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ns. is the world ready for me? through internet essentials, comcast has connected more than six-million low-income people to low-cost, high-speed internet at home. i'm trying to do some homework here. so they're ready for anything. that wraps up this hour of msnbc live. i will be back here at 2:00 eastern time. right now it is time for a.m. joy with my friend and colleague joy reed. i have fantastic people. paul manafort just came on. he's great. >> paul manafort has done an amazing job. >> paul manafort was replaced long before the election took place. >> you know, he worked for me for a very short period of time. literally for like, what, a couple of months. little period of time. >> manafort has nothing to do
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with our campaign. >> good morning and welcome to a.m. joy. for the past two years we have been talking with you about russia-gate and the ties trump's former associated had to the kremlin during his 2016 election. over time we have seen more and more people in trump's camp fall. there is michael flynn who pleaded guilty to lying to the fbi. rick gates pleaded guilty to conspiracy. george papadopoulos. all men who are now cooperating with robert mueller. this week mueller may have nabbed his biggest fish yet when he got the cooperation of former trump campaign chairman paul manafort. trump's long-time attorney and fixer is also talking to mueller. all men are committed to cooperating with federal
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prosecutors. and now as trump's circle of trust continues to shrink, it seems like all that's left is family. joining me now is the found of dcreport.org, staff writer at the atlantic. all right. let's talk about this because there has been probably no one more defenseive of donald trump than alan who is saying, no, no, no. he's fine legally. here he is on "meet the press" earlier today talking about the manafort deal. >> this was a very bad day for the trump administration. it's bad because he doesn't know what manafort is saying, and he can't count on manafort saying only things that the special counsel already knows.
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when you don't know what a cooperator is saying, then it is a bad day for you because you are vulnerable and exposed. >> it is interesting to see him make the pivot. >> yeah. yeah. he's maybe off the legal team, right? he's right. it's terrible for trump. if this stuff happened, manafort was the point person. what i have noticed, and this goes to how scared trump is. what i have noticed is that trump really hasn't come down the mountain on twitter about this, right? >> right. >> number one, there are a couple of reasons. one he could just not know. i mean, who wants to go tell that the eastern front has fallen. two, he could be in puerto rico looking for the real killer. that's a possibility. but three is that he's activity scared of what manafort knows, what manafort will say and manafort might not even have any incentive anymore to tell the truth. like he might say everything that he did was ordered by trump. that may or may not be true.
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trump has ever reason to be flig frightened at this point. and by his twitter account, i think he is. >> there is a couple of different ways that manafort could be dangerous to trump. key questions: did the trump campaign have a head's up about the alleged hacking of democrats. did donald trump know about that meeting with the russian lawyer inside trump tower? and what do manafort's other business ties to russia mean? in addition to that, if he could answer questions not just about trump and team trump, but it could be bad news for a number of other washington operatives. >> right. as we saw from the criminal information filed against manafort on friday, there is a lot in there about people he worked with who also did not register as foreign agents and could be in trouble with the law. i think he is extremely dangerous to the president at this point. he entered the campaign at pivotal moment when it was the beginning of the significant russia related episodes. i don't think that was a coincidence.
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i think paul manafort was the person on the campaign with the most high level deep connections to russians and russian oligarchs at that point. and whether or not that was a reason why he actually came on the campaign is going to be another big question. whether it was just a coincidence that, you know, at the same time that he entered the campaign, a month later george papadopoulos was meeting with a man who knew about hillary clinton's e-mails. then there was the dnc hack. then there was, you know, the platform change at the rnc. all of these things are going to be what mueller is really interested in. i think it's really funny that giuliani and sara sanders have come out and said, oh, well, this has nothing to do with the campaign. he's not going to tell mueller about anything related to the campaign. that's not what the plea agreement says. it says the cooperation agreement says it is anything and everything that mueller finds relevant. that's not only as it relates to the special counsel, but also
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law enforcement authorities outside of the special counsel. >> as long as the special counsel wants him to talk. he has to keep on talking. by the way, business insider saying it is not a close call. experts say it's bogus. rudy giuliani told business insider that paul manafort's cooperation does not include an agreement to share information about trump. you are a lawyer, right? >> i am a lawyer. >> sorry to all those disappointed. but he is a member of the profession. we love lawyers. just kidding. is donald trump maybe finally listening to his lawyers? because he isn't tweeting about manafort? >> i will be honest. usually when things are this bad for trump, he's filing for bankruptcy. if trump announced there is a summit out of the country. i don't want to oversell what manafort might know. the june 30th e-mails said this is part of russia and its
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government's help for your father and if donald trump, and donald trump has said i didn't know about those e-mails until last year. i didn't know about that meeting until last year. if paul manafort said i sat with donald trump jr. and donald trump before the meeting and donald trump said, hey, go to that meeting right there and find out what they have, then you have at least on its face coconspiracy to violate federal election commission laws. and then in july when donald trump russia, are you listening, and we know he knew that russia was trying to help him, then we've got more elements of coconspiracy to the 49 states of america, which is what the russia military operatives were charged with and on the day donald trump said that, russian operatives went after hillary's e-mail. this one piece of information when you are building these cases, this could be key. >> not only that, in order for paul manafort to make those disclosures to donald trump, he would only have to go upstairs. this meeting took place in trump
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tower. the president was home. >> well, remember, there were two blocked phone calls that were made that the republicans in the house intelligence committee were unwilling to find out what those numbers are. this isn't just donald trump who is worried here. both jared kushner and don jr. who are likely indictment targets down the road must be very worried about what actually went on in that meeting. remember, they told seven different stories now. each one undoing the previous story. when you lie that much you know what really went on is much more serious. >> let's listen to don jr. i think you also said yet when we did the round table of who was in the most jeopardy, you said don jr. let's listen. >> your father has denied reports that he's worried that you might be in legal jeopardy because of the mueller investigation. but are you scared you could go to jail. >> i'm not because i know what i
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did and i'm not worried about any of that. that doesn't mean they will try to create that. but, again, i'm not. >> your thoughts? your witness. >> what do you want him to say? right? i'm terrified. my pants are wet. right? you're not going to say that. look, i would -- my mother would not put me in this kind of jeopardy, right? >> yeah. but his father would. >> that's the problem. >> his father would. that's a huge problem for don jr. obviously manafort's next -- i think mueller's next targets are going to be don jr. and jared kushner. there is a reason those guys haven't been interviewed. there is a reason they haven't been brought in. everybody that mueller wants to not charge has talked to mueller. everybody that mueller is still thinking about charging hasn't talked to mueller. that's the key. that's an actual piece of evidence that shows us where mueller is pointing. >> is the way this works from a legal standpoint that they talk to everyone and by the time they
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interview the real targets they already know the story and then they test what you say against what they say. >> i hate this particular analogy because i abhor violence, but it is tightening the noose, right? you start off really wide and get smaller and smaller and smaller. >> if you are in the end game, you are the target. >> if you have had trump in your last name, you haven't been interviewed yet, that would scare the people with trump in their last name. >> as a prosecutor, you don't want to interview someone until you know the answers to the questions because you can get them with lying and perjury. >> and one of ken star's last interviews was bill clinton. so you wait until the end. >> that reminds me actually of roger stone. >> he's also not been, yeah. >> close confidant of paul manafort since the 1970s. if there was a channel that stone was communicating with the trump campaign, it was likely through paul manafort.
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>> one of the first clients of the firm was donald trump. i love that donald trump bought in cash -- manafort bought in cash a condo from paul manafort for over $3 million. it is one of the assets that now mueller has is manafort's condo in trump tower. so mueller now owns a condo in trump tower. >> they should run it from there. i have to bring that back because you have done a lot of background on the family because part of what looks like it happened, your book, that donald trump was using those condos as a way for russians to invest, get their money out of russia and into the united states. >> absolutely. there are buildings in florida that trump has and elsewhere. donald has done this all throughout his career. when the late great wayne barrett was the first reporter to get on him in the '70s, donald tried to bribe him with an apartment in trump tower. >> i have to play this now. this is donald trump jr.'s gma
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interview. he's talking about -- it almost sounds like an episode of the "sopranos." here's don jr. >> i think there are people in there that he can just. it is a much smaller group than i would like it to be. >> who do you trust? >> i'll keep that to myself. >> and they're not family? >> i'm talking outside of family. i think that one goes without saying. >> is it down to the -- in the white house there is just family and then there's who? and steven miller. >> i was going to say. there's family and there's mitch mcconnell. i feel like they're buds. at some point i think jared's position becomes interesting, right? jared has a lot of exposure in terms of lying on various forms, not being entirely truthful. he's similarly situated to jeff sessions and why jeff sessions has to recuse and he's an inlaw. there is a clip somewhere about giuliani talking about, oh, if you go after jared, that's one
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thing, but you don't go after ivanka. giuliani has suggested that maybe jared could be thrown over. i think trump jr. is in the most danger, but if you want another person who might be -- who might not be in that circle of trust, i would start looking at jared. >> one of the issues that will come up is, remember, his effort to use the russians diplomatic communications to secretly contact the kremlin. could you imagine what would happen if someone in obama or george w. bush or clinton proposed that? >> let's not forget what was in charge of the whole social media operation? >> right. that is another area where jared is vulnerable. he knows a lot about whether or not there was some coordination between the data operation and the russians. >> or maybe the russians just know that michigan is a key state and pennsylvania, which districts to go after. maybe they just know a lot about american political geography. you never know. you're now free. free to go.
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thank you very much. dean, your weekend is still ruined. you can't leave. we will talk with you guys more in the show. and she's a hero of the resistance, a lightening rod for the right and a frequent target of donald trump's attacks. after the break, she joins me live. your moment of maxine, yes, is next. does this map show the peninsula trail? you won't find that on a map. i'll take you there. take this left. if you listen real hard you can hear the whales. oop. you hear that? (vo) our subaru outback lets us see the world. sometimes in ways we never imagined. my dbut now, i take used tometamucil every day.sh
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they like to use the impeach word, impeach trump. maxine waters, we will impeach him. but he didn't do anything wrong. it doesn't matter, we will impeach him. we will impeach. how do you impeach somebody that's doing a great job, that hasn't done anything wrong. hour economy is good. how do you do it? how do you do it? >> well, i suspect maxine waters has an answer to that question. she joins me now. good morning, congresswoman. >> good morning, joy. good to be with you. >> great to be with you as well. so let's talk about this issue. donald trump loves to go after you on the campaign stump. he has now worked in this line about that you are leading a drive to impeach him if republicans don't turn out. here is a new poll from the washington post abc news. it looks like the american people are moving in your direction. 49% of all adults say begin
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impeachment hearings. that's a pretty strong coralty on your side on this issue. do you think we're at a point now where republicans need to change their minds about having impeachment be unthinkable or is this something democrats only would do? >> there are republicans that will not continue to stand with him. this president has displayed the most despicable behavior that any human being could do. and certainly as a president of the united states, he has disappointed millions of people. and so he's not a role model for our children. he is a liar. he's a con man. he's deceitful. he makes up stories day in and day out and despite the fact that the 1% who will gain mightily from the tax cuts may continue to support him because of the profits that they will make, but i think the average
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human being, the average american, even many of those who are republicans, cannot stand to have this president represent us in this world any longer. and so when it will be, i don't know. but it is, you know, possible. and he's trying to frighten them by saying this black woman who has no reason to talk about impeachment keeps talking about impeachment. well, he's not only trying to frighten them, but he's trying to bring out that constituency of his who do not like black people anyway, so i'm not worried about that. let him continue to say whatever he would like to say. i think the dots are getting closer to being connected. i think that manafort is going to play a big role in this. i think our special counsel is doing a good job. and in the final analysis, i think that we will understand
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how he and his allies and all of those who have been, you know, wanting trump to lift the sanctions so that they can all benefit from drilling for oil in the arctic are going to be discovered. they're going to be indicted in my own estimation. >> do you believe that the house intelligence committee, which issued a report basically exonerating donald trul mp on issues related to the campaign can reconvene, for instance, subpoenaing the blocked calls made from trump tower on the day of the trump tower meeting. perhaps even trying to call in the lawyer, at least trying to call new hearings in light of the fact that you now have cooperation from two key figures close to donald trump, cohen and manafort? >> absolutely. and i think that the congress of the united states has been totally irresponsible in over
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site on this issue. the hearings have not been credible. they have not been thorough. they have been closed down without having done a good job. and, yes, if the congress of the united states wants to exercise its constitutional responsibility, we will have hearings and we will take up the information that is now being displayed and talked about with manafort and with the rest of those who are involved. roger stone has got to be brought before the congress of the united states. he knows a lot about what is going on. and, yes, you are absolutely correct. we should be having those hearings. >> congresswoman, you are the ranking member of the financial services committee. democrats don't talk about this a lot, but there are a rot of very popular democrats with the base of the democratic party like yourself and adam schiff who would back chair of those committees if democrats take the house. if you get the gavel of the
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financial services committee and become the chairwoman, will you subpoena donald trump's tax records? >> if i get to become the chair of the financial services committee, and i'm very hopeful that i will be chair, i will exercise the chairmanship in a very responsible way. i will make sure that we are carrying out our responsibility in ways that may touch donald trump, ways that will unveil what's going on in the treasury department. as a ranking member, i have -- i would have, i have had the responsibility for helping to guide the democratic caucus on these financial services issue. and as chairman, i will have the responsibility not only for the treasury but the fdic, the occ, the scc, all of these regulatory agencies. and if there is information that is going to be unveiled about what has been going on in the
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white house or donald trump or the treasury, it will come out. i will be very responsible in doing that. i am not looking to make up stories or to create ways by which to trap anybody. i will just do my work as a member of congress and as a chairman if i am able to become the chairperson of that committee in a responsible way. and then let things fall where they may. >> couple of questions for you. first of all, stay for a moment on the issue of impeachment. this is nbc news reporting. it's no coincident the top three leaders were all there in 1998 when bill clinton was impeached and are all quiet about impeachment now. they remember the energizing effect it has on their voters. what do you make of that
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argument? >> let me just say that. i think that what i have done and what i have said about impeachment helped to bring that discussion to light. and i know that there are members of the leadership who are saying let's not talk about impeachment. let's just talk about our democratic issues and our agenda. we can walk and chew gum at the same time. we continue to talk about our issues. and democrats have always been for saving social security, making sure we have co comprehensive health plan, support of obamacare. we talked about medicare for all. we have talked about the infrastructure, creating an infrastructure to repair our roads and bridges and create jobs and contracts. look at what's happening up in flint. the water systems are still not repaired. so these are our issues. housing, homelessness. we can talk about that and we can talk about donald trump. we should not be satisfied to be quiet about him. he is deplorable, despicable.
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he should not be the president of the united states of america, and i don't think in the final analysis people is going to -- people are going to allow him to continue. >> and the question to you, congresswoman, your fellow california senator, the senior senator has taken a lot of criticism for the handling of the brett kavanaugh allegation. there was a woman that made anonymous allegations. here is what the man running against diane said. her performance underscores how she has historically demonstrated she's not willing to take the fight to republicans. she has been very passive in her approach regarding the most important sfreem court nominee in a generation, showing a huge detachment to women's experiences in many communities. do you believe that dianne feinstein made a mistake not sharing that information that
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she had with her colleagues or questioning brett kavanaugh himself about those allegations when she had him right there in those hearings? >> i think this is the most unfortunate situation. first of all, i do think that the information has been held too long, and i think there is a question about what does it mean to receive information that's confidential that you can't use? i think that the information was given to a member of the house of representatives who then turned it over to dianne feinstein. she had said that she tried to maintain confidentiality. but what good does the information do if the woman won't come forward, if we can't unveil the information, if it can't be shared with anybody? i don't know how it could be helpful. so i think this has been an unfortunate situation altogether. i can understand why maybe she was hesitant. maybe she did not understand what she should do with confidential information and
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while i'm not absolutely criticizing her on that, if i had had that information, i think that i would have treated it differently. if i had any criticism at all for dianne feinstein, it was because she apologized to brett kavanaugh for protesters who came to that hearing to let people know that they were very concerned about this nominee and that they wanted the members of the democratic party and the judiciary committee to take him on and to force the answers from him. if i had any criticism at all, it would be about basically apologizing for protesters. protesters are just following what the constitution allows us to do, and that is to speak up and to have a voice in this democracy. >> maxine waters, i know you have been enjoying the annual conference. i'm missing out on it. have fun for me down there. thank you so much, congresswoman. >> thank you so much.
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trump administration under a judge's order, of the 2,654 migrant children taken from their parents under trump's zero policy policy between april and july of this year, 211 are still separated from their families. that includes six kids who are under five years old and 165 kids whose parents have already been deported. that's such a fraction of a total number of kids still being detained at immigration centers around the country. according to "the new york times," population levels at shelters for migrant children reached a total of 12,800 this month. up from 2,400 one year ago. that's nearly 13,000 children fleeing from some of the horrific conditions. we'll stay on this story. more a.m. joy after the break. i'm ken jacobus, i'm the owner of good start packaging.
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trump has killed those people twas. once through neglect and over sight and secondly disgracing that they died at all. that's what all these denial syndromes are all about, is killing the person twice. if they're not voters and they're not white, he doesn't give a darn. that's what this is also about. these people are not recognizable as americans, as human beings in his eyes.
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>> donald trump's completely basis and bizarre questioning of the death toll in puerto rico has caused at least some republicans to take a step away from him, including some in florida who are trying to fend off some democratic opponents in november. like rick scott, who is challenging bill nelson for a senate seat and even now former representative ron desantis who ran an ad showing him to love trump with toys and a pro trump bed time story. thank you all very much. i'm going to go to my florida pal on this one first because i just want to remind people. when you hear ron desantis taking a step away from donald trump on everything, you need to
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remember this add because this is who ron desantis wants you to believe who he is. >> everyone knows my husband is endorsed by president trump. but he's also an amazing dad. ron loves playing with the kids. >> build a wall. >> he reads stories. >> then mr. trump said, you're fired. i love that part. >> he's teaching madison to talk. >> make america great again. >> people say ron is all trump, but he is so much more. >> big league, so good. >> so that's desantis one. ron desantis is committed to standing with puerto ricans. what do you think? >> well, let's state the obvious first, joy. they didn't grow a conscious overnight or develop courage long lost in reaction to this
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tweet. this is purely about the political considerations of what they are now coming to realize along with every other republican, not just in florida but across the country. a vote for a republican candidate in these midterm elections is a vote for donald trump and a vote for the extremist policies that have basically unmoored america over the last two years. as much as they are trying to desperately scurry away and say oppose donald trump, it is simply not going to work because of not only the ads you have seen but what we have seen built over the last two years. i don't think it can stated enough. what motivated trump to write that tweet talking about the 3,000 deaths that he said never happened, we'll never know. it is either mental deteriorati deterioration, but it is also the dehumanization of a group of people in the united states of which i consider myself one, hispanic americans. he has called us animals. he is now trying to deny the
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death of many american citizens who live with great dignity. and this is sending a sinister message to trump's base. these are not people or animals. these things didn't happen. it is modern day holocaust now. >> at the same time that donald trump is doing that in a republican party that ever since george w. bush has had this numbers game they're trying to play. the majority of mexican americans, two-thirds vote democratic. among smaller groups, they used to have a majority. and in florida, it's three card monte because you also have a purr toe ree con community growing really quickly in the crucial corridor that's numerically large and could get larger every time people come from the island to the mainland. so they have to play this game. you have ron desantis courting voters in puerto rico in august, going there to stump for those
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votes. they have to do both, right? they have to say we want to build a wall for these voters, but we like these. >> for latinos across the country, yet again it is another moment where it is so clear and it is really hard as a journalist to have to say this, right, but from a journalistic perspective based on the words coming out of this president's mouth and the policies that follow, we are in a moment where it's like, whoa, no seriously.h americans their passports. they're just denying. they're saying, that's not true that you were really born here. >> show me your midwife. >> show me your midwife's paper, et cetera. >> i actually tweeted saying it looks like this president doesn't care about our lives. whether we are in cages, freezers or whether we are dead in puerto rico.
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we have been denied, our existence negated. for us it is the shock of making the connections. also because money from fema was into ice. we will put them in immigrant detention facilities that ultimately are going to make money for people. >> right, for a private prison company. >> for the rest of the country, it is a learning opportunity to open your eyes to what is happening and to not be shocked that this is happening. it is real. and therefore protect your latino brothers and sisters and people of color in this country. we need that support from each other. >> at the same time, there is the human imperative. for your former political party, for the republican party, they know that. it doesn't really change their behavior. but they do also want these votes. you know, they love to taut that donald trump got 27% of the hispanic vote in the election. rick scott got a minority of
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hispanic votes but enough to sneak over the line to become governor. now you have the two men running to replace him. gillum is up. he's up a lot. that's outside the margin of error. he is walking away -- you know, it's not over until it's over. but he has strong support from people of color, including hispanic voters in florida. that is a reality. if compassion doesn't move them, those numbers are real. >> and this is the entire republican party right now. we will see this play out in november when almost all these republicans get wiped out in the midterm and you are going to see more turnout from minority parties and larger disparity between the republican and democrats and how they play with minorities. it is because of stuff like this. but it's a pattern of behavior. when charlottesville happened, trump says good people on both sides. republican put out statements and go away and hide and pretend like it didn't happen. looking at what happened with this ridiculous comment about
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3,000 people dead, they say the right thing, but then they go away. i don't see ron desantis or rick scott on tv talking about this today. i don't see them trying to push back on this. they have a staffer put out a statement so they can say, hey, we checked that box. we said it was wrong and then they go away and hide from it again. it keeps happening over and over again. people aren't stupid. they realize this is a racist party. i don't know why any person who is not a white person would vote for a republican right now. >> before we go because you are my numbers guy, can rick scott survive or ron desantis survive walking away from donald trump because it is much more white americans. if they are pushing away from the president, that could reduce turnout on their side. >> that's exactly it. it is the tight rope walk without a safety net underneath. to give rick scott credit, he has run an excellent campaign
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trying to engage the hispanic electorate. the polls show he is close with bill nelson because of the outreach that he's doing. this couldn't have come at a more opportune time for him. he did the dance, but then he retreated back because of your point. he cannot risk alienating trump voters that will either stay home or do something else that could imperil his vote. >> we're out of time. >> real quick, look, joy, those people who died in puerto rico are americans patriots. we need the puerto rican voters to understand that they have to register to vote. >> thank you. thank you guys very much. if your last name is trump or you are married to a trump, you may not be pleased with this
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the message that no one is above the law. we now face an opponent who voted for donald trump, who doesn't share our values, and now is not the time for a trump supporter to be in the office of attorney general. >> the next new york attorney general will have the unique power to investigate donald trump's businesses, personal finances and his rather murky charitable foundation all of which are based in new york. on thursday new york city advocate tish james won the primary setting her up to be in a prime position to hold trump, his family and friends accountable. significance of this race. tisch james, she's gone for fox news. she's pretty formidable. >> she's uniquely positioned. this is home to his family and friends and businesses. i want to say she's in good
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company. this is his home but then you have where he currently lives, the d.c. attorney general, carl racine, who's going off him for the immoll u meants clause and shaun shaw is pledging to go back after his businesses. he calls mar-a-lago little moscow. so i think the president is going to be surrounded on all sides by attorney generals. it shows how the resistance is playing out on a local, state and federal level in this primary. >> what's interesting is it seems like a belated obama reaction. there was a belief of people running and winning elections. now we've gotten the president-elected. it seems like there was a delay. >> yes. >> the backlash to the backlash is now you have a position of two people of color sitting in ag spots in florida and new york who would be bedevilling donald trump.
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how ironic? >> you have doug chin, the ag in hawaii, on the front lines of his travel ban and was successfully able to squash some of the parts of the travel ban. you have javier fighting against obama care and he's fighting the dlj for going after some of the tech companies for saying they're biased against conservatives. he's right out front on that going after sessions saying, hey, i want to be at the table when you have a conversation about this. you see this playing out at the ag level. to your point about mid terms and candidates, this new slate of candidates we have, they have a great opportunity here to completely influence and change the culture and image of american government. i think you're going to see that in congress, i think you're going to see that in some of the state legislatures and we're already seeing it in some of the state races. >> tisch james has already now won -- she's poised to win statewide office. her opponent is an unknown
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african-american but the new york ag is -- snyderman was the lead, so tisch james is actually positioning herself to be a national figure. >> completely, and her predecessor snyderman had been targeting donald trump long before he got into the office of donald trump before the presidency. i think tisch james is going to be a national figure along with the other attorney generals and i think you're going to see the way that she works in the ag level, you're going to see her have some strong allies in congress as well. if the house flips, then that subpoena power is going to come back to a lot of democrats. i think eli ga cummings has a big pile on his desk ready to go. >> all of those ranking members -- >> maxine waters. >> they don't talk about it a lot. maxine waters is sitting in a ranking member seat. adam schiff is sitting in a ranking member chair in the house intel. why don't they talk about who would be elevated? >> i do think they try but
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people get mad when i say this. i'm not talking about the audience, i'm not talking about the audience watching joy reid, but a lot of people don't pay attention to the minutia. we thought this was going to happen during the obama administration. a lot of people felt like we have barack obama, we'll be fine. white people are just now starting to pay attention. it's not just that the democrats aren't talking about it, the media isn't paying attention. >> amen. fair point. a lot of it would have happened if some people had voted in 2010, 2014 instead of waiting for barack obama to work miracles. more "am joy" after the break. carla is living with metastatic breast cancer, which is breast cancer that has spread to other parts of her body. she's also taking prescription ibrance with an aromatase inhibitor, which is for postmenopausal women with hormone receptor-positive her2- metastatic breast cancer
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a search warrant describes more of what was found. hello, i'm heather haze. >> i'm steve. among the items listed in the document are cartridge casings, a backpack with police equipment and marijuana. welcome back to "am joy." that report from a local fox affiliate sparked outrage this week and outrage that the media and police are trying to smear botham jean. the 26-year-old black man who was gunned down by an off duty officer. last week jean, a 2016 college graduate who worked at price
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waterhouse coopers and was a song leader in his local church was shot and killed in his home by dallas police officer amber guyger. she told police that she mistook jean's apartment for her own and that the door was ajar. guyger sayings when she entered she saw a silhouette and said she thought she was being burglarized. a lot of people are raising questions about her story which has shifted on details. two people reported hearing knocking and a woman's voice saying, let me in before the shooting. guyger was arrested on manslaughter charges three days before she killed jean and is now free on bail. now botham jean's family wants to know why police are treating him as if he were the culprit instead of the victim. >> to have my son smeared in such a way i think shows that there are persons who are really nasty, who are really dirty and are going to cover up for the
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devil, amber guyger, and i want to find out whether the toxicology reports on amber has been released because she was the murderer. >> joining me now is esley merit, attorney for botham jean. i apologize for my pronunciation. i think the thing that outraged people the most about this is his apartment was searched and the release of information of drugs being found in the apartment. is that the normal course of business and what is the family's comment on that? >> it's not the normal course of business if you are investigating a non-police officer. if you're investigating a normal suspect and you believe they committed a crime as serious as murder, then the warrants you execute will produce evidence probative of that crime. the fact that the detectives sought a warrant and it's very
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important. it's not just what they found in the home or alleged to have found in the home. they sought a warrant looking for evidence of drug paraphernalia or other criminal activity. that's what they went to a judge and asked for. and that evidence would not be probative of the crime that they were investigating at all. they could only serve one person which would be to smear the image of botham jean. >> let's clear up a couple of other things. did mr. jean know ms. guyger? >> there's no evidence we have that he knew ms. guyger. we've talked to his friends, his family who he was close to. we've checked phone records. we don't believe the two knew each other at all. >> was there to your knowledge ever a noise complaint or any other interaction between the two of them in terms of complaints from guyger to jean? >> we haven't been able to
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confirm the noise complaints. there was a noise complaint to his home that day. after speaking with the office managers, they weren't able to nail down where the noise complaint came from. it may have originated from administration versus a resident. >> is it true that ms. guyger lived directly below mr. jean. >> she did live directly below him. that part is true. >> and is the family aware of whether her apartment had a doormat? because his apartment had a bright red, very distinctive doormat. >> her apartment did not have a doormat. it certainly didn't have a red one. there was no doormat there at all. there were other indicators such as the floor number being displayed on the wall and the hallways being distinctly different because each apartment complex generally had a doormat in front of it that would have distinguished her floor from his floor. we don't believe that she accidentally ended up in his apartment. his door wasn't coincidentally on the apartment on the day she accidentally decided to
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accidentally walk into his apartment. we believe that to be false. >> and the door being ajar or not ajar has been a tricky thing to follow. it seems that ms. geiger's story has changed to the door was locked and the key wouldn't work to the door being ajar. to your knowledge, are those doors in that apartment being capable of being left ajar without being propped open by something? >> no, those are fire doors. they have a sure slam. they slam shut every time you hold them open. each version of her story neither made sense. in the first version of the story she was playing at the door. he swung it open and surprised them. the second version was really strange. the version captured by the rangers said it was ajar, which it couldn't be, and then that she used the force of her key to swing the door open. the doors swing open, they slam shut. they don't swing open. >> and lastly before i bring in
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the panel. was mr. jean in the habit of leaving his apartment unlocked? >> no. he was a very meticulous accountant. he paid very close attention to detail and his safety was a priority for him. he had a routine. he came into the door. he had a bowl right next to the door where he dropped his keys in. he wouldn't have been the type to leave it unlocked or ajar. >> would you mind staying with us? i want to bring the panel in. would you mind? >> please. >> tiffany cross still with me and joining us is msnbc eric diggins and the police chief of ferguson, missouri. >> mr. merit, i love that investigators have downloaded the electronic data from the door locks, but i'm wondering what if anything was that reveal and when do we expect to get the results? >> sure. that's going to be very important information. it captured not only mr. jean's door but also miss guyger's door as well. every time the key is used
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successfully, every time it's used successfully it leaves an electronic footprint. they should know whether amber guyger entered her apartment prior to entering mr. jean's apartment. they won't be able to tell if the door was left open unfortunately. if she in fact went to her apartment first, they will be able to capture that information. >> i want to bring in dellrish mars, police chief of ferguson. i know of what you speak, sir. walk me through this. is it normal after a police officer shoots someone, in general, not commenting on your particular police department, but in general is it normal for police to search the home of a decede decedent, of the deceased person, to look for drugs? >> well, i think in this case the reason for the search of the zeed dent's home is because that's where the actual shooting took place. one of the things you can do is go in and look for proof of
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whatever you think might have led up to the shooting. this is a homicide investigation and so on a homicide investigation you will search the place where the actual shooting took place. >> is it normal to share the results of that search with the media? >> typically what happens is that you file an information with the clerk's office basically saying these are the things we found. a lot of journalists, i noe specially with the miami herald, they go to the clerk's office and get that which is public record. now actually going out and sharing it is not something that we normally do, but having it available where it's public record is the normal course of business. >> and it does seem that ms. guyger has told a number of stories of what happened that night. how quickly after a shooting are police officers typically required to file an official statement of what actually happened? >> one of the things that happens, this becomes a criminal investigation so just like the ordinary citizen, the police officer has the rights afforded
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by miranda. so in some cases a police officer shoots and someone dies, they can't be forced to give a statement. if they're forced to give a statement then it's not admissible in court. >> let me go to eric. the other outrage this week, not only the fact that mr. jean's home was searched, this information that drugs was found was released. it seemed to be a way of making him look like he was a suspect, he's in his own house. the media's role in this. the fact that the fox affiliate tweeted this out. what did you make of that this week, eric? >> well, what's interesting to me about this, it does remind me a bit of what happened when trayvon martin was killed so many years ago in florida. i talk about how race in media works. i took a hard look at how the trayvon martin case became a national media issue. one of the things that happen is when you have a deadly event like this where there are only two witnesses, the person who was killed and the person who killed them, there is this rush in the media to get any detail
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that people think may have some bearing on what happened and a rush to report those details regardless of how it will impact the image of the victim or the image of the person who killed the person and what we learned in trayvon martin is that it's very -- there's a rush to characterize who the victim is and see if that has some bearing on what happened in the situation, and often that can be unfair. in the heat of the moment, you know, obviously this officer may not know who this person is or what their background was or anything like that, but there is a rush to get these details and put them out in the public space because the public is hungry for details about what may have happened, the background of the officer and the background of the person who was zblild yeah. >> and i do think as media outlets we have to be more sensitive about what kind of details will come out and how they may affect how we see both the victim and the person who killed them. >> let me play dallas mayor mike
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rallings information. >> there are many in social media and many who want to spread false innuendos. he was a great man and i am disturbed today that they besmirched his reputation. shame on you. stop it. >> this was the fox news outlet. >> right. right. that's very typical and very consistent with their playbook. we talked a lot about this in the trayvon martin documentary that eric was mentioning. we see not only the focus being on he was not accused of a crime, he wasn't arrested. you know, he was just living in his home. so people who constantly want to refute anything when you mention race, i would just ask that people question if this were a
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white woman in her apartment and an off duty black police officer entered her home and shot her, would it matter that there was marijuana in the apartment? i don't think so. >> right. >> or if this man had a gun on him, she's the interloper, she's the intruder. would people run and be his champion? i just don't know. so -- actually, i do know. but i would just ask people to ask themselves that question. this is something consistent. this happens to be a story that got headlines thankfully, but there are other nameless, faceless people who suffer these type of fatal incidents but incidents that come with dignity for black and brown people every day in this country. people are emboldened to ask the self-righteous law enforcement officer, some people don't carry a badge. it's just heartbreaking and my heart goes out to his mother because i can't imagine what
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she's going through. >> if i can point something out. >> uh-huh. >> if i could point something out, i would note that one good thing about this situation or -- is that we have experience now. we saw what happened with trayvon martin. we saw what happened with ore police-involved shootings. when there are these attempts to put out details when they've besmirched their character there's a quick reaction. the fact that we're having this discussion days after this information was made public and that there was an instant reaction in the community against the publication and dissemination of this detail shows that people are aware of the dynamic and they're aware of what's going on. the struggle over the image of the victim and how that can impact how this person may be prosecuted. so people are aware of what's going on to a degree that they weren't, i think, years ago, and that's a very good thing. >> before i -- >> if i could briefly add. >> i'm sorry. >> joy, if i could briefly add.
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i want to push back on this idea of normalizing the behavior. it is not normal to search the home of the decedent as indicated especially given the facts of this case. she didn't say she was going in investigating a crime. if she was performing a police function and going in to investigate a crime, then you search for evidence that the crime took place. she said she believed she was in her own apartment in both versions of her story. to ask for a warrant to look for evidence of a crime is clearly designed to attack the credibility of the decedent. >> also to say she refused a lawful ourd don't go in there and do whatever they say? >> it's a strange role. thank you very much for your time. up next, "am joy's" ten to watch.
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race in the ten to watch race, texas senate race. o'rourke is trailing cruz by three points. it's apparently way too close for comfort for ted cruz. he's calling in a man that he once despised for help. donald trump. joining me now is political analyst james moore who's been covering texas politics since 1970s. james, whose bright idea was it to put out pictures to make beta o'rourke look cooler than ever? >> it's not helpful. they didn't think the whole thing through. he has come across as being more accessible than he already is. this idea that donald trump is going to save him, joy, i think that might also back fire, too m. one of the things we're good about is building big stadiums. trump won't have a tough time finding a stadium. when he comes to town he animates the opposition. ted is in a difficult fight.
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donald trump coming to town could back fire as much as the silliness. i don't think he can fill a stadium. maybe a high school gymnasium. >> are you checking the craig's list ads maybe they're going to fill it with people they hire. you never know. >> they've done that. they've done that. >> yeah. >> let's talk about this ted cruz going to donald trump for help. here is just a reminder to people how ted cruz and donald trump felt about each other during the 2016 election. >> lying ted. lying ted. he's a lying guy. he can lie with the best of them. >> donald, you're a sniffling coward, leave heidi alone. >> this man is a pathological liar. >> and a group of activists want ted cruz voters to never forget that. they put out a billboard and it's billboards have not yet
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gone up but it reads this trump tweet from 2016, why would the people of texas support ted cruz when he has accomplished nothing for them. he's another all talk no action man. a group of activists are raising money to put that up as a billboard. how does it work then for donald trump to come down and do a stump speech for ted cruz and not have democrats just run that on a loop while he's doing it? >> well, i think they're going to do it and there's already people with many of these quotes on movable billboards and they're going to throw it back in his face. let's face it, when you have a guy that's lying about what it is approaching 5,000 falsehoods in his administration and he calls you a liar, that's saying something. in terms of likability, george w. bush is probably one of the more fondly thought of texans to come along in a long time
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regardless of what he did in washington. even he has said is ted cruz, i just don't like him. he does not come across well and he's done a lot of things to alienate and anger people. the x factor is we don't know how deep into texas conservatism this sort of dissatisfaction with trump is cutting but if it happens that the suburban, you know, white females and other folks in suburbia don't vote for him, i think something might happen here that is unexpected. if you had asked me if he had a chance three months ago, it would have been absolutely not. i think we could be surprised on election day and i never thought i would say that. >> this is the surprise rate of the night. it's not impossible to happen. the republicans are making o'rourke more likeable. this is mitch mcconnell talking
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about these races and how tight they are because control of the senate, which is not in play before, might be. here's mitch mcconnell. >> all of them too close to call and every one of them like a knife fight in an alley. i mean, just a brawl and everyone of those places. i hope when the smoke clears, we'll still have a majority in the senate. >> he's including texas. you have ted cruz agreeing to three debates. normally he shouldn't agree to debate beta o'rourke. there you have it. he's going to debate him three times. internally how worried is the cruz campaign? >> i think they have to be very worried and it's clear because they were making comments last week talking about how beto didn't want to debate him and this is common for an incumbent
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to set up a false premise and then run around and say he wouldn't debate. the fact that they very quickly came back to the table and said let's have three debates, let's get it out there, it's a clear sign he's worried. you don't see him running around having big rallies. it is not predictive of the vote, the size of the crowd but the crowds that beto is attracting in this state now, i've been covering politics a lot of time here, i've seen a lot of presidents for candidate come to this state even barack obama. the size of crowds he's drawing are comparable to presidential crowds. something might be going on here that we can't really measure but it has given democrats in this state the first opportunity to be hopeful in a long, long time. >> texas is still texas. the texas school board has voted to eliminate hillary clinton and helen keller from the curriculum. it's still texas. i wonder this prediction if
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texas could change and become a purple state will come to bear earlier. the hispanic vote will come to bear. will this be more active than normally? >> i think if beto is going to win, hispanic voters have to turn out. his message, which i think he's starting to get to resonate down along the border in the rio grande, is frankly you have to vote because if you don't vote, the republicans are going to take away daca. they're going to reduce your health care. they're going to cut taxes to the rich. they're going to make medicare and medicaid more difficult to get. they're going to continue to separate families on the border. if he hits that message strong and hard along the rio grande, he's going to have a very good chance of turning out these voters. as you mentioned historically in our state, they simply have not come out in the kinds of numbers that have been needed but this is an election where they very
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much could decide whether beto gets elected and ted cruz goes home. >> james moore, thank you very much. i really appreciate you being here. >> have a great day. coming up, the new hurdle for republicans trying to fast track rick kavanaugh into the supreme court. (music throughout)
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i'm fairly confident that our founding fathers did not intend the process to work this way. so far it's pretty much been an intergalactic freak show. senator feinstein's had the letter since july, for three months. she said nothing. nothing. zero, nada. zilch. she didn't say anything in the confirmation hearing. she didn't say anything in our confidential session with judge
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kavanaugh when the senators and the nominee met privately and now after it's all over she produces the letter. >> an accusation of sexual misconduct against brett kavanaugh could be a turning point in the battle over his nomination. he's denied the accusation. now republicans are questioning the timing of the allegation being made public. with me tiffany cross and alina maxwell and washington post columnist dana millbank. i want to start on that point. whatever else you think, there is something to the argument that senator feinstein had this report in july. >> correct. >> we even had congresswoman maxine waters on and she said if you had it, you're not going to put it out, it's no good to anyone. >> right. >> she didn't decide with the fellow democrats and let them decide whether it's wortd questioning him on. >> it illustrates just how much has not changed since 1993 and previously anita hill during the clarence thomas confirmation
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hearings, right? you had a moment in that controversy where you felt like the country was moving forward and i am disappointed in senator feinstein. in the me, too, era, you're going to have to do better when it comes to serious allegations of sexual misconduct and that includes informing other democrats that this letter exists. the allegations are serious. he's being accused of sexual misconduct and holding someone down against their will. she thankfully got away. it's not something that should be shrugged off as minor and insignificant. >> his corroborating witness, who was in the room and said this didn't happen, this is the friend who's not helping. "mother jones" is reporting. this is the witness, he wrote a memoir about his days in school. that book according to "mother jones" chronicle's mr. judge's time as a teenage alcoholic.
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it proved a debauchery that leads to aa and recovery. judge says his own blackout drinking while he and kavanaugh were georgetown prep students, that's the school they went to, reached the point where once i had the first beer i found it impossible to stop until i was completely annihilated. this is the guy that admits he got blackout drunk, he's the witness, and we're supposed to say we believe him and 65 girls that went to a different school and not the accuser. >> i have to think kavanaugh put that narrative on his own. it's gotten increasingly partisan. when you saw him when he got up and the parkland student's father tried to approach him. >> he says he didn't know who he was. >> it doesn't matter. he could be decent, nice, reseptemberful. >> that's the video.
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>> exactly. and the fact that i think that they had 65 women ready to go to come out and -- >> right. >> we were talking a little bit in makeup. i don't know 65 people from when i went to high school, certainly not well enough to know they would testify for my character. it almost looks like they knew it was happening and ready to go with this list of women which shows what else are they hiding? which speaks to the documents that nobody had. >> yeah. >> it doesn't pass the smell test. >> they couldn't produce the documents by 65 -- >> producing 65 women that you did not sexually assault is not proof that you did not do something wrong to one other woman. >> let me bring dana millbank in here. brett kavanaugh denies this. he's put out a statement saying he didn't do that. the other piece here, dana, is democrats are proceeding and rachel maddow has said this, she's absolutely right. they are not proceeding as if this nomination is a done deal. other than dianne feinstein
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using this piece of information that she did have, democrats are proceeding as if they can defeat this nomination for the most part. that only happens if they hang together and react together. here is doug jones elected mainly on the strength of black women getting him into office i should note in alabama on cnn this morning talking about his explanation -- his expectations regarding the nomination. >> i just think an anonymous letter to derail something in its late day is just not a good practice. i don't think it will happen but there is still time, jay. there is still time and i'm sure there's still people talking about this and still time to come forward and shed light on what may or may not have happened some 30 years ago. >> dana, one of the things that frustrates democratic voters is this hyper caution and early capitulation on issues. that's what that was. what we're reading in the hail is they're all going to hang together and wait to see if susan collins and lisa murkowski
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say yes and then they're going to jump. this is doug jones jumping early. what is going on in the democratic caucus? >> well, look, the democratic caucus at best of times is like herding cats. i don't want to say this letter, this allegation right now is a distraction, but it definitely is taking democrats away from other arguments that could be very successful against cavanaugh and indeed many of them thought they were right on the precipice of victory there. now senator kennedy can call this an intergalactic freak show, but what he's actually seeing is america, and there's a lot of fury and a lot of tension out there. the judiciary committee is no longer, you know, this old clubby bastian of older white christian men so what he sees as a freak show is in fact america reacting to judge cavanaugh. democrats were very strong on the document question saying
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what is this guy hiding? there's a lot of evidence that he was basically a political hack in the bush white house. clearly republicans don't want to get that sort of thing out. so i do agree with those who said that this is a legitimate issue, but it should have been brought up in the process so that it all could have been considered together rather than make it appear to be a late hit. that's why i think you're going to see democrats split on this. they were in a way kept in the dark by their own senior colleague on the judiciary committee. >> yes, indeed. dianne feinstein is the ranking member. she had the ability to bring this up. one of the people to do this was carmella harris. she was incredibly effective in her questioning of judge kavanaugh. here is carmella harris. she was talking about the nomination and laying out the case against him.
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>> not about only his beliefs, it's about the fact that he has been an operative, a political operative. twice in a piece he wrote racial spoils. there was a young immigrant woman 17 years old who went through every step that the law required her to go through to obtain an abortion. >> you're right. >> and yet he called it abortion on demand because those who would deprive women are trying to suggest, you know, it was just like tv on demand. you just click a button and you get it. >> i feel like one of the things senator feinstein did was deprive that woman the opportunity to interrogate kavanaugh on this issue that is being portrayed as a late hit. >> she was into 9 p.m. and some of the best moments we missed during the best hourstunately b right. this is about putting somebody on the supreme court forever that will take away fundamental
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rights for women and really families because we're not just talking about abortion, joy, we're talking about birth control pills, contraception, iuds. we're talking about the things that nearly every woman on the planet at some point in her reproductive years has used. i think that, you know, putting somebody on the supreme court with that in his background on the record saying abortion inducing drugs when talking about contraception, which is ant anti-science talking about abortion on demand when we're talking about women making choices for their own looifs, joy. i think it's pretty clear where he stands on that issue, joy. then there's all the other reasons. a sitting president can't be indicted. >> right. >> he's anti-affirmative action and voting rights is always at stake. he's bad for many reasons, not just the women's rights. >> the democrats are making a good point. i have to play this earlier. we didn't get it in earlier. this is the administrator of
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fema. by the way, a last note on that. it would have been a real opportunity to sort of correct something historically wrong to question him on that. this is the administrator of fema. brock long, dana, responding to this trump trutherism on hurricane maria. it's a pretty astounding response from the fema administrator. here it is. >> one thing about president trump is is that he is probably the one president that has had more support for what goes on back here and i think he's defensive because he knows how hard these guys behind me workday in and day out for a very complex situation and it's frustrating. those studies, the harvard study was done differently than the george washington study or this study and that study and the numbers are all over the place. >> just that squishy harvard they're out to get the president. he's the fema administrator. does that response strike you as a weird response to trump saying, the deaths didn't
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happen? >> no, that strikes me as exactly the response you would expect from president trump's fema director or president trump's director of anything. if you want to keep your job, you publicly praise the boss and you tiptoe delicately to avoid contradicting him in any way unless it is on deep background in a bob woodward book or an anonymous -- >> we're defining the fema director. >> doesn't make sense. for another news cycle, have a great sunday. go get yourself some delicious brunch. coming up at the top of the hour, what the watergate report could teach robert mueller's team. up next, the trump administration's latest attempt to undermine people of color. what do you have there?
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i don't think that the actions we've taken are at all inconsistent with our objective of peace between israel and palestinians. >> the actions national security advisor john bolt continue on i cutting u.s. funding to programs to help the refugees. cutting millions of dollars of
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aid for palestinians in east jerusalem hospitals. on friday they ended the final source of aid blocking millions of dollars to programs that build relationships between palestinians and israelis. the new york times report this is all apart of the administration policies to end all aids to palestinian civilians. the administration cruelty towards the palestinian people is part of a larger deed. >> thank you for covering this story. >> the american people covered this story and what happened in gaza was so shocking that it got covered. >> certainly. the point of my article and this is part of a pattern. there is one world of trump and i think it is cruel. his violence is a black hole that has no bottom. we have separating families and
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children at the border to denying puerto ricans that they suffered to this. my article was not about closing the mission. $350 million to the lead agency which was a lifeline for palestinian state refugees. these are human beings and these are their foods and books. without it, they have nothing and my dad is a refugee and he came here in the '50s. trump has closed the door on refugees and painfully hurt refugees thousands of miles away with this cut. it is a lifeline por palestinfo palestinians and what they need to shut down. >> we learned this shut down of refugees and refugees coming from the middle east, they may
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not realize that he's not helping them much either. there is something that a lot of these refugees have in common. they're not white and european. >> we can't take that out of power. donald trump is one thing is consistent. it is an adamant to people of color, american or africans or haiti or s-hole countries. palestinians are not muslims. there are hundreds of thousands of palestinians. >> and in bethlehem, there are a lot of christians. >> adding to this cut. then you have 25 million cut of hospitals in east jerusalems which many of them are lutheran. pediatric care for complex traditions, palestinians can't get there. we are saying no to hospitals and schooling and food and what
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they need to survive from free medical clinics and even israelis mix would say this is not what you are doing. you are making desperate people more desperate. the worst part is christian evangelicals base of donald trump who loves these. in the name of jesus, they are supporting making people who are the most desperate and vulnerable suffer. nothing more unchristian of what these evangelicals are supporting. >> if the united states withdraws this money, what percentage of the total money to go keeping house and children in school and alive eating. >> from this one u.n. relief agency, one-third of their entire budget to provide school for half a million people. about 3 million people get
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healthca healthca healthcare cl healthcare clinics from them. they are on the ground providing the last form for people of west benghazi and some in lebanon. america is now leaving. we have less and less influence there. they're upset of the palestinians not coming to the table with them. you are demonizing them. people will die. >> jared kushner who's in charge of this apparently told "the new york times" that donald trump impro improved the chances for peace by stlriping away the false realities that surrounds it. how does this make sense?
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>> sad enough that benjamin netanyahu praised the funding as a blessed event and he called these refugees factitious. >> does he not believe they exist? >> in his mind he believes they are not deserving help. that's why donald trump and benjamin netanyahu gets along. they share this cruelty of heart. forget politics, think of human beings suffering and the american government playing a role in suffering. it is wrong, we should stand up to it. >> more suffering people in unstable places. they are getting more of the things they don't want. where do they flee to before this administration? >> that door is close now. >> thank you very much. >> thank you. you have been triple duty today. >> i am happy to be on. >> you have been a lawyer and everything. >> more after the break. untries- "what is your nationality?" and i would always answer, "hispanic." so, when i got my ancestrydna results
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plea fallout. the manafort/mueller deal leaves the trump white house rattled. >> everyone gets indicted by bob mueller goes down. all of these cooperating witnesses are kcorrupted. >> meanwhile a former white house insider says the manafort deal is essentially meaningless to president trump. so you will hear the two vastly different views next. the carolinas, an epic weather event and it is expected to get worse. the death toll is on the rise as hurricane florence lingers on the latest of the report. watergate road map. a bit of his ri can help robert mueller when he starts to wrap up the russia probe. we begin with live picture of capitol hill where republicans are moving ahead are plans to vote on

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