question who she is. making her question her faith in humanity. >> that's all for this edition of "dateline." i'm craig melvin. thank you for watching. good morning. in new york, it is 7:00 in the east. 4:00 out west. here's what's happening. breaking news, a stolen plane chased by military jets crashes into a small island. what the pilot told the control tower during the flight. and the president's legal team gets an unusual opportunity to criticize the russia probe. >> the moment we are living in is grave. the democratic party must be a party that fights fire with fire. we will make america decent again. >> stormy daniels attorney on why he's exploring a 2020

presidential run. and the white house fires back against an explosive claim by am rosa in her latest book. we begin with breaking news from washington state where investigators are trying to figure out why someone stole an empty commuter plane before it led to a crash about an hour later. the turbo prop was stolen by a ground service agent employed by horizon. this video appears to confirm sheriff's reports that the male sus seblpect was performing stu before the crash. >> there's no attempt to attack anybody or anything other than taking an airplane without permission, stealing an airplane and flying it around. apparently the person had enough -- enough training, enough sense or whatever to be able to maneuver it somewhat. this might have been a joyride gone terribly wrong.

>> two f-15 military jets chased the airplane but they did not cause the plane to crash into planes on the small, sparsely populated island. this is more video of the plane captured from the ground by local residents as it flew past. there are no reports on the ground where the plane crashed. they say the suspect is a 19-year-old male from pierce county, washington, now presumed dead. in a series of clips, you can hear exchanges between the suspect and the air tower just before the crash. >> i got a lot of people that care about me, and it's going to disappoint them since -- to hear that i did this. i would like to apologize to each and every one of them. just a broken guy, got a few screws loose, i guess, never

really knew it till now. damn it, andrew, people's lives are at stake here. >> oh, rich, don't say stuff like that. >> i told you i don't want to hurt no one. i want you to whisper sweet nothings in my ears. i'm going to land it in a safe kind of manner. i i'm going to do a barrel roll and if that goes good i'll go nose down and call it a night. i feel like one of my engines is going out or something. >> okay, rich, if you could, you just want to keep that plane right over the water, maybe keep the aircraft nice and low. >> authorities will no doubt listen to those recordings to better understand what happened. we'll hear from an aviation expert about how this could have happened coming up in just a few moments. new this morning more attacks on the russia investigation from president trump's lawyers. jay sekulow and rudy giuliani hosted the the radio show

yesterday and devoted the entire broadcast to reuping their argument the investigation is a witch hunt. they talked about again a sit down between the president and the mueller team and why certain questions should be off the table. one of those involves james comey's allegations that the president asked him to let go the investigation into michael flynn. >> no crime. if -- if it had been said the president says go easy on hi him. >> which the president says. >> he didn't say stop it, don't do it. so no crime. however, it didn't take place according to the president. according to comey it did. >> of course if it did it wouldn't have matter but then you -- but you're right, if there's two different recollections of a meeting now you set up a perjury situation. >> also new today amarosa is under fire for appearing to contradict herself over whether she actually heard the president

use a racial slur. she was told about the existence of the so-called n word tape recorded during outtakes of the apprentice tv show years ago but in an interview she insisted she heard the tape herself even when pressed. >> and once i heard it. >> you have heard this tape. >> >> i heard this tape. >> you heard the president of the united states -- >> i heard the president of the united states use not only the n word, but as bill pruitt described during that interview other horrible things during the production of the apprentice. >> you don't mention that in the book that you've actually heard the tape. is this new? >> oh, no, it's mentioned in the book. >> that sowns like you just heard his account of the tape. did you actually hear the tape? >> i did. >> did you miss this? girl, did you read my book? >> sarah huckabay sanders saying

this book is riddled with lies and false accusations it's sad that a disgruntled former white house employee is trying to profit off these attacks. let's bring in our chief washington correspondent for bloomberg tv. kevin, you have been covering the white house. what is conventional wisdom on all these claims aam rosa? >> just last night just about how the fact checkers in this book industry, whether it's amarosa's book or others have had a hard time keeping up. she has said things in the past that have been questioned. said things that are true, said things that aren't true, so she's saying one thing. the white house is saying another. i think until, you know, that's where it is with omarosa. >> given that omarosa's credibility is already in

question, will any of these claims stick without providing tangible evidence? >> i think that's the question everyone is asking. it's interesting because she's kind of going back and forth. she says well, i heard the tape, but i don't have the tape and i think that's the issue. i mean, she's going back to, you know, president trump's days working on the aparen tigs and you know, we remember his days when he was on the apprentice, that infamous access hollywood tape that had such a huge impact on the campaign. this probably won't stick unless something is released but i think something i want to really stress is omarosa is not the first white house aide to turn on a president. we had scott mcclellan with bush and i think the difference here is how, you know, how people have -- how sources have said that she was treated so poorly when she left the white house and even during her time at the white house. her role was considered nebulous. we didn't really know exactly what she was doing or really

could pinpoint her, i guess how she was carrying out the agenda in the white house and i think a lot of other people who have worked in trump's orbit, who worked in the campaign but were really pushed aside before going into the white house have really expressed the frustration with how they were treetsated. so i don't know how this would have all played out if omarosa wasn't treated as badly when she left or maybe when she was working at the white house. >> i'm sure it would have been a different book by then. well, kevin, there's also reports about omarosa secretly recording private conversations with the president. the washington post say they have listened which match the book's excerpts. here's what anthony scaramucci had to say. >> my guess is probably nothing on those tapes and certainly even though she's writing a book which i think she's really trying to be objective in the book i think she's very loyal to

the president. i talked to omarosa yesterday. she loves the the president and the president's family. and i don't think there's anything in those tapes that are going to be explosive or nefarious but i don't like the notion if it is true i didn't ask her if it is or it isn't. i don't like the notion that people are taping him. >> kevin, first is scaramucci right saying there's probably nothing explosive on those recordings because we would have heard about it by now? >> well, i mean people have been recording him now for quite some time. look, with regards to omarosa i think this is someone who has proven over the course of her career to have a political reality, television show type of personality in which she's been able to stay relevant but i want to speak to what julia mentioned in terms of the tension within the administration previously from the campaign to when it became the administration and now into the first term and that is there is this inherent tension between folks who were outside of the political

establishment, people like omarosa, people who were around people like michael cohen who were around the trump organization and when he was launching into that reality television career versus the more establishment type of washingtonians. that was on full display and what you saw was lewandowski out, michael cohen flipped and you've seen some of those original folks completely remove them now and the establishment types won here inside of the beltway. >> i want to turn to this real quick. the president's attorneys rudy giuliani and jay sekulow hosted an entire broadcast talking about the mueller investigation. how unusual is that and what stood out to you most from their conversation? >> well, it's certainly unusual but i think it fits with president trump, like his pr and

how he works with sean hannity. he's a huge outlet to conservatives but to trump supporters and putting jay sekulow and rudy giuliani was a way of trying to communicate to them their view on the investigation, try to, i guess dismiss the legitimacy of it, try to put their view out there, try to reassure a lot of trump supporters ahead of the midterms, you know, ahead of 2020 saying, to dismiss it, to make them feel better essentially. some of the points that stood out to me were the points about comey and clinton. i think it's interesting because these two individuals suck low and giuliani don't work in i guess a political capacity you could say in the white house. they're representing the president from a legal perspective so interesting to see them kind of delve into this other realm. it's not the first time giuliani has done it. he's been going on cable news circuit for weeks now saying this type of stuff. >> thanks so much.

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visit your local xfinity store today. we're following breaking news this morning from the seattle area where an airline ground agent stole an empty commuter turbo prop plane and flew it about an hour before it crashed on a small island and exploded into flames. at this point it appears that no one on the ground was hurt. joining me now is our aviation analyst john cox and what are your thoughts about what occurred here? >> well, first i was very, very surprised to read about this this morning. this is a really unusual set of circumstances. and this individual that was reportedly a ground service agent, for him to be able to get

the airplane started and to taxi it and take it off and fly it, that takes a lot of specialized knowledge and i was very surprised that this occurred. >> so john, tell me, what do you make of the fact that he wasn't a pilot but that he was able to fly that plane? >> well, he indicates when he's talking to air traffic control that he has quote, played a lot of video -- or flown a lot of video games and i guess that gave him the basic knowledge, but it surprised me because the q 400 turbo prop, it's a pretty complex airplane and it requires a lot of things to be done in a specific sequence to get the engine started and you know, to take off and to get the controls unlocked and all of those sorts of things. i was surprised that he was actually able to do that. >> it's rather amazing if you say you can corelate a video game to being inside the cockpit of a q 400.

so what would it take for him to get it off the ground? >> one of the big things is getting the engines started. they require a specific sequence of events, levers to be moved to get the airplane engines both running and capable of producing thrust for takeoff. and he did that. and then in addition and we don't know whether he had the flaps configured or takeoff and all of the other things, we don't know that yet. we will when the flight data recorder is read out so he taxied out on to a runway, he found that runway, air traffic control is calling repeat edly trying to figure out who that is and trying to get it air born so it's a lot of -- i guess the video games he was pretty careful about and i think he had probably preplanned this to be able to look and say okay, where is there an airplane that i can get access to where somebody

else -- another employee won't challenge me. so i think there were some planning that went into it in advance. >> and john, as a ground control employee, would he have been able to be watching pilots or have any exposure to pilots to know how to turn on this plane and get it moving? >> i guess that's possible. if he was looking very carefully, but he would not be authorized to ride on the jump seat or anything like that, so he may have been able to watch if he knew somebody that was a private pilot fly a smaller aircraft but that wouldn't have given him the specific knowledge of how to start a q 400. >> and john, i do want to ask you, is there anything that could have prevented this? >> well, we don't know yet. the investigation is just getting started and they're going to look very carefully at if there was a breach of any of the security processes and procedures, but as an employee of the airline he has been

background checked. he's been vetted. he is known to people and an airline employees walk back and forth and get on and off of planes quite frequently. this is when the maintenance is done and the cleaning is done so having a valid airline id would allow him access to the airplane which is appropriate, but the investigation is going to look into all of those things to see if there was a way that this could have been prevented, but as i say, the investigation is just getting started so we ned to let that process unfold. >> right. and john, we heard earlier him speaking with the tower and he complained after light headedness. would that be something happening possibly with the plane if he had done something wrong with the instruments? >> i -- if he was light headed i think it was probably more from adrenaline. he was down low enough where the pressurization system would not have mattered.

the q 400 is pressurized because it flies up to 25,000 feet but he's not that high so i think it's a higher likelihood that just the sensory overload and the adrenaline that he would have been experiencing, that may have accounted for his comment about the light headedness. >> quite an amazing night there. thank you so much for joining us this morning. an hour's long delay in the paul manafort trial. what was behind it and whether this is unusual. sfx: [cell phone dialing]

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new information coming out of day nine of the paul manafort trial including testimony from a former bank vice president who says manafort quickly got $16 million in loans with the help of a ceo who was angling for a job in the trump administration. joining me now is our legal analyst, and danny, good to have you with us this morning. the judge delays testimony for five hours without offering an explanation as to why. are delays like this typical and

what does it signify? >> they can be typical and if you're an outsider or somebody watching you may never find out what exactly happened but it may have happened to do with something like jurors. even the tiniest thing with jurors can blow up into a multihour ordeal. anything that tends to show the juror's bias, information from outside sources, concealment of information during voir dire, these are all things that can potentially launch a multihour investigation and many conferences with each side, the attorneys, who will then decide whether or not this juror should be bounced or whether it's safe to keep them. >> and this week the "new york times" reported that the special counsel rejected the latest terms for an interview with the russia investigation. is the president entitled to a narrow path for answering

questions? >> no other defendant in the federal system has been entitled to anything when it comes to an interview and any assistant u.s. attorney will tell you that that they've never considered negotiating the terms of an interview and they wouldn't dream of running it up the chain of command to ask whether or not hey, instead of sitting down with this person, can we submit written questions. someone's career would be over in the u.s. attorney's office if they did something like that. so -- but with the president, we are on totally new ground. we're in new territory, maybe he is the one person who can negotiate the terms of an interview or even questions be they written or oral. but based on the 99.9% of all other defendants who have come before the doj in my experience i would say the likelihood of being able to limit an interview is 0.0. >> an op ed written for the

washington post in which he writes enough is enough. it's time to subpoena the president. is that the only option left? >> it may be the only option but mueller may not take that option because it may cause too much especially if mueller believes that the president cannot be subpoenaed and cannot be held in contempt for failure to comply which the weight of the law appears to tend to show that he can be subpoenaed although it's been untested but it may ultimately be a judgment call by mueller. he may decide that hey, i can't take this addition step or i don't need to because i have all the other information that i need and i don't necessarily want to wade into the hornet's nest that would be trying to subpoena the president. but i want to make very clear that in terms of negotiating power, mueller holds most, if not all of the cards here. >> danny, great to have you here, i'm sure we'll be watching this trial go on for a while. thanks for joining me on this saturday morning. and that will do it for me.

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