices falling sharply, snapping a four-day run
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as trade tensions reached a new high. the dow falling 219 points, the s&p dropping 20, the nasdaq closed 42 points lower. a new round of trade tariffs, this time on $200 billion worth of chinese goods was announced by the white house late tuesday. the tariffs will undergo a review process prior to taking effect with hearings expected to take place in mid to late august. that's it from cnbc, first in business worldwide. now back to "mtp daily." welcome back. senate republicans are starting to sound the alarm on president trump's trade war. some hope the president knows what he's doing. others say he's just figuring it out as he goes. >> i'm very, very nervous about it. and my constituents are very, very nervous about it. this is kind of his philosophy. not a direct quote, but the longer you negotiate, the better deal you get. well, i hope he knows what he's doing.
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>> what worries me is the fact that i know that no one at the white house can articulate what it is they're hoping to accomplish. that's what worries me. >> joining me now, i think is a another republican senator who's pretty concerned about this trade war right now, south dakota republican mike rounds. senator rounds, welcome back, sir. >> thank you, sir. appreciate the opportunity to visit. >> i know you've been on a couple times trying to sound the alarm on tariffs, trying to have, i think, what i would say a more cheerful conversation with the white house. less cheerful today. you guys passed a -- i guess it was called a test vote. it was nonbinding on the trade aspect. not to get it confused with the nonbinding nato resolutions i talked about earlier. but what does that vote tell you? does that tell you that the senate does need to get involved here now? the votes are there and the
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president should -- there should be more of a check by the legislative branch on the president's tariff authority? >> i think the message has been sent is that, first of all, this is nonbinding. specifically on defense issues, it was section 232 of the 1962 trade enhancement act, different than section 301 which is what he's doing today in china or suggesting he will do in china. but it all has to do with the impact on the markets with regard to what's happening right now. we have farmers and ranchers in the upper midwest that are bringing their products to market at this time. winter wheat is being harvested in south dakota right now. it won't be long until we have soybeans and corn that will be harvested. the markets right now for commodities are going down. soybeans are down $1.95 a bushel since march 1st. just in south dakota and we're not a big state, but if you just take a look at the farming operations in south dakota right now, the difference between march 1st prices and what we've got right now and the prices as of today, it's almost
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three-quarters of a billion dollars in impact on the balance sheets for farmers and ranchers. and so for them this is a real serious issue. it's not a matter of saying, yeah, i'm going to suggest that we might have, you know -- we might be putting in tariffs because the markets react immediately. and the markets are down. they have started to account for the possibility that china might very well not be buying as many soybeans as they used to. look, just as an example, soybeans, 60% of what we export for soybeans go to china. they amounting to 25% of all the soybeans produced in the united states. >> the president essentially via his tweets seems to be arguing, look, just give me time. this will be great. but give me time. agricultural tariffs, as you're pointing out and as i've been trying to tell people as well, those hit people immediately. the metal tariffs, you can buy time on some of the metal
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tariffs. as an operation, you can sort of move -- you can sort of maneuver yourself around them for six months, 12 months while they negotiate. you can't do that with these. do you think the president understands? both bob corker and chuck grassley seem to hint that he doesn't. >> that's what we're concerned about is that time is of the essence for us. what producers in south dakota will tell me, and i spent a week back in south dakota, their message was, number one, look, we believe the president is doing what he believes is right. we want him to succeed. but he's got to understand that we're at the tip of the spear right now and time is of the essence for us and time is running out. tell us what your game plan is. tell us what you want to accomplish. give us some confidence that this is going to end well. and i think that's the message that we're trying to share is, is heads up, this can't go on for an extended period of time without assuring our ag producers that they're not going to be ones that are going to take the brunt of this. it's been five years with falling ag prices.
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the ag income in our part of the country is down 50% in the last five years. so now to have them at the tip of the spear and seeing soybeans down, corn down, wheat down, and no end in sight, that's got a lot of people that are very strong supporters of the president, it's got them concerned. >> how concerned are you that the president's antagonistic rhetoric with our allies, even with china and the eu when it comes to trade deals, with nato, that that's only going to make it harder to cut a deal, that it's only going to make it, as stephen hadley said, you know, you make it easier to be anti-american in some of these other western democracies with the rhetoric he uses, which of course means you're not going to get a better trade deal. >> well, this president has a different approach than any other president we've had in a long, long time. what we want to see is evidence of success. tpp, as an example, that was going to provide us with basically a half a billion
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people in the pacific rim area that would be buying our products. back in january of a year ago, the administration said we're not going to take it, we're going to do individual trade deals. none of them are done. >> not one deal, right? >> no. and then we had nafta and we're going to redo nafta and it can be done any time and we're going to have a good deal. so far we don't have any good deal and now we're talking about delaying that once again. in the middle of it, not having tpp done where we'd have a half a billion people buying our products, and these are people that would rather buy from us than from china, they want to do a deal with us. not to have them on board with us, not to have nafta completed does not put us in a position of strength to negotiate with china. and that's not exactly the way even the president has suggested that he wants to negotiate in the past. and so as i say, in my part of the country, people wanting to this president succeed. they don't understand the tactics that he's using to get there. >> how much patience do they have? whatever gains they made in the
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tax cut, i assume if you're in the ag business, those are gone. >> i've talked to soybean producers today, i've talked to representatives of the american farm bureau. all of them have said the same thing. we're supportive of the president, we get that we don't have really good trade deals out there, but it's gotten a lot worse in the last couple of months. so what's the plan? where are we going with this? we need to know as well because time is running out for us and it's going to hurt our pocketbooks if we don't get something done. that's the message we're trying to send. they ask us, so why don't you go in and tell the president that? i say i think sometimes the president listens a whole lot more to the folks back home than they do to those of us in congress. so what they need to do is share and continue to share their concerns and ask that the white house and the administration remember that the actions they're taking now are having real consequences on real americans who want to be supportive of this administration. >> senator mike rounds, republican from south dakota, sounding an alarm. we'll see if the folks in the
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shake up the georgia's governor's race. with less than two weeks to go before the republican primary runoff for georgia governor, one candidate released a secret recording of the other candidate, seemingly bad mouthing the primary's sharp turn to the right. never get caught attacking the voters. here's a part of that clip of the state's lieutenant governor, casey cagle. >> this primary felt like it was who had the biggest gun, who had the biggest truck and who could be the craziest. right? that's what it felt like. >> his campaign says the conversation was private and he is being taken out of context. this isn't the first time cagle has been stung from a recording of this same conversation, by the way. another chunk released last month showed him acknowledging he pushed a bill he didn't like in order to undermine another political rival. he accused secretary of state brian kemp his opponent in the governor's race who released the tape of taking part in dirty
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politics. remember, whoever wins this runoff will now face democratic stacy abrams in the fall. remember her? she's been sitting back quietly raising a ton of money waiting for this bloody primary to end. we'll be back with more "mtp daily" after the break.
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for the first time president trump was about to hit a wall the degree of unhappiness in his own party is now significant. you saw paul ryan defect. the koch brother defect. a series of things but that interview crystallized it. he wouldn't have said that unless he was hearing from colleagues. >> they will hear it at home in the coming weeks in the summer. i thought that was fascinating. this is the first real crack we've seen. and you are absolutely right, any reporter covering this story will tell you, they can't outline what their strategy is and what's next and what their plan is. so if they can't do it for the public, they are certainly not doing it for different lawmakers getting heat in their districts. you know, the president, the way he talked about this, stick with me. you don't cave yet. we are going to win. no one knows what that means. if you are as the senator was
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talking about, taking a hit in your pocketbook, you don't want to stick with him. >> i thought it was interesting, the senator round said, you know, he's not listening to us. the senators have said this privately, he didn't say this it will take the megahat wearers to go to him and say you are killing us in the next bill. >> the poll numbers suggest those numbers are turning around, people are not that happy with this. i think people would stand with the president a lot longer if they knew that there was an outcome. i always analeyes this to the biz ash to buying a carpet. donald trump always thinks he's going to get the best price. he goes back and forth the problem with this is, nobody knows there is a carpet that will be bought at the end. what are we going to get from the mexican surface what are we going to get canada, from the europeans? we're negotiating, but fought negotiating towards anything. >> this is telling me the global economy is more integrated,
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harder to separate from than certainly donald trump thought. those are the side effects that people are experiencing. all farm people need the foreign sales. i have been talking to republicans, real trump supporters, whose manufacturer's businesses report enough raw materials their prices are popping up. they said exactly what rahm said, this is a fight we're not winning. >> we all know this is something the president has talked about in one of his earlier viewpoints in terms of you are actually right in that since he began talking about it and took this on as an issue, it's only gotten more complicated to untangle from these trade deals that he is, because of the global economy, it very much seems like neither he nor anyone on his team has sorted out how to actually go about doing is that. >> there is another issue here, which is i think people are a lot more willing to put up what they are doing on trade with china than they are with our
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allies. >> canada or the -- >> with canada, mexico, the eu, south koreans with the japanese. i think people look at china differently and they look at the chinese as taking advantage of the international. >> are you saying this was just, i've heard this, if he would just focus on china. >> yes. >> you'd have shared ground. you'd have some democrats in his corner. but he's not. he's made it every trade deal in the world. >> he made i about trade, not the people abusing the rules of the road. >> this is a president that hasn't had to sell aevenlg traditiontr-- anything. they have to sell it to people and voters. he hasn't had to sell anything. he's not trying to sell anything. >> well said. he started this off by saying trade wars are easy. i know how to negotiate it. people expected a quick win. i think he may have expected the chinese in particular would have caved sooner than they have. they clearly are not going to.
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he has to add, we to $200,000. >> they didn't have turbulence. we have and donald trump will wait it out. >> terrific conversation. thank you. up ahead, when you win so much, you may get tired of winning. this scientist doesn't believe in luck. she believes in research. it can take more than 10 years to develop a single medication. and only 1 in 10,000 ever make it to market. but what if ai could find connections faster.
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