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accountable. we will teach consent. this is just getting started. so, i'm glad to be a part of where it's going and the future of #metoo, time's up. so, yeah -- >> yeah. i'm in. i'm in. >> that's all for this edition of "dateline." manson has come to represent the malignant side of humanity. >> these people enjoyed killing. >> sharon tate begged her please don't kill me. >> average kids from average american homes turn out to be the killers. >> he would dose them with lsd. >> are you sane? >> sane?
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>> yeah. >> that's relevant. >> charles manson stole lives. >> stole innocence. >> he looks beautiful. he looks happy. >> and left a city living in fear. >> gun stores sell out. guard dogs are now selling for $5,000. >> you may think you know the manson story but not like this. >> he's a very evil sophisticated con man that knows exactly what he's doing. hello and welcome to dateline. he was a charismatic ex-con that dreamed of becoming a rock star and then he found a group of hippies in search of direction and purpose to follow him. in the end their toxic union would result in a frenzy of
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unfathomable brutality. how was he able to exert his influence to enter into a murderous rampage that would make him one of the most notorious figures in criminal history. >> april 14th, 2016. a clear day in the high desert. inside the walls of the california institution for women, a grey haired 66-year-old inmate appears before a parole board as she has done many times before. but this time, something remarkable. >> parole board panel is recommending the release of the former chance manson follower. >> a name on a list forever linked with one of the most famous crimes and criminals of the 20th century. charles manson. >> you don't understand me. that's your trouble. not my fault because you don't
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understand me. i don't understand you either. the story of charles mansion, his family and all the horror they wrought is buried in archives. memorialized in media, yet somehow it feels present. that hot summer night that caught the world utterly unprepared. when los angeles became suddenly a very scary place. it was august 9th, 1969, around 8:00 a.m. he was a young cop at the lapd working the day shift. >> the first call i got was the call to go and it came out as a drunk in a car. >> the officer cruised up benedict canyon and found the dead end street. a neighbor flagged him down and
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suddenly the drunken car call became something else. >> he told me that the maid came running back out yelling blood and bodies. >> all alone, nosed his squad car up a gated driveway. he could see right away things weren't right. >> the telephone wires that had been cut were hanging over the gate. we go through the kbgate and there's a car parked in the drive way. >> in the car he found not a drunk but a body. >> he had been shot and i walked around the front of the location and there were two more bodies on the lawn. >> back up arrived and they went into the house and found the scene horrible in a way that would go down in history. there was a young woman. >> there were multiple stab wounds on her and then there was a thick rope that was wrapped
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around her neck. >> and something else. the young woman was pregnant. 8 months pregnant. she had been stabbed repeatedly. next to her, a man with a bloody towel over his head. he had been shot at close range. also stabbed. it was a blood bath. >> had you ever seen such a thing before? >> no. no. it was horrendous. >> he could see down the hall out the back door. he saw a guest house near the swimming pool. he and a second officer went to check it out and inside they found a young man alive. >> i thought this guy knows something. 19-year-old william garrison said he was the care taker. he told him he knew nothing, had seen nothing, and heard nothing. >> with all the screaming and the gunshots and the fighting -- >> how could he not hear it? >> you would think so. i handcuffed him and walked him
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through the property. >> they walked past the bodies of the front lawn. >> he didn't seem shocked? >> no, not at all. >> garrison was the first and most likely suspect. derosa took him to the station house to book him. then the detectives arrived and the coroner and of course the pre press. >> an employee came to work and found several bodies in the house. >> the lapd didn't share right away the awful details or that the phone wires had been cut so no one could call for help or that an american flag had been draped over the couch or that someone had written in blood on the front door, one word, pig. >> do you have any kind of atbs? any suspects at all? >> no, the only person we have
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at this time is mr. garrison who we're questioning. >> the lapd didn't say much and didn't know much. >> were the bodies mutilated? >> this i'd rather not discuss. >> who would know? the fear would spread so fast. choke what was left of innocence. but that night, the main thing no one knew was, what was started wasn't over. >> coming up, there was still another big shock to come. the identities of the victims. >> my boyfriend called my mother and he had heard five people were dead and it was rumored to be the house of sharon tate. >> when dateline continues. tat. >> when dateline continues and your sister-in-law's... tennis partner's... chatty coworker's... youngest daughter's... entire judo class. one shot can make a world of difference. walgreens has specially trained pharmacists,
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>> it was media frenzy, 1969 style recorded on 16 millimeter film. >> we have a weird homicide. two bodies inside. two bodies outside. >> but word of mouth had skewed the awful truth by the time 16-year-old deborah tate heard it. >> my boyfriend called my mother and he had heard there was a fire in benedict canyon and five people were dead and it was rumored to be the house of
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sharon tate. >> sharon tate. deborah's big sister. sharon tate's biggest film valley of the dolls was two years behind her already. now 26 she was known less for her acting than her beauty, her style, and her husband. director roman polanski shot to fame with rosemary's baby in which a woman discovers she may be carrying child of the devil. in real life, sharon and roman were expecting too. >> she was so terribly excited. like a new mom to be. creating the nice little nest for the family to welcome the new life. >> and now deborah, frantic to learn what happened to her sister, pressed her panic stricken mother. >> mother what, what, tell me what. >> she must have been -- >> oh, she was out of her mind
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crazy. grief like you could not imagine. >> but it was no mistake and the murders already gruesome now took on the trappings of celebrity. >> this was at the moment of movie director roman polanski and his wife sharon tate was one of the victims. >> with sharon state, 25-year-old coffee heiress abigail folgers. it was her body in the front yard. behind her was her boyfriend, 32, an actor and old friend of roman. inside the house next to sharon the man with the towel over his head was 35-year-old jay seabring. >> famous hairdresser to the star that had been sharon tate's boyfriend. they had remained friends and sharon tate invited him over
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that evening. >> one of the sad ironies was jay was not supposed to be there that night. he was supposed to be in las vegas and he decided to stay. >> the body in the car took longer to identify. he turned out to be steve that was visiting the properties care taker. he went out to his car at just the wrong the moment and never got out of the drive way. l.a. struggled to understand. why would anyone kill all these people? and why in such a sadistic manner. the lapd searched for clues in the surrounding brush, among the neighbors, as of course the ever growing army of reporters. >> the lights were on and usually the gate light is on at least. >> why would you take note of that? >> it's always been like that. >> strange, despite all the
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carnage, no real clues though there was this one thing. >> a small amount of narcotics were found in the foreign sports car of seabring. some pot and hash were found in the house too. so now police began to wonder could the murders have had something to do with the lifestyles that sharon and her fabulous friends live. in mourning, in shock, director roman polanski found himself in front of a camera defending his dead wife. >> sharon not only didn't use drugs, she didn't touch alcohol. she didn't smoke cigarettes. >> all sharon was thinking about was her baby, he added. their baby that died with her. >> there was a lot of blood all over the place. baby cloths and that's all. >> but then another rumor hit the press. that the killings were somehow connected to polanski's horror
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movie, rosemary's baby. this time a representative spoke for polanski. >> the news liked to try to pin on sharon and her friends the drugs, sex, rock and roll, devil worshipping. >> horrific, yes. all those ugly theories. >> there was this kind of gossip sub text that these people brought this on themselves. these people were engaging in drugs or some sort of orgy. tragically that they were played off like that. >> drugs, orgies, there was no stopping the gossip, but if anyone believed it, then what happened next made no sense at all. >> coming up. >> everybody in los angeles is
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satanic connection or were they drug related? now a second attack will send the media into overdrive with shockwaves traveling through the hollywood hills and beyond. once again, here's keith morrison with manson. >> nearly 24 hours after this truly horrific crime with l.a. in deep shock the police were baffled. >> anything at this point would be mere speculation. >> and then, it happened again. >> the bodies of a man and his wife found in their home. both stabbed to death. repeated stab wounds. >> did you know the people in this home? >> oh, i've known these people were 30 years. >> what's their name? >> rosemary's children found the scene every bit as awful as the one ten miles away. his hands tied with a leather
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cord. his face covered with a pillow case. rosemary had a lamp cord around her neck. he had been stabbed 26 times. rosemary 41. overkill would be an understatement. and again just as it was at sharon state's house, the murder scene seemed almost art directed to elicit fore. >> a fork was jabbed into her and and was sticking there. painted in blood on one wall was the word rise. and another death to pigs. and on the refrigerator helt heltor skeltor from the beetles white album. >> these are brutal killings. >> she has written about the case for people magazine. >> in the middle of the night,
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showing up with knives, stabbing people multiple times, even when they were dead, things the police had never seen before. >> the killers seemed to have no conscious. >> they killed a husband and wife, took a shower in their home, ate some food and left. over two success i have nights, 7 people and an unborn baby have been slaughtered. l.a. braced itself for the next wave. especially after william garrison is cleared and released. >> there's some crazed killers roaming los angeles and immediate city wide panic. >> even though it was a hot august they closed their windows, locked their doors. >> gun stores sell out. guard dogs that were going for $200 a piece are now selling for $5,000. everybody in los angeles is petrified. where are they going to strike
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next? >> hollywood was scared and roman polanski started getting paranoid thinking there was someone among his peers. >> it was like a small nuclear device had gone off in hollywood and people were scared and needed to make sure that they were somehow not involved in this. >> people knew it in their gut. the murders had to be related. >> i felt that there was an immediate connection. so did everybody in my family. >> why did you think there was a connection? >> because of the writing on the wall. that was the main thing. >> jerry de rosa thought so too. >> i heard about some of the conditions and i thought to myself i wonder if this is connected some way. the writing. the blood on the wall. the b starting rotationing. >> so your mind went there pretty well right away.
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>> yeah. >> but it did not seem that way at the lapd. they got a team of detectives to investigate. the two teams worked out of the same squadron. the problem was, they didn't work together. >> they didn't like each other, they didn't get along very well and they didn't exchange information for months. so each of those murders was pursued separately. detectives acknowledged the crime scenes looked similar but they were middle class folks that owned grocery stores. they didn't hang out with coffee stars. unlikely the same people committed both crimes, they said. >> homicide officers theorized they may have used the same technique to throw police off the track. >> the media was quick to sort of say hey, these two crimes look similar.
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and the police were quick to say no, it's copy cat because what would one have to do with the other. it didn't make sense on the surface. >> oh, the cops looked into the usual. was it a work place dispute? a love triangle? a robbery turned violent? both cases stayed open and the terror lingered for weeks like the smog over downtown l.a. >> was there a time you thought this would never be solved? early on? >> yes. it seemed to have gone on forever. >> you'll never find out who did this? >> never find out and that's its own kind of hell. >> and all the while the cops failed to realize the killers were hiding in plain sight. all it would take was a chance encounter between two unlikely characters in an l.a. jail to crack the case wide open.
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>> coming up, jailhouse chat with a killer. >> she preceded on to tell me sharon tate begged her please don't kill me. please don't kill me. >> and a dark obsession with the beatles. >> they did listen to the white album over and over. >> when dateline continues. n da. now introducing aleve back and muscle pain. only aleve targets tough pain for up to 12 hours with just one pill. aleve back & muscle. all day strong. all day long. overwhelming air fresheners can send you running... so try febreze one. with no aerosols and no heavy perfumes. so you can spray and stay. febreze one. they work togetherf doing important stuff. the hitch? like you, your cells get hungry. feed them... with centrum micronutrients.
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president trump celebrating brett kavanaugh's confirmation to the supreme court. delivering remarks of support for the supreme court justice in kansas saturday night. meanwhile, thousands of protestors took to capitol hill and the supreme court following kavanaugh's nomination. a total of 164 people were arrested during the demonstrations. now back to dateline.
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>> welcome back to dateline. i'm natalie morales. two years after hippies rocked the summer of love in san francisco, los angeles was a city paralyzed with fear. 7 victims plus actress sharon tate's unborn baby have been massacred during a two-day killing spree. it was over a month and were the murders even connected? whoever was responsible for the bloody carnage remained a mystery but soon a most unlike lie sour ly source would deliver a jailhouse confession. >> autumn of '69. it was still hot in l.a. but the police investigation of the grizzly murders was ice cold. not a lead, a clue or a suspect in sight. then in october, a woman widely
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known on the hollywood party circuit found herself in the l.a. county women's jail. her name was virginia graham. and she knew people, once even dated frank sinatra. this wasn't her first fling with the law. >> i was there for lprobation. that's where virginia was when she met a young woman that was not like the other inmates. >> she was very pretty. very friendly. always happy. singing. doing cart wheels, in fact, up and down the aisle. >> the woman's name was susan ark atkins. >> i asked her what she was there for and this is when she said murder. sus susan told virginia she was accused of killing a guy in the suburbs months earlier but she went on bragging the cops didn't
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know a fraction of what she had really done. she said well you know the murders up in benedict canyon. she said you know who did it don't you? and i said no, i don't. and her words were you, well you're looking at her. >> she confessed to the crime the whole nation was talking about. enthusiastically described the kilgs and a kilgs -- killings in the detail. sharon tate begged her. please don't kill me. please don't kill me. and she looked at her eye to eye and said, i don't care if you're going to have a baby or not, i'm going to kill you. >> and then atkins told her she was part of a group and they would kill lots more people. celebrities like frank sinatra. >> the fact that there were going to be other murders committed of other people, i would never be able to live with
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that. >> virginia got to the police and told the whole story. so now lapd detectives zeroed in on suzanne atkins and learned she belonged to a commune called the family which moved to a run down old ranch outside of death valley. the leader was a short scruffy guy named manson. cops to their surprise discovered manson and several of his followers were already in custody. not for murder but for car theft. >> manson was a lifelong criminal. who never could go more than a day or two of his free life without breaking some law. >> and the people with him, young, mostly women, were barely more than half his age. >> they're easily inflounced. they came from broken homes or they were bullied at school. they didn't fit in and he was
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able to tap into all of that. >> police began to interview these women. one was 18-year-old barbara hoyt that spoke about life inside the family and what attracted her to charles manson. >> he was very loving. he was very much a father figure. >> how did it make you feel? >> made me feel special. felt like we were all fingers on one hand. like we were the digits and charlie was the hand. >> police spoke with other manson women too and learned in the fall of '67, manson moved to los angeles where he sent his girls out to find someone, anyone that could make him a rock star. they encountered dennis wilson of the beach boys that took him to the beach boys studio where he recorded this. ♪
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>> it never went anywhere. manson didn't measure up as a singer-song writer. he and his family settled in the foothills outside of l.a., a place called spahn ranch. >> one of the best things is they were allowed to stay there because they would do chores. >> when they weren't working the family went dumpster diving for food, panhandled for money. sometimes stole cars. there was a lot of drugs and plenty of sex all directed by manson. >> he told people who to sleep with. what to eat. where to do their bodily functions. >> barbara hoyt said charlie preached to his flock constantly. >> he would quote from the book of revelations. >> which he knew pretty well. >> not pretty well.
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word for word. >> they're talking about his other source of inspiration. >> they really did listen to the white album over and over. >> the beatles double album released a few months before the murders. one song in particular captivated charlie. helter skelters. with lyrics inspired by a amusement park ride. but the people that heard charlie preach said for him it meant something apocalyptic. what in the world did a beatles song have to do with the brutal murders in los angeles? it all made perfect sense to charlie manson. >> coming up, manson's unshakable hold on his family. >> he dances. he sings. he looks beautiful. he looks happy and it draws a lot of people. >> and the possible motive
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behind the murders. >> charlie would be king of the world. >> but that's crazy talk. >> it wasn't to us. s crazy talk >> it wasn't to us in terms of treating sensitivity, 3 days is really fast. sensodyne rapid relief is a game changer. it's going to let the dentist offer their patient sensitivity relief in 3 days. say over the course of a weekend you're going to start feeling significant results.
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case when this girl, susan atkins was arrested in another los angeles murder and talked to a cell mate about the tate killings. >> that lead investigators and eventually the media to a hippy cut called the family and their leader, charles manson. >> he dances. he sings. he looks beautiful. he looks happy. and this draws a lot of people. just like people are drawn to little babies. >> he looked like all the other hippies hanging around l.a. >> hippies up to this point were associated with peace, love, caring. >> but the investigator interviewed them extensively and soon found out as he told us in 2008, these hippies were different. especially their leader, manson, an ex-con and wanna be rock star obsessed with the book of revelation and beatles.
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he thought there were prophets speaking to him beneath the lyrics of their songs. >> in particular heltor skeltor. they were well aware of the racial tension including the riots in l.a. he told them it was the beatles prophesy of a race war between blacks and whites. the vision of armageddon he preached to his followers. >> there will be an all out war and during this war will lead his family into death valley where there's a bottomless pit and city underneath the surface. they'll be safe and when the war is over the blacks will have won but will not have the intellectual capacity to govern themselves. >> then charlie told them, the family would take over.
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>> in other words, charlie would be king of the world. >> but manson was feeding them a steady diet of lsd. >> he was serious about this. >> yeah. >> but that's crazy talk. >> it wasn't to us. the world was crazy to us. investigators learned from manson's followers that he was not content to wait for helt heltor skeltor. he wanted to start it by murdering wealthy white people who he called piggies. but he didn't plan to kill the piggies himself, he wanted his so-called family to do that. >> by that point, they were willing to do anything for him? >> because they loved him? because they feared him? because they were under his spell? >> they say that at that time they were brainwashed. >> it hardly seemed possible. and yet, as the prosecutor was
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able to piece together, manson sent susan atkins, tex watson, patricia to the home of sharon tate and her friends, a group of people manson did not even though. he did know the former resident. a music producer from who he tried and failed to get a record contract. he was well aware the producer moved out, but he also knew this. >> whoever is living there now has to be rich and famous. nobody else could afford a house like that. it's picked because of its location. >> then manson sent the same group plus one to the home the following night. seven savage murders all in the service of one man's twisted fantasy. >> he knew exactly what he was doing. he's not crazy at all. he's very evil. he's a very evil sophisticated
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con man. >> susan atkins was the star witness and revealed all the gruesome details about how they shot and slashed everyone in the home and then scrawled in blood what charles manson had taught them. >> and the words were helto heltor skeltor was on the murder scene that was the equivalent of manson's fingerprints at the murder scene. >> in december of '69 about four months after the killing. >> in california, five members of a so-called religious cut have been indicted in the murder of sharon tate and six others. >> they brought charles manson in to los angeles to the police station and they're expecting, my god, this must be some kind of monster and instead of some big beast barely restrained. there's this little tiny guy with long hair. >> are you sane? >> sane?
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>> yes. >> that's relevant. >> now as the turbulent 60s came to a close and with the whole world watching, charles manson would go on trial. >> he was the mastermind. these murders would never have taken place had it not been for charles manson. >> but if looking back the case against charlie seems obvious, it was not then. manson didn't personally commit the murders. there was no physical evidence to prove he manipulated his group and turned them into blood thirsty robots. the prosecutor decided to use heltor skeltor. it played well on the white album but how would it play with a jury. >> the court case that captivated the country. >> coming up, before o.j., this was the trial of the century.
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>> charlie always wanted to be famous and by god if this is how it was going to happen, he's going to do it right. >> and does one of the killers have a chance at freedom? when dateline continues. freedom when dateline continues. you're itching all the time. but even though you see and feel your eczema on the surface of your skin, an overly sensitive immune system deep within your skin might actually be causing your eczema. so help heal your skin from within. with dupixent. dupixent is not a steroid, and it continuously treats your eczema even when you can't see it. at 16 weeks, more than 1 in 3 patients saw clear or almost clear skin, and patients saw significant reduction in itch. do not use if you are allergic to dupixent. serious allergic reactions can occur. tell your doctor if you have new or worsening eye problems, including eye pain or changes in vision. if you have asthma, and are taking asthma medicines
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told in detail how charles mansion convinced her and others members of the cult like group to do the unthinkable, massacre innocent people. atkins testimony would be key to the prosecution's case, but there was no physical evidence linking manson to the killings. what would it take to convince a jury that he was the evil puppet mast master behind the bloodshed. here is keith morrison with the conclusion of manson. >> 60s gave us the summer of love. >> all of the elements present for one of the most sensational murder trials in history. >> that summer, charles man son and three of his followers went on the trial for the murders. >> i think mr. manson feels he is a product of our society. the prosecutor's task was extremely daunting. case like no other.
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defendant like no prosecutor had ever encountered. >> he had to prove that charles manson, this weird little guy, could vhave some control over these other followers to commit murder, but to the extent the followers were mentally incompetent to be tried either. >> that's a tricky busy. >> very tricky. >> and the trickiest part would be making a charge of first-degree murder stick against manson himself. >> it's a little more difficult to convict him because he did not physically participate in the murders. >> prove the domination over the family and explain motive to the jury, but what motive. >> that motive was helter-skelter. to ignite a war between blacks and whites. it was he that introduced helter-skelter into the family. talked about it all the time. >> had a star witness lined up. susan add kins who confessed the
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whole story in jail and repeated efr everything to a grand jury. >> but then, atkins recanted. said she had made up the whole thing. he turned to other family members, like barbara hoyte who left the family when manson's behavior frightened her. >> i decided do i want to live with myself when i get old. that was the deciding factor. barbara became a weary witness for the prosecution. she knew she would take the stand in full view of the former family of manson followers. >> what was it like to testify, seeing them out there. >> there was really cute when i was in the back of the courtroom. blowing he kisses and smiling and all that. of course that changed when i started opening my mouth on the w witness stand. >> day after day, demonstrated at the courthouse. performance art with sinister.
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>> your system wants destruction and that's what it's going to get. >> inside, the co-defendants leslie van hauten, susan atkins played to the cameras. it was a circus of weird. manson in the center ring. >> are you plotting any murders. >> i killed a chicken once. >> any human beings. >> no, no. >> you're innocent of any conspiracy to commit murder or telling anyone to commit murder or planning it. >> i'll plead guilty to the indians. >> monday manson appeared in court with an x scratched into his forehead. the rest of the family quickly followed suit. it was theater. charlie always wanted to be famous. he was going to do it right. >> his little sister, watched the endings on tv. >> it's all a play, isn't it.
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>> they were mocking america. they were marking our very foundation. >> everyone seemed to watching. everyone seemed to have an opinion. even the president of the united states. >> sheer a man who is guilty directly or indirectly of eight murders without reason. next day around the headlines. manson guilty, nixon declares. threw the trial into a turmoil. all the while, basked in the media. >> juj madge made a fool of him again. then he questions my sanity. i question his. >> at the end of the trial, told the jurors charles manson's family preached love, but practiced cold-blooded murder. >> slaughtered the victims in an orgy of murder. >> the verdict came after nine
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days of deliberations. the jury found all four defendants guilty of first-degree murder. >> in my verdict, i wanted to protect the society. after all, this is the united states of america and we have a heritage and this is something we must protect. >> they were all sentenced to death. >> be prepared to die. has he talked to you about that. he's already dead. he's already dead. he has no thoughts. he has no opinions. he's just an empty hole. he's infin gnat. >> watson, who did most of the killing, was convicted and sentenced to die in a separate trial. in 1972, the california superior court ruled the death penalty unconstitutional. sentences were reduced to life in prison. no gas chamber for any of the m manson family. which meant that all of them, even charles manson himself
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would have a chance of freedom after serving sentences. they all had parole hearings and each time they were denied. in 2009, atkins died in prison. leslie van houten, she did have a chance at freedom. >> doesn't matter whether i yielded the fatal blows or not. i feel responsible for both the deaths. >> the parole board recommended reloosing van houten, but then three months later, governor jerry brown vetoed the idea. sharon tate's younger sister debra was relieved. >> i don't think she deserves it. these people were brutally butchered. there has to be some kind of accountability in this world. >> convincing the jury of this very sophisticated motive of charles manson. >> prosecutor died in 2015.
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the story he wrote for the jury, that helter-skelter was the motive for the killings, inadvertently added to the legend. >> what do you want to call me a murder for. i never killed anyone. i don't need to kill anyone. >> charlie manson, spent the rest of his life behind bars. in november 2017, shortly after his 83rd birthday, nearly 50 years since he orchestrated brutal crimes, he died in prison. throughout his long life, he never admitted regret or remo e remorse. >> remorse to what. you people in the world have done everything to me. doesn't that give me equal right. i can do anything i want to you people at any time i want to because that's what you've done to me. >> charles manson will remain forever sered into the public consciousness. evil personify. the man some say helped bring
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down the curtain on the 60s asi that's all for this edition of dateline. i'm natalie more or less. thanks for watching. cnninnocence innocence. i'm craig melvin. >> i'm natalie morales. >> in is "dateline." it's shocking. you just go in crisis mode. i don't think they knew exactly what had happened other than he was covered in blood. she was just broken and lost. there is a murder out there and it's terrifying. it was supposed to be an anniversary celebration. 32 years together. >> they were in love even after all those
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