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that does it for me, i'm david gura, join me tomorrow at 2:00 and 3:00 p.m. and we continue now with richard lui. >> i'm richard lui at nbc headquarters in new york city. this hour for you, we'll cover a lot. back on the trail. moments ago in california former president barack obama giving his second speech in as many days targeting the politics of donald trump. his message to voters and what it means for the midterms. plus whodonit. the white house still scrambling to find the author of the op-ed and how this is rattling the president and his administration into and supreme battle. brett kavanaugh contentious confirmation hearing is over. why democratic efforts to derail his nomination will likely come
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up empty. but we'll start this hour with former president barack obama on the campaign trail in california, just about an hour ago trying to help fellow democrats win control of the congress in the midterms. moments ago he wrapped up his speech in support of seven candidates. here is a little bit of that. >> we're in a challenging moment. because when you look at the arc of american history, there has always been a push and pull between those who want to go forward and those who want to look back, between those who want to divide and -- and those seeking to bring people together. between those who promote politics of hope and those who exploit politics of fear,. >> joining me now, michelle
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cinder, our white house correspondent and franco odonez from mcclatchy newspapers and chris whipple and author of the gatekeepers, how the white house chiefs of staff define every presidency. this is a second speech we've now seen in as many days and tone perhaps the same, duration certainly less. what did you make of what he said today? >> really president obama and former president obama is telling people it is time to get out there and bring it on. it is time to get motivated. i think the president recognizes that the democrats need someone to really fire them up. not only do they -- the democrats have this now a clear message of progressive politics and really knowing that issues rather than just being anti-trump is going to get them over the line but president obama is having a message for people who didn't vote at all. whole half of america in the 2016 election that didn't leave
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homes and said i don't want to pick either candidate or i just don't care and i think president obama is trying to motivate those people to say, look at all in a -- that is going on in washington and it is not normal and you need to get out and pay attention. >> so many electorate around the country leaning center left have been looking for this sort of messaging, a leadership in speech making, leadership in the ideas that i guess encompass what those -- from those spaces want to hear. is he getting it done and is he the right person? >> i think that is to see. there is no question about it that that desire for leadership has been there. no one has really stepped forward. we're seeing that in primaries as many of the bernie sanders' wing is winning in the establishment of democrats and they have been left out of this fervor, there is a lot of push for -- and desire for former
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president obama to kind of step out there and kind of break tradition and speak out. it has been very fascinating and fascinating watching some of his talk, talking about push and pull. it was kind of like old school obama, talking about hope and really kind of putting one side versus the other, one saying, hey, we can do things together better, rather than a divisive message that he said trump is pushing. >> you know, chris whipple, the way this workz, in modern day and trump and his desire to have attention and control media and the message if you will, and then you have -- well on the left, the guy who used to do that all of the time. you might compare this to the current sort of jake paul logan paul boxing matches. they're out there grabbing for attention. who is doing the better job. >> i thought obama was fired up and ready to go and he's effect because he did keep his powder dry for long.
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he took a page from bush and was quietment i disagreed with somebody elsier who said he lessened his brand by mentioning trump but i think he realized he needs to bring it, a little bit of michael avenatti to the fight, instead of bringing a knife to a gun fight, he has to bring it. >> and i've got a follow up but i want to bring many steve patterson, our correspondent on the ground in anaheim, california. never a bad day there in the weather. never a bad day in california when you have a messenger like barack obama, the former president addressing californians. although this part of the state is -- is known for its conservatism. >> this part of the state is famous for its conservatism and people would consider this reagan country, orange county specifically. you look at districts and you know a lot of incumbents have been in power for years if not
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decades and so in many cases this is an uphill battle for a lot of the democratic challenges but the pattern that we've seen is that so many of them now are surging the fund raising has been incredible and the polling is strong. you want to talk about a blue wave, a lot of the national democrats are pointing towards orange county specifically looking at these seven seats which stretches up and down southern california as the real focus. why? because in a lot of these districts that have a republican incumbent that have a surging democrat, a lot of them voted, seven specifically, for hillary clinton in 2016. so that is why we had six of the seven of these fighting for a congressional seat here today to watch the remarks from former president obama. and i just spoke to a few of them. a lot of them got a chance to meet him and take pictures before he went on stage. they say they are in spired and invigorated by his message. not only the message that was
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sort of the strong campaign obama that we heard, the rhetoric aimed at the republican party and from yesterday but the stately president obama that i think we got a big dose of today. i think that was also just as galvanizing if not more if you are talking about a call to arms not only for the people that are running but also for the people that are on the ground here that are poised to vote in november. i think this is a big deal to have the former president here with specifically that message today, richard. >> steve, stand by. i want to play more of what you heard but for the benefit of folks that are now watching and may have missed the president's speech i want to play this statement from the former president about divisive politics. >> it is always tempting for politicians, for their own gain and for people in power to try see if they can divide people,
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scape goat folks and turn them on each other, because when that happens, you get gridlock and government doesn't work and -- and people get cynical and they decide not to participate. then when people don't participate, then that vacuum is filled by lobbyist and special interests and we get into a downward spiral where people get more and more discouraged and they think nothing will make a difference and that unfortunately is a spiral we've been on the last couple of years. and the only way -- the only way we reverse that cycle of anger and division is when each of us as citizens step up and say we're going to take it upon ourselves to do things differently. we're going to -- we're going to
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fight for the things that we believe in. >> so steve patterson, is that going to work, quickly if you can tell me, for those voters that might be swinging and might affect the seven districts because the economy is good. >> i think that is exactly the message that voters are here looking for. not necessarily the one that is so counter to the administration that is in office but a message of hope that your vote will make a difference and could make things better in a district in which again we've been mentioning, these are traditionally red places where voters have been voting for a lot of times the same incumbent for years and years and if not decades. they're looking for a different message and one that speaks to them and i think they heard it today. >> yamich. >> president obama is saying that america is changing and you could embrace america and say the difference with the -- we'll
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fight and say because you are a different race or gender and that will make things differently for the world and say it is evolving and the goal is to make this country better and freedom and people treated equally. and i think president obama is recognizing that we will be different and coming from different places but use that as a way to move forward and not say you are different than me and as a result i shouldn't vote for you. >> i think it is interesting that he's making the message while also bringing a little bit of fire as your other guest was saying. this is something that we will see if it resonates with kind of like this new push in the democratic party to kind of fight more fire with fire, as we saw in the kavanaugh hearings, there is concern in the first few days of those supreme court hearings that the democrats were not fighting hard enough, they were not throwing the kitchen
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sink at this situation on the last day of the hearings we saw cory booker talking about risking his senate seat to turn over classified information. that is the kind of message that many democrats are looking at -- looking for and are wanting to fight, and as said, the michael avenatti of the party. can obama serve that role? i'm not really sure, however there is no question that in his speeches he is saying, hey, we need to do something. this is a moment. this is why i'm coming forward. this is why i'm talking about trump. this is a pivotal moment that we got to do something and if we don't, then we're not going to have the same kind of accountability that we need if we don't take control of the house. that is democrats' message. >> and chris, the current president, president trump is good at this stuff, the media wars, the back and forth. can he win this one out? >> he's good at this stuff. but the re-emergence of obama is a reminder that most presidents learn the hard way and that
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there is a difference between campaigning and governing and when you campaign you divide and disrupt and then you get things done. i think voters in the midterms will ask what is he really got done other than a stock market booming which affects mostly the wealthy and they're getting hurt with health care. so i think that trump has yet to learn that there is a difference between campaigning and governing. >> and we're finding out that is coming together or far apart in the recent two years. thank you all. steve patterson on the ground, franco and chris whipple, you all have a great saturday. off to jail. george papadopoulos gets 14 days behind bars for lying to the fbi. and a white house official said removing the president was whispered. we'll explain the difficult process of stripping a president of his powers.
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and welcome back. one of the most stunning lines from the bombshell new york times op-ed from an unidentified senior official from the trump administration was this one. given the instability many witnesses early whispers within the cabinet of invoking the 25th amendment which would start a complex process for removing the president but no one wanted to precipitate a constitutional
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crisis. every watching that quote. the 25th amendment is what we're talking about, ratified in 1967. never been used to remove a president from office. although it has been used to temporarily transfer power. now the last time was in 2007 when george w. bush underwent a medical procedure and briefly transferred power to dick cheney and permanently taking away those powers is more complex. to do that, a majority of the 15 cabinet secretaries must agree that the president is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office. and this is a very important part. vice president pence would also have to agree, at which time congress is notified, and then vice president pence immediately becomes acting president. you could see the glaring conflict of interest there for pence in this sort of situation. now the real constitutional crisis comes when president trump responds by telling
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congress that no inability exists. then it goes back to pence and the cabinet. and if they back off, trump regains all of the powers. you got that? but if they insist to congress that he's incapacitated, the house and senate would then have to voto on -- vote on it and the bar is very high. two-thirds of each chamber would have to agree to strip president trump of his presidential powers, in short. george papadopoulos will be on his way to prison after being sentenced on friday to 14 days in jail. along with a fine of $9,500, 200 hours of community service and a year of supervised release. he is the first campaign adviser to be sentenced amongst all that we've been reporting on regarding the investigation. three others have pleaded guilty so far or were convicted of felonies and awaiting sentences. papadopoulos broke his silence on friday appearing for his
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first interview since pleading guilty. he said he does not recall telling campaign colleagues that russians that he met had compromising information on hillary clinton. take a listen. >> there are going to be people out there who think there is no way george papadopoulos didn't tell anyone on the campaign. did you tell anyone on the campaign? >> as far as i remember, i absolutely did not -- >> you didn't tell cory lewandowski. >> as far as i remember, i did not share this information with anyone on the campaign? >> none of them? >> i might have but i have no recollection of doing so. i can't get into it all i can say is my memtory is telling me i never shared it with anyone on the campaign. >> joining us now katie phang and analyst and former special assistant to president obama, ned price. katie, the number of days here -- just looking at that and the 14 days in jail, a fine of
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$9,000 and 200 hours of community service and there is not a lot of there -- there. >> i was laughing, because he said my memory is telling me. >> we all have our memories. >> there are critics on both sides. it wasn't enough. it was plenty enough. 14 days doesn't sound like a lot to you and i, 14 days in federal prison is a lot for george papadopoulos. he's never had exposure to the criminal justice system so it is a significant sentence considering the range for his sentence, richard, was up to six moz. now clearly his lawyers only wanted probation. it is a you're of supervised release when he gets out of federal prison, but the imprint is alex van zer zahn got 30 days and he's the first to plead guilty and so who is next to plead guilty. perhaps paul manafort with his upcoming trial. but you look at the
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participation of papadopoulos and it is an appropriate sentence considering what he did and what he knew. >> ned, what do you think? no deal then? is that what happened? there is no cooperation happening? >> well it sounds like prosecutors deemed early on that george papadopoulos was not a reliable witness. we have to remember that he got into this predicament because he lied to the fbi. and so clearly there is a very mixed track record to put it lightly about his cred -- credibility. the real import that george papadopoulos brings to bob mueller and the team is the documentary evidence, the material and information that accompanied his arrest in this case. they have access to his cell phones, they have access to his e-mail and access to other written records from his residence and other associated properties. so i have no doubt that bob mueller and his team have gone through all of that.
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they have cross-checked all of papadopoulos' statements with the documentary evidence they have and that is much more valuable in building a case potentially against other trump associates and than anything george papadopoulos would say. you could imagine if there was some sort of cooperation agreement that we would see that the defense attacking george papadopoulos in the same way that paul manafort's attorneys went after rick gates, went after rick gates' credibility and what we know of george papadopoulos this is a pretty fruitful avenue for a defense attorney to go. >> both great points from both of you. talking about cooperation, and it doesn't sound like we'll get a solid or definitive or consistent answer from rudy giuliani on that cooperation in terms of president trump and the mueller investigation. and so let's move on to bob woodward's book in the decision of whether or not to allow the president to have an interview and give testimony.
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an excerpt from the book basically said that the president -- and i'll read from it. saying that during the mock element -- excuse me, during a mock interview, what had happened is this, quote, the next 30 minutes were useless. the thing is a -- a hoax. trump reprised everything he had tweeted or said before. dowd could get nowhere. trump was raging, dowd worried if he been mueller that trump would have probably fired him on the spot. it was almost as if trump were asking why am i sitting here answering questions, i am the president of the united states. what do you make of that plus other excerpts from the book here katie, that basically says dowd is saying you're not going to be a good witness, sir. >> as a trial lawyer, i would be grateful if i were the compla t complaint -- the client and had somebody like dowd. running through the process of the interview with somebody like
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robert mueller. this is no new news. we know trump thinks he could best robert mueller with his hands tied behind his back and blindfolded so trump is not going to heed what his lawyers tell him or maybe he will. we know that trump has sat for depositions prior on video taped depositions under oath where he's able to control his emotions and his behavior so the fact of the matter is those were during the business litigation issues. those are lawsuits over failure to pay subcontractors and things like this. that is more at stake than just some money. and so i don't think that what we read in the woodward book or hear about is false. i think it is completely consistent with how trump would react to the types of questions posed to him and that is the danger with somebody like trump citiing with robert mueller and the fact that now robert mueller has said i'll taken -- written answers and that is not agreed to and that shows he can't get out of a perjury trap even with
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written responses. >> and do you believe what was written about the president not being a good witness here. >> certainly. if i look at the president's track record in public, he hasn't been able to maintain a consistent story. take the james comey firing, one of the central elements of this in the obstruction of justice realm. the president at first, through witten statements and some of his verbal statements, was adamant that he was doing this on the recommendation of rod rosenstein for the very reason that jim comey was too hard on hillary clinton in the months since he has made a mockery of that initial rational claiming that both james comey, andy mccabe, the jeff sessions justice department, everyone and anyone has been too soft on hillary clinton and that is just one example. so i think john dowd, the president's former attorney, was on to something when he said that the president would not be able to do this. and what is -- just as interesting to me is bob mueller's response. if you keep reading what is in
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the woodward book, mueller apparently responded to john dowd saying, i understand,which i think says a lot about how prosecutors, including bob mueller, have come to see the president of the united states who may well be a target in this investigation. >> and folks -- and bob woodward included might be looking at the washington post fact checker which has over 4,000 false or misleading claims in the first 550 days. that might be one reason why. katie phang and ned price, thank you both. a contentious week of hearing for brett kavanaugh. the democratic efforts to derail his nomination appearing to go nowhere. what we now know about kavanaugh that we didn't know before the hearing began. i don't keep track of regrets.
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new today, three prominent liberal groups are calling for democrats to launch an investigation into president trump's supreme court nominee brett kavanaugh. they allege he committed perjury during this week's confirmation hearings. a senate vote to confirm supreme court nominee brett kavanaugh is expected by the end of the month. despite democratic efforts to stop it so far. let's bring in now supreme court correspondent with the l.a.
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times david savage and political reporter eugene scott. let's start with you on this, david. can that happen? do you believe that what was said so far -- senator patrick layhe saying he was not truthful in a washington post interview. is that enough for perjury? >> no, i don't think so. perjury is a pretty strong word. it is a good political charge to say he wasn't straightforward or honest. brett kavanaugh said he knew he got a lot of information that was sort of confidential. he said he didn't know it was stolen. leahy doesn't believe him but it is hard to make a perjury claim based on that disagreement. >> how far might they be able to take this? >> i think from the democrats' point of view, not very far. it is a good talking point to say he wasn't straight with us on a whole series of issues. but as you -- as you noted in the opening, the republicans have the votes. they will put him out -- send him out of the committee on a
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straight party line vote this week -- this coming week and then to the floor and the republicans have the votes to confirm him. the democrats are angry and frustrated. but i can't see how this would stop the confirmation. >> eugene, is there any other strategy that the democrats might employ at this point and, two, what were some of the takeaways you believe that was learned for those watching such as yourself, from the hearings on the issues and the views that brett kavanaugh might have, issues such as roe v. wade and minority rights, presidential powers which was a big part of the discussion this week, too. >> i believe every strategy the democrats had they used and that is what they really wanted to do more than anything else. to motivate their base and show them that brett kavanaugh is a conservative. he is someone who will not put forward rulings and an interpretation of the law consistent with liberals and individuals that believe that lgbt rights, women's rights,
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rights of people of color and other minorities need to be advanced. whether or not that is true for kavanaugh personally, that is aimed to portray him. >> i want to play this quickly and we're short on time but it is john dean's warning about testimony -- that has been heard. let's play that. so when we do get that sound from john dean, he's basically warning that brett kavanaugh -- we now have it so let's play it. >> if judge kavanaugh joins the court, it will be the most presidential powers friendly court in the modern era. under judge kavanaugh's recommendation, if a president shot somebody in cold blood on fifth avenue, that president could not be prosecuted while in office. >> david, what do you make?
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>> well, i just think those kind of charges are not going to -- are not going to go very far in this situation because republicans are just going to move ahead and confirm him. >> but this is john dean. right? >> absolutely. and someone very familiar of being in a position where the president is someone who does need to be held accountable and i think what the democrats tried to do is just not -- not commit to liberals but to the conservatives as well who want to see a leader with checks and balances that brett kavanaugh might not be that if he makes it to the court and it is looking like he will. thank you both. >> thank you. coming up, former president barack obama directly challenging president trump's politics for the first time. the president is firing back. a look at which side might benefit most in the midterms from this clash of political titans.
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exploit politics of fear. >> former president obama right there taking the stage in a campaign rally today in california about a couple of hours ago. president trump did the very same thing in north dakota last night. both men taking jabs at each other as they push ahead to the midterm elections. >> -- paranoia has unfortunately found a home in the republican party. >> and he said what did you think of president obama's speech and i said, i'm sorry, i watched it but i fell asleep. i found he's very good -- very good for sleeping. >> all right. so we all know what is up -- at risk at the moment. the stakes are high. the house and senate, who is going to take control potentially after this 2018
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election. well the president has scheduled rallies in missouri, mississippi, next week and also expected to spend more than 40 days on the campaign trail leading up to the midterms just in california and in a place where seven seats are up for grabs there that could swing either way. obama for his part is expected to make campaign stops in ohio, illinois and pennsylvania this month. joining me now sher michael singleton and gabriela do main and director of the latino policy institute and roger williams university and i plead with both of you, please be civil. i joke. but no matter which side of the aisle you're on, and when you see the two of them now that were potentially going toe to toe, there is a lot of energy coming together into this ring, sher michael and the question is what will happen and who will prevail? >> well, look, i do think that president obama has to be careful because he could risk increasing enthusiasm on our
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side. a lot of republicans aren't very happy with his eight years, particularly when you talk about the affordable care act and immigration. but at the same time, i think president trump could have that same impact as president obama so i think it will come down to what person will encourage enthusiasm if you will on the left or right. so this is very, very intriguing to watch. but keep in mind one additional thing. during president obama's eight years democrats lost a significant number of seats in the house and the senate and state governorship and legislators so we have to careful as we assess president obama's words going forward because he doesn't want to risk, if you will, giving republicans an advantage that they might not necessarily have currently but that momentum could change as a result of his attacks on president trump. >> gabriel, your thought? >> i agree with what he said but elections are about contrast. so there is no better contrast than these twomen.
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i think it's a double-edged sword because the nation is so divided that a lot of the races will be won with grassroots organizing and door knocking, et cetera and that is not something that is flashy for the news cameras. but i for one was -- i really just took a big breath of air, a fresh air when the president came back on. i wish he had engaged more on policy and not just in politics but i'm happy that we have a contrast that looks americans in the eyes and respects us, explains his morality, his compass. this speech was one hour -- or an average of about an hour. and i really enjoyed being spoken to like the intelligent and considerate american that i am. that could not be further from what i feel or i think what a lot of us feel when we see the president of the united states today. >> and shermichael doesn't it
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underline and you heard and remember the statement from the former first lady when they go low, we go high. her words here. and what if president trump increases or making -- or the lows go higher if you will. in other words the lowers go low, if could i say it that way. does president obama's message work with that counter language coming from president trump. >> i think it could, richard, and i think president trump will enjoy this. as we know, he's not fond of president obama and as we saw during his candidacy he attacked every single individual running against him and gave them nicknames that stuck with them. i predict he'll attempt to do the same with president obama but i think president obama is a very smart guy and what i expect is for president obama to not only talk to democrats, not only make sure that folks turn out on their side, but keep in mind there are some folks on the right, suburban white women for
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example, more college educated voters who have traditionally been republican and who may not necessarily like the antics and character flaws of president trump and so they may not vote for some democrats but they may sort of take a double look if you will at the republican. and so i think if president obama speaks directly to the moral and ethical conscious of those individuals, i think that he could begin to sort of help the democrats in ways that they haven't been able to see thus far. >> but gabriela, the moral and ethical issues are out there but to be old school for a second here, center right and center left, if you go back to the old dictum here, are you better than you were x years ago. so the economy is good. we saw the numbers on friday. what is the right balance here? >> i mean, i think that is -- yes, it is all about jobs and the economy. obviously president obama put us on a really good path in the economy which is why we're doing so well right now -- >> do folks remember that, though?
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>> i think so. but look, richard, bottom line and i think -- i they we all agree that what trump has been a master of is completely dividing this nation. he has not lied at all about who he is to these campaign rallies, to the people that go and actually support him for being immoral, bombastic and they feel like there is a raw quality of truth to that, right. what obama is doing is completely opposite. and that is his campaign message from day one which is stronger together. so there is the line in his speech where it said it is the politics of fear or the politics of hope. i felt hopeful for a little bit. and those entrenched with trump are never going to let him go. so sher michael is spot on, too. the president -- president obama has to speak to republicans as he always has done. >> and the three of us have more to talk about because with secretary clinton soon to hit the road, we have 60 days in
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controversy has been good for business at nike despite what president trump believes. he tweeted nike is getting absolutely killed with anger and boycotts. in reality, online sales are surging after the company made ex-nfl quarterback colin kaepernick the face of a new ad campaign. orders rose 27% between monday and wednesday at digital commerce research company. kaepernick's protest by kneeling during the national anthem angered many, including the president who is waging a public war against the movement. >> from colin kaepernick to the nfl, nike, who is going to win this cultural showdown of standing for the anthem. >> we are.
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>> i don't like what nike did. i don't think it's appropriate what they did. i honor the flag. i honor our national anthem and most of the people in this country feel the same way. >> let's bring in the sports editor with the nation. sports race and social issue for the "new york daily news." >> dave, so what is going to win? >> colin kaepernick already won. he's the face of nike on the 30th anniversary. >> with a couple of dollars in his pocket. >> more than a few. donald trump is attempted to engage in a racist disinformation campaign to make it about the anthem and not about what it's about which is kneeling to protest racial inequity. that's to the credit of not only colin kaepernick, but players consistent in arguing this is
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not about the anthem, but racial inequality and police violence. colin kaepernick has the younger generation. the people cheers for donald trump and they are not the people buying nike products and going to, i believe, support colin kaepernick through his trials and tripulations. >> what are we going to see tomorrow? it is a sunday. >> who knows what we will see tomorrow. colin kaepernick won this weeks and months ago. they came out with the mini two-minute movie. even came on the first night of the season. this already has been a win for kaepernick. he got money in his pocket and as you kind of pay attention to the count radio and how things are going, you can see piece by piece, people are seeing what's really going on. nobody in big companies don't want to be on the wrong side of history.
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>> leading off what you said, i will go back to you, dave. if you are thinking about this politically, if you issue thinking about the hearts and minds of young folk that can vote, what is most tactile for them? you have to decide between these messages from the president or the brands and the people that they may identify with more directly. >> it'sare inially like that is takes a corporation to legitimize a message, but i teach a community college class in the history of sports, they were wearing nike gear to class and treating the swoosh as if it was a symbol of justice and it legitimized the effort. all of the ups and downs and attacks from the president. the nike support shows that he was on the right side of history. it really does matter to the people who need to be energized this november. >> reflect on that. >> and when you think about
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this, it's a perfect marriage between kaepernick and the nfl and nike right now. nike has the contract from 2028 to 2029. if you think about nike's history, you go back to the 80s and how they picked up the tab for his shoes and how he broke the rules through charles barkley, i'm not a role model slogan in 1993 to lebron who refused to shut up and dribble to serena williams and her cat suit. they push the boundaries and the borders and it makes total business sense and social and cultural sense that the global company and the athlete who is maybe the biggest name in culture and politics and sports that we talk about today, that they have come together with the contract and the marriage. >> a match made in i guess on the football field is what you are saying. very quickly, will kaepernick
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get picked up this season? >> believe it or not, the nike ad makes it easier for owners to step up and say yes, i want this person on my team. >> i don't believe so. you think about his teammate, he still is one of the top safeties in the league. the fal cons lost their starting safety and they made that call to them. i don't think either one of the guys we will see them on the sidelines. >> we will see as this goes back and forth. thank you much. coming up on the next hour, more reaction from former president obama's speech in california today. the latest on the russia investigation and who is now saying she has information that could ruin trump's presidency.
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richard lui live. we will start with barack obama back in the political spotlight giving his second speech in as many days to boost democrats running in the november mid-terms. campaigning for senate congressional candidates, obama urged both parties to unite the country. >> we are in a challenging moment. because when you look at the ark of american history, there has always been a push and pull
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