and see her smile. i know she's here. that's all for this edition of "dateline." i'm craig melvin. thanks for watching. good morning. i'm dara brown at msnbc world headquarters. it is 7:00 in the east, 4:00 out west. new reaction from president trump after the fbi releases documents from surveillance quarter page. what they say and why they are being shown to the public. talks of a second meeting between president trump and vladimir putin while we don't know what they discussed this week. >> we were attacked and the president sided with the enemy. he did this in view of the entire world. clearing the air. the story behind this director

of the national intelligence. >> we have breaking news. the white house put on twitter vladimir putin is coming to the white house in the fall. >> say that again. >> that is straight ahead on msnbc live. new this morning, details from the just released doj documents showing how investigators justified their surveillance of former trump campaign aide, carter page. it was made public last night after requests from "the new york times" and other outlets. they believe page is the subject of targeted recruitment by the russian government. undermine and influence the outcome of the 2016 u.s. presidential election in violation of u.s. criminal law. page is a former policy adviser to a candidate for u.s. president. these are the very documents

president trump declassified earlier this year, reigniting tensions between democrats and republicans over the russia investigation. he's never been charged with a crime in the two years under surveillance. he denied being a russian agent. president trump tweeted within the last hour, the documents prove the documents misled the courts and ended the tweet saying witch hunt rigged, a scam. let's bring in kevin cirilli chief foreign correspondent for bloomberg tv. thanks for being here. so much to talk about. >> always. >> jonathan, what is your biggest take away? >> the opposite of what the president tweeted. basically, this undergirds the reasoning that the justice department and fbi were seeking a wiretap of carter page.

they believe there was a possibility he was a russian agent. he denied that. what you see in that documentation is the justification that we heard before. there was no argument between republicans and democrats about that in the past. it is hard to look at the evidence and suggest there was no reasoning for the warrant. >> this is, jonathan, a predictable response from the president saying the doj and fbi misled the courts. do the documents suggest that or possibly the opposite? >> the president, at this point, would say anything that came forward was evidence, no collusion and he was the victim of a witch hunt. so, you know, it's -- you have to weigh what the president is saying on twitter with a grain of salt. >> and tweeting bright and early on a sunday morning, too. now that we see it, does it

suggest it is not merely politically motivated? >> i think there's one thing that's for sure. that is the intelligence community has been consistent to echo what jonathan noted, the russians had a well orchestrated plan to meddle and influence in the election. i think when you take a broader step back here, that appears to be the consistent threat that virtually unanimous consent by the intelligence community, that is what was going on. that is a clear separation from the issue of collusion. right now, there is no evidence of collusion. virtually, everyone in the intelligence community agrees there was a well orchestrated plan by the russians to influence and meddle into the election. the question becomes how the u.s. better protects itself heading into the midterms. what is fascinating about what the president tweeted this morning is the line in which he says he feels the department of

justice, as well as the fbi, quote, unquote, misled. that is a doubling down of his comments all week and, quite frankly, for some months now in which he continued to try to stoke the flames of doubt in the intelligence community. that's rare. that's new. that is not something that we have seen ever happen before. again, we are inching closer to the midterm elections when democratic elections ought to be protected more. >> the fisa application states part of the basis was information from the steele dossier, but not only the basis. whose narrative does this help, the democrats or republicans? >> they are going argue about it but the truth is, there was evidence, other evidence than what came from the steele dossier. even if it was just evidence that came from the steele dossier, the idea that the fbi would never go on information from somebody who had skin in

the game, so to speak, from somebody who had a grievance. if that was the case, the fbi would never use information from victims of crimes. the whole idea that you wouldn't use information from the dossier, if you trusted the source or christopher steele or is the case here, other information to suggest that carter page might be recruited by the russians, the whole concept that this is done in an odd way or way that ununkosher is propostrouse. >> do we know how critical the wiretapping of carter page was in the russia investigation or have we known that all along? >> we have known it is a crucial point in terms to have investigations, but, you know, i would note, jonathan and i were in helsinki earlier covering president trump's press conference with president putin. just to see the optics of that

in terms of president putin saying he, jokingly seemingly saying he knows a thing twor about what a dossier is and literally tossing a soccer ball to president trump saying the ball is in your court. all of that coupled with the president extending that invitation to president putin to come to washington in the fall would suggest that this is a president, which is an administration trying to forecast they are not going to be backing down, despite the onslaught of criticism from democrats and republicans. and, quite frankly, from having to tweak some of their comments and walk back some of their comments with former ambassador mcfall this week. this has been a fascinating geo political shift. >> it's been a fascinating week. stay with us. we have more to discuss. for more on legal questions surrounding the fbi's release of

the documents, let's turn to formal federal prosecutor, doug burns. >> morning. >> the fbi believes page has been the suspect of target by the russian government. how bad is the burden of proof with a claim like that? >> you have to make a substantial showing. basically, fisa is a little different than a regular wiretap warrant. in a regular wiretap warrant, there crime is to believe a crime has been committed. in fisa, it's often this evidence that we may obtain valuable intelligence information, which is important and has been written about and discussed. this warrant, in looking at it, unfortunately, the editorial characterization. the same dispute is going to continue on unabbated. the reason is because the document is so heavily redacted.

page after page after page, no pun intended, redacted. you don't see the information. you are left with the conclusion that there was substantial effort by the russians. as pointed out, efforts by russia is one discussion and then to what extent, if any, the campaign was involved is a separate one. we hear that through toxic lenses day after day after day. they are two discussions. in the paperwork and warrants, they show activity between carter page and russians and they lay it out and say there was a heavy effort by russia to recruit him. they don't get to the further point of whether or not there was substantial, concrete, interaction. so, again, a bit of a broken record point, this disclosure with this level of redaction.

>> it was renewed three times. they were gaining useful information. we don't see that useful information but from 66 pages to 101 pages. how difficult of a process is the renewal? after three renewals, why hasn't he been charged, yet? >> it's outstanding. in the renewal of a wiretap, this is apparently the first time in the 40 year existence that it has been revealed, for good reason. it's a secret court and dealing with sensitive information. that's why it's so heavily redacted. back to your question, in order to get an extension, you must show the fruits of what you have yielded. again, we don't see that

specific information. it's a fair assumption they showed the court that some information was cleaned, then obtained to a point it is warranted. it happened three times. the other question is interesting. if they got a fisa application and three renewals, what, exactly, did it lead to. again, that's hard to say, but they haven't done so as of yet. >> here we are talking about it. trump and putin, part two. i speak to an agent about when those two get together.

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intelligence, dan coats is backing away from remarks made two days before. >> we have breaking news t white house announced on twitter that vladimir putin is coming to the white house in the fall. >> say that again. >> vladimir putin coming -- >> did i hear you? >> yeah, yeah. >> okay. >> yeah. >> that's going to be special. >> nbc's jonathan allen and bloomberg's kevin cirilli join me again. jonathan, i know, it's hard to take in. let me read his statement. they have mischaracterized my intentioned in responding to the breaking news presented to me. my awkward response was, in no way, to be disrespectful or criticize the actions of the

president. why release this, to save his job or he feels bad about his initial response on that stage? >> well, i think, poor dan coats. i mean, here is a guy, the director of national intelligence humiliated when he said he believed the russian intelligence more than his director. so, let's start with that. it's been a rough week for dan coats. the president did that on the international stage and, so, coats was reacting, i think, to andrea in a normal way at the aspen conference, to have fun with what's going on. again, it's hard to read his mind at this point. i think there are a lot of people surprised that dan coats stayed in his job, didn't resign from the job after the public embarrassment and humiliation. at this point, he wants to

remain to the extent he is influential to the president. it's not clear he is but will. >> do you believe he released this on his own or a push from the white house? >> no. look, i think it was a flippant off-the-cuff moment responding to the president. we have all been there. the president tweets something out, we are asked about it. you make light of it. look, here are the facts. the facts are the president is having seemingly tried to walk back or clarify is the more precise term clarify the comments he made in helsinki and he would have to consider sending a former u.s. ambassador to russia. that drew swift rebuke from, again, not just democrats, but mitch mcconnell who allowed for

there to be a vote on this nonbinding agreement that said, no, that should never be the case. the white house then walked that back, actually an hour before that vote. this was, again, if you plot the data points of this week as jonathan noted there. this was a remarkable rapid-fire week in terms of how the white house was communicating, russia-u.s. policy and how the intelligence community was responding to the shifting comments on u.s./russia relations and how a republican controlled congress was acting in realtime as well. >> also, a quick and amazing moment where andrea mitchell knew more about the u.s. intelligence plans with russia t meetings with vladimir putin than the director there.

no wonder his jaw was hitting the ground. >> the timing was incredible on that. >> when the trump/putin meeting was over, many suggested members of the administration should resign. you touched on this. so far, there's nothing on that front. do you think people are staying out of duty? they are committed to protecting the nation. >> it is impossible to count the number of people in this administration who believe they are the last person stretched across the breaking dam, keeping some sense of normalcy in the white house and this presidency. i'm not sure they are right in doing that. there's a lot of people willing to put up with a lot of stuff they wouldn't have thought they would have needed to coming into the administration and, i think, have been surprising in their willingness to put up with the

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it is incredibly valuable to the people of the united states of america, president putin and president trump continue to engage in dialogue to resolve the difficult issues they face with each other. this makes sense. >> secretary of state, mike pompeo set to speak this week about what happened at the helsinki summit. joining me now, your reaction about what he said about the second meeting between president trump and vladimir putin.

>> let's not forget that they have both said they are looking forward to meeting often. when they do that, we need to brace for impact, especially in circumstances where trump can agree to something without the consequences mitigated fby the rest of the administration. details are emerging from the russian side of what's been agreed and the implications are only now becoming clear. it could have been worse for the united states and the european allies. left alone, unsupervised, there's no telling what might be agreed to. >> you called it one of the least, worse outcome of the meeting. for whom? >> everybody. it was shocking and staggering to see a moment of humiliation for the united states. at the same time, europe could have breathed a sigh of relief. we have seen the fallout between trump and kim jong-un where he

makes promises. some thought he might have done the same thing, made commitments to putin like suspending military actions or reducing the u.s. commitment to european security that would have left them without the guarantee from the united states. that was a distinct possibility if left to their own account with nobody mitigating the consequences. >> real quick, president trump's back and forth statements about putin beyond the widespread outrage, what kind of damage has it done? >> it is impossible to tell. until we know what was said and what is going to be said at future meetings, there's no way to gauge what the consequences are going to be. it seems president trump either does not have a full grasp on what was agreed or doesn't understand the implications. far more is about to come out. >> appreciate you being here on

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