of action. >> all right, elizabeth holtzman and elliot williams, thank you both for making time on this friday night. that is "all in" for this evening on a very, very, very busy friday news day. well, paul manafort's guilty plea today might be the single worst development if donald trump's life and in donald trump, jr.'s life. paul manafort what's in the room with him during the presidential campaign meeting that donald trump jr. arranged with a group of russians who promised dirt on hillary clinton. paul manafort promised to tell mueller every single thing in that room, every word that paul manafort can remember in that room and what he remembers might lead to the first federal criminal prosecution of the son of a president of the united

states. paul manafort could be the key witness in a days would be entitled the united states of america versus donald trump, jr. president trump could once again be identified as an unindicted co-conspirator if paul manafort and others can testify that candidate donald trump knew about that meeting and was a participant in a conspiracy to get dirt so the big news for anyone named donald trump, paul mueller has new witness a big witness, that is bigger news than that witness say figure court today, i plead guilty. paul manafort spent this week telling special prosecutor's team everything he knows about every crime he has committed or knows about. some of paul manafort's crimes were described by andrew

weissman. he was careful to point out that nothing he publicly described in court today includes anything that paul manafort has told the special prosecutor in his first week of cooperation with the special prosecutor. so there is a lot, lot more to come from paul manafort. we know the special prosecutor wreec reached this agreement because paul manafort has already provided and will continue to provide valuable information to the special prosecutor the moment that officially changed donald trump and donald trump, jr.'s lives came after paul weissman outlined the conspiracy, obstruction of justice, conspiracy against the occupation, judge amy jacquie said are you prepared to tell me now whether you wish to plead guilty and whether you wish to go to trial?

all manafort said i am and the court said what is your decision if and paul manafort said i am guilty. with that, every member of the trump campaign team charged with robert mueller pleaded guilty. every single one of them. robert mueller and his team are undefeat against the trump team and everyone in the trump team who was ever in a room with paul manafort or on the phone with paul manafort or sent and e-mail to paul mofanafort has to fall asleep wondering who is next? who can he hand over? leading our decision is a special prosecutor and msnbc contributor and former federal prosecutor, as rachel mentioned at the top, there was not a lot of smns left for him to plead

guilty. he could have just walked in there and sat back and hoped and waited for his pardon. but he didn't. he went all the way over the line and is now on team mueller. >> you fe what that says to me that says how untrustworthy donald trump is. his campaign adviser, his campaign chief couldn't rely on him for a pardon and had to take the chance of going with full disclosure to the prosecutor and cooperating. that's what it says to me. it's a big break because he's someone who was in at least several key meetings, including, of course, the june meet income trump tower, which has been a focus of the investigation and could it be a part of the conspiracy to work with russia on the campaign to effect the outcome of the election, so it's a very important time for mueller. as you pointed out, it is 100%

win for mueller and zero for team trump. >> your perspective on what we saw if court today. >> so lawrence, i think it's a hugely consequential turn of events for both the mueller investigation and for the president and his administration. when i got ahold of a copy of the flee agreement in the manafort case earlier today, i was looking for one phrase, i found it page 2, paragraph 3. let me read the legalese and talk about what it means. it says no other charges will be brought against the defendant, paul microsoft, for his heretofor disclosed participation in activity. in layman's terms what that means is the following, when we meet with a defendant who is a conspearing cooperating witness, we interview them over and over and over again, we frankly try

to wring dry the conduct of others and equally important the criminal conduct of mr. manafort, himself, the last thing -- i was a career prosecutor the last thing a prosecutor wants is there to be surprises a crime a cooperator committed before we are make the decision to bring them on board as a witness, there is a benefitor to the prosecutor when he provides that information about his own criminal conduct. we put a term like this in his plea agreement. it says as long as you have told us about other crimes you have committed, you get a pass. you basically get immunity because we rolled it into today's plea agreement he could have sat down and told all information about him, mr. manafort, personally, colluding with russians to undermine the election, card

fate tag with the president, with don jr., jared kushner, with others. i'm not saying he did. that we have to wait and see. if he provided that information that is probably what prompted robert mueller after the many meetings they had which we learned about if today's hearing, robert mueller to say, you know what, mr. manafort, you brought if you have value to the process as a cooperator, we are go him to give you a plea agreement even after you have been convicted in one of your criminal cases, paul, that leads me to conclude paul manafort must have blockbuster information. he's provided it to the special counsel, now we have to wait for the very next harm shoe to drop. >> to that point in general terms, certainly, in all these kind of agreements i have ever seen and witnessed in court the person the ting of that you vai

tend to be givingsoever someone bigger than themselves, it's someone above them in the cane of command of whatever enterprise they're in. it is of value still to hand over people who are kind of below you in that target list by prosecut prosecutors, but to glen's point, given how good a deal as you could describe it, how good a deal for paul manafort at the stage given how clearly guilty he s. you certainly got the feeling that something large has been handed over to robert mueller this week. >> i think we can assume that that is true. that it would either be jared kushner or donald trump, jr. or the president, himself. there is of course, i want to caution there is the possibility i'm willing to take responsibility. i'm willing to plead guilty to my own crimes, i don't want to pay for a defense, i don't want to make the government pay for

the prosecution and i'm just giving up, he's forfeiting almost all of his assets, his real estate. his bank accounts. so he may just feel like, well, that's what i'm doing. there may be nothing more. but given the language that was used in court in terms of the plea agreement, itself, i agree with glen that it is very likely he has told them quite a great deal. glenn is right. you wouldn't take a plea agreement unless you had a proffer of all the evidence the witness has before you agree to it. so i think we can look at many weeks of diskoes years and few indictments as a result of the and the investigations that will follow up on the details that he provided to them in the proffer leading up to the plea agreement. >> let's listen to some of the spin that rudy guiliani offered

on fox news tonight and then we will analyze what he had to say after we listen to this. >> the plea is to crimes that have to do with manafort's past, no involvement with president trump, no involvement with the campaign, no involvement with russia and, by the way, there is also no evidence of obstruction. there have been four gym pleas now, they're completely irrelevant. glen, your reaction to. that. >> you know, lawrence i heard this over and over again from either the president himself, or sarah huckaby sanders or mr. guiliani, they keep complaining and protesting with each guilty plea that's obtained, with each conviction that's obtained. they complain that that conviction, that guilty plea doesn't prove russian crucian and you know i can envision the three of them sitting if a movie theater and every trial i tiime watch a preview of coming

attraction, they complain, this is not the movie. we all know this is not the movie. we all know these cases that have been brought thus far by mr. mueller are not the russian collusion cases. but guess what the movie's coming and the movie will be when mr. mueller makes that decision whether to issue a report that ultimately will be released to congress about his findings or drop a great big conspiracy indictment on whoever may have par niticipated to undermine our presidential elections and obstructed by covering it up. >> that will be the movie. all of these other things are the previews of things to come. >> let's consider rouge rudy guiliani's defense, rudy guiliani says he's hanging his head if shame because the justice department has found

crimes and decided to prosecute those crimes. let's listen to this. >> my head hangs in shame for the department that i gave 16 years of my life to the department of justice, as a third ranking official in the department of justice when i could proudly say it was a department of justice the only thing that can be done now as relentless an investigation of all these people as they did to president trump. >> your retoaction to that in. >> my reaction is we have seen a march to the truth. we have seen cases build upon cases and each person who has pled guilty has been from the trump team and has said i committed crimes. one of them said if court under oath that he committed a crime at the direction of the president, himself. you can't get any better than that. and the fact that all of these

people have pled guilty shows how carefully mueller has proceeded and how he has developed the evidence. all you have to do is read the information that manafort pled guilty to today. it is a detailed layout of all of the things that he did, all the conversations he had, all the illegal transfers of money he had. mueller has fact. just like paula duncan concluded in the manafort trial, although she is a loyal trump supporter and says the investigation is a hoax and a witch hunt, but the evidence against manafort was real. those were facts and i voted to convict him on 18 counts and i am hoping that the american people will start to see the facts once mueller either issues an indictment that names higher ups or issues a report that names them and spells out in detail ba they have done wrong. that's when people will see the truth and will turn their

opinion and vote in the way that they should against the trump team who has mitted these crimes. >> rudy guiliani and the trump team forgive michael flynn completed guilty to committing crimes in the white house. thank you both for our discussion too. when we come back, paul manafort is the latest trump team member to plead guilty. but the first one who was in that trump tower meeting the first one to plead guilty wolves in the trump tower meeting, what happens now to donald trump jr., jared cush fer and everyone else who was in that meeting? that's coming up. cancer ... it's very personal.

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david, what does the mean to what we will be understanding eventually about that trump tower meeting? we have someone now from inside the meeting who we also know who was taking notes who is also cooperating with robert mueller? >> well, there is a difference between what we understand and what bob mueller will understand. bob mueller in theory will understand everything, who led up to the meeting. what happened at the meeting and what paul manafort knows of any follow up. remember, they have this meeting on june 9th and then oh about a month or so later the wikileaks implies an operation the dfc hacked e-mails. manafort went on tv and said the russians don't have anything to do with this. this is all a hoax. he started that line of defense when he had been in a meeting that had been set up the campaign said the kremlin had a plot a scheme to help the trump

campaign. so he'll tell bob mueller supposedly everything he knows on that front. the question is, does it lead to a prosecution or public information forbe us to find out at some point if time? >> craig unger, what do you think the special office will find out as a result of this plea? >> i think there are a couple clues in the document filed today if you pull them the this reds start -- threads start to unrafb el. one is if you look at the do you mean, you see that manafort laundered money through a company call the lucicle company well, that was tied to a game ivan person bhorks is partners with most the brains behind the russian mafia. and sydney and mogul a vis, they have been around trump 25 years. trump started lapdering money for the mafia through trump

properties in 1984 the fbi cased all over brooklyn and found they lived in trump tower. the russian mafia operations based in trump tower for many of these years. there is also a guy not mentioned by fame but position. if you will excuse my ukrainian, his real i'm in is sergei lobochken, and he was chief of staff to yanukovych. he, too, is a part of the circle. few look at what they're doing it gets to the root of the can dam is about is russian is a kleptocary, they are profiting enormously from the ukraine energy trade and they brought in manafort to back them up politically in ukraine. that's where the money comes from. >> david coren, this kind of --

craig's answer to that president etty simple question is extraordinary and shows you the kind of depth that's moble. that's the tip of the iceberg of what craig knows. robert mueller must be sitting on an even bicker iceberg at this point. >> i hate the iceberg cliche. i've use i'd it for the mueller probe, because time and time afen we've learned when he makes public filings he is looking at things or discovering things that we didn't even know existed. to me a big question here is in this investigation is whether mueller is digging deep into some of these financial issues. trump's finances are very opaque, not just about interactions with russia, just in general. big loans of deutsche bank. we don't understand the origin or why they exist. so that's the type of thing that mueller has a team assembled who specialize in white collar kriernlg money lapdering, they

could dig into and manafort might have some insit into. but we're still waiting to see. we know a lot of public signs yet, whether that is one big part of the probe or not. but if it is, you know, this could go on a long time and go much deeper tan just russia collusion. >> craig, what is your view of what kind of exposure donald trump personally has on the russian money laundering you described. is it possible that he didn't know who was buying these apartments and what money they were using to buy these apartment surface. >> well, it's absolutely possible. rather, it's very difficult to prove what he does know. i can't get inside his mind. but there is -- i'm not a lawyer, but there is a legal concept known as willful ignorance or blindness, when you look at the scale of the money laundering, buzzfeed reported there were 1300 condo, trump branded condos sold under conditions that appear to be

money laundering. i think a good prosecutor can make a case that was not random, it was a pattern and deliberate and done with knowledge. >> thank you both for joining our discussions tonight. coming up, "the new yorker" is claiming few details about the worcester that claims supreme court nominee brett caf faug sexually assaulted her in high school. the "new york times" has details on it. the republicans seem to think there is nothing to talk about here. that's coming up.

you confirm three times in a row and this is your fourth time and you should be confirmed here. never once were you attacked like this by anybody and i know you and the people who know you the best and that involves

hundreds of people think the world of you. >> and orrin hatch thinks the world of brett ckavanaugh -- and that is essentially the same defense that orrin hatch offered for clarence thomas, who faced accusations from afinita hill after it was over, there are no time limits on the process can take the senate judiciary committee reopened the clarence thomas hearings and heard from

anita hill after which clarence thomas was then confirmed by the senate 52-48. before anita hill testified clarence thomas was on his way to getting at least 80 votes in favor of his confirmation in the senate. the senate judiciary committee has the same option now the committee can slow down the process and reopen the confirmation hearing if judge kavanaughese accuser changes her mind and reveal herself publicly and testify about what she said in a confidential letter what brett kavanaugh did to her when they were in high school. the "new york times" and the "new yorker" reveals more, they report, in the letter the woman alleged that during an encounter at a party, kavanaugh held her down and that he attempted to force himself on her.

she claimed in a letter ka caf naupg and a friend were drinking, turned up music to conceal the protest, kavanaugh could have had her mouth with his hand. she was able to free herself. in recent months, she had told people his nomination revised the pain and was grappling with whether to go public with her story. california congresswoman anna eshoo passed that letter to senior senator diane fine teen, the "new yorker" reports the woman considered speaking publicly about her experience with brett kavanaugh but quote after the ber actions with eshoo's and feinstein's offices the woman decided not to speak about the matter publicly. susan collins had a pre scheduled hour long telephone

conversation with brett kavanaugh. they made no public comment. so what will the judiciary committee do next? after this break, we will be joined by jill winebanks and the chief counsel of nominations on the democratic staff of the senate judiciary committee.

kavanaugh put a hand over her mouth and held her down and attempted to force himself on her. she did escape. she said in her communications and her letter on the hill, this was a traumatic incident so much so she had to seek psychological treatment for it. >> chief country sell for the senate side a deputy attorney general in the department of justice, jill winebanks is back with us, lisa no one knows more about this process tan you do, what happens next in the senate judiciary committee? >> there is nothing stopping for grassley from reopening the hearings or providing more time. as you point out, there is no rule to requires this process to go so fast.

in fact, all these clarification this is an 11th hour investigation. the fact that kavanaugh was nominated july 10th, it was less than 60 days before these hearings began, they were quite rushed, given the controversies in his background the senate could have a closed session to consider this further. there could be time for this victim to come forward or other victims to come forward and there should be actually more time for the entire nation to learn more about brett kavanaugh, certainly, we know that numerous documents have not been provided and the documents thus far show he has been untruthful even though he testified under oath about several matters in the senate over the course and now and so i think there is more than enough reason to slow down and in fact stop this process from moving forward. >> jill, it is so extraordinary, lisa points out you can find things in brett kavanaugh's

testimony that are simply not true. and some people are calling them lies. i'm not sure what else you call them. but when you have a nominee woes credibility has already been very successfully challenged as a truth teller in that hearing and today he issues a statement denying these accusations, he's issuing that statement after a confirmation hearing has significantly weakened his credibility. >> yes. i agree with everything lisa said and with what you said and i appreciate your saying that there is no rule that forces this to go forward. we need to have a full investigation, we need to hold off a vote in the senate until there is time for a full exploration of this. if he is independent, nocent, w see that f. he is guilty, we need to see that the memos stolen from the democrats, he says, oh, i didn't know.

that doesn't ring true to me. there are a lot of issues besides this one that have been sort of shuffled under the rug and need to be explored. i would urge this woman. i know how hard it must be to come forward, but i really hope you will. i am pleading with you to come forward and speak out on this because there is so much at stake. the times are different now the "metoo movement has made you able to be heard and believed in a way that anita hill didn't have a chance for. so please come forward. let us hear the whole story of this. i also think it raises the issue of the time he clerked, he, kavanaugh, forco zin ski who left the bench because of sexual misconduct in his chambers. we need to know more about what kavanaugh knew i know he's denied he knew anything. but the only in was everywhere, people knew about it. how could he not have known, if he did know, why did he do

nothing? i think there are a lot of questions that need answering before the senate votes on this. >> lisa, there is criticism developing on both the democratic side, on the republican side, how senator feinstein has handled her end of it. given what we know about it, what is your view of how senator feinstein has handled this. >> i have to say this is almost the definition of being between a rock and a hard place. you have a victim who has come forward, asked for her information not to be shared and of course it's fess to honor her request for confidentiality. yet have you this significant allegation that bears on the ability of this man, the appropriateness of this man to be nominated to the supreme court. we know with history with anita hill we have someone on the supreme court there were questions of his sexual harassment. anita hill has been vindicated

yet we still have justice thomas on the court. so these are very serious matters, exactly why as jill said, there is no need to rush forward. we need to get to the bottom of. this quite frankly, it was a digital watergate what happened in the senate with the senate's own files being taken, stolen and given in many instances to brett kavanaugh. i do believe he lied about what he knew and when he knew it. i think it's quite clear to me based on that episode and in terms of his answers in 2004 and 2006 he lied under oath. that's one of the most serious things that can be alleged about a skwuj because the most important thing in this country is the that they be honest about the facts and the law and we have a man here who i think has demonstrated over and over again he's not honest about the facts in the law. the fact is that you can't just be someone who can cite cases off top of your head. what makes you a good young is you are fair and honest and not

just about the law but about the facts. i don't think brett kavanaugh has been offered the facts. i think it's important to believe woman that comes forward under these circumstance even if her identity is confidential. >> lisa, if you still had your old job at the judiciary committee, i am sure it would fallen to you to have a conversation somehow with this woman. what would you tell her in. >> i would tell her what jill toll her, which is that it's so important to come forward if you can possibly come forward, certainly, she would be attacked, senator grassley was also there at the time and he also attacked anita hill just like orrin hatch. but there are so many more women who have come forward, who would stand beside her, who would defend her against the scurrilous attacks of republicans who have been lining up against her, her character is her own possession. i know she would be surrounded by millions of other women who would stand by her. >> lisa graves, jill winebanks,

thank you for joining us. i appreciate it. >> thank you so much. when we come back, another bad news week for president trump ending as other weeks have with a guilty plea, but this week also ending with a challenge to his supreme court nominee. the kind of challenge we have not seen since clarence thomas' confirmation.

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just 53 days left until the mid-term congressional elections. now president trump's campaign chairman has pleaded guilty and become a cooperating witness and the supreme court faces a new accusation of sexual assault when he was a teenager. joining our discussion the republican strategist, how to find millennial's and urban voters. the republican party needs to survive. evan, from the republican perspective, the polling is about as bad as it gets. 538's congressional ballot average democrats 48.9%. republicans 39.8%. they say that's the highest the best number the democrats have had since trump has been in office. >> yes, it is. we have been having terrible weeks and part is due to the president and part of sit us not standing up to him as a government body and an accurate check. i have been going through voter

registrations comparing then to 2014 an 2010, i'm seeing a great enthusiasm among voters n. colorado, itself, new voter registrations are up 333%. >> how is that going by party in. >> more people are registering as democrats, more likely democratic voters, younger voters and women are registering outpacing pen. it's becoming a big problem. if colorado the republican party has lost registered voters the democrats have gained 23,000. you are seeing it in iowa, if minnesota, in pennsylvania. these are all states that require this. and i think that people are not really realizing that in addition to these suburban white women who are going to be voting against republicans and have already in special elections, in 2017, younger voters, especially millennial's will turn out. >> it seems like the brett kavanaugh story will certainly be with us next week and after that, because next week is just at the people the scheduled vote

in the judiciary committee there is still time after that before the vote on the senate floor. so we don't know what damage is going to be done to brett kavanaugh or to the republicans in the next week with that story. >> i mean, look at it this way, launches, if you are not a part of the basiest base for trump, what appeals to you these days from trump or the republican party? it's either chaos, unhinged tweets or you know you got the brett kavanaugh story which may or may not explode on the basis of these allegations. but that in and of itself only appeals to his evangelical base. if you are in the middle. if you had any doubts a lot of voters voted for trump if 2016, we're like i'm going to rom the dice, i don't like hillary, he's kind of wild. let me see what he does, those are not rushing to embrace the republican party the republican party doesn't exist anymore.

no kent ideology, no consistent agenda, except tax cuts for the rich. at this time trump party, evan, you are saddled with this, i know you don't want to be. this election is going to be referendum. the only thing republicans have going for them, two things, with is up gerrymander districts, one is voter suppression tactics. other than that, the wind and everything else is going against the gop. >> evan, the only known political strategy, if we can call it that, for a party when there are problematic investigations going against them on their side, is to simply stay absolutely silent about the investigations and talk about other things. donald trump can't stay silent about this investigation of him, his administration, his campaign and so the republicans out there who are trying to campaign and trying to avoid that subject get hit with it every day by donald trump. >> they do. but they haven't seen the tweets as the excuse goes. i think that republicans we are

trying to talk about other things, such as immigration as well as fire up the base saying we need to you turn out because we will be the check on the impeachment when democrats take the house and go unhengeed. i think a lot of the public tuned out the investigation. it's very intrik. at the same time they're looking at the economy the republicans are trying to boast off of. they're not dealing the xi, there is a disconnect between how great the economy is and people are doing, when you ask are you better off a year ago tan two years ago? most say they are the same or worse off. it's the high teens they say they're not better a if they are not a republican party of the base. it's also with the tax cuts, we don't have much to hang our hats on other than neil gorsuch. with the brett caf fakavanaugh hearing, i need the woman to come forward. we saw it happen with roy moore, we were able judge his accuser's credibility. until i hear that and until i see that dianne feinstein

unredacts the fame, i'm skrep e skeptical. >> it isn't up to diane fine stein, she's under a pledge of the woman to do that. there isn't a version of anything working for the democrats including this rushed confirmation hearings. >> you mean the republicans. >> the rushed process for supreme court justice. >> mid-term elections, you know this launches, are an amalgamation of a series of local elections, local personalities the candidates and local issues have a big role to play a dominant role to play. they come if over arching narratives. go with the wend or against the wind. right now the republican versus no narrative other than what's up with trump. that doesn't work for them. >> thank you boat for joining us tonight. tonight's last word is next. wha,

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time for tonight's last word. >> trump has had major problems with the department of justice, mainly the justice part. but here's the thing, they don't think anyone can get confirmed if sessions needs to be replaced and on top of that, no one in the gop wants the job. when asked about it, senator john cornyn said, we already have an attorney general. i love my job. lindsey graham responded, no, i like being a senator.

there are plenty of more qualified people than me, bunches of them, thousands. and rand paul replied, was ist das attorney general? i am hans. no opinions. i leak that hans