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agency. just one legal fact we wanted to give you before we go. i'll be back tomorrow night at 6:00 p.m. eastern for "the beat". but don't go anywhere because "hardball" with chris matthews is up next. a resounding democratic victory. let's play "hardball." good evening i'm chris matthews in washington. here's what i predicted six months ago. >> i say it on this 5th day of april with all the possibilities looming this summer and early fall, i believe the democrats will carry the house. history suggest and the level of this president's popularity suggests they'll pick up more than the 29 seats the party opposing the president gets in the midterm elections. i say they'll do better. so hold me to that.
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>> tonight that prediction is stronger than ever, 30 to 40 seats the democrats will pick up in the house of representatives. it's four weeks exactly before the fall midterm election. and that's what the democrats are headed for, 30 to 40 seats. politico's latest ratings suggest the republicans in the house is crumbling now. there are now 209 seats either firmly or leaning in the democratic column. just nine shy of the 218 the party needs to wrest away control of the chamber. president trump and republican leaders have bragged the nomination battle over justice brett kavanaugh has revved up their voters. here's president trump at the white house today trying to make that point. >> how do you keep your base energized now that you have the big kavanaugh victory? i would say that just by winning. i can tell you the energy on the
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republican side i don't think it's ever been greater. >> when it comes to which party voters want to take control of the house, a new cnn poll found it's democrats that hold the advantage with a 13 point lead among likely voters, that was taken last week during the height of the supreme court show down that inflamed passions and show downs. they've now got four weeks to translate that anger into energy. and they have some of the biggest names in the democratic party cheering the voters on. let's watch. >> it is not a time to curl up, not a time to shut up, it's not a time to give up. it's a time to get up, to rise up, to speak up. it's time for you not to wait for hope. but to be the hope. >> that the bottom line is that they may have the power right now, but we need to take it
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back. and the only way we are going to do that is when we get everyone out to vote. >> those republicans, man they got a lot going their way. you bet they do. i'm going to tell you this, i'd rather be us than them. and i'll tell you why. i'll tell you why. they may have the money, they may have the power right now. but there's a whole lot more of us than there is of them. >> joined by dawn edwards, jonathan lemur, and former republican congress david jolly from florida. let me get the information on the voting first of all before we get the point of view. let me go to jonathan on this. i'm looking at all these numbers and i've been thinking for a long time, 30 to 40 seats, it's going to happen. what's your thoughts? >> it's a good time to revive your prediction, no question.
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i think there are a multitude of people near the white house that share your view and they're worried about it. as much as the president is bullish, and you saw it publically today, he is going to say time and again that he believes in the energy on the republican side. there's no question there's been some increased enthusiasm because of the kavanaugh fight. we have seen, particularly on the senate side, some improvements in the polls there, but will it remain now that kavanaugh is in. it would be one thing if kavanaugh had been denied his seat on the bench and the republicans could have had an anger about it, thinking their man was treated unfairly. where traditionally republicans have better turnouts in midterms to begin with. but now that he's on there, will that e fnergy last or dissipate. but high ranked republicans on capitol hill feel good about the senate. but the house yes, they're
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concerned. they think it could slip away and be a gain of seats like you said. yes, they could think about impeachment but it means they control a body of congress, have the power of subpoena and could haul up trump official after trump official, up to the hill, swear them in and proceed to run investigations, not just on russia but on corruption issues and bog down the trump administration's agenda and provide that image night after night of republicans close to the white house being forced to testify. that is something that people close to the president are very concerned about. >> dawn, i was watching yesterday and tried to imagine what most passionate democrats are feeling, watching that power festivity yesterday at the white house where they showed off their power. they trooped in the supreme court people, all these republicans just so they could have the ceremony. they made the guy the chief justice, they just wanted to show him off.
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>> they did. it was like a campaign rally. it was a pretty disgusting show. i think that what's happening is every time president trump does that kind of thing when he goes out in the rallies, it actually inspires democrats. we were sitting here four months ago and you demanded i give you an answer about how many seats were going to be won, and i said 35, and i'm sticking with it. >> that's what i'm saying. we're together on that. dave, republicans are in the power, democrats run the argument sometimes, but the sheer power that we saw on display yesterday is something republicans love. they love the executive, the supreme court, they like to be in control of congress but they like this owning it, you know what i mean? you were in that party, you know what they like. it's bottom line we own it. >> i think they're going to overplay their hand and donald trump is going to overplay his hand. this is what i mean, the spike in gop, entuesday i can't say m
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is this, you love the republican party, you love the republican more party but it does not mean more people love the republican party after brett kavanaugh. what the republicans are ignoring is the enthusiasm spike among democrats that's why we're seeing numbers in the house that suggests we could see a change of control like we saw in '94, '06, 2010. democrats have been working for two years towards this moment i don't believe they're going to let it slip away. >> let me talk to everybody about that. it seems you have an accumulation of passion on the democratic side. you have the latest whiff over how badly treated brett was or how upset lindsey graham was. but on the democratic side you have the me too movement, the fact a lot of democrats are furious they lost the 2016 election and maybe they had questions about hilly but they didn't want trump. they've been marching since the day after the election back in
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'16, then you have two years of trump, which is enough to drive most of the progressives crazy. and then the way they treated dr. ford. so you have a whole accumulation of reasons to get out and vote whereas all the republicans have i think is the sugar high of how sad they felt with lindsay and brett kavanaugh and how weaked they looked. your thoughts? >> you're right. there's an extraordinary array of why democrats are energized. the day after the inauguration is when the women's march took over the streets in countless american cities. thousands of women, with enmen alongside, protesting the trump inauguration. and saw it a week later when they protested the travel ban. it hasn't necessarily let up. there hasn't been a demonstration or a march every day, but it's still there, we're seeing it in the number of women
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can' candidates running for office. we're seeing it, time again the trump is such an ever present part of our lives he's a foil for these democrats, for the liberals, gives them something to run against. it's harder for the republicans, yes, kavanaugh gives them a boost, but for so many republicans, the trump administration has been, you know, perhaps a mixed bag. yes, you have two supreme court justices but you have day after day of drama. you have what happened in helsinki, what happened with the children being separated from their parents at the border, the ongoing russia probe, and even those perhaps sympathetic to the president feel this is not what our party wanted and they may not be willing to turn out this november or conversely, the die hard trumpsters may wait until 2020 when they see the president's name on the ballot again and may not come out this november. >> dawn, i want to ask you about
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women because you're here. stormy davis, whatever you think of her, she was bought off and susan mcdougal was bought off for her silence. and then you have dr. ford, the fact is she said she had somebody's hand over her mouth so she couldn't call for help and that person she said was brett kavanaugh. there's never been a good argument that wasn't brett kavanaugh. she was the witness, nobody is denying it. okay. except him because he says he can't remember it. it seems that would be a strong primordial argument for a scream this november. it's time to say something when you've been gagged basically. >> i think that's what women are feeling across the country. if you look at some of the districts that are really in play in the house, they are places you wouldn't have thought of, in kansas, in iowa, in nebraska, in texas, these are all a lot of suburban districts where those college educated
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white women voters are going to show up and vote for democrats because they're tired of the mess. >> president trump weighed in on the hundreds of demonstrators that took to capitol hill to make their voices heard. he doesn't like that, he doesn't like people on the other side, especially women, opposing kavanaugh. >> a lot of those were paid protesters. you saw that. they're unhappy because they haven't been paid yet. i've been calling it. they were paid protesters. that was professionals. >> the president's republican allies tried to challenge their supporters by casting democrats as an angry mob. >> reason and deliberation triumphed over what was literally, literally, an attempt to sway the senate using mob tactics. the far left mob is not letting up. >> if we legitimize this process, the rule of law gave away to the mob rule. >> there's no doubt the left's
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mob like tactics are backfiring. >> that behavior of those protesters was just unacceptable. you see the mob rule of what's coming. >> outside acknowledge traitors. i'm sorry, outside agitators i grew up with that, we all did. it's not legitimate protests. i looked at the protesters they tended to be middle class people, diverse backgrounds, there wasn't any crazy people in the crowd. what's this thing about they haven't been paid yet? that's like birtherism. trump just makes this stuff up, which everybody knows is lying. there's no evidence of anybody getting paid to protest here. who's he talking to that's buying this mouthwash? >> there's a couple important things here. the first is we can't overlook the fact that the president and republicans were forceful and swift in their condemnation over legitimate protesters over
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kavanaugh than they were the racists in charlottesville. if you substituted left for right we're describing the tea party halls in 2009, and 2010, the reality is you have a lot of entitled empty suits who sit in the senate who realize the american people control the senate, get to hold them accountable. and when you see words like mitch mcconnell suggesting this is a mob, i think it's going to overplay the hand. it's showing a disdain to the american people. they're going to realize they're being spoken down to by mitch mcconnell. >> somebody should read the constitution. written it gives the right to the american people to petition congress. to petition congress. to the very thing they're doing there. petitioning congress. and that's a right, just like the second amendment, mr. and mrs. gun owner. it's just like the second
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amendment. you ought to value that, too. thank you all. coming up, how will the dust settle after the kavanaugh fight in key states like nevada, texas, states which democrats hope to add senate seats. plus rick gates sought out a pro po sal from an israeli company to fight hillary clinton, sounds like what the russians did, they went to the israelis first, that company and ended up getting the stuff from the russians. the same thing they were pitching for before. could it be the trump crowd came up with the idea for help before the russians came up with it. and people are questioning the timing of nikki haley's resignation, coming a month before the midterms. let me finish with something i've learned about leaders tonight. this is "hardball." "hardball," where the action is. . "hardball," where the action is. of course i have- ever since i started renting from national.
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one observer described the atmosphere in the courtroom as jovial as brett kavanaugh took his seat today as the newest associate justice of the u.s. supreme court. there are the pictures, the sketches. also attending today's session as observers, kavanaugh's wife and two daughters and retired justice anthony kennedy. today the court heard arguments in a case involving prison sentences as the newest member of the court kavanaugh will also take on a few special jobs including sitting on the committee that overseas the court's cafeteria. a task chief justice roberts is aimed at bringing a new justice back down to earth after excitement of confirmation and appointment. i guess he's had enough excitement. we'll be right back. nough excitement we'll be right back. ♪
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welcome back to "hardball." with four weeks to go until the midterms tonight we look at two of the "hardball" ten senate
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races, nevada and texas. the states represent democrats best shot, nevada and its dream shot texas. first if democrats have any hope of cutting into the republican senate majority of 51/49 this fall they need to defeat senator dean heller in nevada a state hillary won by two points. helder, an incumbent faces jackie rosen, who raised over $7 million in the last three months. there she is. in a brand new nbc poll, heller has a lead over rosen. however, the most recent polls shows rosen with a two point edge. meanwhile in texas, beta
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o'rourke is running a race against the somewhat unliked incumbent ted cruz. and a new ad takes cruz to task for supporting donald trump. look at this. >> someone left a note on my door the other day, is ted cruz as tough as texas? come on, if someone called my wife a dog and said my daddy was in on the kennedy assassination, i wouldn't kiss their ass, you stick your finger in their chest and give them a few words or kick their ass. >> john, let's start with nevada. it seems to me that jake kckie n has to win or the democrats aren't going to pick up the seats to take control of the senate. it's the best bet they got. >> yeah, i think there are a lot of folks in washington who
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thought that heller was a dead duck for a long time because he's apparently trying to lose the race and not succeeding, but repealinging obamacare. having a campaign that's not that great, which has one strategy, to be in love with trump and then in love with kavanaugh, to try to hope the base will turn out as they often do with midterms and especially in nevada democrats don't do well here and he can hold out. the polling has gone back and forth, it's been a margin of error race all yearlong. and i think democrats are worried here and nationally that heller who has never lost a race can hold on. >> i think about nevada, almost the cartoon, i tell people it's the one state where you meet the union workers, the whole time you're in vegas, for example, you're meeting union people not people behind some factory line,
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they're waiting your table, they're your casino pit bosses, whatever, they're all over the place. then you have the rural mormon lds culture out there. how do you measure one against the other? big city vegas crowd, a lot of union workers are women on the left sort of in terms of practicality. then you have the quiet more mormon crowd, what's the power? >> it's interesting. >> go ahead, how do you get both? >> you've talked to all these folks, you've been in the casinos. that vote is crucial. the culinary vote represents 50,000 or so folks. that's what helped harry reed survive in a midterm even though his numbers were as terrible as heller. then you talk about rural nevada they love trump, they're going to vote for heller, that's only
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about 15 to 18% of the vote. that's threading a needle to make up what you lose in clark county. and then you have two swing counties that if the democrats can hold their own, they win. it's rural, southern nevada where the swing voters are. >> senator cruz was asked about o'rourke's challenge to him yesterday. here's what cruz had to say? >> i think it's the sign of the times nationally, the extreme left they're angry and energized and we're seeing it in texas. >> that's on the roof here. what do you make of this race, abby? i've been sensing that beto o'rourke has more guts than anybody has had in their life. he's taken on a guy nobody can
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beat but he's fallen behind and stuck there. >> he's trailing by about 5 points and that's a huge amount to make up. i've been covering politics in texas for a long time and i lived it as a kid and i've never seen a race like this before. >> what could turn it? he seems to be so damn attractive as a candidate, the kennedy connection has been mentioned. he's getting out the people in the crowds. how do you translate the crowds to voters in the booth? >> what i wonder when i look -- >> look at these crowds. most people in states would die for these turnouts. >> i think what it will take is if we look back at the virginia gubernatorial race last year it seemed neck and neck and the republican actually lost nine points so can the polling detect this enthusiasm, to me that's the path for him, along with consolidating the hispanic vote.
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>> consistent with a presidential year that's not enough. >> hillary clinton lost texas by nine points which was a significant step forward for democrats but it's hard to underscore how difficult this can be. but again i've never seen anything like that, i can imagine stranger things have happened in politics. >> why does cruz, seem like an unpopular personality, he's not a charmer, arrogant, he said in law school he wouldn't study with the kids who went to penn, they had to go to harvard or yale, that's arrogant. how does he get 30 some% of the his span you can vote. >> the name cruz is hispanic, south texas your name is important among those hispanic voters. while beto has a spanish nickname, his last name is irish. there is an anti-abortion group
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within that sector -- >> i understand that. >> so it's -- texas is just so complex and sometimes it's just not black or white. >> it's a race, this may be the number one in the country. john, thank you, sir, your reporting is fantastic. and abby, we just met you, you're great. i tell you, that is the race to watch. we're going to get down there pretty soon, i hope. up next a stunning report for the "new york times" says a former campaign initial was out looking for proposals to use the social media to spread disinformation about trump's political component. here they caught the trump people pitching the idea to foreign governments to hurt hillary and help trump. i think we caught them. this is "hardball" where the action is. em this is "hardball" where the action is. (burke) that's what we call a huge drag.
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welcome back to "hardball." a mysterious lead is raising new questions in the investigation of potential collusion. most cure yois is it appears the trump campaign was sew listing proposals for an online influence operation that was similar to the one russia actually delivered. the "new york times" is now reporting that rick gates, quote, requested proposals in 2016 from an israeli company to
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create fake online identities to use social media manipulation and gather intelligence to help defeat primary race opponents and hillary clinton. according to interviews and copies of the proposals. gates has been cooperating with the special counsel since pleading guilty in february. however mueller has questioned employees of the israeli companies that proposed them. he expressed interest in using social media influence and manipulation as a campaign tool. those seem to describe a smaller scale version of the social media campaign that russia ultimately cared out to benefit trump and disparage hillary clinton. 13 russians were indicted last february for that effort which included the fraudulent use of fictitious online personas.
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i'm joined by mall colkey larg nance. what do you make of the fact that rick gates was out looking for proposals to screw with our elections, help trump hurt hillary? >> if you look at the time line, this conversation took place in march 2016. this is just about the exact same time that the democratic national committee was discovering that their servers had been hacked into. that george papadopoulos was out meeting with suspected members of russian intelligence. and the rumor that hillary clinton's e-mails were in the possession of the kremlin were being floated all around at this time. i think that there were multiple teams. we've already seen evidence that there were multiple teams in the trump camp that had been looking for information related to hillary's e-mails, related to psychological warfare and
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influence warfare operations and what the russians and israelis called perception management techniques to find and manipulate voters. >> let me ask you what it tells you about the m.o. here's rick gates, he's out there -- i doubt if he's on his own. he's out there trying to develop a relationship with some overseas foreign operation which would give them the capability to screw with hillary's campaign and to help trump's. what do you think, how does it fit into the jigsaw puzzle of russian collusion -- trump/russian collusion? >> from an intelligence perspective. here's how i would look at it, if i would hear this one data point i would immediately walk it back and say, why would this individual suddenly be going out and soliciting proposals and receiving proposals related to influence operations targeting a
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narrow bandwidth of voters. that means he had a conversation with someone or heard a directive from someone to go out and find this information. what's interesting is trump had already had cambridge analytica for over a year, jared kushner and steve bannon were on the board of the company already carrying out the operations. which means there was something more specific they wanted and this side group was out to try to help them acquire that information. we would later find out there were other groups also trying to find hillary's e-mails during that time. >> and all the time donald junior is out there trying to organize something at the trump tower. it's a lot of arms to this octopus. the israeli firm known as ci group, that drafted those, was run by someone who met with donald trump jr. at the trump
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tower. and they were known for meeting with a russian oligarch in the seychelles. around that same time, by the way, nato reportedly paid $2 million to joe zamel, the owner of the firm, that's according to the times that reports the reason for the payment has been of keen interest to mr. mueller. what do you make of this unexplained $2 million payment to the israeli firm in question? >> well, george nader had also been facilitating operations for the united arab emirates by linking the group to the uae government. it could be that. but we don't know. all we any is there's unexplained money flying around at a time that psychological influence operations by this israeli group were paramount for almost everybody. another key point to this is,
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robert mueller went to israeli with israeli authorities and they tore cy group apart. they interviewed everybody, went there, seized computers and documents. this group is a black hole in the story of which we can only learn more and see whether they were actually tied to moscow in some way or just an independent operation that trump funded. >> can't wait to see the puzzle when it's all put together, perhaps sometimes this fall. up next, add another name to the unusually long list of departures for the trump administration. this one on her own feet. what does nikki haley's exit signal a month before the midterms? there she is, on good terms, quitting. you're watching "hardball." rms, quitting you're watching "hardball.
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lucky girl to have been able to lead the state that raised me and to serve a country i love so very much. no, i am not running for 2020. i can promise you what i'll be doing is campaigning for this one. jared is such a hidden genius that no one understands. i mean, to redo the nafta deal with way he did. what i've done working with him on the middle east peace plan, it is so unbelievably well done. and ivanka has been a great friend. and they do a lot of things behind the scenes. >> welcome back to "hardball." that was nikki haley today declaring she's stepping down at the end of this year as u.s. ambassador to the u.n. the move is said to have caught administration officials offguard. that's not good. one of the highest level women in the cabinet, haley joins many in the cabinet. some people are questioning the timing of this announcement. let's watch them.
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>> something doesn't smell right. something's weird. i can't put my finger on it. either there's another shoe to drop from a trump standpoint, something we don't know and she wants to get out of the way of, or alternative this was there kwurry put in yesterday on private planes. >> according to bloomburg, many in the white house were in the dark on why exactly she's doing this. why she's leaving. they're asking themselves why now just before the midterms. let's bring in our round table. we have all heavy weights here. round table, i've always been impressed by her, she brought down the flag, she said i'm not confused. she always seems proactive. she's up to something. she never reacts. what's she up to. >> she's leaving when the administration is on a high and using the language the president will love, calling jared a
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genius, saying i'm a lucky girl -- >> that's one of the president's e rog nous zones, say something nice about his son-in-law. >> i've been talking to people who were close to nikki haley and helped her get elected in south carolina. this is a woman who has high -- >> there's nothing left. two senate seats taken by republicans what would she run for now? >> there's reporting that she and her husband need to pay bills, they're millions of dollars in debts. >> did she get offered a company job? >> you can see if she didn't get recruited before, she will be now. this shows what a savvy operator she is, leaves before the midterms, gets a splashy beautiful departure, what did he call her, glamorous? the highest praise trump can give. >> he's a looks-ist so it's high
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praise. >> she's the rare official leaving having kept the trump people happen and also keeping the moderate republican donor wing happy -- >> can you keep the cooties of trump off you? >> i'm not sure you can. >> it looks like she got off cootie free. >> or she kept as few cooties on her as you can in the trump administration. she's one of the few aides that enjoys popularity with the republicans and democrats. and she doesn't have any background in the corporate sector, there's money to be made, a book deal, a few speeches and she can get back out there and run. say she did push in on areas the trump people did not. >> this is -- >> maybe mike pence's running meat. >> what do you have on this, lisa? >> what do i have on this? >> give me something. >> i'm impressed by her
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savviness. if she left after the midterms, that's when everybody leaves. you're another person in the pact. you don't get to come out and have the endorsement -- >> she's top of the fold in the "new york times" tomorrow. it's your paper, don't you know? >> i'll say what's so abnormal about this is normal. you had nikki haley doing what most people would do in the white house, talking to the president saying i'm going to do this and leaving on this date. usually you have people fired via twitter, motorcades following james comey in l.a.. and you have nikki haley saying here's my nice departure moment. >> pop star taylor swift in a lengthy instagram post urged her followers to vote in the elections. how big is her reach? barack obama has 18 million followers on instagram, president trump has 10.
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she has over 100 million. according to vote.com nearly 60,000 people registered in the 24 hours after her post sunday night. that's more than one third the total registrations last month and more than all in august. but registering a vote does not mean a voter will show up on election day. jacob sob of spoke to people in california and asked for their plans on election day. watch this. >> we're with nbc news and i'm trying to figure out is anybody here going to vote in the election on november 6th? anybody? anybody? nobody is going to vote? >> that's life in the o.c.. this reminds me of jaywalking by the way. >> right. taylor swift, i think part of why this was so powerful is she shied away from politics. there's some people like john legend. he's out all the time for barack
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obama or jay-z and beyonce, they did a lot for barack obama and hillary clinton. but taylor swift held back. so when she comes out i think it catches a lot of attention. >> i was at the bee jann say jay-z concert for hillary clinton and there were people i asked the question, are you going to vote? they said maybe i'll vote. so this idea that even for beyonce, who i love dearly, there's a limit to what you can do in, say, politics. >> oprah winfrey has that kind of sway, she'll sell books magically. i think she helped obama. i don't know if taylor swift can because that age group doesn't tend to show up. >> i think there was a poll that came out today from a civic think tank that studies millennial voting outreach and registration for voters has gone
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up for this midterm. one thing different about taylor swift that has captured interests, is she comes from graphics that do not vote for democrats. she started out as a country star, grew up in tennessee. so for her to say she has an issue with this administration, i think will capture the attention of some of her fans who don't pay attention to some of those issues as much. >> what do you decide? you're so grown up -- i'm kidding. i look like you know a lot more than you say even here. is this something that matters or something to talk about? >> i think it's a lot to talk about. because i spoke to my friends in miami who are more interested in drake concerts who are talking about other things and sometimes they have no idea what's going on. even when i talk to them about brett kavanaugh, they're not talking about this.
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the midterms have caught people's attention so maybe that changes. it's an uphill battle. >> everyone doesn't need to vote, they need a slightly larger share of young voters. >> we're talking about the person who never bothers to register isn't going to change much. people just don't pay attention because they don't have the education maybe to follow it. but then the people that bother to register, they go to the trouble of registering and they vote enough they stay registered. but they don't bother to vote in midterms. they're the ones you have to go for. it's harder to register than it is to show up two blocks from your house and vote. except kids away at college i realize it's complicated. you have to make a little effort, call your parents figure it out. the round table is sticking with us. next these three will tell me something i don't know. you're watching "hardball." methw you're watching "hardball. so why wouldn't you take something for the most important part of you... your brain. with an ingredient originally discovered in jellyfish,
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we're back with the "hardball" round table. tell me something i know -- i don't know. >> brett kavanaugh being on the -- this is seen ruth bader ginsburg came from there, clarence thomas came from there. whoever gets that job is instantly looked at as next supreme court justice in some circles. >> i was in the detroit suburbs, the eight mile. and i wanted to see, you know, republicans have been spending a lot of time talking about how this is such a boost for them. it was hard for me to imagine that democrats could be more excited about the selection. but i can report from the detroit suburbs that democrats, particularly female democrats are supersonic excited. >> macomb county. "d" or "r"? >> that's tough. i'm out of the prediction business. >> gene?
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>> after senator lindsey graham's performance some say during the kavanaugh hearings -- >> that's a good word. >> some thought that he was interested in jeff sessions' job, wanting to be attorney general. but he told "the washington post" today that he has absolutely no interest in that. he feels like there's more he can do in the senate to help trump's vision of making america great move forward. >> he wants to be around during trump, and after trump, forever. he wants to end up a building. lindsey graham wants to be like richard russell, the bachelor that's there forever. i'm betting on lindsay to be around when we're all dead in miami on a bench somewhere. thank you. when we return, let me finish tonight with something i've learned about leaders.
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let me finish tonight with something i've learned about leaders. there was this scene at the 1956 democratic national convention where a young guy running for vice president could sense that balloting was going the other way. let's go, he said, and went rushing his way up to the podium. before most observers you what was happening this losing candidate asked the delegates to award the nomination to the other guy. it was only a moment. he was only up in that national spotlight for the littlest bit of time. but it was unforgettable. john f. kennedy had maze himself by his quick wittedness and the
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gutsy decision the man to beat. people like people who make decisions. who act before events make them do it, who act in a way that leads the way. it's how we spot leaders. the united states ambassador to the u.n. nikki haley strikes me much the same way. when the the uproar arose over the confederate flag, the south carolina governor said to take it down. she got two state senators to go along with her. she act and made the call. someone said she'd been confused about an issue. her answer came back rapidly and powerfully. i don't get confused. she didn't let the dust settle. she sent it flying. well, today ambassador haley declared her intention to leave her post at year's end. i don't know why, but i do know in, she is proactively getting out ahead of something. it's the mark of her political
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behavior, not waiting for others or events to take control, but grabbing the reins herself, steering events her way. it's a stirring thing to watch. we've seen a bit of it before from people who turn out to be our leaders. that's hardball for now. thanks for being with us. tonight on "all in". >> you cannot be civil with a political party that wants to destroy what you stand for. >> drawing the battle lines. >> you don't give power to an angry left wing mob. and that's what they've become. >> tonight as the party of trump paints the majority of americans as an angry mob, new evidence their campaign is not working. plus -- >> ted cruz, tough as texas. >> why today could be decisive for beto o'rourke's quest to unse