and 3:00 p.m. also encore at 9:00 p.m. follow me on twitter. the news continues now with my friend and yours. >> not yet. working on that this next couple of hours. have enjoyed the marathon though. >> see you, richard. >> okay, hello to you. in new york city, thanks for being with us. trump unleashed. right now, the president is preparing to head to ohio to stump for a gop candidate in a tight special election race but not before taking the shot at the state's favorite son, lebron james. now the first lady is getting involved in the spat with the basketball star and the president. will he or won't he? team trump meeting this weekend to decide whether the president will sit down with robert mueller and to set ground rules. how the historic interview might

play out and the nra under the gun. protesters marching on its headquarters today as the gun rights organization claims government pressure could drive it right out of business. we're going the start this hour with a crucial election for republicans and democrats alike. just days away from today, this hour, the president leaves his vacation to try to reverse a concerning tide for an ohio congressional candidate. troy balderson lost a ten-point lead to his democratic opponent. so now in this high stakes special election, the president wants to try to stop the momentum of the democratic challenger, danny oo'connor. trump won that district by 11 points, but the red seat looks less reliable today. earlier this morning, trump sent out a series of tweets supporting balderson while trying to link his opponent to nancy pelosi. trump also used twitter today to take a shot at ohio's most

popular athlete, lebron james, who had a few choice words for the president in his recent cnn interview. wh what. >> what i've noticed is that he's kind of used sport to divide us and that's something i can't relate to because i know sport was the first time i ever was around someone white. you know and i got an opportunity to see them and learn about them and they got an opportunity to learn about me and we became very good friends. it's always been something that brings somebody together. >> let's bring in kevin, washington correspondent for us. laura, huff post reporter. peter baker, "new york times" correspondent enter, also the author of obama, the call of history. kevin, why are we seeing this ten-point gap contract? >> a couple of things.

if you start to look at specifically in the state of ohio, just how the republicans have organized, just talking with sources at the republican national committee and they've really tried to have an influx in terms of not just ground game volunteers, but also in terms of the outreach in that. now look, things get tricky here though because obviously there are several of the president's policies that are incredibly unpopul unpopular. immigration. the tax reform bill. but this is neck and neck and you're trying to see a situation quite frankly where some republicans in this case in particular, they're not necessarily trying to run in lock step with this administration. >> so laura, building on that, is this election then about donald trump, who will be in that picture on the left in a couple of hours or is this about the democratic candidate here? danny o'connor? balderson or nancy pelosi? >> i do think it's a referendum

of trump. clearly, it's about whether race. i think that's why trump is leaving his summer vacation to speed out there to ohio and campaign. because he knows that it looks really bad for him if a very red leaning, very gerrymandered district that leans strongly for him in 2016, if it goes with the blue wave. that is a really bad sign for his standing in the midwest b and a bad sign for republicans going into the midterms. >> peter, what's a win? just a w for the republican candidate or w for the democratic candidate here or is it the margin that you'll be watching of which ever way it goes. >> it's a great question. in all the special elections we've seen since president trump took office, we've seen a lot of these red districts go much more favorably toward the democratic candidate without necessarily electing them, so you have districts where they're up and democrats lose, but only by a few points. that suggests a larger trend. didn't happen to work in the

democrat's favor, but does suggest there's a larger issue that would be playing nout the fall midterm elections on the democrat's be. in this case, you've got democrat plus seven. likely he may be able to put balderson over the top. but you're right, i think you have to look at the numbers on the final result as well, but not just the wl outcome. >> kevin, when you're looking at the numbers and you heard what people are saying, you've got to watch the numbers. not just the w and the l. what are you watching in this because both sides are saying we're going to extract something from this. one district to the national conversation and of course the midterms! i agree with everything that was said. two additional points is specifically looking at the democratic party, even the fact this is just just the come so close to begin with in such a typically conservative leaning district really does speak to something that i hear from republicans, which is also democrats really have the momentum in terms of enthusiasm.

that's something even if regardless of who win, that gap, whether you're looking at ohio or southwestern pennsylvania, that special election, is something that can't be undertalked about. the second point i would just quickly make is what types of democrats are running on and what types of democrats are winning. that tension, you mentioned house minority leader nancy pelosi about future leadership of the democratic party is incredibly important even beyond the context of the realaeeareal going against president trump and his policies. >> not only within itself, but also the willingness of democrats to move away from what they have been. we're going to discuss this laettner this show. i want to move on to something related to this, which i was mention ng the introduction. that is of course what's going on now between president trump and lebron james. james in an interview this week

that was aired twice on cnn with don lemon. host an anchor at cnn. well, james as we know here, critical of this president. the president then tweeting and basically calling don lemon not smart and being critical of what has been said, favorite son of ohio. ohio 12 here. that doesn't seem to make a lot of sense, laura. >> it doesn't make -- >> not now at least. >> it doesn't. setting aside just the galling racism of a white man calling two black men unintelligent, i'm setting that aside. it's incredibly politically stupid to insult the iconic sports hero of the state hours before you're going to campaign there. it's like he just wrapped up a present and delivered it to the democrats. it's such an own goal. i want to know what he was thinking. >> add to that, the other language here, peter, that has come up. for instance, maxine waters from

california. also african-american, an not only that very element that many critics have brought up about this president who he likes to call out. the nba nfl players notwith standing. there's also the response that just came out that comes from melania trump. breaking some might say what the president might say or the energy of what the president said saying this, it looks like lebron james is working to do good things on behalf of our next generation and just as she always has, the first lady encourages everyone to have an open dialogue about issues facing children today. her platform centers around visiting organization, hospitals and schools and she would be visiting the i promise school in akron, ohio. that is relating here peter to lebron james' community efforts here. that statement coming from melania trump's office. peter. >> absolutely. it's very interesting. you have to wonder what's happening today in bed minister between the two of them.

this is a straightforward repudiati repudiation. pretty much her saying this anti bullying campaign that she has taken you know as a first lady applies to her husband, too. you know, doesn't necessarily mean anything except it is rather extraordinary. you saw ivanka trump saying she did not agree with her father about the press being an enemy of the people. this women in his household are not guilty agreeing winot agree tone. >> so, peter, what is happen ng the east and west wing right now? with this latest statement come frg the first lady? >> it's very interesting. i would love to know that right now. i don't have any reporting on it to share, but it's, you have to imagine there's some real tension going on. it's playing out in a very public way. ivanka trump was asked about this and gave her answer. melania wasn't asked. didn't have to put this out. she could have ignored it. but she chose to speak out on

this. she chose to directly contradict her husband in a powerful way. that you know, does make you wonder what's happening inside the trump family. >> and what we understand, kevin, is that cnn did ask for a response, they didn't have to respond. but melania trump did respond. >> two things. first, i think i would piggy back off of what peter said in the sense that i think that really what you're seeing is that ivanka as well as the first lady are really kind of engaging with richard, you know, critics and that's something different than we've seen, but the second point is look, i don't think there's really many folks who are going to be voting off of this lebron james president trump feud. but i think to the point of how politicized and heighten ed the culture has become around everything from hollywood to sports, this is a perfect illustration of that. >> delaware, ohio, where will we see the president in the next

couple of hours, do you think this will be a point he makes on the response from lebron, from the first lady about the lebron issue? >> i would be surprised if he commented on his wife going against him here. i think she has been asserting her independence in various ways lately. she sawer her press shot clap backened 'criticizes her and they said the first lady watches whatever she wants. i think it's embarrassing to trump and i would be shocked if he brought it up. >> thank you for kicking off the show. within ten days, that's when we'll know yes or no, if the president sits with the special prosecutor who's telling us that and why. how do you win at business? stay at laquinta. where we're changing with contemporary make-overs. then, use the ultimate power handshake, the upper hander with a double palm grab. who has the upper hand now? start winning today. book now at lq.com.

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we're being hindered by the russian hoax. it's a hoax. okay? >> we're about to hear some of the same at president trump's rally tonight in ohio. expect that in cowell uple of h but despite the president's state of denial, member of the administration are sending clear signals of russia's involve. . trump's top five security officials calling out russia, warning of efforts to interfere with our country's democracy. meanwhile, the mueller investigation seems to be focusing on president trump's long time friend and adviser, roger stone. his associate who was known at the manhattan madam has met with

mueller's team. also, "the washington post" is reporting new information on suspect eed russian agent, mari qua patina. all this as questions loom over whether he'll sit with an interview. let's bring in joyce vance and david priest. thanks for being with us. according to politico, and rudy giuliani, that the president will make the mueller sit down call within ten days. does that mean anything particular to you? >> i've lost track of how many times now rudy giuliani has put this story to the forefront. the president is deciding in ten days or the president is is making a decision about what the conditions are on which he'll speak to bob mueller. it seems like the trump side of this equation feels like they have some benefit to keeping

this on the front burner. the reality is if mueller need an interview with the president, he has the tools at his disposal to get one. he can issue a subpoena and get that interview without negotiating. if he only needs certain portions of an interview, he'll work out an agreement with the president, but the most important thing to understand is that it's not the president's decision to make. witnesses and witnesses in criminal cases don't get to decide whether or not they'll speak to federal prosecutors. >> the question also is there an advantage one way of the other, subpoena or negotiation and that what might mean for the president depending on what mueller does here. >> no i think there's more of a game going on here than anything else. the president doesn't want to testify regardless of what he says. the president does not want to testify unrestricted. that is to go in for a live interview with all pe ques being on the table and his lawyers don't want him to do that either. so he's trying to put this off,

to put pressure on the special counsel to agree to limit the questions. mueller and his team are trying to get information from the president that they know the answer to already and they just need to get the president on record saying it. but they're also setting up for an accommodation idea. there's also a tension when it cops to the president who has way too much to do in too little time and there's been great deference shown to the president protecting his time against things like this. well, in this case, the president has demonstrated the tv watching. a lot of things that show shehe not as busy to make that case. so i think mueller is going out of his way to show negotiation so if it does go to the courts, whether he has to follow the subpoena, he can show accommodation either way. >> as you were watching at the press briefing, we had five officials come out and speak about russia interference. and i was thinking joyce, what

did you take away of this tale of two administrative messages coming out from the five officials that were there during the briefing then the president contradicting that. >> it's disstressing that the president of the united states uses russia's interference in our elections as a hoax, his word, but it is reassuring that we have cabinet secretaries and other high ranking officials who are willing to publicly stand and talk about ongoing russian interference and maybe begin to take steps toward it is sort of push back that our country needs to be making on a systematic whole of government effort to protect our upcoming elections. >> there's also this development. maria, move on to this in the russia investigation. according to the "washington post," quote. cozied up to an extrump aide. j.d. gordon, who served as

trump's director of national security for six months. saying the story is part of a smear campaign. david, what do you make of this coming from "the washington post"? >> yeah, i don't know the details of it. i don't think any of us do. but it rings true based on what we know about her and her other connections and people she was trying to reach out to. perhaps the most interesting part of the reporting was that he volunteered without really knowing her to say come along with me to a sticks concert, a 50-year-old man a 20 something-year-old woman. and i'm surprised by that. couldn't he have picked journey? at least don't stop believing has been remade in the last ten years by the glee cast. sticks is a really odd choice if you're trying to make that connection. >> you've got joyce to laugh it up tr here on that one. what's your topic on this? >> she seems to have been remarkably successful not only at tolerating the music of my

childhood, but working her way into relationships with people who had the potential for relationships in a prominent role. this i think is very disturbing. we don't know the full detail of the operation she was running at. but one thing that we can be certain of is that although she's been arrested and is being prosecutor cuteded, she's likely not the only one. this should serve as a wick up call for us to disregard the president's effort to call this investigation a witch hunt and remember that primarily, the special counsel's investigation seeks to look at russia's efforts to exert inappropriate influence on her electiour elec our governmental processes and that it needs to continue until the special counsel needs he's done the work he's been asked to do. >> very intriguing perspective on the russia investigation. we have a walk up song for david and joyce next they come on here to msnbc.

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hold on a second, mr. president. that's what a federal judge just told the administration. they must fully reinstate daca. the judge gave the government 20 days to appeal before that reinstatement order goes into effect. that as a different federal judge called the efforts to reunify the children with their families unacceptable. the trump administration had proposed the american civil l liberties union and other non-profits that ta take the lead in locating and identifying the parents still in u.s. cust by, but the second judge ruled the trump administration is solely responsible for reuniting the hundreds of children who remain separated from their parents. joining me now, emily and michael singleton, a republican consultant and contributor for the hill. what do you make of these latest

developments of two separate judges making moves here on immigration. one of those very important if you will, campaign issues that the president brings to bear as we now come into the mid temperaturterms. >> hi pock rasy and the president is trying to rely on a private organization to fix their error. i think the administration didn't think about this properly and it could hurt republicans in certain districts and states going into midterms. because it's going to give an advantage to democrats to be b able to say look, the administration has not been able to properly address immigration, they haven't been able to provide or push forward any policy initiative for comprehensive reform. if you look at these judges, they have a legitimate argument to make. >> the administration is saying we did get it right the first

time. the argument is sound. >> i don't know how they would think that any argument they've made is sound. just like i don't know they can say any policy is sound. it is insane that we are a democracy, this country would be separating families to say from the beginning it's an acceptable thing to do. it is unbelievable that the administration has taken no responsibility for bringing these families back together. we heard congressional testimony this week that they never intended to bring families back together. they now say their job is donfy they're toddlers. one toddler has died and 400 parents have been b deported without their children, sometimes being tricked. this is inhumane. look, people were running for office as a reaction to the election of president trump. but the elections that we're going to see in november are not

going to be about trump. they're going to be a referendum on this republican congress who has been unable and unwilling to stand up to him and reign this administration in. >> and it is not known whether that death of that child was related to the detention facility specifically as of now. that we understand here at nbc news. we play this out. look forward to how far this issue might go. do you believe here that the president as he has said in the past, might push this to a shutdown if he doesn't get what he wants on immigration? the risk here is we just weeks before the midterms. >> i certainly hope not because i think it's going to impact republicans negatively. at this point, i think looking at a lot of the very close races right now, it's going to ultimately come down to turnout. once you move beyond targeting and mobilizing registered voters of your respective party, whether you're a democrat or republican, it's going to come down to folks in the middle, who

can reach them the most, who can convince them their policy initiatives will benefit them the greatest and shutting down a government continuing to divide the country based upon wedged issues will not benefit republicans. it appear that is democrats would take the house. we don't want to encourage or increase the numbers by which they'll take to control the house. i think the president a has to be very, very careful as he tweets, makes comments as these rallies. at this point, every single action could have a negative impact on republicans going into midterms this november. >> there's the question of energizing your base. we're watching on the low right hand side of the screen, ohio 12, this is where the president will be going in the next couple of hours. if he does bring up immigration, will he hit the notes that will energize a base that some are asking the trump voters, are they going to come out with this same sort of chutzpah and strength and relative to that, and i'll go to a poll here from gallup, june 1st through the

15th. majority of americans spoupportg daca. 83% approve of what this judge says must be fully redeployed and put pack into force here. that's the daca policy. so the question is then emily, is this going to help the president and the republican party by pushing this and what scherrmichael is saying probably not. >> look, i agree with him. trump policies are always about en energizing his alt right base. if you want to talk about the impacts of his immigration policies, and we know there are people all over the country from all different backgrounds who are not supportive, your polls shoed that, but some of the most active volunteers who have put pressure on the administration to end this policy after just six weeks were white women, but if we just talk about the latino

vote, we know about 70% know someone who is undocumented. there's no community that trump has gone after more than immigrants and the undocumented. we know 25 million latinos are elbe jibl to vote. there's a huge amount there to tuck about base, but it's not just even about base, it's about, it's not even i would call categorically persuasion because what people are feeling going into this election is that there were a lot of particularly white suburban women who went in reluctantly to vote for trump and will probably swing back. what we're now seeing is that it's in a lot of rural areas where people are feeling a lot of buyer's remorse against trump. areas that won by 12% with swinging by democrats. that's virginia. pennsylvania. by those percentage point, not only does texas turn blue, but ted cruz losing his senate seat, so it could be a different turnout for blue than people are

even anticipating. >> if i could really quickly push against that. i think that's a bit extreme. i think this is going to turn out tat end of the day, to who what party can turn out their voters and those beyond their voters. when you look at very close elections, at least in my ey experience of working on campaigns, once you reach the pinnacle of mobilizing folks who have registered or voted for your particular party, again, you try to go back to those independents and figure out what percent of those voters do you need in the middle to give you that advantage come from election date and that would be the priority vote for republicans and democrats. >> by both of your messaging, we might hear about tariffs potentially and the economy when that president does arrive there in ohio today. if he's trying to address what i think both of you equally are intimating. thank you. >> thanks so much. >> all right. next, what we're hearing from paul manafort's accountant at his fraud trail amid claims the

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2016. $1 million in loan, bank loans to keep himself afloat. still in question, will gates will called to testify. our panel who has been inside this court we're talking about all week. joyce vance, former u.s. attorney still with us. so what was it like? we really boiled it down to a couple of sentences here. what are we missing that you saw? >> this accountant appeared to be b quite contrite. very soft spoken and straightforward in answers prosecutor's questions on friday. she said she was testifying under grant of immunity from prosecution. she may be possibly prosecuted for perjury because of her role in this scheme allegedly involving paul manafort and rick gates to mislead banks and others about their debts in order to get loans. and he was quite contrite on the

witness stand on friday. >> what was the mood in there? >> people were paying close toengs, especially the jurors, the six men and six women. the four alternates. i've covered a lot of accounting and bank fraud trials. these aren't the most scintillating trial, but the jurors were paying close attention even peering at screens to look more cleesly at the tax documents as they went with them with this accountant. >> joyce, you're used to stuff like this. what do you make of what the reporting has been about the way this has moved along either to duration, the parties, the lawyers representation, the judge himself? one of the most interesting aspects of this case is that it has a dual focus. it has the tax fraud focus. that means while manafort was doing well, was bringing in a lot of money from his work on behalf of russian linked

ukrainian government, he was trying to minimize the amount of his income. prosecutors put that in front of the jury this week both with paperwork showing that, both with testimony from accountants saying manafort tried to recharacterize money that was income he should have been paying taxes on as lopes, which he didn't have to pay taxes on. that seems clear and it will be difficult for manafort to refute. then on the bank fraud part, manafort's finances went south. again, the paper case is is tight. so where manafort goes when this case comes to his opportunity. he doesn't have a lot of room to maneuver. we're showing some of the lists

there of the charges, but then there's the evidence that has been brought up o so far. 1.26 million for designer clothes and wire transfer payment. 3.6 million in home renovation. 1.9 million for home for his daughter. at wup point as you saw, his wife stands up and walks out. why and what happened before that incident? >> you know, there's been a push and pull throughout the kaurs course of this trial, four day or so this trial has been going on with respect to evidence that prosecutors want to present of manafort's lavish lifestyle while living large fueled by this money from ukrainian lobbying for the pro russia government in ukraine. the judge has been reluctant to allow prosecutors to use the full bore of their evidence he's admitted into evidence so the jury can see them later, photos

of some of these suits. this ostrich jacket, ore thing, but the evidence has been really piling up. but the jurors are not seeing pictures. the judge is very reluctant because he doesn't want the jury to convict paul manafort on the basis of manafort's lavish tastes. the judge said it's not a crime to be b a rich person in the united states and paul manafort's wife has sat through a lot of that stoically. at times, she has shown some reaction. >> there's the possibility that rick gates might be called and joyce, what will that mean to the case? >> the government was equivocal this week on whether or not rick gates would take the stand and testify. on the one hand, it's clear that the government doesn't have to have him. they went ahead and indicted this case against both manafort and gates. that means they were confident that they had evidence that they could use to convict beyond a reasonable doubt at trial

without gates, but all along, since news that gates was flipping and cooperating with the government emerged, people began to anticipate his testimony. the government was careful in its opening statement not to promise gates and this week, we heard a little bet hedges, which might suggest they can convict in this case without putting gates on the witness stand, perhaps preserving him for his first outing of testimony in a case down the road. >> would he be credible? >> that's the ultimate question. >> it's been piling up against paul manafort and one of his main shots is if rick gates takes the stand and his lawyers are able to destroy rick gates' credibility. create some of that reasonable doubt they need. i have to tell you, rick graate has been the right hand man to paul manafort for many years. he's not a guy used being inside

a courtroom and it's hard to predict how a witness is going to withstand. but i know prosecutors have been prepare fing for that. the judge, quite a character so far. >> the judge is trying to protect the record on appeal and so what we've sometimes seen as the judge criticizing one side or the other, is his effort to ensure that as the evidence comes in, he's taking no risk with this conviction if there is a conviction being reversed on appeal. >> great, thank you so much. appreciate your time today and have a good weekend. >> thanks. >> you bet. >> still to come, the national march on the n ara, protesters including stoneman douglas survivors fighting for charge after another year of gun violence. there's a lot of innovation that goes into making our thinnest longest lasting blades on the market. precision machinery and high-quality materials from around the world.

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from the white house. >> heard from one of the activists marching on the headquarter of the national rifle association today. pressure from antigun advocates maybe starting to have an effect. the nra known for its deep pockets and the millions it has poured into the campaigns of the politicses across the country, is claim ng a new lawsuit in new york that it is broke and on the verge of collapse. joining us now, a survivor of the mass shooting at marjory stoneman douglas high school, also matt, a graduate of marjory stoneman douglas high school. start with you, ryan. you saw just there somebody who was there at the nra. they're protesting and you were all look at the pictures. it was a good representation of young voices that would seem to be like you, wanting to make a move on gun legislation. what did you make of what you heard of what's happening there earlier today? >> i'd just like to correct

something you said earlier with antigun. as our organization and that march as a whole is not an antigun organization and we do not believe in such things, we just believe in gun safety and gun violence prevention. such things that the nra has openly shouted against us at protests which usually have about 2,000 of our people there and about 30 of theirs. >> what do you make of what you saw there if you can now, ryan, of what was said by one of the activists there and what you saw in the pictures? are you happy about the energy that is being presented? >> definitely today was a positive day for us. it was very much a sad day for a lot of people as it was joaquin oliver's birthday, yet we did celebrate together and we all believe fully that it is something that he would have appreciated and the cake, the art displays, just everything sticking to the man is something that he fully believed in his life and we hope to carry on after his passing. >> this was the first time the

nra rode out side of the main headquarters was shut down in its history and we shut it down with sunflowers and snow cones. the energy from the young people was simply incredible and i think that energy will be carried across our nation. >> i wanted to ask you that, because as we've been covering this story as well as the march for our lives campaign, we have heard that this was only going to be the beginning, if you will, leading all the way up until 2020 of consistent activities throughout the country in various local elections. has it been working out, what have you been seeing and what are the plans as we move into november? >> we've had incredible turnout across the country. regardless of what area, blue or red state or county, we've had young people turn out from all across the country and tell us about how they are organizing in their area. and i just -- the energy alone is enough to motivate us to continue going. and we'll continue working until we can actively say that we have chan changed the outcome of the

future of the elections and the young people will determine who our leaders are. >> and if you were watching earlier, on the lower right hand side of the screen, we're showing the location in ohio where president trump will be speaking in about two hours. what are you doing there in that key state of ohio, matt? >> we're going to be working a lot with our chapters that have started across the state of ohio and also doing college outreach. i think it is important to engage young people from all different types of communities and really combat the issue from an enter sesks intersection aal. ohio has been -- fred has worked hard to engage that area in regards to gun safety and he was at the event today and spoke really powerful words. >> almostare reading

my script. fred's 14-year-old daughter was killed in the parkland school shooting and he did have this to say about one recent development on 3d printed guns. listen to this. >> we need to get legislators who will immediately file legislation to make the sharing of these files illegal. but who will also make sure that possession and distribution of plastic undetectable weapons is not only against the law, but punishable by a really serious fine and jail time. >> ryan, i saw you look down as we were about to hear from fred guttenburg. what were you thinking? >> i mean, it is an absolute tragedy what happened that day at marjory stoneman douglas, but beyond that, what fred is talking about, he is absolutely right. we need to take action against something like this because these weapons are undepebtectab and allow people to become potential fists a terrorists an risk to society as a whole as

the current systems like metal dehe tech to h tectors would no and they would not be registered, so on anybody could cause mass harm to anybody anywhere, which is crazy to think that our leaders are okay with this. >> and matt, you may have seen this from the president, he seems to agree with that energy saying i'm looking into 3d plastic guns being sold to the public, also saying already spoke to nra. doesn't seem to make much sense. so matt, it might appear that the president agrees that this may not be a good idea. >> the national rifle association cares more about sales than safety. and so i think the president should turn more of his attention to actual experts and not people trying to per pet chew 80s the sale of guns. they personally profit when violence spikes.pet chew 80s the sale of guns. they personally profit when violence spikes. >> we were talking about legislation earlier and you also heard from the student that was

speaking. and just to give you some of the numbers, in 2016, during the campaign and as we move into the midterms, it would be relevant to those watching this, 61 million was given by the nra to members of congress, $31 million to advertising to the trump campaign and $128 million from the annual average overall from members. so i know that this has been an important part of the messaging here. ly, what do you think you will have gotten done when we're done with these midterms? ryan, quickly. >> well, i mean, just really quick, we've already seen that over 50 laws have been passed at the state level and local levels all across our country. we're showing that the young people care and the people care about safety in this country. and if the nra doesn't, they have to step out of the way. >> and matt, 15 seconds, do you think what you have been doing has helped to enact these laws? >> yes, we are registering new voters every day. you've seen the youth registration voters go up in almost every state in this

country. and so i think the young people really determine the future leadership of this nation and we won't vote for the n permit a. >> march for our lives campaign for gun safety, ryan and matt, thank you both so much. and have a good saturday. >> thank you so much. coming up, president trump puts down king james before attending a rally in ohio. the tweet that has the first lady now breaking from her husband. alright guys let's go! let's do this directions to the greek theater (beep) ♪can i get a connection? ♪can i get can i get a connection?♪ ♪can i get a connection?

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are ii'm richard lui. i want to start this hour with president trump right now on his way to ohio where he will hold a rally this evening for congressional candidate. this is just three days before a high stakes special election there. troy balderson is locked in a tight race with democrat danny o'connor for a seat there that the gop has held for decades. polls show balderson's ten point lead has shrunk to just one point. so now the president is trying to reverse that trend. meanwhile trump is taking to twitter to try to make the case for tariffs by claiming tariffs are working far better than anyone ever anticipated. in an earlier tweet, he questioned the intelligence of lebron james as well after the baseball superstar criticized trump in a televised interview. >> what i noticed over the last few months, that he has kind of used sport to kind of divide us and that s