of "dateline" friday. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com welcome to "kasie d.c." i'm kasie hunt. we are live every sunday from washington from 7:00 to 9:00 p.m. eastern. tonight, one year after violence overtook the streets of charlottesville, virginia, thousands take to the streets of washington. our nbc reporters are live all over the city. plus, the president tries to cool the rhetoric. while one of his long-time collaborateers accuses him of being a racist. later, long-time listener, first-time caller, the president's legal team takes their case to primetime radio as they assail the attorney general

on twitter. known for the history of nonviolent expression, is watching and waiting. a handful of white nationalists, just two dozen, gathered within sight of the white house earlier. thousands more met them head-on during a rainy night here in the nation's capital. and i want to start with our team of reporters that has been out in the rain all day and night. i want to start with garrett haake. garrett, you started your day at the metro meeting this small group of protesters, frankly. can you walk us through what you've seen over the course of today? >> sure, kasie. it was clear from the word go that this rally was not going to be everything that it was advertised as. when organizers put it together, they had told people to meet at the metro in vienna, virginia around 2:00 so they could come into the city as a big group and a show of force and for their own protection. they got their protection from

mpd once they made it to the district of columbia. there was no show of force. only two dozen or so with jason kessler the organizer of charlottesville last year, and doing the unite the white rally 2.0 here in d.c. today, the disorganization, the disunity, the lack of message was clear from the start. most of these folks showed up. they didn't even have metro cards so they marched into the vienna metro station and then marched right up to the metro card machine and had to slow themselves down to buy fare to get into the district. and the message was muddled from the word go as well. kessler tried to tell me in an interview that this was not a racist event, that this was all about free speech. then i started talking to some of the people who showed up with them and two young white supremacists, there is really no other word for it, told me they considered white americans to be the founding stock of this country. and if you weren't a white european american, you were somehow less american than they.

so no message unity. the ride in on the train was probably the highlight of the day for these guys because they had the press attention to themselves. and when they got into the city they were completely and utterly overwhelmed by the thousands of counter protesters that swarmed them every step of the way from the metro here to lafayette park behind me and stayed with them all day long until they left. >> garrett, can i ask you, i've seen some traffic and some people frankly raising questions about whether these white nationalists were given separate cars on the metro to bring them in to washington, d.c. since you were there, what did you see? >> i was on the train. there was a car that was entirely white nationalist and reporters, but i don't know that that was done under the direction of anyone except people on the platform who also looked around and decided they didn't want to be in a metro car full of white nationalists and reporters. there were other people on that train coming in from vienna, but

they were riding in different cars. it's not clear to me that that was done at the direction of police. rather, just some good sensible virginians who looked around and said there's probably another car on this train they'd rather ride in. >> i absolutely want to be no part of this. garrett, thank you. jeff bennett, can you talk us through what you've seen from your vantage point? and also obviously after this happened in charlottesville, just one year a go, all the attention turned to president trump and his really response or lack thereof to what we had seen in the streets of charlottesville. how are things different this year? >> kasie, you're 100% right. look, jason kessler, the organizer behind unite the right, the rally last year and this sequel rally, initially wanted to hold the follow-up in charlottesville. but he was denied a permit there the so he turned his attention to washington, d.c. and the national park service approved his permit for what he called a white civil rights rally because the national park service says that they are forced to approve any first amendment rights event. so he thought he was going to be

coming in closer proximity to president trump, even though this is a weekend in which we know president trump is at his private golf resort in bedminster where he's finishing up his week there. but we've seen the president just yesterday sort of issue that preemptive tweet where he says, i condemn racism on all sides. so some people have really characterized that standing in stark contrast to what he said last year where he drew this moral equivalence between the white nationalists, the white supremacists and those who were protesting against him. however, some people have read that same tweet and said, look, the president still can't condemn these white supremacists. he can't call out their bad acts. so we had this tweet from the president today, ivanka trump, the president's daughter and white house aide added her voice to all of this saying she condemns specifically racism, white nationalism, nazism, says it has no place in our country. so the question is what will the president say when he's in an unguarded, unscripted moment and he gets a question about this, whether it's an oval office spray, whether it's a south lawn scrum, whether -- he's going to do an event tomorrow. there will be some press pool

reporters there. what will he say when he's caught off guard? i think that will be far more illustrative and far more instructive. kasie. >> and we should note of course, jeff, the permit that was given to mr. kessler was for upwards of 400 people. he showed up with just two dozen. jeff bennett, thanks very much for your reporting. we'll be checking back in with you tonight. >> sure. >> meanwhile i want to welcome in my panel with me on set, former rnc chairman and political analyst, michael steele. whouts reporter for l.a. times and nbc political analyst eli stokols. polster and msnbc political analyst cornell belcher and the president of the national urban league and former mayor of new orleans, mark morial. thank you all for being here tonight. michael steele, i want to start with you as somebody who is -- there is a lot being ascribed to what i think is still your party, although you have had some major differences over the course of the last year. >> we're working that out. >> but what do you read into what you saw today with this frankly dismal showing, and what the president had to say about it so far?

>> i kind of ignore the showing in all of that. that's "melodrama" that will play itself out one way or the other. 24 people, 400 people, that is what it is. how that is ultimately framed in my view is what we have relied on in the past and that is a president who speaks into the moment and clarifies and defines where we are as american citizens when it comes to this type of hate-filled response to fellow americans. and the fact that the president is giving us sort of, you know, sort of a lightweight response on twitter. hate racism of all kinds. okay, but we're specifically talking about this, all right? can you narrow it down for us just a little bit with respect to what's happening in your front yard? and the fact that he still can't do that, that to me is the lesson that every american should take from what we see this weekend. >> mark morial, to michael steele's point, the president is

not out front leading on this tonight. >> the rally by the unite the right group is an absolute flop, a failure, a poor showing. 30 people and all of this anticipation, all of this mobilization, all of the public resources spent by the city of washington and the federal government and the taxpayers for 30 people to show up. but secondly, this was an opportunity for the president to make a forceful unequivocal statement. go look at mitt romney's statement. look at ivanka trump's statement. those statements are more on mark of the type of statement we'd like to see the president make. this is a moral moment.

this is a moment where we expect the president to speak unequivocally. he seems to not be able to really get to the point where he condemns this awful ideology of nazism and anti-semitism. we need him to lead at this difficult and challenging time in american history. we haven't heard that. and i think we should hear it. >> cornell belcher, first of all, your perspective on what we've seen unfold in the streets of washington today. what kind of lasting damage might president trump be doing to public relationships with the gop for african americans thinking about where can i have a home? >> right, where can i have a home is a big issue. we've seen in a lot of polling and cbs polling, we did polling in battle ground for african americans for black pac. you have over 70% of americans thinking that racism is on the rise, right?

and a majority think their communities are under attack. so that's the sort of reality for minorities, for many minorities who thought so much of this was in the past. we are again watching ku klux klan and white supremacists march through the streets of washington, right? but i also at the same time, to the chairman's point on this, the 30 people showing doesn't mean anything, right? because we understand it's a strategy they're going underground. and when you look at sort of the racism that i think trump is making okay again in this country, that's going to hurt us long term because one of the things i talked about before is we're not going to get whiter as a country so we better figure out how to live with each other whether you're republican or democrat. we have to do a better job of figuring out how to live with each other and the president must play a central role in that. >> yeah. eli stokols, from a political perspective, this is a president who feeds off crowds. he watches what happens in front of him. he tosses things out to the crowd. he sees how they react to it and oftentimes he'll continue to say something because it seemed to resonate.

it does president seem to me that this small group of extremists really had any sort of showing that should suggest that this is something with a real constituency. >> if he's watching tv tonight, and we have no reason to think he's not, because he watches tv pretty much every day. he's seeing this and he is not going to take satisfaction, he's not going to claim credit. if anything, he might distance himself from it. but before he could see the crowds as everybody here has pointed out. he had a chance to make a strong statement condemning not all kinds of racism, but specifically white supremacists. the president is really good at giving these mealy mouth statements open to interpretation so he can say, i condemned racism. what do you want me to do? but he can leave enough room there for people who want to march in these rallies or attend these meetings or pop off on facebook with racist ideas, he can leave enough daylight for them to think, he's actually with us. that protest that we saw in charlottesville a year ago, that hadn't been seen before donald

trump was president and from all the reporters who were in the crowd talking to people, the majority of the white supremacists who showed up believed rightly or wrongly that this president was on their side, that he understood them differently than past presidents, past political leaders before and there was an excitement about that. and if that is not the case, it's incumbent on the president to send a stronger message to say, i do not support this and as yet he has not. >> michael steele, this is a question that chuck todd asked of a member of congress on "meet the press" a week or tua go. he asked, is the republican party becoming the party that is fundamentally anti-black? >> i don't know if i'll go that far yet. we have our roots, though. we have our roots when there was a southern strategy in the nixon campaign in '68 to bring into the fold this particular ilk of person, to put it politely, this kind of trash, because there was some electoral benefit presumably that would come from it. there was no consideration given to the poison that would infect the body politic within the gop,

that here we are now some 50 years later having to deal with a president, a republican president who, to the point that was just made, gives countenance to it, that gives room to that. so, the party has to now, irrespective of the president, the party has to account for this because i don't know how we go into a black community, into an hispanic community and say, come, join us, be a part of us. it's not justify to say you're conservative, not enough to say you go to church on sunday. it's not enough to put that on the table any more when you have this body of work by this administration. you've got the rhetoric and everything else that says something very different to communities of color in this country. and it's a real problem. >> mark morial, jump in. >> i want to offer, i think it's an interesting arc, if you will, from george bush circa 2001 talking about affirmative access, appointing colin powell and later condaleeza rice as secretaries of state. a gop in the congress that had a j.c. watts in its leadership and

a gop that had a michael steele as its chair. that party would seem to be maybe making small steps is a very different scene today. michael steele, a j.c. watts, a colin powell, a condee rice, they were in the republican movement in 2000s. this is a directional shift when you have a corey stewart, a patrick little as candidates nominated or candidates running under the gop banner. so i think the difficulty for the gop is not only in its leadership optics and in the president's rhetoric, but also the fact that there are no longer any credible african americans in any leadership role anywhere, it seems, in the congress or in the executive branch. it's hard to make up a particularly when you've got a changing landscape in the country not to even mention the lack of latino leaders in the very same party. so you've got to look at this in terms of where it's come from maybe 15 years ago to where it is directionally in the wrong direction if you consider the demographic shifts in the country for the gop. >> fair points.

we are just getting started here on "kasie d.c." we're going to take you back live to the streets in washington as some of the most dramatic moments come from antifa protesters. plus reality show plot twist 15 years in the making. omarosa throws the book at the president. we're back after this. mr. president, do you feel betrayed by omarosa, sir? >> low life, she's a low life. okay, thank you, everybody. >> i will say this to you. i was complicit were this white house deceiving this nation. they continue to deceive this nation by how mentally declined he is, how difficult it is for him to process complex information, how he is not country for the gop. >> fair points. we are just getting started here on "kasie d.c." we're going to take you back live to the streets in washington as some of the most dramatic moments come from antifa protesters. plus reality show plot twist 15 years in the making. omarosa throws the book at the president. we're back after this. this wi-fi is fast.

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mr. president, do you feel betrayed by omarosa, sir? >> low life, she's a low life. okay, thank you, everybody. >> i will say this to you. i was complicit were this white house deceiving this nation. they continue to deceive this nation by how mentally declined he is, how difficult it is for him to process complex information, how he is not engaged in some of the most

important decisions that impact our country. i was complicit and for that i regret. >> welcome back to "kasie d.c." omarosa has now been relegated to the list of people that the president has dismissed as low lives. that includes ted cruz, eric harryman son, and someone who is not bob costa. i wish i knew off the top of my head who it is. it is easy to forget omarosa and the president were collaborateers in one way or another for 15 years. >> i want you to go out to laelgz, greet these guys, and over a period of weeks you're going to decide whether or not there is somebody for you. good-bye, sweetheart. good luck, have a good time. >> will it work? the new show on tv one is called donald j. trump presents the ultimate merger. donald and omarosa, welcome. >> thank you. >> first of all, describe the right guy for omarosa. what kind of guy should omarosa -- >> i don't know if there is a right guy. i don't think there is any man in the world that can handle this.

she's smart, she's tough, but she's good. she has a good heart, i will say that. >> there is a reason you liked her even though you had trouble in the beginning. >> i hated her from the beginning but i also loved her. and the show went to number one on many weekends as you know. >> are they all rich guys, who are these guys? >> donald chose a mixture of six wealthy guys, the other six not so much. he wanted to see who i would end up with. >> okay. omarosa defended the president even in the wake of her departure, some would say firing from the white house, and that includes in the wake of his response to the charlottesville rally. >> i would never sit nor work for someone who i believed to be a racist. >> many people feel that the president, at worst, is a racist and at best is a sympathizer for white supremacists. is he? >> donald trump is racial, but he is not a racist. yes, i will acknowledge many of the exchanges, particularly in the last six months have been racially charged. do we then just stop and label

him as a racist? no. >> times have changed, and now omarosa is leveling accusations at the president, including that she has heard a tape of him using a racial slur. >> and i know it exists. and what i regret is that these people are probably trying to leverage it as this october surprise. i don't want to be a part of that. but i have heard for two years that it existed and once i heard it for myself, it was confirmed what i feared the most, that donald trump is a con, and has been masquerading as someone who is actually open to engaging with diverse communities. but when he talks that way, the way he did on this tape, it confirmed that he is truly a racist. being used by donald trump for so long, i was like the frog in the hot water. you don't know that you're in that situation until it just keeps bubbling and bubbling. it's clear in hindsight. >> the white house disputes many of her claims. we are going to welcome into our conversation here former u.s. attorney and former msnbc contributor, joyce vance.

i want to get you into the legality of taping something in the situation room. but first you were watching the tape of omarosa and shaking your head. please do tell us what you were thinking. >> i was thinking so many different things. one is actually i want -- i know she is your bff. but she says she's not the best vehicle for this, but some of the things she said on "meet the press" do ring true, like he can't grasp knowledge and information. he's challenged. but she's such a bad vehicle on it because the idea that omarosa didn't know that he was a racist and omarosa didn't know he was a bad person until the point where she was benefiting from it, right? and it's just, it's sad to see -- reality television has eaten our culture and now it's eaten our politics.

>> michael steele, the difference between racial and racist, i mean she seemed to be kind of really struggling to make that distinction at first. >> it's silly, it is silly. you know, he's being racial. oh, okay. no, racist. just call it what it is. >> a spade a spade. >> and the fact is she couldn't at the time because she was all up in it. she was, you know, in the white house. she was part of trump world doing her thing. and now she is presumably outside of that. i'm still not convinced that that's really the case. those two are two sides of the same coin, all right. and she's talking about, you know, he calls her low life. well, donald, that's your low life. you created that low life. you gave impetus to that. so now you're reaping what you sowed and we're supposed to fall down and go poor omarosa? please, spare me. >> we have one of your tweets to put on the screen. i'm not sure if it has to be bleeped. omarosa, when you said every critic, every detractor will have to bow down to president trump.

does that include you? #not credible. >> when she sort of broke into the news cycle with the book and some of the early interviews on this, that interview that she gave where she looked into the camera and very seriously told america that all of you detractors, all of you who ever said a bad word about donald trump, you will bow down to donald trump. i'm sitting there going, does that include you? because clearly you're one of those detractors. so it is so disingenuous. it is so reality tv yid. and i agree with you, cornell. this is now an infection of our politics and it's unfortunate. so for all of us, we should just kind of stop it. >> yeah. so, the part of chuck's interview from earlier that is possibly drawing the most attention is a secret recording that omarosa claims she made in the situation room, "the situation room."

as she was being removed from the white house for what chief of staff john kelly called, quote, integrity violations. >> i think it is important to understand that if we make this a friendly departure, we can all be, you know, you can look at your time here in the white house as a year of service to the nation. and then you can go on without any type of difficulty in the future relative to your reputation. >> white house press secretary sarah sanders just released a statement tonight that reads, quote, the very idea a staff member would sneak a recording device into the white house situation room shows a blatant disregard for our national security -- and then to brag about it on national television further proves the lack of character and integrity of this disgruntled former white house employee. so, joyce vance, just kind of from your perspective as a former law enforcement official,

is she in any legal jeopardy here doing something like this? i mean, is there anything she's opening herself up to? also, did you read anything into kind of what john kelly said to her at the top? it sounded to me like he suspected she might be recording the entire thing, making mention to lawyers that were present in the room, and then refusing to explain further. >> there is likely a technical crime or two that's been committed here. obviously prosecutors don't choose to prosecute every technical crime that's been committed, but she probably should get herself a lawyer and be in consultation. i think your second point is a pretty interesting one, though. typically i wouldn't think that the president's chief of staff would need to take an employee into the situation room to fire them. and it seems like he may have taken her into the situation room contemplating that as a secure facility, she wouldn't be able to take a phone or another recording device in with her. and it's an incredible lapse, frankly, of security in this white house that she was in the

situation room with a phone at all, whether it was recording or not. so, a lot of different layers here to peel back. >> eli stokols, what is your sort of view on this as somebody who has covered the interactions of this white house? are you surprised by john kelly's conductor by the fact that this phone was in the situation room? or is it actually just how business is done? >> no, i mean, the omarosa episode of this presidency is the least surprising one that we've seen yet, right? this is a reality tv president, we have a reality tv contestant. they put her in the white house. she was fired in season one. like, what do you think is going to happen? the fact is there has never been any process or protocol in this west wing. that's part of it. and so in a normal administration it would be shocking that someone like omarosa would be in the situation room with a recording device. >> or just in the situation room at all. >> exactly. but this is not -- you know, when the white house comes out

and puts out these statements, the other day it was the president who directed staff to put out the first statement he wanted to respond to this book. they put out another one today about the interviews this morning. this is bothering the president. he doesn't like it. and the statements make sense. it does reflect on omarosa's character to be doing this. but the question always comes next. why was she there? why was she given this position? why was she given $180,000 taxpayer salary? i think we know what the answer is. the answer is there were not a lot of minorities who were willing to go -- >> you took our answer, tokenism. >> it's hard to say when you're a reporter reporting on this white house, but there are not -- there's nobody else in there. kellyanne conway got a question this morning, who is the next highest ranking black official in the white house? she's pretty good in these interviews at vamping and she was stumped. >> so let me clarify the record

for everybody. take us back in time between november and january and then january till about march of this year, of 2017. when you talk about african americans coming into the white house, i was part of a small group that put together a very comprehensive list of african-american republicans who had served in prior administrations who were willing to come in and assist this president and to transition and all of that. you know who blocked those very same african-americans from getting the consideration they would want or need to have a position in the administration? none other than the one and only omarosa. so, you know, this plaintiff cry about, i'm the only african-american -- well, that's how you wanted it because you blocked the people that we had put together to submit to the white house through chris christie and his team at the time, and that didn't happen. so don't cry that river. >> you have this epiphany when you're trying to sell a book. she's known for a decade. >> also remarkable, i'm sorry we have to press pause. when we continue, rudy giuliani says that conversation between the president and james comey

about letting go of the michael flynn investigation, filed a big if true. back with more "kasie d.c." after this.

this is the president speaking. i hope you can see your way clear to letting this go, to letting flynn go. he is a good guy. i hope you can let this go. now, those are his exact words. is that correct? >> correct. >> and you wrote them here and you put them in quotes. >> correct. i took it as a direction. >> all right. >> this is the president of the united states with me alone saying, i hope this. i took it as this is what he wants me to do. >> that was former fbi director james comey testifying before

congress back in june of 2017 about the now infamous conversation he had with president trump about michael flynn. now the president's lawyer rudy giuliani is claiming that conversation never happened. directly contradicting his own comments from just a month ago. >> so you're saying that president trump and james comey never discussed michael flynn? >> that is what he will testify to if he's asked that question. they already know that. so why are they asking us for him to repeat what they already know under oath. >> and you're also saying that a month ago you didn't tellance news that he said something along the lines of -- >> of course not. >> -- can you give him a break? >> i did not. i said that is what comey says. >> how is he a good witness for the president if he said the president is asking him in his words to direct him to let the flynn investigation go? >> he didn't direct him that.

comey says -- >> he didn't direct him to, can you give him a break. you said that. >> i also said before that i'm talking about their version of it. lawyers argue in the alternative. i know it's complicated but my goodness we've been over it long enough. why would i say something that isn't true? >> dear jesus. >> joyce vance, the disdecemberibling we often get from rudy giuliani on whatever iteration of the defense that they are trying to mount on the president's behalf whatever they are trying to claim, this seems like a remarkable and very clear instance where rudy giuliani did acknowledge that that conversation, some version of that conversation, had taken place. and now he is saying that it didn't. >> i think we're long past the

point, sadly enough, where we can take anything that comes out of giuliani's mouth at face value. he's here to run a p.r. strategy for the president to either confuse the american people or simply to turn them off to the point where they won't be outraged when the president's multiple failures, including the failure to testify come to light. and if we get to the point where there are impeachment proceedings. this is really about keeping the public from demanding that their elected representatives move forward with impeachment, much more than it's a legal strategy. but if this is true and if the president, in fact, can test jim comey's statement, then the best way for him to clear this up is to agree to do that interview with special counsel robert mueller, to go in and to tell his version of what happened, to give him credibility points, and let the special counsel zero out the investigations comey has made. the president's failure of willingness to do that cuts against jim comey's comments. >> is there any way to prove this, the president insists the conversation with comey never happened, and comey says it did? how do prosecutors figure out who is telling the truth? >> sure. so, it's a he said/she said sort of situation. and if prosecutors were going to file charges about this specific incident, they would have to believe that they could prove

beyond a reasonable doubt that the president did this. it could be part of a conspiracy or some other charges, but if they're directly going to talk about this incident, they've got to be able to prove it beyond a reasonable doubt. if it's just jim comey's word against the president's, then i wouldn't expect them to go forward. but that's not to say that there couldn't be some circumstantial guarantees, including the fact that the president ushered, in effect, everyone else out of the room for this very unusual one-on-one conversation between the president and the fbi director. >> of course. okay. meanwhile, the president snuck in a broadside against attorney general jeff sessions in a tweet yesterday calling him, quote, scared stiff and missing in action. and it certainly wasn't the first time he's publicly shamed his own attorney general. let's run through some of the other notable examples. in a july 2017 tweet, the president called him, quote, beleaguered. a day later he said he had taken a, quote, very weak position on hillary clinton crimes. after sessions appointed an inspector general to investigate

potential fisa abuse instead of doing it himself in february, he called the decision disgraceful. who could forget trump was referring to his attorney general as, quote, mr. mcgoo. eli stokols, how is the attorney general affected when the president of the united states is talking about him in such fashion? >> i don't know that he is. he's recused himself. that's why the president is angry at the end of the day. he's not having any impact on that. the president as much as he likes to spout off on twitter does not really like to fire people. so that's why sessions is still there. and, you know, i think -- >> the "you're fired" president doesn't like to fire people? >> that's the reality. he has the ability to fire sessions if he wants to. he hasn't done that even despite

talking about it on twitter. >> i have a twist on it. i do think jeff sessions is very -- is doing exactly to a certain extent what he wants to do and what the president wants to do because when you look at the way he's rolling back a lot of common sense criminal justice reform acts -- >> fair. >> and when he's throwing out a lot of work the obama administration did, right up the street in baltimore around reforming -- around reform, he's rolling that back and trying to implement the 1980s law and order sort of nonsense we threw out a long time and locking more people up and building more prisons. he's very effective at that. >> we often talk about him in to do whatever it takes, use every possible resource.

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please remember not to think of heather, but think of why she was here. she was here to support equality. she was here to support affordable housing. she was here to support taking care of people the way that you would want to be taken care of. >> of course, today was also a day of mourning in charlottesville. heather heyer was killed one year ago today after a man drove his car through a crowd of counter protesters during last year's white nationalist rally. she was just 32 years old and her mother, who you saw there, was -- laid flowers today on the makeshift memorial and two state troopers were killed as they tried to keep the peace in the

streets of charlottesville. mark morial, i want to ask you. we talked a lot about how damaging this resurgence of white nationalism and white supremacy is to our national conversation, but the flip side of it is that we have seen a lot of americans stand up, take to the streets and say, no, this is not, this is not who we are. we are standing against this hateful speech and language and, you know, in some ways it could be viewed through the most positive possible lens as an opportunity for people to show courage. >> well, i think people have shown courage out of necessity. i think there is a sense that this white supremacist movement can, because of the climate of the country, because of the rhetoric in the white house, become legitimatized and become a normalized political force, which is extremely dangerous for the future of the nation. but what it has done is lit a fuse, lit a fuse of activism among young people. it's compelled people to get organized. it's compelled people to examine

their own commitments and their own consciousness. and i think that what it is doing is fueling -- look at the response. 30, if you will, neo-nazi alt-right unite the right protesters and thousands of people in opposition and a lot of conversation going on on social media in support of the same. so, you are right, but this is a necessity. i think this generation, my generation, your generation, we're saying we are not in today's climate going to allow the hands of time to be turned back without a fight, without a vigorous fight, without a passionate fight, without a political fight. we cannot let it reoccur. we cannot let it be normalized. >> all right. cornell belcher, thank you very much for being on the show today. we will hear a little more from

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>> have you ever seen something so beautiful that all you could say was wow? welcome back to "kasie dc." the implications of today's march are reverberating in the race in illinois's third congressional district as the republican party's sole candidate, arthur jones, has past neo-nazi ties and is a holocaust denier. jones is running despite the national party disavowing his candidacy. here's a look at what he said during an interview with nbc news morgan ratford back in june. >> do you think black people are genetically inferior? >> the average iq of a black person is about 20 points lower than the average iq of a white person. >> i want to harvard. >> all right. and you got a lot of white blood in you, too. >> some white blood. i'm african-american. >> well that's where your intelligence is coming from, you think? >> you think it comes from my white side? >> i think so. >> unbelievable. but for those unenthused about casting their vote for him or for democratic incumbent daniel

la pinsky, an independent candidate has emerged. justin hanson joins me now on set. justin, thanks so much for being here. let's start simply you launched your campaign in your backyard and you had an unwelcome visitor. >> we did, we had an unwelcome visitor at our family rally. it was a group of family friends getting together to get excited about this campaign and where we're going and art jones decided to show up to the campaign rally. >> so what ensued? he challenged you to a debate? >> he came to the -- i was given a heads up that he might be coming to confront me at the rally that was in my backyard and he challenged me on some -- the idea that he tricked voters into voting for him in the primary. i asked him to leave my home. he challenged me to a debate on the holocaust. >> to debate whether or not the holocaust exists. >> yes, which is ridiculous.

>> so you're running as an independent, you worked for republicans in the past. why should people vote for you over dan lipinski and what's your rationale for mounting this long shot write-in campaign. >> so the reason why i'm running -- there are two reasons. because when voters in the third district go to the ballot box this november, they don't have a choice they deserve. their first choice is a nazi holocaust denying homophobic bigot white supremacist. that's the first choice. the other choice is dan lipinski. he's a nice man but he's a long time incumbent, 13 years in office, he doesn't have a good track record as far as his legislative accomplishments go and he's inadequately represented the district. the second reason why we're running is because it's just important to my wife and me that in today's day and age they're able to be a good example to our kids about what it means to stand up to hatred. >> that's something republicans in washington get criticism for. i cover capitol hill everyday. we're repeatedly asking republican members of congress to weigh in on the latest tweet

and there was some condemnation from leadership after the charlottesville rally. do you feel like you could have a home in the republican party of donald trump or not? >> i don't know. i think if we are able to win in november i think it would send a loud signal to the rest of the country -- the voters of my district would send a loud signal to the rest of the country that people are tired of this gridlock, tired of the partisanship because a lot of people don't see themselves reflecteder fektly in either party. there's a lot of gridlock, we're not getting a lot done and i think our election would speak to that. >> one question some voters might have for you if they're considering not voting for democratic dan lipinski, he took a primary challenge on the issue of abortion. do you support abortion rights? >> abortion is a tough issue for me. it's tough as a parent and a catholic. but at the end of the day i believe that right belongs to women and that decision does not belong with the government. i am encouraged by the fact that the number of abortions sought

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