hannity's face when rudy giuliani said the money was funneled from donald trump. those are two things i hope end up on my doorstep. we are out of time. my thanks. that does it for our hour. i'm nicole wallace. "mtp daily" starts right now. hello, chuck. >> you have a credit today. congratulations. >> i gave you four seconds. >> i'll see you later today. lifestyles of the rich and infamous. ♪ good evening and welcome to "mtp daily." i'm chuck todd in washington. we begin tonight with what appears to be another big blow for president trump in a week that's already dealt him a lot of big blows. another long time trump confidant is now working with federal prosecutors.

this time it's the trump organization's long time financial chief allen weisselberg who's been given immunity, we don't know how much in the michael cohen case. the president's father brought him into the organization. he knows about the president's business and finances in a way very few other people do. weisselberg arranged for the trump organization to reimburse cohen for the hush money for stormy daniels. he's the second to be granted immunity in two days. this follows news that david pecker the president's long time friend and ceo and publisher of "the national enquirer" also was granted immunity. as if two long time allies talking to investigators weren't enough for the president this

comes two days after michael cohen pled guilty to crimes president trump told him to commit. the week began with news that the president's white house counsel don mcgahn cooperated extensively in the special counsel's probe and spent as much as 30 hours talking to investigators. mcgahn is potentially an eyewitness@obstruction allegation. it increasingly seems like it's every person for themselves in trump's orb it. one by one, they seem to be showing him what loyalty looks like. sessions is pushing back against the president. at this point you have got think people in the white house and the president's orbit are wondering, who isn't working with investigators? joining me julia ansly, joshua

johnson. welcome all. let's start with you. explain to me what kind of immunity mr. weisselberg was likely granted. i assume it's something that's limited but when we hear that he was cooperating on the michael cohen aspect of things what does that mean beyond michael cohen's investigation. >> you can see the southern district is circling now. you just ran through the things we have seen this week. michael cohen pleading guilty to the campaign finance violation. now seeking immunity granted to these two new witnesses. immunity is never lightly handed out. what it means sufficient a witness you're interested enough to talk to that has invoked the fifth amendment, meaning they have some exposure and the prosecutors make the determination, "a," this person

has information and b, we are willing to give them a break to get it. it's a lengthy difficult process. prosecutors don't like to do it. you have to go to main in d.c. you have to go to a judge for approval. it's thoroughly vetted. >> is there any way weisselberg could have done this with the president's permission or even acknowledgement meaning, hey, it's just about michael cohen or is this something that likely rattled the president? >> weisselberg would not need the president's permission. this is him exercising his fifth amendment right. once get immunity, you don't have owe choice. you cannot invoke the fifth amendment anymore. your only choice there is testify or go jail on contempt. weisselberg would not need trump's blessing. maybe personally it would help him if he had it, but he

certainly does not need it. >> sure. what about the news of the immunity going forward? is this likely limited for just this case, or is it something that after it's granted the southern district can woman back and essentially say, hey, we have given you immunity on this stuff -- we need more immunity. >> there's two types of immunity. testimonial immunity -- cannot be used to charge you -- and use immunity, which essentially you're given a free pass. doj's policy is once someone's given either type of immunity, they're not going to be charged. can it be renewed? absolutely. if weisselberg goes down a certain road and says, i think the extent of the my immunity has been reached here, the southern district can renew or change the focus as necessary. >> let me bring the panel in here. julia, in a week of all this, weisselberg felt like another big shoe, but how big?

>> it's big especially when you put it in conjunction with david pecker. it actually touches michael cohen and the president. we were waiting for the manafort verdict. the things he was contradicted on don't touch the president himself. michael cohen, the trump organization, not only do they touch the at the, they touch his family. we know trump had a red line when it cops to his businesses. he began to attack the special counsel. last summer. now this is including all that. it's not mueller doing this. it's the southern district of new york. spun off with the mueller probe. the president might say he can fire mueller or rosenstein, but he can't fire the southern district of the new york, so it might have spun off into an area he can't touch. >> a frequent panelist here

wrote today this is the week the president's learning what it's like to be on the bad end of a reality show. what cohen and oka am rosa learned -- solicits the playing field in favor of the accuser. daniels' attorney, avenatti is learning both of these lessons. michael cohen fingering the president there totally shifted the conversation in a very reality tv show way. >> it did shift the conversation. i think it would have felt a little bit flimsier if there weren't other revelations of those cooperating beyond michael cohen. it is now beginning to feel more real. it remains to be seen how much it's going affect the president. there's the legal matter. there's the political matter. just because it turns out to be supported doesn't mean congress

will want to do anything about it. but this does feel like a real tonal shift, particularly the response the president had in the interview he gave to pox and friends. between paul manafort and michael cohen who began to snitch on him. if this begins to feel substantive, then the president begins to blow it off and say -- that again as to melt away. >> i think you see the president this week hap the narrative into something it's not. in the interview with fox and friend, he kept insisting the money didn't come out of campaign funds, so it's not a campaign finance violation. that's now how the law works. it's not clear if he doesn't know what the law is or if he's trying to twist it into something separate and fool people. >> we were talking about how this week alone when you see all

the people talking, you have had experience in mob cases -- when do the flood gates open? >> i've never put it that way, but that's a fabulous way to put it, contagious. the biggest mob cases you have to pull the thread. you never know how much is going unravel. you could unravel the whole sweater. it's a logical conclusion. once one person come in and say, i committed the crime can a, b,and c, then they have pressure on them. once it cascades, it breaks. >> witness tampering. the more rudy giuliani publicly talks about pardons, the more the president talks about how paul manafort is taking it like a man, at what point is that -- would you, if you were sitting in the southern district of the new york or if you were robert mueller and you were about to put paul manafort on trial again

and you have this, is that interference? how do you judge that? >> the kind of obstruction that we are seeing on a continual and systemic basis from the president and rudy giuliani is really way over the top. it's important that people understand -- >> us breaking the law -- could you file charges against the president or rudy giuliani? >> i think it's clear what they are intent is, because they're going toe good job laying cough for themselves. i think you're right, the president has been quite clearly floating the possibility of a pardon for paul manafort. when sarah sanders was asked, he said it's never come up. rudy giuliani said, we have been talking for weeks. >> sarah sanders clarified -- it's never come up in the white house. >> right. maybe they were on the lawn or something. but, you know, what i think he's trying to do -- i think if you could establish that the president was pardoning or

promising to pardon paul manafort in order to prevent him from cooperating, to remain a standup guy as the president suggested, you would have a strong justice case. if you had him on tape saying, i'm going to pardon paul manafort, that's going keep him quiet. but with his tweets about paul manafort, what i think the president is going to laying ground work for him to give a pardon and say, i'm not trying to obstruct justice. i just thought it was unjust. >> interesting point that they caught him on tape. there are no tapes of president. he just puts this stuff on twitter. had we found out any of it by secret recording it would be breaking news. >> yet, there are tapes of the president knowing about those payments that omarosa leaked yet he still said, i didn't know about at the time. >> michael cohen leaked.

>> i know. >> i know, we have a lot of tapes. my producers brought up the tape. right here. >> i need to open up a company for the transfer of all of that info regarding our friend david. i'm going to do that right away. i've spoken the allen weisselberg about how to set the whole thing up with funding. >> oh, and allen weisselberg now a more well known name today than when the recording first went out, but we had to explain who that was. >> now we know he's executive one. i guess we don't know whether weisselberg knew where that money was going. we could guess he did, that's why he was granted immunity. another thing about the southern district of the new york case, we don't necessarily know how far the southern district could take this past cohen. right knew it's about cohen, but they have the same question

there that robert mueller does here. can you subpoena a sitting president? >> i don't understand if it's done or not. layny davis seems to have indicated there's no other crimes they are pursuing now. is he cleared of the at&t business? >> he could hand this off to mueller. we are in the middle of it. >> let me bring in our former a.s.a. from the southern district. how should we be reading the cohen deal? because there was a whole other part of this investigation that seems to just have disappeared. we are not getting information that they dropped it. is it just sort of hanging over there in case they need it. >> the southern district -- there was a question of how far they were going to go. the southern district of the new york does not pull up until we are done. they'll follow it as far as it goes and whatever path, they

find it. they don't just decide to stop. admittedly, i'm a homer, but you can bank on that. one of the big mysteries of the week for me is michael cohen pleading not to a cooperation agreement. certainly he and laney davis want him to cooperate. why not? makes sense. could be for a number of reasons. the southern district wasn't ready. could be the p.r. blitz that michael cohen did violated instruction or turned them off. important to know he could still cooperate. you can cooperate at any point. after trial, even at sentencing. there's a federal rule, rule 35 that says you can bring them back, have them resentenced to less. it's not over. i find it surprising he pled to what we call a straight plea agreement. >> can we take a step back? this situation for a lot of

americans is really scary. like, we are coming into an increasingly high stakes game of constitutional chicken where we are putting the law against the presidency of the united states, and our discussions on our program, there are plenty of people who will comment like, when is this going end? when is this going to come to a head? is somebody finally going to do something? if you think about it in a larger context, north korea, the economy going, keeping the economy up, russia, and iran, the idea that the entire act of the united states government can come to a halt over whether or not you can prosecute a sitting president, a lot of americans are freaked out by this. >> the constitution provides us a road map, but i don't think the founders thought one of the branches of government was going to participate. >> this is why they designed it the way they did.

>> i'm going to pause it. i'm going force the panel to stick around. thank you. up next, we are going talk to someone who knows all about being in and out of the president's orbit. we want to update you on the health of the senator mccain. as of today, the family said he'll no longer continue medical treatment. he's been fighting an aggressive fom of brain cancer since about this time last year. it's been amazing in how far he's come in fighting this disease. his wife sent out a tweet late this morning saying i love my husband with all of his heart. god bless everyone has cared for my husband on this journey. mitch mcconnell tweeted as well saying, the entire mccain family are in our prayers. the entire staff of "mtp daily." we'll be right back. this wi-fi is fast.

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'70s. since it was even based in brooklyn, i believe. i think allen even knew fred trump, donald trump's father. every single expense or invoice would either go through -- for me, let's say, i would bring it to donald trump to sign and then bring it to allen. anything in terms of budgeting i had to deal with, allen was a part of. but what i would also say is everything i ever saw -- i was asked about this early on in my voluntary -- allen's name was never mentioned in my grand jury testimony. everything i saw was legal and on the up and up. in fact, the president would frequently, when they were doing a business transaction or something, would comment to his attorneys to make sure he wasn't going to have to deal with any fines or anything like that. with that said, this was very surprising when i heard about the subpoena a couple of weeks ago. i think the only reason, chuck,

we have the subpoena is because of laney davis releasing the tape. >> i think you're right on this. when you heard he was granted immunity, what was your reaction? >> well, my reaction so that is having been through this process, is that i don't know specifically if it's immunity in terms of whatever you did -- the same way they said david pecker had immunity, let's say. we just want to get all the information possible so we can acertain whether or not this was a campaign finance violation. even though michael pled guilty to it you know campaigns better than me. this is one of the first times we have seen something like this in a court of law when somebody has pled guilty. the closest was edwards and he was found not guilty after a jury. that's what i think they are trying do and that's why i would be surprised if the southern district was interested in the trump organization businesses because i am already sure that

bob mueller and his team have gone through a lot of documents. we know trump has been subpoenaed. chuck, one of the early questions i had when i walked into my voluntary was who did rock 'n' roller stone work for and one of the next questions was what do you know about the trump organization business? >> interesting. is it fair to say that if anybody understands the lap rint of the trump organization better than president trump it's allen weisselberg? >> certain will i the financial. allen on the 26th floor, he had his own feifdom. there was a large accounting office there. they all reported to him. if there were certain metrics and parameters i had to report to mr. trump, i could get a frequent call from him on something like, how many twitter

followers i gained in the last week. i'm sure allen gave frequent repor reports to mr. trump about the trump organization. >> how do you think he felt about allen weisselberg getting immunity in he described someone as a rat. is he going call weisselberg a rat? >> i think he blames this on michael rather than allen. allen was dragged into this. >> you think he might forgive allen here. >> i don't think allen is in trouble and i don't think for instance david pecker -- gabriel sherman made a comment that he flipped. i think with pecker as well -- when you get this subpoena, you have to come in there and tell them everything they want, so i think that in terms of that, i think ultimate will i the lumt -- if he's blaming anyone it's going to be mike and laney

davis. i think the president understands that he can't -- obviously this is in the southern district, but he can't do anything to stymy the special counsel's investigation, because as i said to you a couple of weeks ago, that would be like watergate. >> david pecker. how often did you feel you knew the trump organization in some way, whether it's michael, you, roger, then candidate or just private citizen donald trump? how often was david pecker or a.m.i. intersection? how often did you see him? >> well, luckily for me i never dealt directly with pecker or anybody at a.m.i. as you know, having dealt with the campaign and trump over the years there are pockets and chips you hold of who you deal with. >> people guard those. no, no, no, no he's my contact.

>> exactly right. twhfs michael. so i was quite surprised when "national enquirer" had a cover against michael in april. >> you thought that was michael's account. >> michael was close to pecker and it was known within the organization that, you know, michael deals with" national enquirer" the same way i deal with mark levin. >> it's interesting. you're not -- you don't -- has david pecker turned on the president or not? you don't seem to think so. >> it's funny, when they talk about the safe, there are a lot of politicians on both side of the aisle and a lot of celebrities worried about what's in the safe. i don't think necessarily -- once again, he wanted to context of the cairn mcdougall interview. if i had to guess.

there was nothing -- he wasn't -- there was nothing ilselse i would say. they went after every person that was a threat to trump, from carson to rubio, to then ted cruz. >> it's hard not to see that pattern there. i am curious about this one last aspect of sort of where this is headed, which is, is the president -- i think it was tim o'brien that wrote this -- the price of one-way loyalty. the greatest criticism i have heard over the years from people that have worked with president trump is loyalty matters but it's a one-way street. is that a fair description? >> i think in some cases it. is that's why i have said while i don't agree with what michael has done, trying to get the president impeached, i

sympathize with the way michael feels not getting a job at the white house. i don't know why they couldn't have given him something in the eob. that would have worked out better than now. there have been a lot of people through there, but with that said, i will tell you that in this coming surrounding cloud of impeachment -- that's what it is now. it's not the russian investigation anymore. that brings people like me back into the orbit of being a supporter of is, because i don't think he should be impeached for an investigation that started because he fired james comey. >> appreciate you coming on, sharing your insights on this. up next, i'm obsessed with what inquiring minds really want to know -- that safe, right? later how many battle lines are being drawn between the president and his attorney

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trump. big stories deseven big headlines. you know who else got one? david pecker, publicer of the national enquirer. he was granted immunity for providing details on the trump-cohen. guess who's not covering the story? "the national enquirer." meghan markle. where's david pecker? come on. these are at things tabloid dreams are made of -- david pecker's safe of secrets. we have taken the liberty of the designing the cover for you, mr. pecker. no one asked us. we took the liberty any way. the other tabloids are having a field day. here's the new york post mocking it -- what's in the safe? a space alien elvis haunts my

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welcome back. president trump furtherer as escalated his fight with the attorney general jeff sessions. jeff sessions saying while i am attorney general, the actions of the justice department will not be imappropriatorly influenced political considerations. jeff, this is great. look into the corruption on the ore side. deleted e-mails comey lies and leaks, mueller ohr, dot, dot, dot. on capitol hill, senator lindsey graham signalled he'd be willing to find a relacement for

sessions but others warned the president, don't go there. >> the attorney general's job is not to be a political hack. his job is to defend the political constitution and poll the rule of law. that's what jeff sessions is doing. the idea that jeff sessions might be fired because he's not a political hack is a very, very bad idea. it's a bad idea for the constitution. it's a bad idea for public trust, the department of the justice and a bad idea for the president of the united states. >> i know some people are like, ben sasse speaks more than he tweets? but, yes, in that oneer he verbalized it. joshua thompson i said this so somebody recently. i said, you never know who's going to become a major player or a hero of the story if the story goes a certain way. but i've asked some liberal friends of mine, how do you feel about jeff sessions these days? it's amazing the answers you

get. >> the president sent out another tweet, referenced reality winner. called it small potatoes and call said, so unfair, jeff. double standard. >> here's the thing, julia. if there were -- let's be realistic here. jeff sessions if he could find legal grounds do that against hillary clinton he would have done it. there's no legal case or they would have brought it by now. >> they left it. the attorney general is looking into fisa applications. jeff sessions refused. the president is asking him to weaponize that. he's getting a backbone, the same rod rosenstein got months ago. he got a standing ovation. that's not what we would expect

by the man who signed off to fire comey. >> nobody accused jeff sessions of not having integrity. the guy that has always been a boy scout. you may not agree with his interpretations of cultural issues but nobody says this was a rotten egg. >> precisely. it was surprising for some people he sidled up with trump is early in the campaign. >> that was actually -- on a morality front i never would have put trump and sessions together. it was immigration. >> i don't think he ever predicted he was going become attorney general at the end of all this. let's be honest. i don't think this is smart politics the president is playing here. he's making jeff sessions the hero of the left. he's inspiring members of his own party to come forward and say this could be a red line, although i do think lindsey graham coming out is important. i would have thought firing jeff sessions is a red line. >> that's the question.

i have to tell you -- i don't know. >> firing rosen stein or mueller -- >> firing sessions -- >> then rosenstein loses that job. the only reason he has that is because sessions is recused. >> you mean the future acting attorney general rod rosenstein? sorry. >> i'm starting to wonder about the jeopardy jeff sessions is actually in. the republican led congress has a much higher priority, which is brett kavanaugh. that's the top of the list. granted, he can wait, but the idea that grassley floated -- we can squeeze in time in september -- >> grassley has his own issues. >> that's another matter. >> he was twisted. just so you know. >> we know to go after sessions would be political cataclysm. if he takes it now it wiuntil t heat dies down, he may make it.

>> explain to me how the confirmation of a new attorney general is going go well. >> the first question he would be asked is, are you going shut down the mueller probe on the president? the senate senate going confirm a lackey to be attorney general. >> i don't think they are. there are probably a dozen senate republicans that would draw that line. >> but does trump realize it? think about the fact that he fired comey. his life would be a lot easier if he had kept comey. we wouldn't have mueller does he realize the political damage? ? and the fact that the next attorney general would not be easier. >> he did start to telegraph he did not feel much loyalty to jeff sessions. he telegraphed, i didn't they he would do that. he got to job because he was loyal on the campaign. never said anything at all about his legal --

>> i'm tired of hearing, i didn't know about the an are accusal. did you listen to the confirmation hearings? jeff sessions didn't hide this. and if the president had a problem with it, he had a chance to pull the nomination before he was confirmed. >> think about the fact that he keeps bringing loyalty up. he probably didn't bring that up. we know loyalty matters so, so highly. he may be more scarred by that than anything else. >> he me ask you -- john kelly was out the door every month for the last year, now he's going to be there until 2020. why do i think next year we are going to go, oh, looks like jeff sessions is here. >> i called people -- i think i did last year -- >> didn't he offer a resignat n resignation? >> we did. everyone who knows sessions told

me, wait it out. we are in the same position now. the tweets now are not as nasty as a year ago if you look at it. >> what does jeff sessions have? >> nothing. this is his last move. >> all right, pam, stick around. another associate, congressman hunter blames his campaign finance issues on his wife. you won't believe how he's doing this. ♪ [ screams ] ♪ [ laughs ] ♪ whoa, whoa, whoa. your one item would be the name your price tool? it helps people save on car insurance. why wouldn't it save me? why? what would you bring? a boat. huh. so you have, your headphones, chair, new laptop, 24/7 tech support. yep, thanks guys. i think he might need some support. yes. start them off right,

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we are going to fight through it and win. we are strong. going beyond what the doj have been doing. let's help them expose themselves for who they are, a politically motivated group of folks. went on fox and found somebody else to blame. >> are you saying that it's more her fault than your fault? >> well, i'm saying when i went to iraq in 2003 the first time, i gave her power of attorney and she handled my finances throughout my entire military career, that continued on when i got into congress. i'm gone five days a week, i'm home for two. she was also the campaign manager. so whatever she did, that will be looked at, too, i'm sure, but i didn't do it. >> my apologies there, the she, mrs. hunter, duncan hunter's wife. julia -- >> affection. >> it was funny, the description, when they entered

their not guilty pleas, the color we got, mr. and mrs. hunter came in separated by three attorneys, we all wondered, they have separate, something may be up. >> this became the defense. it's similar to what we saw in the bob mcdonald case in virginia. >> you want to blame the wife. >> it's this idea of separating yourself from your spouse. the attorneys very quickly skid onto that message from the beginning. but it's a hard one to sell because, as you've pointed out, that is what marriage is when you've combined bank accounts and you have something like power of attorney it's hard to turn around and blame. we've seen other times, like paul manafort who did stay with his wife, they jointly signed a lot of things. she has been left out of all this. it's a harder and harder sell especially when there are things which a benefitted him, they weren't just to benefit her. >> it didn't strike me as a sympathetic figure running for reelection for congress, shane. >> no. >> look, the district there in san diego, it is a little more conservative than most southern

california districts. but it's also -- it's also a very integrity filled -- >> it's a mail temilitary presence, he did some things, when i was off in iraq. he'd led with his military service, military integrity issues were always stories he liked to flag to reporters. among the charges in this indictment is that he was passing off personal purchases and hiding them as contributions to veterans organizations. >> and to use this as a defense is going to turn off a lot of veterans. they don't like that, joshua. >> they don't like that. i do -- you know, the political cynic in me kind of wonders what the larger effect of what this is going to be. i totally get, the district he's in, 29 palms further east, that's not going to play well there. in the larger scheme of things, i wonder whether or not duncan hunter just kind of comes off as

this sleazy politician who finally got caught or if it's something that speaks larger to the nature of the party right now, he was one of the early endorsers of president trump as was representative collins, and now both of them are in trouble. does it send a larger message? is it one of those stories that gets to be part of the political noise? >> in fairness, a lot of people want to attach it to trump, but there has been a long standing -- there's usually somewhere -- a handful of congressmen who every cycle think their campaign account is their personal spot. jesse jackson jr. went to serve time for essentially the same thing. they think the congressional money is their money. that's what the hunters thought. they treated it as their money. this is where the campaign finance laws, i think, are just -- this is the part where, what is the balance? i know we sit here, and we struggle to do it, but you have to make the penalties tough enough so they don't do these things. >> right, and they get briefed. you get an fx briefing as soon as you're elected but you're also told, when you were running a campaign, you were told about

these laws. they can't plead ignorance. i also think we can't overlook that first argument, that first defense he made about the fbi being against him. if every republican continues to plead that you get into the territory that chris wray worries about which is when an fbi person or someone from the justice department stands in front of a jury, they're not believed anymore, they're seen as political. >> i think a lot of americans are going to start doing this. you heard this rhetoric, duncan hunter used it. eric grietens tried it in missouri. i think he used deep state, as if the deep state was going after missouri republican politics. >> you're absolutely right. he also said the democrats are run by law enforcement. >> a republican who said i run this place. >> that's why the manafort verdict this week also matters. it's not a witch hunt, not the deep state. these are facts, and 12 people can get in a room and decide, yes, these are facts.

>> who said she was hoping paul manafort was innocent. anyway, you guys are great. happy friday, julia, joshua, shane. up ahead, surf's up, democrats. liberty mutual accident forgiveness means

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