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because . supreme battling- >> the way they tortured him and his family, i thought it was a disgrace. i thought it was one of the most disgraceful performances i have ever seen. >> i think that the politically expedient vote here was a yes vote. >> why not, then? >> because this isn't about politics, this is about a lifetime appointment on the supreme court. bench pressed. two days after brett kavanagh's swearing in, the president takes a victory lap in prime time tonight at the white house. and the critical vote, senator susan collins explains why she voted yet. >> i believed that a sexual assault had happened to her. what i think she's mistaken about is who the perpetrator was. i do not believe her assailant
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was brett kavanagh. and vanished. how the disappearance of dissident saudi journalist could affect relations with the saudi regime and the rest of the free world? >> it's bad for both countries and their neighbors. my fear is if jahmahl got caught up in the back wash of that. and good day, everyone, i'm andrea mitchell in washington where president donald trump will hold an unprecedented prime time celebration at the white house tonight, trying to drive home his confirmation victory for supreme court justice brett kavanagh. turning what is usually a low key ceremonial event to one with big implications for the midterm elections. >> they're thinking about impeaching a brilliant jurist, a
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man that did nothing wrong, a man that was caught up in a hoax that was set up by the democrats and i think you're going to see a lot of things happen on november 6 that would not have happened before. the american public has seen this charade. it was fabricated and it a disgrace. and i think it's going to really show you something come november 6. >> brett kavanagh has actually been a justice for two days, having taken the twin oaths required by law administered by chief justice john roberts and retire justice andrew kennedy. joining me now, white house correspondent kristen welker, nbc capitol hill correspondent casie hunt. and nbc political analyst, wendy parker. and harry litman, and msnbc
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political contributor peter baker, chief white house correspondent at the "new york times." welcome all. well, kristen, first to you, you were questioning the president this morning already, fire and fury at the democrats over the confirmation battle. clearly he thinks this is a great midterm issue for republicans? >> reporter: he does, andrea, he's already been campaigning off of this big victory, getting judge brett kavanagh to be confirmed. he's now of course justice kavanagh. and we saw that over the weekend. and you're right, president trump fired up again today. i asked him about some of his comments, why he's referring to democrats as an angry mob, i asked him if that only creates more division in the country, and he took that as a chance to double down, saying i've never seen anything like what the democrats have done to prevent kavanagh from getting confirmed.
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and he was questioned about some of the talk about impeaching kavanagh and i asked him if democrats are going to be more energized, andrea, because of course they go into these midterms having suffered what they see as a big defeat. he disputed that. he said some democrats were going to be voting republican. i asked him if he saw anything in the polls that were missing and he didn't hear my follow-up and then he boarded marine one shortly thereafter. this is a man that is embolde d emboldened, not only getting kavanagh confirmed and then he had a big week last week and we're seeing that plays out. so he's trying to translate these victories into a strong showing by republicans in the midterms, less than a few weeks away now, andrea. >> and kasie hunt, you've been doing all of this reporting on the hill. i saw you with chris coons and
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you were there. right on set. i've been watching so much. but that was chris coons on "meet the press," sort of pushing back on the whole idea of impeachment. how big a deal is this on the house side? there are a couple of house members that don't even want to talk about this, but one said that there could be investigations into justice kavanagh if the senate does not investigate him. or is this that same, sort of progressive, let's say, wing of the democratic party wanting to go for something that perhaps cooler political heads don't want to go there because it's just going to fire up the republican base. >> certainly, and i actually -- it may have gotten a little bit lost in the noise, it was last week. but nancy pelosi has also addressed this idea and has essentially said, guys, we got bigger fish to fry and we have to worry about brett kavanagh
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right out of the gate. if democrats take back the house of representatives and have the chance to suddenly pull the levers of power, i think there are a lot of things that are higher up on the list, starting with a lot of investigations that they're already planning for, and there's word out of the white house that they're really starting to ramp up with that. so while clearly this is still at the forefront and is going to be a big theme in the midterms, i think it's going to be quickly shoved on the back burner. as you pointed out, there are progressives that are still going after this. but i think there's some question on the effect on women voters. clearly mitch mcconnell thinks that it's going to benefit him in states like north dakota, obviously, but also in a place like tennessee where they have been worried, but aren't anymore. it. >> and mitch mcconnell, i wanted to play for all of you one of
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the things he said this weekend about what he believes is going to fire up the republican base. >> we finally discovered the one thing that would fire up the republican base and we didn't think of it. the other side did it. the tactics that have been employed both by judiciary committee democratic senators and by the virtual mob that's assaulted all of us in the course of this process has turned our base on fire. they managed to deliver the only thing we had not been able to figure out how to do was to get our folks fired up. >> so peter baker, some of your reporting of this ticktock of what really happened after dr. ford testified, when kavanagh was going to come back after that lunch break and you reported that don mcgahn was getting him in the room in the back of the building and really telling him what he had to do, because the momentum was all in
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her favorite at that critical moment. >> that's exactly right, had a vote been taken at that moment, it's more likely judge kavanagh would go down. everyone in the white house was worried they had lost the momentum and the only way to do it was to see if judge kavanagh could do it himself. and the chairman cleared the room, in the holding room, where judge kavanagh was waiting for his turn to testify. and he explained to him that he had to really show what he felt, that he had to speak from the heart and make clear how indignant these allegations are because they're false. and the only way to convey that passion, genuine honest emotion would the judge have a chance of turning things around. you saw the result, he didn't have to be convinced, he was already furious.
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and while some people thought it went too far, and even the judge himself said it went too far, but clearly it changed the momentum again. and then the question of whether his nomination would go down a few hours earlier, brought it down to taking the vote. >> that bubble that lisa murkowski went over the top to be political. actually rallied people and the president's comments in mississippi, which some people felt his mocking comments of dr. ford, when he really went there. a lot of people, a lot of women, whom i talk to, we interviewed, that turned out to be a political mistake. that turned out to be decisive with some members of the senate. >> that's right, there was a lot of backlash when he mocked doctor ford, that crucial trio of senators, they all came out
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and condemned it, but none of them allowed it to affect their vote one way or the other, but the interesting thing is that aides in the white house immediately described it as positive. they described the president playing the role of a strategic boogie man. you're not going to look at him to be the leader of the me too movement, you're just not, this man has been accused of inappropriate sexual behavior, but if he could go out there and sort of handle that blow back, he could sort of in a quite believe and concise sound bite, make a case against dr. ford, point out what he thought were gaps in her story and it was nu enough to get replayed on cable news. it and those that were looking for some tacit green light to be more aggressive, it gave them
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that, so it didn't 100% shift the momentum, but what the white house believes and the kavanagh allies, it seemed to crush the momentum in kavanagh's favor and put him over the edge there. >> and now tonight the president is going to have a ceremonial signing in, and this is traditionally done, but it's usually done low key, during the day. but this is going to be prime time at 7:00 at night. and this, harry litman is what elena kagan had to say on friday, and justice sotomayor, the princeton graduates speaking at a princeton event being questioned by the yale law. this is what elena said.
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>> part of the court's legitimacy is people not seeing the court in the way that people see the rest of the governing structures of this country now. it's not so clear that, you know, i think going forward, that sort of middle position, you know, it not so clear whether we'll have it. >> gary litman, you clerked for justice kennedy, who was, especially in his later years, more of a swing vote centrist, as arguably sandra day o'connor became. but we're not going to see that kind of position right now on the cou the court, are we? >> i worked with justice kagan including at the court. and at the time, there was a sense that the two sides had to
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talk to each other, reason through, and now there's the distinct prospect that the five can just kind of mow the other four down without exactly listening. i think that that may prove a little bit -- there may be some good news within the court, but the real problem, and it's what justice kagan was pointing to is the legitimacy of the court to the outside world. last time we saw justice kavanagh, he was in this volcanic rage and he gets there with the politics of contempt and partisanship and will five votes not command the legitimacy of the american public. that would be a disaster for the court, but it's a distinct prospect. >> and peter baker, you're already in florida, going to be speaking to the police chiefs. this is not a midterm rally, but
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it could quickly become one. he's bringing with him on air force one rod rosenstein, the deputy attorney general, it's interesting to say the least, but there should be some time during that 2 1/2 hour flight to have a heart to heart talk. >> the president has been at odds with rosenstein for obvious reasons, that he runs the vefls v investigation into the russian meddling in the election of 2016. and he's also mad at rosenstein because there was a story about rosenstein a year ago being so angry at the way things had happened with comey's firing, they even broached the idea of secretly taping the president to show that he was not governing fully well and he even broached the idea of invoking the 25th amendment, that would remove the
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president for incapacity. the justice department said that mr. rosenstein he didn't mean those in a serious way, and told trump he didn't mean it in a serious way, and the president accepts that. it was asked if he was going to fire rosenstein and he said he would not. but they're going to have a discussion. >> thank you all so very much. thanks for being with us today to kick things off. mike pompeo returning from his fourth trip to south korea. he said that a take two summit has led to some agreements. it felt like my heart was skipping beats. they said i had afib. what's afib? i knew that meant i was at a greater risk of stroke.
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top chinese officials blasting secretary of state mike pompeo today in beijing, during his five-hour trip there this after vice president mike pence accused china of meddling in. we urged the u.s. to stop such misguided activities. this as the u.s. needs china in order to keep the u.s.-north korea diplomacy on track.
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first, pompeo goes to pyongyang and has kind of a feel-good meeting, as best i can tell from the briefings, with kim jong-un. he only took one member of the press corps, so no wire service reporters, no print reporters, no television reporters, this is very unusual on such an important mission, and again, saying we are pretty close to a second summit, but there's certain things that only the leaders themselves can resolve. but they began to make progress on all four pillars, important denuclearization demands from the singapore summit which have so far been not only met but violated. do i have that right? >> i think so, you're right it was a very important meeting because it was in between the third interkorean summit and this second pompeo-kim summit.
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the fact that he only took one member of the press corps. i think there was enough there to say the minimum amount to say the momentum is still going forward, like the north koreans talking about allowing inspectors into the test site and the satellite launch site. but there are hundreds of unanswered questions still. and the notion that they're going to let the two leaders decide the details. as a former negotiator, you don't want to be in that position where you're asking your two leaders to decide the details. >> that would be like, this is a comparison not entirely apt, but gorbachev and reagan are much more involved that these leaders are. let's have a deal to get rid of all nuclear weapons. which horrified the national security officials on both
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sides. >> and the real concern is that the u.s. side may want to deal too badly. and president trump given the midterm battle, he wants to deal too badly. we don't want a situation where we're declaring peace for something that only marginally reduces but doesn't eliminate the nuclear threat. >> and are the u.s. and south koreans goals not synchronous anymore? >> they're moving as fast as they can. that means they want the u.s. to start lifting sanctions. that moon means they are in fa removing sanctions moving forward. it there's not entirely an overlap between these two sides and that also is a little worrying. >> we're no longer demanding everything up front, that's for sure. >> and this is complicating the relationship with china.
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>> the best way for the u.s. to set the table for negotiation is if china's putting economic pressure on behind the scenes. it's hard for us to ask for that right now given that we're in this trade war with china. >> and could be the most important relationship we have geo politically, and we are getting in an economic war with them. we had destroyers coming within 45 yards of each other. >> those freedom of navigation orders are important and they should continue. but the overall state of the relationship isn't being managed. they appoint people to mack the major all relationship. and it seems to be taken away by the trade agenda >> from what we read, they don't know who's speaking from the white house on trade, whether it's mnuchin from treasury, or
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whether it's robert liteheiser, and they don't know which president trump is going to show up. >> that's not just true for the united states and china, but all the other world leaders in the region who don't know the direction in which this is going. every foreigner i meet with they're worried about the u.s.-china relationship because they don't know clearly what the signals are coming out of the white house. >> victor, thank you as always. and coming up, the horrific crash. this is near albany, new york, mourning the loss of 20 people, including four sisters. we'll have a live report next. the fact is, there are over ninety-six
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federal transportation safety investigators in upstate new york are scouring the scene of the worst transportation accident in nearly a decade. officials say an suv limousine carrying family and friends to a
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birthday celebration careened out of control before striking a parked car and slamming into a ravine. an aunt of one of the victims spoke out today about the devastation, the tragedy. >> i just hope they didn't suffer. i want to believe it was instant. that he never knew what happened. i have to believe that there was no suffering. >> abc's tom costello joins me now, and i understand, tom, from the governor and some of the officials there, you've got an important update? >> reporter: we do. the governor of new york just a few minutes ago said the following, he said the driver of the limo did not have the appropriate license to be driving this vehicle, he needed a commercial driver's license with a passenger endorsement.
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he said the vehicle was inspected last month by new york state authorities and it failed that inspection. it was not supposed to be on the road, said the governor. they don't yet know the cause of this accident, they don't have the driver officially identified and they don't know if it's a driver or vehicle malfunction. the owner of the limo is stage front li fro front -- prestige limo. he said the owner of the company was out of the country and expressed their extreme sadness about this event. and that the ntsb is taking over the investigation. how this happened on a saturday afternoon, did the driver use his brakes. it would appear that he blew through a stop sign and then he
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barrelled right through a highway and down this embankment, into the ravine here, they hit with such impact, they killed everybody on that suv limo. 18 people and two people who were here in the parking lot. a short time ago i talked to a young woman, 21 years old who lost her older sister in that crash and she talked about losing her best friend. how is your family doing? >> devastated. heart broken, broken all together. just missing the middle piece and she was the middle child. >> how do you go forward now? >> i'm going to live my life hopefully carrying on amanda's legacy, just carrying a few of her characteristics with me every day. >> reporter: amanda halsey was killed in that accident. the investigation is now very much in full force, we have 16 ntsb investigators on the scene, working with the state team,
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trying to do an investigation of the wreckage, was there a mechanical reason for this crash and then looking at whether anything else played a role in terms of the drive's conduct. >> tom, two questions, first of all, the weather, because from most accounts, i don't think it was bad weather, correct? >> reporter: no all indications are that the weather was not a contributing factor. >> and the other thing is this one of those stretch limos which had been renovated, extended, expanded or did it just flunk inspection because it wasn't up to par? >> reporter: we simply don't know the answer to that at this moment. and we have actually asked where that stretch limo is right now, where the wreckage is, but we haven't gotten a formal answer on that. we do know it was a 2001 model. >> and i lied, one more quick question. did it blow up? did it burst into flames? or was it just the impact? >> reporter: we don't believe it blew up.
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and this is where life meets legal. a month until the midterms and there are new warning signs for republicans in critical battleground house districts. a new poll from "the washington post" and george mason university showed democrats narrowly preferring democratic candidates. this is a major shift for districts. a majority of those districts are currently held by republicans. but in the aftermath of the kavanagh confirmation, the very opposite effect may be true for senate contests. especially in red states. let's get the scoop from our guests.
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just back from that trip, that extraordinary trip to africa with the first lady. we'll talk to you about that. but first, the kavanagh effect could help democrats in house seats, could certainly help republicans in senate seats and the president trying to make the most of it by really seizing on any suggestion by democrats, which pelosi and others do not want to hear about, but any talk about impeaching kavanagh now that he's on the supreme court. >> we did a npr maris, that showed just over the summer, that there was a 10-point thumb gap that democrats were more excited than republicans. now we're seeing more than 80% of democrats and 80% of republicans saying the midterms are very, very important. so what the president did, against the advice of white house aides when he mocked dr.
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ford it rallied up his base and now we're in this moment of political reckoning where voters want to come out and support their candidates. >> and critics who did not like her pivotal vote, this is what susan collins said on 60 minutes. >> i believe that a sexual assault had happened to her. what i think she's mistaken about is who the perpetrator was. even after the fbi has interviewed everyone whom dr. ford has named as present that horrible night that she remembers, every single one of them, including her best friend has no recollection of anything like this. >> jeff mason, this upsets a lot of people, the critics of collins who say you either believe one or the other, you
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can't say she's credible and then ignore that she said she was 100% certain it was brett kavanagh who attacked her. because survivors say you never forget certain things, a face of the man on top of you, who is trying to assault you. others of course, you're saying, that this is a senator, a woman known for being reasonable and serious and not subject to the political whims. >> for sure. and the decision that she made and the vote that she took will have political consequences, not onlyi infor the country, but fo her specifically. there was a huge increase in fundraising for her potential opponent the next time she's up for that vote. i'm sure that's something she took into account. it was a tricky vote for her, on both sides leading up to that vote. but certainly joy on the republican side that she ended up coming their way. >> and a tweet from susan rice,
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perhaps suggesting that she has family, a house, some roots in may, may even be interested in challenging her in 2020. it but the most immediate is heidi hidecamp from north dakota who voted against judge kavanagh and is going to really take the heat for this. and this is part of what she had to say on 60 minutes. >> in 2000 when i was running for governor, i was diagnosed with breast cancer. and it was serious, my doctor told me that i had a 28% chance of living 10 years. so i tell people, you have two accounts. you have a bank account, and you have a time account. what are you going to do with your time? do i have work i want to continue to do? certainly, do i want to compromise my principles for that job? no. do i want to compromise the supreme court for that job? no. >> she really seemed to be
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authentically troubled by this and certainly felt that she believed dr. ford, she said. >> and she talked so personally about her own battle with cancer. and that puts things into perspective, a lot of times we're talking about the supreme court, but these senators are real people, and you're thinking, even after this election, when it comes to writing my obituary, what do i want to be said. that's really, really critical for a lot of senators. and there are those who have the complete opposite reaction. you see people using the #beersf #beersfor d #beersforbrett. you look at the people who are doing that, they're looking at this completely different. but senator hidecamp said i have to look at my life long-term. >> you've got melania trump who
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did comment on how she was glad to hear that dr. ford had a chance to say her piece, but she praised judge kavanagh. you were with her in front of the sphinx. i know she doesn't like people to talk about her clothes, it looked like death on the nile. >> she had been on this four-country tour of africa. and she had not taken questions throughout her trip. we shouted one or two with her in ghana. this is the first time we had an exchange with her and covered everything, from kavanagh to the country she had been to her clothes. and you're right, she said she wished people would pay less attention to her clothes and more to what she does. but she continued to do what most people think of as a photo shoot in front of the sphinx.
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>> and she was a little bit edgy, in a continent and certainly in countries where people resent the colonial costume of the 19th century. >> i have friends who live in south africa and they look at pictures of melania trump wearing that hat and it's like you're going to meet someone who's relative had died in the civil rights movement. the first lady thinks completely differently. and she rightfully wants us to tell people, think of what i'm doing and not what i'm wearing. >> major all, this was a very successful solo trip for her, jeff, you were there and she got tremendous receptions, warm receptions everywhere, the pictures of her in millowi.
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now to a critical mystery, the disappearance of a prominent "washington post" writer who was a leading saudi dissident is raising suspicions that he may have been killed by a saudi hit squad. he went to the saudi consultant to get paperwork he needed to marry his turkish fiance. he never left the saudi outpost. they believe he was killed inside and his body disposed of. joining me now is ruth marcus, and david, tell us about his role and how he may have gotten on the wrong side of the very powerful crown prince? >> jahmahl was known in the
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middle east as a fearless commentator. he was given the editorship of a series of saudi newspapers, he would publish things that way before the current crown prince. he would be sacked. and then hire him back and write something else that got them upset. he had a talent for getting under people's skin. saying the truth as he saw it w. the current crown prince, it is a particularly serious problem and it's -- we think behind the tension in this instance. it is almost a week since he disappeared and waiting for hard evidence of what happened to him. we don't have any yet. >> and, ruth, you -- your newspaper printed a blank column. i think we have a dwragraphic o that last week. in tribute to him and also a cry
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for help and where is the state department? the u.s. has been notably silent not only on this but the dispute of the saudis and the canadians. they have an interest of selling u.s. weapons. had a close relationship with the saudi leadership. what is the u.s. government doing? >> there's been too much silence all around. our lead editorial this morning which we did in addition to david's very powerful column of khashoggi talks about time for answers. we need to have answers. i brought actually -- i have a -- >> a time for answers asking -- >> saying all governments. there are three government that is we need answers from. we need answers from the saudis who as far as we understand were the last to see jamal khashoggi. where is he? we need answers from the turks. this happened in your country. if the worst stories are true and we continue to hope and pray that they're not true, where is
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he? what are you doing to find out the truth? and as you say, finally, and last but not least, from the united states government, what are you doing? this is a writer for a u.s. paper. and this is intolerable. whether it's u.s. citizen or a u.s. writer or anybody else. this is not the way we treat journalists in the world. this is -- if the worst is true, it is just horrible and not to be tolerated. >> turkey already -- the irony, of course, is that, david, turkey of all countries in the world according to the committee to protect journalists imprisoned more journalists this year than any other country. but we're relying on turkey to try to get answers to what happened on their soil possibly. we know it was on their soil because he was last seen in istanbul. what we don't know if it's true that he was murdered by a saudi hit squad. >> it's a terrible situation in
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which we're relying on two governments that have a history of repressing journalists. turkey and saudi arabia. to account for the whereabouts and safety of our colleague jamal khashoggi who's been writing for "washington post," who's well-known around the world. saudis, turks and the united states government need to understand. this is somebody who matters to journalists everywhere. and his disappearance, his death if he's been murdered, will be taken very seriously. will not be forgotten by my colleagues. >> and will not be forgotten in fe terms of u.s. and saudi relations. >> it will be imperative on all of us to make sure that hopefully he is found and if he is not found alive that consequences, appropriate consequences ensue. i want to say one thing. we have taken down our pay wall so anybody who wants will be
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able to read the -- some excerpts from some of the pieces that jamal wrote for "the washington post." and if you read these pieces, which are available online, you will see two things. both his deep, deep love for his country and how restrained -- how he was simultaneously powerful, forceful and restrained in his criticism of the saudi regime when they did good things, when they showed modernization and tolerance he gave them due praise. and when they needed to be criticized he did not fear to criticize them. and that is why we are all in this business. >> ruth marcus, david ignacius, thank you so much. thank you both. president trump just arrived in orlando, florida. he'll speak to the international association of chief of police annual convention. we'll be right back. that can disrupt your routine for weeks.
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an alarming new report of 91 sign ti scientists details how the rise of greenhouse gas emissions at the current rates could warm the earth over the coming decades and trigger severe consequences. joining me now is nbc chief environmental affairs correspondent ann thompson. ann, we knew this was coming but this lays it out in black and white. >> it says the time's up, the world has to do something to reduce carbon dioxide emissions. in the report it talks about
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2.7-degree fahrenheit threshold and the ipcc says we are going do reach that somewhere between 2030 and mid century so we have to take action now if we are to stem the worst impacts of climate change. what does that mean? it means reducing carbon dioxide emissions by 45% by 2030. that's huge. and the only way it says to get there to do that is to increase the amount of renewables that we use. take those renewables and ratchet them up to 65%, 75% of the power generation and get our coal use down to just about zero because, of course, coal emits when you burn coal for power that creates greenhouse gases which warm the earth so it's a big, big ask of the world's politicians. they say it's scientifically possible. the question is, is the political will there? >> certainly not from this white house. >> no. >> because they have gone exactly in the opposite direction. ann thompson, thank you so much.
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and that does it for us for this edition of "andrea mitchell reports." chuck todd tonight here in washington. i'll be there presenting three films and here's steve kornacki in for "velshi & ruhle." >> good afternoon, everyone. it is monday, october 8th. let's get started. >> i thought the way they behaved was absolutely atrocious. i thought that the way they conducted themselves, the way they dealt with a high level, brilliant, going to be a great justice of the supreme court, the way they really tortured him and his family i thought it was a disgrace. i thought it was one of the most disgraceful performances i have ever seen. i've been hearing that, that now they're thinking about impeaching a brilliant jurist, a man that did nothing wrong, a man that was caught up in a hoax,