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so where ever you go. we're right there with you. the powerful backing of american express. don't do business without it. don't live life without it. welcome to politics nation. coming to you, today, from houston, texas. later today, i'm leading a rally in florida, against the state's outrageous stand your ground law. more on that in a moment. first, there are continued moves by the president to insight his base, again. at a rally last night in ohio, president trump continued to
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attack the media, the democrats, the special counsel investigating the 2016 election and, yes, black people. >> they are talking about this blue wave. i don't think so. i don't think so. maxine waters is leading. maxine. she's a real beauty. maxine. a seriously low iq person. seriously. maxine waters, she's leading the charge. >> let me tell you about the spin that is president is doing here and why i think his approach will not work, even on his own base. i remember when i was a young
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civil rights activist, younger civil rights activist, james brown, the founder of soul, embraced my youth. he said reverend, there are those that are lounge acts, they work in the lounge where they serve drinks and have to compete with the noise and drinks and conversation. then, when you make it is when you play in the big room, the inside room on the big stage. that's where you have to have a better act. that's where people sit and spend a lot of money eating dinner with their wives and their families and perform. donald trump is a lounge act. he continues to do a lounge act. it will wear thin and even his base will get tired of being treated like people just lounging around intoxicated. joining me now from washington, tiffany cross, managing editor
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of the bdc.com. d tiffany, let me start with the fact the president is talking about the blue wave. he doesn't believe it is coming. forget his disparaging remarks on persons. i'm trying to deal with the reality that if there is a political shift in this country, in the u.s. house of representatives and possibly the senate, what does that mean, politically, for the people of the country and for the president? why is he so concerned about the blue wave? >> first, we have to realize where the president was yesterday. he was in the 12th district of ohio. this, actually is not a home of extremists. the candidate there, it was a question of if trump would be helpful to endorse his candidacy. this is the columbus area. they are not the fox viewers, if you will, there are moderates
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who live in this air yachrea. the behavior of the president shows she tweets and responds to things he is nervous about. the fact he is talking about a blue wave and being afraid of it shows this may be a reality. what it means if the democrats take back one of the branches of government, there will be balance again. that's what the country is missing. the president controls the house, the senate, the courts and the white house. that is not a healthy balance of power. >> one of the reasons why they are concerned about the balance is this president has been able, despite all the distractions he's been able to throw out, he's able to confirm a lot of judges to the bench, federal judgeships, a lifetime. he's able to try to appoint a new supreme court justice after
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putting in gorsuch. he's been able to come through the tax bill and other things. it's not like they have not made some serious inroads that will have long lasting effect, even without the blue wave that can come to at least stop it. i think that the concern they have, and i think one of the reasons they tolerate his behavior is they want to ram through all of this right wing stuff while they have the white house, senate and house. if that ends in november, then, of course, it becomes more balanced. >> right. i think what we are seeing, the democrats are meeting with his second nominee, supreme court nominee cavanagh next week. there's not a lot the democrats can do to stop the supreme court pick.
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i think donald trump is nervous about seeing a shift in that. you have to remember all the things going on. if democrats get control of the house, that's going to cast a wide net of influence on the mueller investigation, the government oversight committee, which will be chaired by democrats. i can understand why this president is nervous and should be. >> here is a fresh trump tweet from moments ago. quote, the fake news hates me saying they are an enmy of the people because they know it is true. i am providing a great service by explaining this to the american people. they purposely cause great division and distrust. they can also cause wall. they are very dangerous and sick. is the president of the united states tweeting just moments ago, digging down into his
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accusation that the president, enemy of the people, they are dangerous, they can cause war? i mean, this is unprecedented for a president to continue to go to war with the media and, attempt to turn the public against the media, holding him and others accountable. >> he has a willing audience who is receptive to this nonsense. this is why he keeps attacking the media. he's only speaking to his base. the challenge is, he has too many people will be to echo that. you have people with those. he has a 24 hour news network echoing his lies, who hold him to no ou countability. >> you have a small sect of
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people. i think this is dangerous. we have to hold the media accountable as well. you have to have people willing to say, that's not true or you have to take it a step further and not give a platform. i don't need to see kellyanne conway come on your network and talk about something that is not true. if somebody says it is raining outside, somebody says it doesn't, i don't need to hear it. there's some accountability. >> sometimes it's good to see how some of the statesmen are. i think it should be done with measure. i'll give you an example. this weekend, we saw the president question the intelligence of lebron james. i mean, of all presidents to question intelligence, he sees crowds that are not there.
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i'm not going to bring the standard of the show down to the litany of lies and things he has done, which does not speak of high intelligence, but even his wife came back and kind of took shots at what he said. his own wife, the first lady cam back. so, i think sometimes it's exposing when you let some people see just how reactionary and petty because aside from being insulting and offensive, it is petty for the president of the united states to attack a basketball icon for disagreeing with him. he's just beneath the office. we have heard the insults and nicknames. we are over it. the fact that melania trump came
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out and said something, i think it's great. she should come out and speak more. i remember melania trump being a birther. i don't consider her an ally. i think it's interesting when you look at the insults trump directs toward the people of color, that does matter. he can only view black people in a certain way. this is why he only invites certain people to his office because he knows they will be submissive to his message. they have something to gain personally. for the larger communities, who are trying to get, you know, fight for the greater good, people don't lend their brand to him. that's why it's dangerous when you have a kanye west or steve harvey stand next to him or the ridiculous people that have validated this person. when you have a lo brochb james -- >> or when you see ministers sit there for a conference on inner
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city policies, yet they don't sigh what is going to help the city. did they go in with an agenda or come out with one? every time we met president obama we said this is what the meeting is about and this is what we are after and able to get things done. i have to leave you there. thank you, tiffany cross. coming up, jeff sessionses declares a holy cultural war against, well, we're not sure. later, i'll tell you who else is coming to my rally tonight in clear water, florida, calling for justice for a man fatally shot in front of his kids during another stand your ground case. be right back. (man) managing my type 2 diabetes wasn't my top priority. until i held her. i found my tresiba® reason.
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we have gotten to the point where courts upheld and morality cannot be a basis for laws, where ministers are fearful to affirm, as they understand it holy writ from the pulpit and where one group can actively target religious groups labeling them hate groups. we are going to remain in contact with religious groups across america to ensure their rights are being protected.
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>> that was attorney general, jeff sessions, monday, announcing his justice department's new religious liberty task force. at the core of the mandate to enforce trump era guidelines on religious protections. is it yet another white house offering to the white evangelical voters, this time by enabling faith based organizations to innor nondiscrimination laws, sometimes while receiving federal funding. while religious leaders cheered the announcement, civil rights groups saw a threat to a different kind of religious freedom. freedom from discrim for women, lgbtq folks and nonchristians. joining me now is ria mar, a
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staff for the aclu. ria, i'm a baptist minister. i'm also a firm believer, i do not have the right to impose my belief, my faith, my convictions on others by law. when i saw this announcement by mr. sessions, who has been adamant about things like the case we saw with the bakery in indiana making a cake, having the right to deny lgbtq people from services and others. i am wondering, are we really seeing this new initiative as a mask for them going back to violating the civil liberties and rights of people that may
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not share my faith or attorney general sessions? >> well, this task force is just the latest chapter in the trump administration's plot to embolden discrimination against lgbtq, women, those of minority faiths. this country was founded on religious freedom. from president trump's first days in office, we have seen them target lgbt people, telling transgender troops they are not able to serve in the military. you can fire people because they are gay or transgender. that's not how it works. >> a fact of the matter is, there were those that would use the bible to justify slavery and justify jim crowe laws. we have seen manipulation for the most reactionary and most
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backward kind of ways of imposing racism, sexism and this task force smells of the same kind of thing that we have seen in the past, just with a new name. >> that's exactly right. we have been down this road before. in the wake of the passage of the civil rights act of 1964, we saw businesses in the south refusing to treat blacks equality as whites and claiming their religious freedom stops them from the lay. a chain of barbecue restaurants that took this argument to the supreme court. they flatly rejected it saying businesses have to treat everyone equality. the fkt that they had the view to contravene the will of god doesn't lead to a blank check. our nation has already struck the right balance between
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religious freedom and equality. there's nothing about the fact that is laws protect people who are lbgtq that changes that. >> i think, what is important is that it does not mean you change your belief. i'm a firm believer in what i preach and what i teach, but i also believe people have the right to other beliefs and to protect my right of belief, i have to protect everyone else's because someone of a different faith or believe come to power can make what i believe illegal. to protect yourself, you have to protect others. >> that is right. you cited masterpiece cake shops and they sided with the bakery. they pulled themselves out as open to the public, yet they declined to sell to aclu clients because they are a same-sex couple. the bakery asked the supreme court to find if there is a
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institutional right to discriminate. while the court didn't accept that argument, it let the bakery off the hook for discrimination because of proceed urdural prob. they cited why they think this task force is necessary. the supreme court didn't license discrimination. receive sessions is going to himself. if jeff sessions has his way, he is going to authorize discrimination by businesses receiving federal funds and using taxpayer dollars to discriminate. you could see a federal contractor fire someone, a landlord taking section 8 vouchers, evicting a tenant for being an unmarried mother.
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that's his vision of religious freedom. >> you touched on something that is a very important aspect of this debate. we are talking about people that get taxpayer dollars. so, not only do you run the potential of me or you or someone that is different than a particular belief or particular faith being discriminated against, they are actually paying for it. so, i'm paying for the police department that takes care of that bakery or the sanitation department that picks up garbage and on and on and on, the zoning where he was given from the local municipality to have the business there. i'm going to sponsor you discriminating against me. that's a lot of what is forgot in his argument, you accept everybody's tax dollars, but you want to be able to give it to who you want and they tell the taxpayers, i believe your way is
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sinful, therefore i don't have to service you, even though you are underwriting my ability to be in business. >> exactly. i think most people don't agree with with that premise. jeff sessions is a bully, but most agree no one should be fired from a job or turned away because of who they are or who they love. now is the time to make our voices heard. we need to call on e lektlected officials. we need to update the civil rights laws, one set of rules for everyone and put lgbt people on the same playing field as everyone else. >> thank you. coming up, a record number of women running for office in november's midterm election. within that record is another milestone that has been largely ignored. i'll tell you about it. stay with us. this is the ocean.
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and not have because that's what they told us to do, not have somebody who is a citizen who is claiming they acted in conformity with the law and they acted under the stand your ground statute sitting in jail for weeks or months. my decision is based on florida's stand your ground law. it is a preliminary decision about arrest and not a final decision about chargings. if you are outraged by the law and don't like the law, then change it. >> well, later today, i'll be leading a rally in clearwater, florida, with the parents of trayvon martin and attorney ben krup calling for justice for markeis mcglockton fatally shot after an argument at a gas station. mcglockton's death reinvigorated conversation around florida's stand your ground law, which you
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heard pinellas county sheriff cite it in not arresting the shooter. against this backdrop, you have a state gubernatorial race where the winner will have the power to suspend the law or at least reform it. an alteration that after the outrage of mcglockton's request may find support from republican supporters of the law as well as the nra itself. more on that in a minute. joining me now is businessman and democratic candidate for governor, jeff green. jeff, good morning. you and i talked this morning on my radio show and you said,
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reverend, i'm coming to the rally. i'm against this law and i want to publicly say, as a very successful white businessman, who wants to be governor, that this law should be changed and i'm coming, no matter what, i think it's the wrong thing to do. why did you come to that conclusion? >> this is legalized murder. this doesn't need to be changed. this law needs to be repealed. the day i get to tallahassee, reverend, i'm going to fight for criminal justice reform and ending this law. florida cannot be a place with legalized murder where we have white on black crime going on constantly. haven't we learned enough after trayvon martin? the nra should be ashamed of themselves. this is one more murder, as far as i'm concerned, that is on their hands. she wrote the law. they have exported it across the
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country. we should be ashamed allowing it to be on the books. why the sheriff has not arrested this murderer is beyond me. >> when you say it's been exploited all over the country, let me show you this graphic. the fact is, nationwide, in 33 states where stand your ground laws are, when the shooter is white, victim white, justified 11 times out of 11. it's usually 11%. it's justified 11% of the time. when it's black on black, justified 8% of the time. when it's white on black, it's justified 34 important of the time. so, the numbers don't lie, to which you said. there is a clear, racials is spect to the application of stand your ground.
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>> 100%. look, we need in florida to have a strong governor, that's why i'm running, to end these injustices. i will address this from day one. we have to end mandatory minimum sentences, give back felons their rights after they serve their time. we have to end it. we have this prison industrial complex and pipeline, prison pipeline we have in florida is a horror. my goal, the day i get there will be the start. stand your ground is going to be the first thing. i'm not going to take no from these legislatures. if i have to veto every one of their bills, i will do that. when i'm headed to tall hass see, i'm not going to say, no, it must come from this state. follow us and get rid of the lips to kill. >> before you go to tallahassee
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to be governor, be with me this afternoon in clearwater as protester. >> i will be there. thank you. thank you for coming down and raising awareness. it's so important. people like you, reverend, that bring the awareness up to the level so everyone knows how unjust this is and how it must be. i thank you for coming and leading the rally. >> well thank you. >> i'll be at your side. >> thank you so much. earlier this week, tallahassee, florida mayor called on governor rick scott to suspend the stand your ground law, pending review by lawmakers. he's been out early and often on this issue. he, also, is running for democratic candidate in florida. he joins me now, tallahassee mayor and democratic candidate for mayor, andrew gillham.
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mayor, it's good to see even opponents in a primary can come together on this issue. let me show you tape of the actual shooting of this young man that we are rallying in clearwater this afternoon about. clearly, as we see the shooting and he goes back in the store, his 5-year-old son, standing there, he shoved him and he starts backing up and the guy comes out and shoots him. he says stands your ground, while he's backing up. the thing that also got to me, mr. mayor, is he died in front of his 5-year-old son standing at his side and two kids under the age of 2 years old, all of whom will be with their mother at the rally this afternoon, in the car watching them, traumatized for life. he went to the morgue and his shooter went home to bed and has
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not spent one night in jail. >> it doesn't make any sense, reverend. i'm thankful for you joining and leading today's rally in clearwater. i want to say, first, i want to welcome mr. green to my position on stand your ground. since the death of trayvon martin, we know this law has no place in civilized society. it makes life more dangerous for everybody. the fact you have an individual who becomes judge, juror and executioner in their own minds under the cover and protection of the law and the united states is a travesty of justice. today, i look forward to joining you as we call for an end to the law. as a father to two black boys, this is personal to me. i have watched too many of these tragedies take place and unfairly snuff out the lives of the people we love because of the way they look. we have to bring this law to a
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conclusion. i called earlier this week for the governor of the current state of florida, governor rick scott to call for a state of emergency. so long as there is confusion over the law, people's lives are on the line. he can call for an executive order, pausing for 60 days continuously until we get a full repeal of stand your gun law. >> what you said is a good point. the governor can repeal it or have an executive order right now. we are coming in, trayvon's parents because the people in clearwater have already been protesting. we are coming in to enhance them, not try and overshadow any of their work. because, at the end of the day, the people of the ground are going to have to make florida and the other 32 states change these laws. >> that's right.
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i tell you, i accept the fair challenge, if you don't like the law, repeal it. that's what we have to do. elections have consequences. they have been at a rough shot over the state. this legislation was pushed by the nra. i have experience, having beat them twice in court when they sued me and drug me through court because we said you cannot shoot guns in city parks where kids play and families picnic. in the state of florida, that's so radical of a nation we enable the nra. they are only acting in the best interest to keep the community safe. stand your ground puts all of our lives at risk, particularly the lives of our boys where stand your ground exists. >> i showed the graph of how it
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is not equally applied along racial lines. you and i and others are not trying to be polarizing when we bring up the racial aspect. we can have different opinions, but not different facts. the facts are what they are when you use stand your ground. it is applied differently when the race involved is different. >> we know that, reverend. i appreciate your fount. there is to simply face the facts. the facts do speak for themselves. there is a racial bias in the application of this law. if we are concerned about the safety of all people, why would we allow a law that creates confusion, conflict and puts, unfortunately, the lives at risk of predominantly our young men of color who find themselves, oftentimes on the other side of the law. for conservatives, we have state
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attorneys all over the state of florida that have hardened criminals before them, who they are attempting to prosecute and hold accountable for actions, being able to get away with committing heinous crimes under the cover after stand your ground. it doesn't make any of us safe. in fact, it provided a safe haven for those who intend our community harm. >> thank you, mayor. give my regards to reverend holmes. i'll see you in clearwater later today. up next, a face of the possible blue wave. a grieving mother now running for office. we'll be right back.
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as we have reported before, we are looking at a record number of women running for office at all levels, going into november's midterm election. but, within that record is another milestone that has been largely ignored by the mainstream. that more than 600 black women are running for federal, state and local seats. 36 of them in georgia, alone.
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among them, democratic congressional candidate, lucy. first, she was introduced to the nation as the grieving mother of jordan davis, who was fatally shot in 2012 by a white motorist after an argument over loud rap music. now, a consistent strong gun control activist, her potential victory in a district that han-shas been solidly democratic has some calling her one of the faces of a possible blue wave led by black women. joining me now is georgia democratic candidate for congress, lucy mcbayer. lucy, i have known you since 12, when your son was fatally shot and we worked together. national network has worked with you.
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but, you have been clear from day one, as you helped form mothers of the movement that you want to serve and not just serve black people, but everybody. what you are standing for is good for everybody and in a district that is not a universal black district, a majority black district, you won the democratic nomination, you won the run off and now you are going into the general election. what does this say about sustaining an activism that you have turned your pain into power and about the changing mood of a lot of things in this age of bush. sorry, trump. i'm probably used to saying bush. it is trump. i'm dating myself. >> reverend al, thank you for giving me the opportunity to speak. what we are seeing is a change, a sea change. i say this is what democracy looks like now.
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i think, in my making history as the first minority in the sixth congressional district ever to receive the nomination for the democratic party just as stacy has done in her race for for the gubernatorial candidacy, definitely begins to lend credence to the fact that this is now what democracy looks like. democracy has to and our legislators around the nation have to represent the democracy of all the people here in the country. we've got people that come here from all over the world. and so everyone, this is our democracy now. and we're the ones that are representing people that look like us, think like us, act like us. this is the politics of this future time, of this generation. so i just really want to say, i'm really excited to see so many women of color and just so many women period that have really taken a seat at the table because they understand and
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know -- there is so much at stake and futures are on the line. so we're really taking a lead and making sure that the politics of our communities and our states looks like, feels like, thinks like the people that actually live there. >> now, one of the appeals that you've made beyond gun control, you've dealt with health care. you have dealt with things that are across the board issues. and in any congressional district, and for that matter statewide or even national contest, they're are going to b disagreements. but there are central things that all voters are concerned about, like health care, like education, like retirement. and like equal protection under the law. as you campaign now for republicans to also vote for your crossover in the general, since you are the democratic nominee, have you found these kinds of issues that kind of go beyond the partisan divide?
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>> absolutely. and i've spoken to many republicans who have actually said to me, you know, these are the things that i'm concerned about. you know, we're concerned about health care. we're concerned about educating our children. we're concerned about gun violence. these are the same things that republicans and democrats are both concerned about. but what i see, i see a change. a shift. and what i'm hearing from republicans is that, yes, i need somebody that aligns with my beliefs. and my ideologies. things that i'm concerned about for the future. and i'm not necessarily -- i'm not going to tell you i'm going to leave the republican party, but i am definitely looking at candidates that serve my interests better. and i've had republicans tell me they're voting for me, because they believe in me as an individual and not necessarily are they going to be the ones that are lifelong democrats. but they're really taking a good
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look at the individual candidates they believe serve their interests the best. and i think this is a change. definitely is a sea change. and i think that is a lot of the reason why you'll begin to see a lot of these districts go from red to blue. >> well, we'll be watching the race. thank you so much to lucy mcbath. >> thank you. up next, my final thoughts. stay with us. -we're in a small room. what?! -welcome. -[ gasps ] a bigger room?! -how many of you use car insurance? -oh. -well, what if i showed you this? -[ laughing ] ho-ho-ho! -wow. -it's a computer. -we compare rates to help you get the price and coverage that's right for you. -that's amazing! the only thing that would make this better is if my mom were here. what?! an unexpected ending! you wouldn't accept an incomplete job from any one else. why accept it from your allergy pills? flonase sensimist relieves all your worst symptoms,
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i was struck last night when i saw randy moss, as he was inducted into the nfl hall of fame in caden, ohio, make this statement. >> so you asked me about my tie. >> yes. >> we all know what's going on. you see the names on my tie. being able to use a big platform like this here in the hall of fame. >> move your hand for a second. let's see the names on that tie. okay. >> so, you know, what i wanted to be able to express with my tie is let these families know they're not alone. >> i'd like to think that in all of the years that we have marched and we have done things, and i've been involved and we've changed laws and that we changed some policies, and sometimes we have. but other times, it was as with clearwater this afternoon, to
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also let families know that they're not standing alone. to use your platform, whatever it may be. with randy it was an nfl superstar career. with me, as other platforms, would you even in your life, you have platforms. but everyone using their platform for a greater good. there was a man named ron dellums, a congressman, almost 20 years older than me. but he, when i was growing up, stood up against the war in vietnam, stood up against apartheid in south africa and inspired people to stand up. he passed this week. but in his passing, he'll never know the people that he encouraged to use their platforms like ron dellums did. to speak truth to power and to comfort people in their hour of
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pain. one of those people he taught that to is hosting "politics nation." i'm going to use my platform to speak to a greater good, even in an age where it seems that goodness is called ignorant and opportunistic by those that would rather use their platforms just to enrich and empower themselves. that does it for me. thank you for watching. i'll see you back here next sunday. now to my colleague, david gura. >> i'm david gura. it is 9:00 in the east, 6:00 out west. and here is what's happening. some fresh tweets from the president over a new report this morning. did he just admit to knowing about that 2016 meeting at trump tower? also, what he had also about his comment at the media is the
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enemy of the people. >> they're so dishonest. these are among the most dishonest human beings you will ever meet. >> the president versus the king. the backlash against president trump's tweet insulting the intelligence of lebron james from athletes, from politicians and from the first lady. >> a bum. me and my friends call each other that all of the time. i'm not his friend, though. i don't want to see that. he's not my friend. >> if you don't run, trump's gonna win. would you run? >> in that case, i may. >> something he tweeted out but didn't come out in lebron james' home state of ohio, president trump was at a rally last night. so what did the president talk about? we begin with breaking news this morning. president trump in a tweet just moments ago appearing to suggest that his son, donald trump,
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