♪ ♪ just don't think you have to do it alone. ♪ ♪ the powerful backing of american express. don't live life without it. good morning and welcome to politics nation. labor day weekend traditionally marks the final stretch to our midterm elections. but this year, barring some break, a cloud hanging over these next nine weeks, called the mueller commission or mueller investigation. and the number of weekends, 60% of americans who disapprove of the job president trump is

doing, a new high according to the recent poll by the "washington post." and that be poll also shows nearly half of americans favor impeachment proceedings. the president is reacting the way he knows best, with a flurry of unbalanced tweets attacking the russia investigation, the justice department, and the news media. and that's where we start this morning. joining me now is erin delawamo and katy fang. let me ask you, erin. what do you feel in the mid of the of all of this, labor day, usually as i said, is last stretch. big elections in this midterm and we are unlike any other labor day weekend dealing with will the mueller investigation

release some bombshell? will there be something that goes down in these trade battles, negotiations, nafta? the president disinvited from a senior republican statesman's funeral, as well as not having to deal with so many other issues. this is a different kind of labor day kickoff for the midterms than we've probably seen in our lifetime, certainly in -- and certainly in american history. >> you're right. this is no quiet labor day weekend, not for americans, not for reporters. we might not see a quiet labor day weekend until president trump is out of the office. this white house thrives on changing up the story. president trump loves taking to his twitter feed in the morning to reset the agenda. and there's no shortage of things for him to talk about. he can parachute himself into any midterm battle, house or senate, change the race like

that by swarming reporters and people all over the story. we have these trade battles you mentioned, we have the mueller investigation. they're facing a september 7th deadline, according to a justice department guideline to get their findings out or they're within that 60-day wind ow of te mid determine. there's not going to be a quiet. >> the deadline according to justice, september 1st i think according to rude jewel, deadline we haven't seen any way, shape or form that they're going to be ready for the 7th, but they could come with something. they clearly didn't make the giuliani deadline and it looks like the white house counsel mcgahn who we learned two weeks ago had spent 30 hours being interviewed by the mueller investigators was dismissed or at least announced to be

dismissed by twitter, wasn't even told personally. what does all of this mean in terms of the legal standings of the president in terms of these investigations? >> so the september 1st deadline that you mentioned by rudy giuliani is not the first time that we've had legal fictions created by rudy giuliani. there is no hard and fast deadline. as erin mentioned, it's a 60-day guideline. it's actually not even written downey where, it down anywhere. it's an unwritten agriemt so as to not seem that you're suggesting or influencing the outcome of an election that you will not as a part of doj release any indictments or any type of damaging information. we have to look the person who's behind the investigation and who's quarterbacking it, and that's robert mueller. and i don't think that he's going to be moving with anymore expedited sense of urgency. i don't see him racing to achieve a goalpost goal of

filing something by september 7th. i think you probably will see another indictment, though, for example, roger stone. he's eminently going to be indicted and so i think you're going to see a little bit of activity, but may not be on a huge level. but robert mueller is very respectful of traditions and principles. so if you don't see activity in the 60 days before the midterms, that does not mean that there's nothing there, because that's exactly what trump and his surrogates wants you to believe. >> erin, that's the point, whether there is any revelations or not, there's probably going to be more proceedings and indictments. but this will be the consistent tral theme in of the most midterm elections. you saw andrew gillum, a progressive african-american candidate win the florida primary against traditional candidates. so there seems to be a rise among those that are progressive. but what will that mean in the general? will we now see in florida, in

georgia, in states all over the country it is who could get the right-wing crowd out on the right, left-wing crowd out on the left? will they go centrist? and even in the center they've got to deal with whether there was russian investigation and whether the president of the united states was in any way in collusion with that. >> rev, here's what i'm looking at. that 60% disapprove for president trump in "the washington post" poll, dig into that a little bit further and you'll see that two-thirds of independents think that mueller is correct to have an investigation here. >> two-thirds. >> two-thirds. >> and no one could win out independents or a sizeable portion of them. >> you need the independents because president trump has his base. they're solid. they're with him through thick and thin. and the progressives are firing up their machine here and getting out for the midterm elections. those independents are right in the middle. and if president trump keeps

taking to his twitter feed to attack the mueller investigation, to call it a witch-hunt and a hoax, he's going to alienate these independents, his party needs to win. >> katy, we hear witch-hunt, hoax as erin just cited, but we saw this week alone you've got now the report that the owner of the "national enquirer" has a safety box full of all kind of disparaging information on the president. we hear that another one of his close associates, his cfo was given immunity. it seems just from a nonpolitical, just from a legal perspective, that the mueller people have built enough of a case and then some to establish this is much more than a witch-hunt or a hoax. >> yeah. if this is a witch-hunt, then it's salem all over again.

here's the bottom line. you've got personal people, this is not, you know, sam patton, the republican lobbyist who just pled guilty whose going to cooperate with the mueller team. these are people that are confidants. this is the personal attorney and michael cohen for donald trump. it's allen weisselberg, the long time c.f.o. who worked with trump's father. >> weisselberg, cfo. >> exactly. he worked with trump's father when trump was a kid. these are people that are so close to donald trump and you know we hear the phrase they know where the bodies are buried. but from a legal standpoint, they provide so much danger. you also mentioned david pecker, the ceo of ami, the parent company for the "national enquirer." i do not think, reverend, that it's going to be like when geraldo rivera open to the alcapone there was nothing there. i think if you look inside that safe that we hear about, there's going to be some juicy stuff in there. from a legal perspective, do we

think that trump continues to perceive himself as a teflon don? and he has to be nervous. his kids are in the firing line. mueller's net and the noose is tightening. i believe if it's not the mueller investigation it could be a criminal investigation involving the trump foundation that could bring him down. so, you know, trump should not be casual in terms of legal exposure. and then giuliani says he's going to prepare this report that's already halfway done to rebut mueller's find sngs well how do they know what mueller has already found because we don't even know what mueller knows. >> yeah. he's going to rebut a report that has not been released. >> exactly. >> and that he has not read. shows you how credible that report could be. but, erin, is the democrats in danger of getting so involved in the weeds that they miss the real issues that they need to energize their base? you talk about president trump's

base. that they're not talking about things that affect people on the ground and everyday america to give them a reason to come out. the economy, or how -- yes, unemployment is record low starting from the obama years. but wage stagnation and how we're going to deal with social security and medicaid and medicare and healthcare, and the criminal justice system. is the democrats in danger of overplaying the trump possible scandals and underplaying what really will make people come out and vote? >> rev, when i talk to voters they tell me that they want candidates to show them something to vote for, not something to vote against. they want a strong economic message. what's going to happen to my healthcare premiums? is my jobbing to going to be safe? is my family going to be better off in five years than right now? president trump can get up on the campaign trail and talk about the economy, he can say the stock market's booming and

that investigators feel emboldened. democrats need to come up and say you're at risk here. >> right. >> this tax reform, did you feel it in your paycheck? that's what democrats need to come out and say. and you see a lot of democratic lawmakers shying away from using the "i" word. they don't want to talk about impeachment because that turns off a lot of democrat but mostly independent voters and it might fire up the republican base. >> just to knock me out doesn't mean that yue you are a better alternative and that i think is the danger labor day 2018. the democrats face. thank you, erin delmore and katy fang. coming up, is the democratic party committed to candidates of color especially the number of women being elected for office. be right back. women being elected for office be right back. take this left.

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. the argument for a democratic blue wave was strengthened this week with the primary victory of florida gubernatorial candidate andrew gillum. that now makes three black progressive candidates for governor. two of them in the deep south. with gillum in florida, and stacey abrams next door in georgia, and then you have ben gellus in maryland. and at the same time a record number of black women running

for office. all of this feels regressive to me, just two years after a black president in the white house. a point i have to make. but the deeper question is whether the democratic party will commit resources these candidates will need to be successful in november. joining me now is democratic national committee chair tom perez. thank you for being with us, mr. chairman. >> it's always a pleasure to be with you, rev. >> now, about a month ago in atlanta black leadership summit of the dnc and people were concerned what a record number of black women run rearing record number of women running, where the democratic party would be in terms of its resources and dealt with it with you forthrightly and you came back very strongly saying we'll there, we're going to put the resour resources there. how, in this increased number of

black women running and others running that have, in many case, not been political before, how will the democratic party function where it is not a beltway down kind of engagement but really engaging and working with organic and grassroots candidacies? >> i think that's the key. we've been working together with an array of partners out there in the progressive ecosystem, not just starting this year but last year. we were really proud to have played a role in the election of keisha lance bottoms to be the mayor of atlanta. vie lyles in charlotte. our mission at the dnc is to elect democrats up and down the ticket from the school board to the oval office. and we recognized that african americans, african-american women in particular, the backbone of the democratic party, we needed to put our money where our mouth was. that's why we invested in those races. i mentioned. that's why we invested in doug jones' race in alabama and

obviously the african-american vote was the key for that victy. and here in 2018 earlier this year just by waive example, we made a six-figure investment in rural organizing of african-american voters in georgia. because one thing we learned from looking at the data is rough lay third of african americans in georgia live outside of major metro poll ton areas. >> that's right. >> and frankly, historically, we did not invest enough in those areas. >> so you're going in areas that have been neglected before, which is critical. let me ask this as well. there was in the recent conference of the dnc in chicago a real change in how we deal with the rules and inclusion of people, the battle over super delegates. and this was something that progressive raise and the congressional black caucus and others said, oh, you're going to bring down our power and you led

the fight and by a very impressive margin was able to bring down the influence of super delegates and bring in more people that may not have that status. what was the reasoning behind that and what do you think will be the impact of that? >> our reasoning was growing the party if the was uniting the party and it was increasing trust in the party, reverend sharpton. because super delegates have never decided who has won the nomination. they've been in place since 1984. but they have affected people's sense of whether the process was fair. and they've affected people's sense of whether the process was fair because let's go to the iowa caucus, the first time when people vote in the primary. if you're a week or two out of the iowa caucus and nobody has voted yet, and yet one candidate has 300 delegates to the

convection, people ask the question, how can that be fair? nobody's voted yet? and so what we did in this super delegate reform was to send a very important message to voters. especially young voters who share our values but are more reluctant to join our party. and the message was, we trust the grassroots. and the message was, we're listening to you. and we know in 2020, reverend sharpton, we're going to have a lot of candidates for president. if we have, say, 15 candidates, we know 14 ever them aren't going to make it to the mountain top. what i want to make sure we do seine sure that everybody who participants, i'm not just talking about candidates, but voters, feels like their candidate got a fair shake. i'm proud of the fact that these reforms were passed overwhelmingly. this is going to help grow our party. and when we grow our party, that is how we win. >> now, the president of the

united states said, donald trump, that they could lead to violence. yes, he said to violence if there was this blue wave or if the midterm elections reaped a large majority in the house less known the senate. how do you react to the president saying that? >> once again, it's the politics of fear. he's been putting fear on the ballot his entire campaign for president and since he has governed. and what we're doing is we're putting hope on the ballot, reverend sharpton. we are talking to people in every zip code and we're saying we're fighting for your healthcare, we're fighting to make sure if you have a preexisting condition you can keep your healthcare. we're fighting to bring down the costs of prescription drugs. we're fighting for quality education. we're fighting to make sure that we have a criminal justice system that is fair to everyone. we're fighting to make sure that you have the right to vote. we're fighting to make sure wee have an education secretary who actually believes in public education. we're fighting for our

democracy. we're fighting this culture of corruption. and we're putting hope on the ballot. and what heartens me, reverend sharpton, we saw it last week in florida, is the turnout, the enthusiasm among democrats. and it wasn't simply in florida. we saw it in arizona last week where we have david garcia on the ballot to be governor there. and this enthusiasm is a real, real bell -- >> you're saying, mr. chairman, the blue wave is real and the message is health care and public education and dealing with the economy as it hits people and the criminal justice system. you're saying that you're not running on impooch trump but that the -- impeach trump, but that there is a message of the democratic party because that's what we got done discussing in the last segment and the last several weeks. the democratic part'y's message is it a pro if you're with me

this is where we are rather than a con or negative about we've got to get rid of trump but not being clear about what that means? >> we believe as democrats in prosperity for everyone, not prosperity for a few at the top. we believe that every zip code counts. we believe that everyone deserves a second chance. we believe that healthcare say right for all and not a privilege for a few. we believe that the education secretary ought to care about public education. we believe that everybody counts and our immigrant tradition is what has always made america great. these are the values that we're fighting for. we're fighting for good jobs. we're fighting for fair wages. we're fighting in every zip code for those things. and we're not pitting one group against another. america's at its best when we understand that we're all in this together. and that's how we've been winning as democrats, making sure that whether it's in oklahoma where we helped democrats win four seats in special elections in trump country, we did that because we

were talking about the issues that were important to those voters. and in florida we're going to do the same thing. in georgia, in arizona, in my home state of maryland where we have a chance to make history there. >> all right. >> when we focus on all of these issues, on the issues that really bring prosperity to everyone, that's how we succeed as democrats. we have your back. >> i'm going to have to hold it there, mr. chairman. thank you very much for coming on this labor day weekend. tom perez, chair of the dnc. >> pleasure. coming up, there's a new class called police brutality 101. how to survive the killing of an unarmed black man. i'll explain next. d black man. i'll explain next. (vo) when bandits stole the lockbox from the wells fargo stagecoach,

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passed before police on scene attempted emergency aid, and no weapons were recovered from crutcher's car. shelby was acquitted of manslaughter by a jury that nonetheless took issue with her use of deadly force with at least one juror telling press she did not need to be a cop on the street. she resigned from the tulsa police department, but soon after was deputized by neighboring county sheriff's office, hence, her new role as a visiting instructor to fellow officers in where else? tulsa. earlier this week, she defended her class. >> when i was told that i would possibly never be in law enforcement again, i needed to find a purpose. so i made a commitment to help my brothers and sisters. they're scared of the media tormenting them. they're scared of activist

groups tormenting them. >> when police unions and misconduct apologyists insist that blue lives matter, a sent mea -- sentiment i take no i issue with on its face, had they're intentionally suggesting that the values of cops' lives have ever been at issue in the mainstream america, we another better than that. shelby is living proof, emphasis on living. but you can't say that about black lives. and whatever challenge shelby was not prepared for, i argue it pale's to the comparison that terrence crusher's family has faced these last four years. his children will face growing up without a father. the hundreds of tulsa residents that protested shelby's class earlier this week understand this.

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coming off the guilty verdicts of paul manafort and michael cohen, last week a growing roster of democratic senators have either refused or canceled a meeting with brett kavanaugh contending that the legal implications either invalidate the president's nominee for the supreme court or called for a delayed confirmation hearings at least. but unless something drastic happens, those hearings will begin as planned in just two days. and we in the civil rights community will continue to stress the damage this proposed court can do with or without trump in the white house. joining me now is christian clock, president and executive director of the lawyers committee for civil rights and

john malcolm, a vice president and senior legal fellow at the heritage foundation. john, let me start with you. >> sure. >> you've said that you have put the name of brett kavanaugh out there, even before president trump nominated him, and that you fully have been pushing his candidacy or his nomination and therefore confirmation to the supreme court. why? >> well, first of all, thank you for having me on the show. yes, i put out a list it was a nonexclusive list, of eight people that i thought would be excellent supreme court justices about a month and a half after justice scalia died. and brett kavanaugh was on that list in addition to an outstanding pedigree, he served distinction on the d.c. circuit court of appeals, the second most important court in the land for the last dozen years. he's written 307 opinions, joined 391 more. he's indicated that he is fair and impartial. will apply the law faithfully

regardless of which party is suing whom. he's ruled for employers, against employers, for agencies, against agencies. and his opinions are always thoughtful and so i just think he is outstanding in every way, which is why the american bar association hardly a bash of conservative legal thought has unanimously given his its highest rating? >> christian, what about that and one about one of the things john mentioned is that he has take ann position that a sitting president should not face indictment or prosecution. and many feel that he's being nominated because if, in fact, it becomes a legal question of impeachment or indictment of president trump, he feels that kavanaugh would vote on the supreme court not to proceed. >> well, a few things. one, no doubt the heritage foundation has played a front and center role in this administration's approach to judicial nominees, it's not just

brett kavanaugh. so far a year and a half in president trump's tenure they have confirmed more than 60 nominees, many of whom were hand picked by the heritage foundation. >> when you say 60, you're talking about federal judges? >> all across the board. >> as well as the supreme court nominee. >> that's right. and this administration is moving at lightning speed to install judges on our courts. and what i am deeply concerned about is the fact that we are moving forward as a reckless pace here. mr. kavanaugh's full record has not yet been disclosed to the public, has not been made available to the senate in order for them to properly carry forth their duty and obligation under the constitution to provide advice and consent. i think you're right that president trump hand picked brett kavanaugh in large part because of his views on executive power. he is somebody who believes that a sitting president shouldn't be hampered, burdened by criminal investigation and i think that has great appeal to this

president giving all that is looming right now with special counsel mueller's pending investigation. but more importantly, the senate doesn't have the materials and information they need in order to fully vet mr. kavanaugh for a see the seat on our nation's highest court. hundreds of thousands of documents from mr. kavanaugh's time as white house secretary have not been turned over. and in a shocking move on friday night, the white house indicated that they were invoking executi executive privilege, something that has not been done in modern time perhaps ever and refusing to turn over materials to the senate that they need to do their job. it makes us ask what are they hiding in his record. >> yeah. >> what are the issues that he touched during his time in the white house working shoulder to shoulder with mr. bush but they don't want to surface during these hearings? >> john, let me ask you this because i'm a little confused. when you laid down why you and

the hater table foundation was pushing this choice of brett kavanaugh, you talked about his pedigree and his service. where were all of those standards when president barack obama nominated merrill garland who was actively stalled and actively blocked for over a year? i mean, he certainly had pedigree, he certainly had a long record. so doesn't it seem hypocritical to now have a different standard for this nominee than you used to stall the nomination of merrill garland? let's talk right here. what happened to pedigree and record then? >> fair enough. and i will respond to your question, i just want to respond tie couple things -- >> no, first respond to my question. >> i'll respond to you. you are not going to hear me say anything negative about chief judge merit garland. chief judge merit garland say fine public servant. >> so he should have been seated.

>> if i could finish. >> should he have been seated in the yes, you can finish but should he have been seated? >>s that wa a decision made by the republican senate in a presidential election year where a justice is going to be sitting for as long as 25 or 30 years and with the supreme court very much on the ballot for the first time in a long, long time that that was a decision that should be made by the people. it was quite a gamble because everyone expected hillary clinton to win and appoint somebody who was younger and more pro gret gressive. >> why can't the people make a decision now? we're going into a midterm election with a president under investigation. what happened to the will and the right of the people now? >> hold on. okay. first of all, it's not a presidential election year. >> so what. it's still going to decide where we're going the next 20 or 30 years. it doesn't matter which office, this is a decisive election and the president is under an active investigation where there's been convictions and guilty please. >> reverend, with all due respect, so was president clinton when he nominated and got confirmed both ruth bader

ginsberg and stephen breyer. >> well why wasn't. man in the office when alabama nominated garland? i think his point is my point. clinton was able to get things through, every president was. why was it a different standard for barack obama? >> it's a double standard. and the folks who have been controlling this process, chairman grassley and others, speak from both sides of their mouth. during justice kagan's nomination, folks like jeff sessions insisted on disclosure each and every document from kagan's time in the white house. but now we see the senate at every turn changing the rules of the game, abanding the long-standing pro decision and rules that have helped guide the most important task the senate carries out, installing lifetime judges on our nation's courts. this hearing should not be going forward on tuesday. we need to press pause, we need

to give the senate time to evaluate each and every document underlying mr. kavanaugh's record so we can understand who he truly is before we think about whether he qualifies for a life-time seat on our nation's highest court. >> let me go back to john because i promised you could respond to what crikristen had d before. to show i am fair and balanced, i'll let you respond. >> i appreciate that. first of all, over twice as many documents had been produced for brett kavanaugh as the next lowest number for any other nominee in the history of the supreme court. >> so what if they're not all the documents, what difference does that make? >> reverend, very simply. kristen just talked about kagan. from her time in the white house counsel's office, all of those documents were produced from the time she was the solicitor general, none of those documents were produced because they involve executive privilege. from brett kavanaugh's time in the white house, every document from when he was in the white house counsel's office has been

produced. where executive privilege has been asserted is for documents that passed over his desk that involved decision making directly by the president. that is a traditional usage of executive privilege. and the other thing i would gist say in response to something that you said is that brett kavanaugh has suggested that congress may want to pass a law that would prevent a sitting president from being sued. there all vad department of justice memorandum that says the sitting president cannot be indicted. there is no reason to believe that as a judge that he could not sit in judgment of the president. just as four nixon appointees. >> hold on a minute. the justice department is not a law, there is no law saying that a president cannot be prosecuted. >> correct. >> there's a memo in the justice department. >> that's correct. >> which means absolutely nothing. it will go to the supreme court and if this judge is already predisposed to prejudge that shouldn't happen, the american people have a right to know that. >> reverend, with all due

respect, that's not correct. >> what is not correct? >> there is an opinion within the justice department which means that the justice department cannot charge him. so it's not going to get to the supreme zblort but there's supreme court. >> but there's no law preventing them. >> that's correct. >> but if they change -- >> if they change that memo, then he could be indicted, possibly. and a case could make its way to the supreme court. but brett kavanaugh has not set -- >> and we need to know where kavanaugh is since kavanaugh has writings that has not been made available, we do not know if he's take than position. that is why we need all the records. >> brett kavanaugh has said nothing about whether or not -- >> we do not know that if we can't get the records. we want to know what he said and just like you stalled garland, why can't we wait and see what he said, not what he says he said, but what he said? >> reverend, if i may finish. he has not said that as a constitutional matter a sitting

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of soul. yes, a diva's diva, who knew her worth and was not afraid to let you know it, but to those of us she cared for, she was also a freedom fighter, a beacon of light for women, for blacks, for the outcast, for the downtrodden, for everybody that stood for what's right, we had a queen, we had one that brought us in our royal family and we will never forget it. i had the honor to interview aretha franklin for this very show. when we come back, a look at seven years of "politics nation" our anniversary today. stay with us. >> welcome to politics nation i'm al sharpton. the real showdown in american politics. ♪ [ coughs ] ♪

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as i mentioned before in my life time, i've had the honor to cross paths with people i've admired, emulated, mentored, or just rooted for, and sometimes rooted against, but even then, i learned something from the exchange. seven years ago, i was fortunate to gain this platform, where i could put these relationships to one of the best possible uses i could think of. >> welcome to "politics nation."

i'm al sharpton. tonight's lead, the real showdown in american politics. >> welcome back to the "politics nation" science lab. >> we're gathered here today to mourn a sad loss, the loss of another bogus gop talking point. >> i'm al sharpton, let's talk about it on "politics nation." >> reverend al, you take this away. >> i can do that, okay, which one is my camera? >> great to be back here at the apollo tonight. >> i'm coming to you live from the sweet festival in downtown atlanta, georgia. live from the great city of new orleans for the 19th annual essence festival. we're live tonight from democracy plaza in new york's rockefeller center. obamacare is here to stay. please help me welcome tyler perry. the queen of soul, miss aretha franklin.

rosie perez. joining me now is edris. the one and only smokey robinson. cuba gooding jr. russell simmons. andre tally. harry bellafonte. >> it's much better seeing you on this side than the other side. last time i visited you in jail. puffy, you are not only a mega star mogul -- you and i worked together on sunday mornings usually at chump. >> that's right. i'm glad you're doing this early enough so people can watch before they go to church. >> joining me now is valerie jarrett, senior adviser to president obama. mr. president, thank you for doing this. >> good to see you. >> your legacy is on the ballot. >> everything that we've done over the last eight years will be reversed with the trump presidency. >> the fight against stand your ground and the legacy of trayvon

martin. >> my parents couldn't take me to have a hamburger at the woolworth's lunch counter but had me convinced i could be president of the united states if i wanted to be. >> when i stood here and looked out and saw this sea of humanity, i was gratified, i was deeply motorified. ♪ we have overcome today >> and you can't fight for anyone's civil rights unless you fight for everyone's civil rights. well, over these seven years, we have tried to show those in power and hold them accountable, whether i agreed with them or disagreed and we've tried to give voice to the voiceless that needed america to hear what they had to say. i've tried to be transparent when i had a view, and when i was a participant in trying to get america's attention on certain things, and i've tried to learn from those that disagreed. it's been seven years, and we continue to try to make this

nation what this nation professes to be. that does it for me. thanks for watching. i'll see you back here next sunday. now to my colleague, frances rivera. >> happy anniversary to you. nice flashback for us to enjoy, thank you. good morning to you. i'm frances rivera in new york at msnbc world headquarters. with the with t alex witt is off today. direct message the president takes to twit we are a series of remarks including one that appears in some of the shots taken at the mccain memorial. new information on how jared kushner and evan ta trump ended up as surprise attendees at the cathedral. the gop candidate for governor in florida being accused of racist remarks. the whole affair may be spurring more racially charged fallout. details ahead. o, canada, the battle over trade with neighbors to the

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