and rick. rick's new book is awesome. whatever you're doing, stop, download or get in a car and go buy it. it's called "everything trump touches dies." that does it for our hour. "mtp daily" starts right now with katy tur in for chuck todd. >> i know it's been a hard day for you, but the show has been really heartfelt. if it's monday, as senator mccain said, what you fight for is the real test. good evening, i'm katy tur in new york in for chuck todd. welcome to "mtp daily." we begin tonight's show with a little straight talk, as the nation mourns the loss of senator john mccain. the bipartisan truth-seeking country first principled brand of republican politics that john mccain embodied is gone. replaced by a populist brand of

reality tv show truth isn't truth, base-pounding politics that is pretty much the opposite of everything john mccain stood for. for those republicans seeking to live up to mccain's legacy, they do so at their own electoral peril, under a president who repeatedly refused to say anything about a war hero, despite being asked today again and again and again. >> mr. president, any thoughts on john mccain? mr. president, any thoughts on john mccain, sir? >> thanks, everybody. let's go this way. >> mr. president, any thoughts on the legacy of john mccain? mr. president, do you have any thoughts on john mccain? do you have any thoughts at all about john mccain? do you believe john mccain was a hero, sir? >> let's go, keep moving. >> nothing at all about john

mccain? any reaction to a proclamation about john mccain? >> said nothing. over the weekend the president reportedly nixed issuing a statement about mccain's life and service opting instead for a tweet about his sympathies for mccain's family. the instagram version, by the way, had trump's picture on it. finally moments ago, the white house did put out a statement from the president saying he respects mccain's service. he'll fly the white house flag at half mast, half staff, excuse me, and he's asked vice president pence to speak at a ceremony this friday. folks, we're left now to navigate a political environment of blindingly intense partisanship without one of the country's most revered statesman. a statesman who made it his lifelong mission to put country before party. in his newly released farewell

message to the nation, mccain seems to warn us against this president. the president has been implicated a campaign felony. his former lawyer is an admitted felon. his former campaign chief is a convicted felon. and those revelations seemingly change nobody's opinion of the commander in chief. his job approval right now according to our new nbc news/"wall street journal" poll taken after those bombshells is 44% approve, 52% disapprove. here's where those numbers were before the president of the united states was implicated in a campaign felony. you can see they haven't budged. there will certainly be more bombshells to come and politicians of all stripes will have some daunting choices to make about this presidency and what is best for our country. and while that bipartisan truth-seeking country first, principled brand of republican politics that john mccain embodied is gone, it does not

have to die with him. let's bring in tonight's panel. nick confessore is an msnbc political analyst and reporter with "the new york times." susan del percio is a republican analyst and jonathan alter is a "daily beast" columnist. there was also a farewell statement, guys, from mccain that was read by a long-time aide. it says we weaken our greatness when we confuse our patriotism with tribal rivalries that have sown resentment and hatred and violence in all the corners of the globe. we weaken it when we hide behind walls rather than tear them down, when we doubt the power of our ideals rather than trust them to be the great force for change they have always been. what does it say that mccain's dying message was a warning against trumpism? >> look, i think what we're seeing today is the passing not just of a man but perhaps of an

entire way of looking at politics and public service and reconciliation and compromise. john mccain was a man that believed in institutions in america, in this country and in service. and what we see now is a politics around this current president, people around him, a politics that's kind of a hustle. and the idea of sacrifice out the window. i'm sad to say those words, but i think that the politics we see today and the party we see today on the right is the party of donald trump and not john mccain. and that is probably a tragedy. >> it's important not to guild the lily here as david ignatius put it. there were decisions that he made that were extraordinarily controversial. there were people that say his vote to take america to war in iraq will be a damaging -- will have a long-lasting damaging effect and forever tarnish a portion of his legacy. but that being said, john mccain was somebody who would tell you

himself that he's not a perfect person. without him, who is left to uphold that country before party ideal, that maverick ideal that he's now -- that is now lost in the senate? >> right now nobody in the republican party. but i'm not nearly as pessimistic as nick, because i think there's a new generation coming along, many of them are democrats, many of them are veterans, and there will be a reaction, a very strong reaction to donald trump if not this fall then in 2020 or later. but american history works in cycles. the idea that service, sacrifice, honor are part of the past and cannot be recovered i reject. i actually think that you'll see a lot of candidates even this fall running as mccain democrats or mccain independents who are on the democratic party line.

and you will see he now, you know, as was said in a more grandiose way and maybe more legitimate way about abraham lincoln, he now belongs to the ages. he will now rise above all of these various squabbles, all of the mistakes he made, the keating five, the terrible things that he would sometimes say of a mild by comparison to trump about other people, that all now dissipates and we will see the core of an enormously decent and great american. he will live on in american politics. >> there's perhaps no greater contrast to donald trump than john mccain. >> that's for sure. i mean if you look at it this way, john mccain looked at it that he was elected to serve, whereas donald trump looks at it that he won and the presidency owes him something. he's supposed to get something out of it. that's really like the core difference. john mccain had core values over 60 years that he was willing to give to his country.

donald trump can change his mind tomorrow from what he says or even later today, as he did with the flag being only -- >> who forced him to do that? >> i think the american legion stepped out. there were enough veterans groups that were also stepping out and i think he just couldn't handle the story. because it was also on fox. we know that's what he watches. i think he was getting hammered on it. >> it's going to really -- it's going to be a real problem for him. he's not going to be able to attack nfl players with any credibility at all for disrespecting the flag after that. and i really think it's -- i mean he'll try, but it gets less and less credible all the time. this was a new standard in pettiness. >> but who are the voters that are moved by that? because when you look at what's happened in the last week and all of the ways that donald trump's presidency was put in danger or his credibility or his inner circle was shown to be

corrupt, i mean he had his lawyer admit that he was a felon. he had his campaign chairman become a convicted felon. last week was a tidal wave of bad news for this presidency, and this president and his approval ratings stayed the same. so i wonder, if that's not going to move the needle, is this john mccain going to move the needle? and forgive me for being skeptical because i was under the impression, as was most people, that when donald trump came out and said he was not a war hero, he likes the guys that don't get caught back in 2015, that people would care. and when i went out and i talked to republican voters, they didn't care at all. >> the republicans don't care. but 43% is both a very high number when you realize that that many people are so deluded as to believe that this guy is a good president, but it's also a pretty low number. a lot of independents have left donald trump. they voted for him in 2016.

they're not going to vote for him again. they have much more in common with john mccain. so you have to draw a distinction between hard-corrines who as trump said he could shoot somebody on fifth avenue and they would still support him and a much really larger group of people who go in different directions, depending on the election. >> 88% of republicans still support him. 88%. i'm sorry, i just -- i start to wonder when we have these conversations and we say, well, this is going to be the breaking point. i wonder if there is a breaking point. i wonder if enough people in this country find the actions and the behavior repulsive enough to want to change what's going on. this is a man who called john mccain who was a prisoner of war, who refused to be released early -- >> and he was cheered for it. >> he didn't want to leave his fellow prisoners behind. donald trump, who claimed bone spurs in his feet to not go to vietnam couldn't tell you which

foot had the bone spurs which asked which foot it was. >> he was cheered for that comment. he was cheered. that's why i'm pessimistic, katy. >> i'm just wondering why people are optimistic things are going to change. >> i'm wondering the same thing. as i was saying, look, he stood for a certain set of values that are disappearing from politics. the idea that you can appreciate or like somebody whose policy views you oppose, that you can get something wrong and come back and do something right, that you can be mistaken and then be right again, that you can mostly vote with your party but also vote for your conscience. those things are disappearing. >> but nick, what if beto o'rourke is elected senator from texas. joe mccarthy said some pretty awful things. a tremendous number of americans followed him in the 1950s. people stuck with nixon until very close to the bitter end, including most of the republican party. they stuck with him through all kinds of revelations about his being a crook. so we do have an ability to

regenerate in this country. >> i take your point, but aren't we living in a slightly different time with twitter and donald trump saying that everybody saying bad about donald trump is an anti-trumper and not to be listened to and donald trump has at his disposal, he has fox news to parrot everything he says and to lift him up. i mean nixon didn't have that. >> but to answer your question -- >> mccarthy didn't have that. >> to answer your question before, you went to his behavior, which has been disgusting. it's that of a spoiled brat. it's when things like his tariff war with china start hitting those people -- >> what about his moral character? >> he has no moral character. to me that's already a decided issue. he has no core values, he has no moral character, he has nothing when we talk about the positive traits of john mccain. he's none of those, and i think that's probably what irritates

him the most. but it will only be when people who voted for donald trump realize that he -- his actions are hurting. now, not his behavior in the twitter verse but his actions as president, tariff wars or the tax cuts which are going to turn into real increases on health care when they see their health care costs go up in october, if these things have an effect on them, those trump triers, i think jonathan was talking about, will start to come back into the middle an they will hold donald trump accountable, first in the midterm elections and then after. and then to jonathan's point about the next generation of leaders, i agree partially. i don't think it's just going to be people who served our country and the military just democrats. i think they'll be democrats and republicans. i think they're men and women who vested in our country, who have fought for it, who have those core belief who say will

take it forward. when you are defending your country, it doesn't matter if you're democrat, republican or independent. >> what do you think if you're someone who fought for this country, if you're a veteran or in the military, how do you justify support for donald trump when he says that any of you who get caught on the battlefield or get shot on the battlefield who don't win on the battlefield in donald trump's limited version of what winning is you're not a hero? >> i was talking to a retired colonel about this and he said the senior military officers, a lot of them signed these letters. but the rank and file, they're culturally conservative so it's taking them longer. but at a certain point the message does begin to go down. >> donald trump was speaking at a veterans group not too long ago where members of the audience came to members of the press and basically said we don't feel this way. >> katy, part of the problem here and i've spoken to lots of

veterans about this. both parties are thoroughly discredited on their handling of veterans and their handling of matters of war and peace. we have been at war in afghanistan for long enough that people born after 2001 will soon be able to enlist. i think veterans don't feel that great about either party. they were open to trump's brand of politics when he came in and some of them are still open to it. >> just in terms of where it goes, i remember on the straight talk express one day, i was on that bus, that legendary bus in 2000 and mccain had so many great lines. but one of them was sometimes it's darkest just before it's pitch black. in other words, it can go -- it can go either way. and really the responsibility now is not on the democratic party to hold -- to check him, it's on every person out there who doesn't like donald trump and whether or not they will get off their duffs and go out and walk the blocks in the precincts this fall and check him. and if they do it, we're going

to be okay. if they don't, we're going to be in a lot of trouble. >> i want to put policy aside and just say there should be a check on just the moral character and the behavior. you honor an american hero because you do, because that's the way we do things in this country because he deserves it and has done more for this country that most people ever will do. you put your petty fights aside, whatever animus you have, and you do what you're supposed to do to respect an american hero. a statesman. guys, we'll leave it here right now, nick, jonathan, susan, you're coming back. could the absence of the maverick become a tipping point in these divided times? we'll talk with one of mccain's senate colleagues, next.

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welcome back. as we've said, senator mccain's death will have awe p profound effect on the senate but it's not just that the senate is losing a statesman, it's also losing one of the few republicans willing to stand up to president trump, especially when it comes to issues of national security. without mccain, oklahoma senator james inhoffe is the top republican on the armed services committee and he was a lot more friendly to president trump than mccain was. moments ago the senator said mccain is partially to blame for the white house flag controversy. i'm joined now by rhode island senator jack reed, the ranking democrat on the senate armed services committee that mccain chaired. senator, first off to this news

from senator inhoffe, i think he was speaking to cnn when he said that senator mccain was responsible for the white house not keeping the flag at half staff today because he was so vocally outspoken against this president. >> well, i believe the president should have maintained the flag at half staff. it's honoring an individual who gave his life for the country and i think senator inhoffe understands and respects the sacrifice senator mccain made for his country, so i think the president ultimately made the right decision. i think engaging in sort of a dissection of that decision at this point doesn't really help -- >> what about senator inhoffe saying that mccain was at fault for it? >> i think that that is not accurate, simply because senator mccain's actions should not have prompted a response in any way,

shape or form from the president. it's something that appeared to be petty rather than presidential and frankly i think it appeared to the president to be inappropriate. he reversed his decision. he issued a proclamation. the flag will be at half staff appropriately until senator mccain is buried at annapolis and that's the right thing to do. >> senator corker is also retiring and leaving an opening on the foreign relations committee as well. with corker gone next year and with mccain now gone, are you concerned about the void in republican leadership in these very important committees with republicans who are willing to push back on the president, especially when it comes to issues of national security? >> well, we are losing several powerful voices. the most powerful obviously is john mccain, but bob corker has been a very thoughtful and very

statesmanlike colleague in the senate. there has to be individuals that step up and it has to be all of us, not just republicans but also democrats stepping up, trying to do it as john mccain did it so often on a bipartisan basis, issue by issue. ultimately i hope what convinces my colleagues to take the appropriate action is that what we do ultimately affects the lives of hundreds of thousands of young americans in uniform, and they deserve our not -- anything less i should say than our commitment to the country and our commitment to the constitution. i hope that inspires my colleagues including myself to step up more. >> if there was a democratic president and you were the leader of the armed services committee, it would be important to be skeptical of the commander in chief? why would you think it would be important to be skeptical if you would agree? >> well, i think it's very important to be skeptical because, first of all, we have

an independent role in the congress. we have independent powers and we have to ensure the decisions are made regardless of whether it's a fellow democrat or republican, are the best in terms of the country and for the future of the nature. that requires not blind loyalty, it requires very observant and at some times critical, but critical in a way that's not simply partisan and disruptive, but constructive, and that's what i hope we can do. >> with john mccain gone, who's going to fill that void? who will be the next john mccain? >> i think what you're going to see is younger members of the senate and other colleagues stepping up. i think what you'll see also will be on an issue by issue basis, there will be an issue that really engages someone. they'll step forward and they'll take the lead. they'll be followed by we hope a bipartisan group of senators. i don't think that anyone right

now who's been being prepared for, groomed for taking the place of john mccain. first of all, it would be virtually impossible to take his place individually. i think what you're going to see is and what i hope you see is all of us stepping up significantly to fill the gap that he's left. >> in this highly partisan climate that we're living in where if you go against the president you're likely to lose your seat, won't be able to win a primary, that's why corker is not running for re-election, why flake isn't running for re-election, john mccain not popular in his home state of arizona by a majority of republicans any longer because of what he said about the president. in this partisan climate, is it possible for lawmakers to defy their leader? >> well, what will make it possible is the american people. if it's very clear in these elections in november that they want a change in behavior, a

change in tone, a change in outlook, then you'll see that happen. that is the governing frankly and thankfully the governing factor in the united states. it's the will of citizens. that's why it's important for all of our american citizens to get involved, get active and to vote, because they have to sending the message. if the message is if you're a republican just follow the president blindly or if it was a democratic president, the same message. it has to be a message of responsibility and respect for the constitution. >> let me switch gears and ask you about president trump and the ongoing legal drama that seems to be closing in on him. what happened last week with his long-time fixer, his former personal lawyer saying that he did commit a crime, admitting to being a felon and implicated the president and it was a pretty big deal. one of your democratic lawmaker

colleagues in the house, jerry nadler, was on "meet the press" over the weekend. just listen to what he said. >> well, i think the mueller investigation has to continue first and foremost and the committee has to defend the mueller investigation against the president and the republicans in congress attempts to sabotage it, discredit it and discredit the fbi and the department of justice. congress is supposed to be a check and balance on the executive, and we ought to be holding investigations. >> representative nadler says we ought to be holding, as in democrats ought to be holding investigations. do you believe democrats are doing enough? are you holding enough investigations or trying to hold enough investigations considering all of the very serious legal questions that surround the president and the fact that his former lawyer has implicated him in a crime? >> well, the reality is that the investigatory processes of the

senate and the house are controlled by the republican majority. they set the agenda, they set the hearings. they certainly spent a great deal of time looking into the behavior and activities of secretary of state clinton. they have not spent the same amount of time with perhaps the exception of the senate intelligence committee. senator burr and senator warner on a bipartisan basis have looked and continue to look at some of these issues involving russian reaction and interaction in our campaign. but i believe jerry is right, we have to be much more aggressive but i don't think that will happen as long as the republicans are controlling the procedural mechanisms of the house and senate. >> senator jack reed, senator, thank you very much. >> thank you. ahead, will mueller act? as midterms get closer and closer, could new indictments be right around the corner? t aroun? you're headed down the highway when the guy in front slams on his brakes out of nowhere. you do, too, but not in time.

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it has a bad connotation because the united states was hurt very badly by nafta for many years. >> congress must still approve the deal and the administration hasn't discussed many details of the agreement. we can tell you, though, that it appears to benefit the u.s. auto and agriculture industries. but perhaps as important as what's in the deal is who's out of it. at least for now. canada. >> we will see whether or not we decide to put up canada or just do a separate deal with canada if they want to make the deal. the simplest deal is more or less already made. >> a spokesman for canada's foreign minister says discussions are ongoing but the omission of our neighbor to the north is not going over well with some republicans on capitol hill. senate finance committee chairman orrin hatch said in a statement that any final agreement should include canada. we'll be right back with "mtp daily" straight ahead. k with "m daily" straight ahead.

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welcome back. if last week taught us anything, it's that a whole year's worth of news can come in a single day, or even a single hour. and while we probably won't have another day like last tuesday any time soon, when paul manafort was convicted of tax and bank fraud at nearly the same time as michael cohen was pleading guilty to fraud and campaign violations, this could be another headline-making week for robert mueller's investigation. after all, the midterms are a little more than two months away, and the justice department urges its prosecutors to avoid making moves that could be perceived as political close to election day. look, do we expect mueller to wrap up his investigation in the next few weeks? no. but can we see new indictments, new guilty pleas, new subpoenas? that's a distinct possibility. as for what mueller's next move may be, as "the new york times" puts it, the answer might lie in

a by-the-book past. with me now is the "new york times" reporter who wrote that story. matt, i realize that you don't entirely agree with this idea that mueller might have a blockbuster week this week because he's got to go silent until the midterms, but if you can for me explain the general thinking for why mueller might lay low for the next two months. >> well, i mean the general thinking is that rudy giuliani has floated september 1st as some sort of deadline. the truth is that the guidelines that are put forward by pretty much every attorney general say don't bring election-related crimes, don't bring election-related charges close to an election unless there's a compelling need to do so because what you want to do is you want to avoid the appearance that you're trying to steer the outcome of an investigation -- i mean the outcome of an election,

sorry. and that is absolutely a guiding principle. i'm not totally sure that it would come into play here in the midterms. it's not usually construed in such a broadway that you can't bring any kind of political case close to election day. it would be construed more narrowly if a specific candidate was running. but even in the case against ted stephens, they brought that in the final days of a campaign, they indicted him. so i just don't -- i don't see any indication that bob mueller, who is famously patient and does not like meandering investigations, i don't see any indication that he'll sit on his hands and say let's all regroup after november. >> so could we see indictments on october 25th? on november 3rd? >> i think that if bob mueller has an indictment teed up, for

instance, let's talk about roger stone. roger stone, the long-time trump advisor, is clearly under investigation. mueller's team has a grand jury impanelled that is hearing testimony from witnesses related to roger stone's activities. if the mueller team wanted to move forward with an indictment against roger stone in october, hypothetically, i'm not totally sure how that would trigger any kind of, you know, prohibition against making a move because it would somehow influence the outcome of the midterms. and again, that's also not a decision that mueller would necessarily get to make. he'd have to consult with career prosecutors at doj and have to consult with rod rosenstein. so i think it's absolutely possible that mueller makes additional moves before election day. and i think what you can be certain of, what i know from bob mueller and from covering him is

that they are going to press forward and they are not going to set any kind of arbitrary deadline. >> rudy giuliani is trying to set an arbitrary deadline, or at least it seems like an arbitrary deadline, that september 1st deadline, as you mentioned a moment ago. he's also saying this and this was a tweet from saturday. just a few days before 60 day run-up to 2018 elections. if mueller wants to show he's not partisan, then issue a report on collusion and obstruction. they will show president trump did nothing wrong. then we will have to admit you were fair. and we will. first of all, that argument makes absolutely no sense. it's a heads i win, tails you lose argument. he's only going to decide if mueller is fair if mueller kp n exonerates the president. >> right. i think what you're seeing here is giuliani is laying bare the strategy. he's saying we've put out this 60-day deadline. we try to make it sound like it is some sort of hard and fast

rule. if mueller does something after september 1st, then we can say mueller is breaking with precedent, which he wouldn't be, and mueller is not playing by the rules and mueller is political. so them putting the trump team establishing september 1st as this kind of line in the sand, it's really just a public relations move because anything that he makes -- any move mueller makes after that they can point back to the line and he can say he crossed the line. roger stone is out there and he's talking about the investigation and who knows what his goal is here. maybe it's to potentially get some of the heat off himself, but he's claiming that he's got excellent sources that the special counsel is going to charge don junior in a crime. do you have any indication that don junior might be in legal trouble imminently? >> that's obviously not anything

we've reported. roger stone, i guess, has good sources in the fbi it seems. but i would say that we know that donald trump jr., his conduct is under scrutiny by the fbi and by the special counsel's office. we know that members of congress have raised questions about whether he was truthful in his testimony before congress, and if he wasn't, that would implicate a federal crime. and so certainly the other indication we have is that bob mueller has not interviewed, as far as we know, donald trump jr. usually you wait for the end to interview your targets or your most important subjects. so we have obviously signs that the special counsel is looking at donald trump jr.'s activities. we have no indication that he's a target or defendant and certainly i don't have any information that supports what

roger stone is saying about the fact that he's going to be indicted. but i will eagerly wait to see what comes of roger stone's reporting. >> matt apuzzo all the way from brussels, get some sleep, my friend. ahead, new reporting that paul manafort wanted to make a deal with mueller. stay with us. mom: okay we need to get all your school supplies today... school... grade... done. done.

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welcome back. time now for "the lid." the panel is back, nick, susan and jonathan. guys, "the wall street journal" has a bit of breaking news. they say trump campaign chairman paul manafort before he was convicted last week tried to resolve a second set of charges, but they didn't reach a deal and the two sides are now moving closer to a second trial next month according to people familiar with the matter so he tried to cut a deal with prosecutors but it didn't work out. if this is true, i mean this is a big win for mueller's team in pressuring manafort and putting the screws to him, i guess, to get him to cooperate with their investigation. >> i always felt that manafort was more afraid of the russians than mueller, frankly, and he was banking on a pardon and that was his strategy all along. he owes millions of dollars to russian oligarchs. if he went in there and cut any

type of deal, i think they would be very concerned about that, so his best bet was to go through the trials and then hope for a pardon from the president. >> yeah, but why would that change things now? why would he be trying to make now? >> he can't be prosecuted under state law for lobbying violations. those are federal violations, whereas there was an effort to pull in state charges on money laundering and tax evasion. in a sense, if he can clear the lobbying violations with a plea deal he sets himself up to be pardoned on the other ones. >> this trial in washington, there are a lot more documents than there are in the trial where he was just convicted. >> documents in this one. >> there are three times as many in this trial. one juror who explained the reasoning of the jury in that case said it was the documents that did him in, not rick gates'

testimony. his odds are not looking very good in that case. as far as a pardon goes, i think this whole thing is clearer than people understand. mueller, i think, is unlikely to deliver a report until after the election. the election is everything. if the republicans hold the house, trump will fire sessions, rosen stein, mueller, shut down as many prosecutors in new york he can. he will be so emboldened it will be impossible to restrain him from shutting this investigation down. if the democrats take the house, then all of this continues and the investigations go forward. >> there's also reporting from "politico" that jerry wall well jr. has told the president to fire jeff sessions. >> why is jerry falwell jr. involved in it? >> in this presidency? >> i'm not sure it's any more relevant than the president. the president obviously wants to get rid of sessions. one thing holding him back the

senate made clear he will not get a replacement confirmed so it won't solve his problem quickly. >> grassley has said -- depends if you get ben sasse or the others to vote for a replacement or cornyn. grassley said, listen, i'll have a hearing and lindsey graham saying there's wiggle room now more than there was two months ago. >> i think they're treating donald trump like the child that he is, basically trying to say, we'll do it, we'll do it and push it off. >> i don't know. like paul ryan saying donald trump was trolling everybody by revoking brennan's security clearance. let's talk about over the weekend getting a memo circulated by republicans, warning against investigations that will come up if democrats take over the house. democrats will subpoena trump's tax returning. look at trump family business. comey firing.

transgender military ban, mnuchin dealings. personal e-mails. cabinet travel. mar-a-lago, kushner ethics. epa board dismissal, travel ban -- we can't let them do this. why are they so scared of allowing democrats to look into this? they will find out what? the president worked with russia? >> the trump presidency, if they get control of the house, that is absolutely correct. if you look at what happened when the democrats got control in 2006 the last two years of george w. bush's second term were useless. he got nothing done. that gives you a sense of the stakes. if you want to end the trump -- effectively end the trump presidency, you have an

opportunity in november. >> we started this whole show asking who will put country over party, like john mccain did. this, you would imagine people would want to know about. at one time republicans want to know what was in trump's tax returns. >> it's basically news clippings, right? every story unearthed by the press the republican majority chose not to do oversight on. second of all, it's awfully vanilla. all like super obvious things in a normal oversight function either party would investigate. >> it is striking they seem to be protecting the president from quite a lot of things. thanks for being here on monday. and senator john mccain meeting the press. hn mccain meeting the press. hey allergy muddlers.

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the principles i already held. this was a tough business we're in. >> when you saw george w. bush take that oath of office yesterday, did for a microsecond you wish, gee, i wish i was up there doing that? >> everyday. >> thank you for being honest. >> i still believe we did the right thing by going in there because saddam hussein had weapons of mass destruction, had used weapons of mass destruction. if he was still in power he would be trying to acquire those weapons of mass destruction. >> senator mccain, a serious question. do you think the lady to your right would make a good president. >> we can't hear you, tim. we can't hear you. >> we're breaking up. >> i may not be the youngest candidate in this race but certainly the most prepared. i'm prepared to lead this country. i don't need any on the job training. do sarah palin and in disagree on many issues, yeah, we're mavericks. >> i hate the press, i hate you, but we need the press.

>> you've been on here a few times. >> time flies when you're having fun. >> senator john mccain, thank you for joining us. >> i haven't had so much fun since my last interrogation. >> that's funny. question will be back tomorrow with more mp daily. "the both tonight continues. >> thanks for joining us. we have breaking news about paul manafort suggesting he's changing his approach. i was on vacation last week because i'm very good at picking slow news cycles for mime time off. i want to thank athose who covered during my time off. we have reporting how this conviction of paul m