good evening. i'm with you on an historic and divisive night. the confirmation of brett kavanaugh. moments ago kavanaugh sworn in by john roberts. his wife and daughters were there. the senate voted to confirm him by a 50-48 vote. that is the most narrow vote a nominee to the high court has gotten in more than 130 years. the allegations of sexual

misconduct against kavanaugh prompting bitter divisions in the country and in the senate. >> a vote to confirm judge kavanaugh is a vote to end this brief, dark chapter in the senate's history, and turn the page toward a brighter tomorrow. >> president trump's nomination of brett kavanaugh to the united states supreme court has been one of the saddest moments in the history of this senate. >> hundreds descending on the capital to protest, even shouting down the vice president of the united states as he tried to call the role. [ yelling ] >> sergeant in arms will restore order in the gallery. >> and later this hour trump will take the stage at a rally in kansas. nbc is live outside the supreme

court where protesters are still gathered. mike, set the scene for us. >> allie, it's pretty much all over but the shouting on this historic as you put it divisive day. the driveway behind me was where brett kavanaugh's car, we believe, exited just moments ago. well, perhaps 15 minutes ago, 10 minutes ago from the supreme court after he was sworn in. evidently sworn in as the associate justice of the supreme court. it came at the end of as you described it, a day of anger on the part of these protesters. a day of frustration. a day of indignation capping three weeks of tumult in washington and around the country. an extraordinary day of protests. i was with the protesters all day. rushing the capitol steps about noon. swarming past police who are

trying to block them from going up the steps. 150 arrests from that action earlier this afternoon. you play that tape from inside the senate chamber, 13 arrests from inside the senate chamber today inside the senate galleries as well. then late in the afternoon just when things seemed to be sort of dying down, and at the moment as near as we can tell, when brett kavanaugh was inside this building, we're on the backside of the building. this is the east side of the supreme court. on the other side, the main entrance, the iconic edifice of the supreme court. at that moment when he was inside protesters, a couple hundred of them, my guess, rushed to the top of the steps banging on the enormous brass doors screaming, chanting, expressing their anger and frustration. a remarkable day from this perspective with the protesters. >> the protests at the supreme court in the senate chambers outside the senate chambers in

the capitol building. a remarkable day indeed. mike for us at the supreme court. thank you. let's go to jeff bennett who is at the trump rally in topeka, kansas. jeff, when is the president getting there? what's the mood? >> we expect to see the president take the stage in about a half hour. right now the president's 2020 campaign manager is throwing out make america hats to those in the crowd. people here are happy. in the zero sum game of politics, a win is a win, and they are feeling happy about the confirmation of brett kavanaugh to the supreme court. i think it's worth doing a preemptive fact check based on what i think we're going to hear the president say. he's going to claim credit for the fact that he -- now just has had two supreme court justices named to the high court. he's probably also going to talk about brett kavanaugh in glowing terms. i have to tell you until this moment, donald trump according to sources familiar with us not all that invested in the process. he really didn't have that much

of a personal affinity for brett kavanaugh the man. he referred to him as a bush guy having worked in the bush white house. but president trump was told that given brett kavanaugh's partisan past, having his career been cooked in the cauldron of the ken star impeachment era, that he would be acceptable to the far right, and given his background having traveled in elite washington circles, that he was also acceptable to the washington establishment. that is how the counsel's office and donald trump ultimately settled on brett kavanaugh. and when it looked as if his confirmation was going to go off the rails after thursday's hearing, we saw president trump really dispense with that strategy of presidential restraint and take it directly to the chief accuser, dr. blasey ford. he cast doubt on her credibility, mocked her on a campaign stage that looked like this one back in mississippi. he suggested some of the protesters we're seeing on

capitol hill. he suggested they were paid professionals. all of that crystallized a choice for hard core trump supporters and republican voters. are you with this or not? are you for them or are you for us? that gave political cover to some of the wavering senators to ultimately break for brett kavanaugh. we've seen president trump feeling good about this, confident about this, talking to anybody who would listen. he talked on air force one. he talked on the south lawn. he called phil rucker for reporting a story. that's what the president is going to come here and talk about. brett kavanaugh is -- and the j job numbers and the trade deal with mexico and canada. promise made, promise kept on the banner behind. that's the thesis statement for his speech. >> yes. jeff thank you. let's go to garrett haake on

capitol hill. garrett, that's the situation there? >> reporter: well, ali senators are returning home after what was not the climax of the week here. that was susan collin's speech yesterday where it became clear republicans would have the 50 votes they needed to get brett kavanaugh confirmed. this confirmation battle, if you think about it, has altered the ground we're standing on politically going into the midterms. think starting here in the chamber itself. the three republicans who emerged as heros on the right to the trump base, lindsey graham, susan collins, mitch mcconnell, all folks a year ago who were deeply distrusted on the right, and now they are the three republican heros who helped get brett kavanaugh across the finish line. on the opposite side a democratic base who now realizes what conservatives have realized for quite some time now. the potency of the court in activating their voters and getting people pumped up, excited, and yes, angry and

interested in coming out to vote on the issue of judges and supreme court justices. i've not seen anything like the protests that we've had up here over the last couple days. it made the health care protests that we saw during that debate look tiny by comparison. you've got the left now energ e energized and engaged. you have republicans on the right. mitch mcconnell said after the final vote that democrats gave republicans a gift. they solved something for them the republicans couldn't figure out for themselves. how to get republican voters who might be more interested in president trump to care about the midterms. both sides are dialled in one month out from the midterms. all the close senate races, particularly in red states are going to be partially defined by what happened here over the last couple of days as both parties scramble to reframe what happened here in the best electoral terms possible. so the short term tonight this is a victory for republicans. in a month or so we'll see who

reaps the electoral victory, and then there's the questions of years and decades out, what the supreme court looks like and what it does with a justice brett kavanaugh sitting in the number nine seat. >> that's what he is now. justice brett kavanaugh. gard headache, thank you, and thank you for the remarkable coverage you provided throughout this episode. let's bring in michelle goldberg of the new york times. yamiche alcindor, msnbc contributor, and margaret carlson. thank you to the three of you for helping us analyze this. margaret, what garrett said, the democrats have maybe given republicans a rallying cry to narrow an enthusiasm gap. our viewers get upset when we report that, but the numbers indicate that a month ago republican -- the percentage of democrats who called the midterms very important is now

much closer to the number of republicans. there's no democrats who are less enthusiastic, but it seems there are a lot more republicans who are more enthusiastic. >> right. and democrats may hope that since republicans got what they wanted they will rest on their laurels. which humans tend to do. and yes, theirs is increased and democrats stayed the same, but the gap has narrowed. today, though, suggests that there's a lot of enthusiasm on the side that lost. you know, mitch mcconnell said because he wants to pour salt on an open wound, that brett kavanaugh was exonerated. well, half of the country thinks he wasn't investigated properly, and that he's -- and that he should have been eliminated from consideration to the supreme court. so there's a gap for you. and the final days of it, donald

trump thinks he had a huge victory. but there was something to be said even though the hearing wasn't what women hoped for when brett kavanaugh came back in as angry a man as we have in public, maybe elon musk is angrier, and then it moved onto trump mobilizing his troops to actually just kind of crush the #metoo movement. everything about it has been hurt by this, because not only do you not believe women. you hardly hear -- you hardly heard that woman have her say before she was kind of dismissed and before they moved on and said that brett kavanaugh was entirely believable without any fbi investigation. >> and that is noteworthy that the fbi didn't speak to christine blasey ford. yamiche, you're back where you normally are in d.c., but you were in new york with the president a couple weeks ago

when in new york for the u.n. general assembly. in a moment where president trump gave people a lot of pause, he said that he found the testimony of christine blasey ford compelling and for a moment, the world stopped spinning when people said what could that possibly mean? the attack then opened up again. the president deciding and saying after the vote, in fact, let's play what president trump said about judge kavanaugh, now justice kavanaugh after the vote. >> what they put him and his family through, the democrats over the last few weeks is horrible. if you look at what he's had to endure, horrible. false statements. it doesn't get any worse. but the beautiful thing is he is now in. he's going to be there for a long time. >> so what happened, yamiche between the time you talked to the president and that? >> i think what happened was that the president sensed this cultural reckoning.

and capitalized on that and capitalized on the idea of victim hood. at that press conference in new york when he said that christine blasey ford was credible, he also said he felt he had been falsely accused by many women who have alleged that the president of the united states sexually assaulted them or acted inappropriately sexually to them. those women are still claiming that to this day. he said i'm a man who has been falsely accused and that's going to change the way i look at this. when you look at the way he mocked christine blasey ford, there were so many white house advisers i talked to who said they were asking the president to be reserved and not attack this women. instead he said i'm going to go with my gut once again, and i'm going to go for the jugular. he had people laughing at her. i think what's really important is not just the president mocking dr. ford but also the crowd. the crowd was laughing and having a good time. he got that from them and said i can do this. i can push this guard, and after justice kavanaugh was confirmed, the president was asked what did

you think about your mississippi speech, do you think it had an impact. he said yeah, i thought it was a very big impact. you have the president saying this me too movement, there are some people who think it went too far. he's trying to take the idea we're looking at victims of sexual assault, men and women in the me too movement, and saying men might be the victims. there might be so many victims falsely accused that we have to rethink the cultural reckoning of the me too movement. >> on the left of your screen in new york is protests underway. we have cameras across the country where there are protests underway about the appointment now and confirmation of justice kavanaugh. michelle, you're in new york. let's ask about this question. the president said clearly and the white house expressed the strategy that this was going to galvanize republicans. this idea of being a scary time for young men, what yamiche was talking about, the statistics do not bare that out.

some small proportion get reported. of those, some small proportion get prosecuted and a smaller proportion end up with a conviction or anything going on. the incidence of wrongful accusations lie somewhere between 2 % and 8% depending on what you study. it's not really a thing, but the president seems to have capitalize on the it as a thing. >> just as the president capitalize oond nonexistent crime wave by undocumented immigrants. it's always been clear this president is the face of white male backlash. he again and again despite people's determination to pretend that it was kind of quote, unquote, economic anxiety that propelled him into his position, he understands his base and their resentment and grievances really really well. and i also want to say something about this galvanized republicans. there's abuser's logic to this, look what you made me do.

the way they keep acting about how it was protesters or was incivility or michael avenatti that make jeff flake and susan collins vote for this nominee. they were always going to vote for this nominee. they were determined to vote for this nominee. there was never a point that i can see that susan collins was wavering. she wanted any excuse to get to yes, and the fact that they're blaming democrats suggests to me an element of guilty conscious. right? you don't blame other people for making you do something if you think that that was a blameless thing to do. >> market karl southern, you've covered the issues that become a clear cultural divide. the thing on the screen you're sharing is our country's cultural divide. people thought maybe we hit a low in our empathy toward each other a couple years ago. maybe we're not even close. >> i'm just thinking looking at the new york protests, maybe the gap changes again, because of

protests like this. this takes a lot of energy to do on a saturday night, to get yourself out there. it will probably translate to votes. so the democratic enthusiasm is going to increase for this election. you know, what i -- i was trying to describe before women were blamed for brett kavanaugh's anger. it was -- he wouldn't have been angry if you hadn't brought this up. and michelle is making that point as well which is women were to blame for all of this. all the pain to his family, everything about this drawn out process. when all a woman did was say what happened to her. republicans thought they had to hear her. they actually humored her and brought in a prosecutor. but they didn't even come close to believing her or taking it seriously. and what they did by sloughing it off, if i didn't know senator

jeff flake, i would have thought he had just been put out there calling for this fbi investigation which turned out to be the end of the whole thing, because the fbi investigation gave them all a fig leaf to vote for kavanaugh, and it all ended. >> a week ago it seemed like he might have been pushing a cloud away from above the supreme court, and in the end, it may have ended up as exactly what you said, a fig leaf. thank you all for being with us on a saturday night. michelle goldberg, stay with me. brett kavanaugh officially confirmed to the supreme court. the democrats are threatening another investigation into his past if they retake the house in november. plus anger and outrage over kavanaugh's confirmation sparking protests across the country in response. as we look ahead to november, what does today's confirmation mean for the midterm elections? we'll does it -- discuss it ahead. ahead.

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brett kavanaugh is now officially on the supreme court. the fight over his confirmation is far from over. some democrats now saying they will investigate kavanaugh if they retake the house in november. in a letter to president trump yesterday dozens of house democrats pledged to take up with weather the fbi left off, even threatening to use subpoena powers. the democrat who is poised to become the chairman of the judiciary committee said this. >> if he is on the supreme court and the senate hasn't investigated, then the house will have to. >> with me now is debbie dingl. congresswoman, thank you for being with me tonight. your response to the swearing in of now justice brett kavanaugh. >> you know, i find myself just sad tonight. i can't believe that we've got republicans celebrating at the intensity that they are when this country is divided as it is. we've got a supreme court that

many people think is no longer legitimate. and i think that men and women across this country are trying to make sense of what they've seen for the last two or three weeks and women who i've always said this me too movement isn't real, that hollywood and capitol hill and the media aren't living -- live in bubbles. and now i always said that for too many women there are real consequences if you talk about what's happened to you, and women are seeing there are consequences. they're not believed. i think this is a very, very sad night in the united states of america. >> let's put that in context, though. you've been in congress for a while. your husband before you, the two of you have been in politics for so very, very long. these movements, if you compare them to the civil rights movement or the suffrage movement, they take years. is today -- is this week, this setback to me too that some people are saying it is, or is

this a bump along the road? >> you know, i talked to john about it. i'm not that old, ali. but i have been around. >> i was combining the two of you. >> thank you. no, but he has always been someone who has talked about how it takes time. and he talked about how his father was one of the authors of social security, introduced the first universal health care bill in the 40s, and we're sort of inching closer to it. i think that -- this -- what's happened in the last couple of weeks, i watched what happened in 1991 when we saw another woman have the courage to come forward and all of us were horrified at the way she was treated. i think young millennials used to say we don't have those problems suddenly realize they do have those problems. and fathers are worried about their daughters. men are worried about their spouses, but they're also

worried about due process. we have to have a real conversation and make sure that we keep this going forward. >> left of the screen, donald trump entered the rally in topeka, kansas. mitch mcconnell said this ends this brief, dark chapter in american history. i think there are a lot of women, a lot of men, a lot of americans who think a dark chapter has just reopened. not about brett kavanaugh, necessarily. but about this failure for there to be due process. about the failure to properly address a woman who claims to have been sexually assaulted. about the failure of the fbi to be able to interview the woman who brought the allegations forward. is this the end of a brief dark chapter as mitch mcconnell says or the beginning of one? >> so i'm normally the person that tries to be the peacemaker. i try to respect everybody. i think senator mcconnell is very wrong that we've just closed a dark chapter. i think we have opened a new chapter. you know what's made me angrier

than almost all of this has made me angry, but when the chair of the senate judiciary committee says there aren't women on his side on this because we don't want to work as hard -- >> he said it's a lot of work, the senate judiciary committee. >> when i got interviewed for my first job at general electric, i had why a woman would want to work there. i've had to work five times as hard as any other men to prove i can do it. when men are saying it, we're not going to take a statement like that quietly. >> what does it mean when you say fight back? if the democrats take the house, polling indicates that's possible in november. what happens? what do you do about justice kavanaugh? >> well, to give you my political read, i have always been debbie downer. two years ago i sort of predicted what was going to happen. i think that this has cemented

the democratic women or the independent women who didn't think their vote mattered. but i am -- and i think we will take the house. that's the first time i've said that. on the other hand, i'm out there. i was at the game today in ann arbor, and millennials to older people were talking about it. then i went to down river and there were women yelling at me. what people are reporting, the people that didn't care are caring now is also accurate, but i still think that the -- for the house side people are really energized in ways we have not seen it before. >> and of course you are seeing more women running for house seats than we have ever seen in history. deborah dingell, thank you for being here. >> thank you. >> coming up, the debate over brett kavanaugh's confirmation has left a deeper divide between republicans and democrats. what it means for the mid terms.

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looking at live pictures in topeka, kansas. president trump is holding a rally. he just announced a public swearing in ceremony for brett kavanaugh at the white house. if he makes any other news,

we'll bring that to you. the protests we saw today outside the supreme court for a sign of passions running high on the left. republicans are saying this fight as energized their base, too. >> our base is fired up. we finally discovered the one thing that would fire up the republican base. the other side did it. >> joining me now, liz smith who worked on the obama campaign and rick tyler, spokesman for ted cruz's campaign. and msnbc analyst. thank you for being here. liz, every time i say it, and i've been saying it a lot, about polling that indicates a narrowing of an enthusiasm gap between democrats and republicans, i get a lot of hate tweets about this. let me say a couple things. one is it's polling. two is it's october and whether or not there was a kavanaugh, there was probably going to be some interest in people being political. but number three, what does it

all mean to you? do you think that brett kavanaugh and the fight over brett kavanaugh actually galvanized republicans to come out and say this is the reason we're going to make sure democrats don't take the house in november? >> look, i think the three points you laid out are right on. but i do believe that mitch mcconnell and the republicans are spiking the football too early. i can't tell whether it's out of delusion, bluster, or if they're just trying to whistle past the groo graveyard. there's no doubt right now the polling showed enthusiasm gap that's closed. but we're one month out from the election. i think what we're seeing from the republicans is sort of a dismissiveness toward the energy on the left that we saw after the women's march. and after trump was elected there was a fire that was ignited under the democratic base, and that's why you saw candidates in oklahoma and deep red districts and state senate districts in wisconsin getting

election. what this did was really throw a can of cagas on there. we need to win 24 seats. i have a very hard time seeing this hurt us in any of the 25 districts that hillary won that are currently held by republicans. >> rick, talk to me about this. let's talk about that can of gas thrown on this thing. are there actual people saying that this concept of about it being a scary time for young men and false accusation and all of that, is that going to motivate republicans to go out or think about the election in a way that they didn't think about it two weeks ago? >> yes. first let me say everything liz said is right. democrats are fired up, and now they're even more fired up. the reason you're seeing the gap narrow is many republicans are now also fired up where they weren't, and that accounts for the closing of the gap.

in addition to truch's base being fired up, a lot of republicans aren't necessarily trump apologists who are also now fired up. because of this one thing. it's called a presumption of innocence. and they see from their perspective, they see an honest man who told the truth being railroaded from getting his seat on the supreme court. and that has made them angry. i have to say i think many of the members of the judiciary committee, and i would single out one person on the democratic side who i think didn't disqualify themselves. but presumption of innocence is a foundational tenet of justice. you don't want to live in a country where we don't have presumption of innocence. >> you're right. but a bunch of people think a woman who claims she was sexually assaulted deserves an investigation. >> i agree. i'm not clear why the fbi didn't interview her personally. but i hear the fbi didn't interview all the witnesses, and

what i've come to understand is the republicans, and they're the senators are the only ones who have seen the fbi report, is these are third party hear say witnesses nacht would be like me saying did you hear brett kavanaugh was accused. can i use you as a witness? it's hear say. all the firsthand accounts -- if you can't get firsthand accounts, you don't go to third hand accounts. it's been adjudicated. the fbi report is in. the senators -- >> right. they still didn't interview christine blasey ford or brett kavanaugh. >> let me make one point here. we know republicans turned out to vote. they turn out to vote in midterms. they turn out to vote in presidentials. democratic pevoters are more christmas easter catholics. we suck at voting in midterms. this gives democrats are reason to vote in midterms. it ain't pretty, but sometimes hate and anger is a good

motivator. we have that in droves right now in our party. >> and it's worth pointing out that because a poll says something, there are differences in two comes out in what states. where a democrat might be leading maybe more republicans come out to vote. >> the problem is in the senate now. >> there are probably more democrats fired up too. >> except that you're now losing north dakota by big margins with heidi highcamp. ted cruz seems to have regained his footing. so i agree with liz. the democrats will probably pick up the house. but they would have picked up a lot more. i will tell you that nad ler's letter is going to go out to republicans all over the country as a fundraiser saying if you vote democrat, this is what you'll get. i think it was stupid of him to call for an investigation of the

sitting justice after the fact. >> but lots of democratic members of congress signed that letter. i guess the issue is it didn't end with the swearing in today. thank you so both of you. go ahead, liz. >> don't sleep on heidi highcamp. sometimes voters do reward senators and we saw that with wellstone in 2002. they do reward political courage, even if it's at odds with what the voters believe. >> all right. we'll leave it at that. thank you, liz smith. thank you to both of you. brett kavanaugh's confirmation, what it means for the court's conservative majority. and roe v. wade. we'll look we'll monitor president trump's rally in kansas. itor president trump's rally in kansas from the first loving touch

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majority on the supreme court. as a candidate donald trump made it clear what his goal was for roe v. wade. >> i am pro-life, and i will be appointing pro life judges. i would think that will go back to the individual states. >> do you want to see the court overturn roe v. wade. >> that's what's going to be -- that will happen. >> brett kavanaugh's views on abortion have been hotly debated. he was asked during this e-mail in which he raised doubts about whether roe v. wade can be considered rule of the land. >> roe v. wade is an important precedent in the supreme court. it's been reaffirmed many times. >> with me now the is the director of political communications for planned parenthood. the sound of president trump that we played is not nearly as

meaningful as another piece of sound where he said women should be punished for abortions. >> exactly. and i think what we're seeing is donald trump promised to nominate and confirm judges to the supreme court who would overturn roe v. wade, and with this it's the promise kept. >> this whole idea of donald trump in that debate with hillary clinton saying i think it should go back to the states. people know there are many states in which abortion rights have been truncated. some of the cases may find their way to the supreme court, maybe sooner rather than later. >> exactly. i wish i had better news. what we're looking at right now is likely seeing a case come to the supreme court that will end up in the complete gutting if not overturning of the constitutional right to have an abortion in the next year or so. currently there are about -- >> in the next year or so? >> yeah. exactly. i mean, there are 13 cases right now that are one step away only from the supreme court. and each one of those is an attempt to really undermine the

fundamentals that promise women access to safe, legal abortion in this country no matter where they live. >> and by the way, you know at planned parenthood, there are many states in which restrictions have been imposed which essentially closed down facilities that provide safe aabortions for women. >> exactly. and far too many places in this country access to abortion is already so restricted that women may as well not have the right at all. but if roe v. wade is gutted or overturned, there are about 20 states that would immediately move to ban abortion, leaving more than 25 million women in this country without access. >> what happens then? >> well, i mean, unfortunately we've seen what this looked like before. listen, before roe v. wade was decided it wasn't that women weren't getting abortions. they were just going to unsafe measures to get them and in some cases dying. and even now in places where access is restricted so much to the point where women can't access it, you have women trying

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and this monday night at 7:00 p.m. in the east room of the white house we will perform the swearing in ceremony for soon-to-be justice kavanaugh. >> announcing a public swearing in for brett kavanaugh. he was sworn in earlier tonight. this confirmation hearing brought the me too movement literally to the steps of the nation's highest court. >> for so many years people swept cases like yours under the rug. times have changed. >> young women are standing up and saying no more. our institutions have not progressed. >> it's a very scary time for young men in america when you can be guilty of something that you may not be guilty of.

>> this is the most unethical sham -- what you want to do is destroy this guy's life -- >> dr. ford's emotional testimony landing her her on th cover of "time" magazine, nearly 27 years after anita hill landed on the front page. more americans believe dr. ford than judge kavanaugh. back in 1991, it was the exact opposite. more americans believed judge thomas than anita hill. michelle goldberg, op ed columnist. lauren, michelle, i don't know how busy everyone's been today. senator lindsey graham seemed to be auditioning for a job as attorney general, or something, had to say about the rolls that were played in this whole saga by christine blasey ford and how

they were treated. just listen to the words he uses here. >> i think dr. ford was treated well. i think the roles were reveersed. >> it was hard to hear. i'm going to repeat that. i hope my mother's not watching. i think dr. ford was treated well. i think the roles were reversed, the slut whore drunk was kavanaugh. >> it's really stunning, isn't it? >> i have noticed throughout this process, and i think that graham really put a cherry on top, republican men have somehow assumed the mantle of victimhood throughout this entire process, and women have let out a massive primal scream. women were calling into c-span

telling the world their sexual assault stories, they were confronting senators in elevators, walking out of work in black to protest this supreme court justice. what we're seeing is, after two years of the me too movement nothing has changed. a president who was elected after bragging about grabbing women by the pussy, has nominated a man to the supreme court who has been accuses of sexual assault. most people believed christine blasey ford. she was a very -- >> she was credible he said. >> exactly. he said she was credible. i think people believed her, and it just didn't matter, because women don't have the power. the patriarchy remains. >> let me show you another view of that, michelle. i want you to take a look at some of our united states senators this week, and we'll talk on the other side. >> why aren't you brave enough to talk to us and exchange with us? don't you wave your hand at me.

>> when you grow up, i'll be glad -- >> my chief of staff of 33 years tells me that we've tried to recruit women, we couldn't get the job done. >> they don't want to be on the committee? >> it's a lot of work. don't forget, compared to a lot of committee meetings, we have executive every thursday. >> i was raped 13 years ago, i don't remember the exact date. >> i'm so sorry. >> you're so sorry, do you believe me? >> she asked, do you believe me? he said, go to the cops. i thought that was as hot as it was going to get. there aren't women republicans on the senate judiciary committee because it's a lot of work. orrin hatch telling someone when you grow up, i'll talk to you. i'll give orrin hatch credit, he's one of the oldest people in all of government. but this is kind of remarkable, michelle? >> i mean, first of all, it's

remarkable that orrin hatch was also there to slander anita hill and he's still at it. you'ri you'ri you're right, public opinion has changed. the republican party if it's changed has only been for the worse. >> what we have right now is the brute illegitimate of white male patriarchal power against the express wishes of the majority of the people in this country. the elevation of brett kavanaugh to the supreme court is likely to make this problem of minority rule, which i think is the single political issue of our time worse. he's there to further put restrictions on the franchise. to further empower huge corporate donations in our politics. and kind of further corporate power over the lives of every single american. and so -- it kind of doesn't matter, the fact that a majority of women -- a majority of people believed christine blasey ford,

a majority of women were against this nomination. a majority of people voted against this presidency. a majority of people voted against the senators who voted to confirm this man. and yet the majority of the country has just been completely disenfranchised. and there's some opportunity to make their voice heard in the midterms, but not much. the only -- the only reason that republicans are in the cat bird seat when it comes to the senate, is because this terrain is being fought on the ground of public conservative states, it's not that the majority of people given their say would give power to the democrats. >> and that's a whole different discussion about why the senate is populated the way it is for another time. >> we have 30 seconds left. there have got to be women who have got to be thinking tonight, this isn't a door closed, this is one opened. >> i think women are turning their rage into action, i think

we were going to see them come out in huge numbers in november. and i think they're going to elect a lot more democratic women to the house. and then we'll see what happens a couple years after that. >> thanks to both of you for joining us. laura bassett and michelle goldberg, that does it for me. chris matthews is up next with more of msnbc's coverage of this historic day. the fact is, there are over ninety-six

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on this vote, the ayes are 50, the there ays are 48. the nomination of brett m. kavanaugh to be a justice of the supreme court of the united states is confirmed. >> you think elections don't matter, just keep that picture of mike pence there at the senate president's desk there deep in your mind. it does matter, this all happening just ahead of what will be a big victory lap for president trump tonight as he heads to a rally in topeka kansas tonight. let's bring in