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you can rest now. and i can take it from here. >> that's all for this edition of "dateline." i'm natalie morales. thanks for watching. >> i'm craig melvin. >> and i'm natalie morales. >> and this is "dateline." >> it was a whirlwind love affair. i felt like this was the one that i'd been waiting for. maybe it was too good to be true. did he love me or was this all a game? >> a abuse businesswoman falls for a dashing doctor. but her daughters have doubts. >> i had lots of suspicions. she thinks his fingernails are dirty and this sdrnt look to her like the hands of an actual doctor. >> who is this the guy?
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>> his name was dirty john. >> this woman knew him all too well. >> i started snooping and i found everything. >> this reporter made some unnerving discoverses, too. the story of his dirty deeds riveted the nation in a hit podcast. >> this is dirty john. >> but dirty was about about to turn dark. >> he's got duct tape. he's got all the tools ready to kidnap her. >> would this mom and her daughters learn the truth in time? >> she was in a panic. she said i saw john outside in a car. >> a story ending in savagery that would stun even police. >> there's no way he gets away with this unless he kills her. woke to "dateline." after a string of failed relationships, deborah finally thought she found her mr. right.
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from the get-go, deborah's daughters said something felt wrong about him. so the girls started digging into his past. their harrowing search for answers would reveal a double life and expose a dangerous man. but would the truth be discovered too late? here is keith morrison with the women and dirty john. >> in the beginning was design, natural, human desire for connection, for love. so she aimed her arrow at that online ocean of intimate strangers and found him. >> police, fire or paramedics? >> hi. i need an ambulance right away and the police. >> it was summertime when the awful climax came. a late afternoon, a marmalade
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sun beaming down on the apartment complex in newport beach, california. that's when they heard it. >> this woman is just screaming. >> the whole complex must have heard it, terrified, howling, desperate. >> is she okay? >> there was a man down there. he had a knife. he was stabbing the woman. no one was helping her. >> it's really bad. >> i understand. we have officers on the way. >> too late. too late. >> they're doing cpr on somebody. >> the bloody ending. but the story, the whole terrible tale, is much deeper than that one thing, dreadful though it was. a story christopher gawford of the los angeles times spent months unraveling, strand by disturbing strand.
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>> it's a story about trust and betrayal, it's a story about family. >> about a woman, two protective daughters and what those daughters did when the man came into their life before the death in the parking lot. >> the story became a podcast produced with the podcast network wonder, the number one podcast in the country for a time voted by "entertainment weekly," "usa today" as the best of 2017. the story and the man at the heart of it was called dirty john. >> he was a very creative, with super manipulative care can is mattock, handsome, charming, intelligent. he was a nightmare to everybody. >> but not to her. to deborah newell, the woman who
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with presented herself on the dating website to john, with anesthesiologist, away charming. >> he was a family man, loved his kids. >> not that attracting men had ever been difficult for deborah or anyone in the family, according to her daughter, tara. >> men kind of flocked to them. >> who is it about the women in your family? >> well, they have really great hearts and they're pretty decent looking. >> good women, actually, successful, attractive. >> i love those bar stools. >> deborah owned a thriving interior design firm and a moving company and a silk flowers business, had dozens of employees, certainly no money
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worries. but she was in her 50s, actively looking. >> we were very judgmental of all the men that she dated. >> a little too judgmental? maybe. >> me and my sister could go over the top sometimes, just very protective of my mom.. >> but now deborah wanted a romance, just for her, on her terms. >> i had always done everything for my children, so i felt like it was me time. >> and this guy on the website was me time to a tee. >> he's just back from a year in iraq where he's volunteered with doctors without boarders. >> he was charming, kind of old fashioned. when he asked her out, he didn't just wait somewhere. he waited in her car. >> he insisted on waiting upstairs for me. said that's what a gentleman does.
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>> on the second date, he arrived in medical scrubs and he was handsome and tall and very fit. >> he set me off my feet, took me everywhere i wanted to go. i fell in love. >> she called me one day and told me that she met someone amazing, that she really liked this guy, she wanted me to meet him. >>. >> but true to form, they reacted to someone in her life. especially tara's sister. >> she didn't like him immediately. i thought, oh, she'll like him eventually. he'll win her over. >> deborah rented a house in a picturesque part of new port called balboa island and she ran her business with a new likeness
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and at night was loved by this accomplished doctor, this sensitive man. >> what did he do for you? >> everything, from back rubs, we took walks every night. he held my hand. he was everything you want want. >> you've got it finally. >> yeah. >> then, just before thanksgiving, as tara helped her mother move into the balboa house -- >> he started moving his stuff in, too. >> tara didn't like it, not a bit. she confronted her mother. >> i told her, it looks fishy. i don't get it. she told me i needed to mind my own business. and he came up behind her. >> what did he say? >> he was saying you're just trying to get your mom all to yourself and i started screaming back at him, no, john, that's what you are trying to do. >> the next day was thanksgiving
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and deborah, quite fed up, told her suspicious daughters not to bother showing up for dinner. >> underneath one of you? >> neither one of us. >> what was that like? >> really hard. >> hard for deborah, too, but she needed her own life. she and john asked a counselor for advice. >> and the counselor suggestion that i have rules for the girls. >> boundaries. >> this therapist said, look, you have a right to be happy. this is your relationship. and jan's position was the therapist is absolutely right. >> so deborah weighed the options, listen to her family or embrace what felt like the best thing to come along in years. she chose love, or what certainly felt like it. >> what's the old expression, until death to us part. >> the bond between mother and daughter is already fraying might just break thanks to a
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startling decision by deborah. >> coming up -- >> i knew my family would be -- not very happy with me. >> the daughters fight back by doing some digging into john. >> she bought these trackers for cars and she put one on my mom's tesla. so she found out where downwas going. >> when "date line" continues. whether you were borne for more dance-offs... more travels... or more touchdowns. get the immune support that gives you more. airborne gummies have 50% more vitamin-c than emergen-c... plus our crafted blend of
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♪ >> reporter: las vegas, nevada. the great glittering temples to gambling will happily take your money, of course and perhaps you'll leave the city a little poorer. and if you want to bet your heart in las vegas, well, you can put that on the line, too, if you're in a betting mood. and debra newell was. >> i felt very adored and very loved, and i thought, "well, if he's the love of my life. i'm ready." >> reporter: they'd been dating two months when she went to vegas on business in december, 2014. john meehan went along. and -- >> we went to a courthouse, and just got married before a judge. like that? >> just like that. >> reporter: married. nobody there but them and their secret. they decided, said debra, they wouldn't tell anyone. >> i knew my family would be not very happy with me. >> reporter: what'd it feel like? >> very mixed emotions.
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a little empty, knowing that they're not on board with this. >> reporter: but that's all on that one side. on the other side, there's this rush of happiness and good feeling, right? >> yes. >> reporter: so debra's daughters, protective as usual, had no idea that their mother was a newlywed. the therapist debra had seen recommended that she keep her relationship separate from her family, but of course christmas was coming. and there were very important family traditions like the one where terra would have her own special time with the nieces and nephews of her extended family. so they made a deal. john would stay in a different room, while terra had the kids to herself. >> she was going to be able to enjoy the kids, and he had to sort of stay away. >> reporter: didn't work out so well. what actually happened? >> well, he walked in with all the presents, and of course the kids congregate all around him. >> he went straight up to them.
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he gave them gifts. >> reporter: like, being santa claus or something. >> something like that. yeah. >> reporter: yeah. i mean, that kind of sort of role. >> yeah. >> reporter: did he do it on purpose? of course, thought terra. >> that made me so upset. >> terra was very emotional. i thought, "just suck it up. you know, it's christmas. have fun. >> reporter: instead she felt that that man had come and usurped. >> yes. >> reporter: something. >> yes. >> reporter: he had not only stolen their christmas, thought the daughters, but both of them worried he was stealing their too trusting mother. taking advantage of her. she just let him drive her car. why would he need to? wasn't he a prosperous doctor an anesthesiologist? couldn't he afford a car? well there was a reason, debra told them, that while john was in iraq, working with doctors without borders, he was robbed. >> his house, his clothes, his cars, he was working with -- insurance company of getting the claim. so i let him borrow my car. >> reporter: john would get all
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his money back soon enough, said debra. didn't wash with terra. sounded like a shaggy dog tale. >> at that time i had lots of suspicions. >> reporter: and that's when she and her sister decided to do some snooping. >> she bought these trackers for cars. and she went and put one on my mom's tesla. so she found out where john was going. >> reporter: where was he going? >> he was going to multiple doctor's offices. >> reporter: not so unusual, perhaps, for an anesthesiologist. but the sisters noticed something. >> he was there for not that long of time. >> reporter: not long enough to conduct any medical procedure so what were those quick visits all about? seemed more like a man trying to get access to something. like maybe drugs. it was just a hunch, but they went to debra with that. said maybe he's an addict. and debra refused to entertain their wild suspicions. >> reporter: this was more like, "stop interfering in my life?" >> somewhat. yes.
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but i'd fallen in love. >> reporter: debra's daughters were not about to be put off. >> one of her daughters is particularly suspicious. she doesn't know why he wears surgical scrubs everywhere. it seems to be a costume he's wearing. she thinks his fingernails are dirty, and this does not look to her like the hands of an actual doctor. >> reporter: and so they started digging. an investigation that would lead halfway across the country. to the depths of evil. to an appointment with death. coming up -- troubling revelations about john. >> they learned that he was not a doctor. >> discovers that were about to go from disturbing to terrifying. >> i said, "he's very, very dangerous." >> when "dateline" continues.
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♪ >> reporter: terra newell and cash, her miniature australian shepherd, were inseparable. >> he has unconditional love. and he wants to be there no matter what. >> reporter: terra went to cosmetology school, but chose to work with four legged clients instead, as a dog groomer. >> reporter: what do you like about dogs? >> i really like that they're innocent. they don't have any evil in them unless they were taught to have evil in them. >> reporter: sure.
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and terra was something of a student of evil. she was a fan of the tv show "the walking dead." zombies. she had a feeling that evil was lurking in the life of john meehan. so did her sister. they knew he was hiding something, said reporter christopher goffard, and they were determined to find out what it was. >> they hired a private investigator to look into his past. >> reporter: debra, meanwhile, was in love. the newlyweds had settled into a simple life on newport's balboa island. debra, convinced she'd found the perfect man. even when, sometimes -- things didn't quite make sense. like the time she picked up the mail, and saw a strange return address on a letter to her husband. >> reporter: you opened a letter to him? >> yes, i did. i was so curious. and he was irate. "that's fraud. you know, i can't believe you
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did that." >> reporter: but, what had caught her attention was that letter was from an inmate at the orange county jail. >> reporter: did you read the letter? >> i did. >> reporter: what was in it? >> it was talking about how lucky he was that he had found love, and that his life had turned around. and i'm thinking, "life had turned around? hm," so i questioned him. and he said that he writes and sends care packages to people in prison. >> reporter: sounded plausible enough to debra. but not to the sisters. especially not once their private investigator began reporting his findings on john meehan. >> they learned that he was not a doctor. he was not an anesthesiologist. >> reporter: john had worked as a nurse anesthetist, but not recently. and he certainly had not been in iraq with doctors without borders. instead just before he met debra -- >> they learned that one of his recent addresses was the orange county jail.
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>> john was not a sender of care packages, he had been an inmate. then in march 2015, four months after john moved in with debra the sisters snooped around the balboa house -- and jackpot! they found a stash of paperwork john had left there. legal documents, police reports. >> reports that he's stalked other women and that other women had restraining orders on him. >> reporter: john's papers outlined a long criminal history. multiple arrests and incarcerations, drug convictions -- alarming stuff. >> and debra was -- hesitant to believe this stuff. she believed john. >> reporter: even after her daughters told her what they'd found. debra went straight to john. and he said they had the wrong guy. >> he said, "there's gonna be allegations that other
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john meehans did." and i thought, "well, okay, you've got a point." >> reporter: john said he was a victim of mistaken identity in some cases, and in others, he was framed. >> and he said, "i was set up. and i said, "but you lied to me." he goes, "because i knew you would never date me if you knew the truth." and i said, "you're right. i wouldn't have." >> reporter: thing was, john was so -- sad. seemed so sincerely contrite. >> he started crying and crying and crying. and he said, "please forgive me. i love you so much. i can never live without you." >> reporter: and it was true that he made her feel like she was the only woman in the world. and when they were alone together she felt truly loved. >> and i'm thinking, "okay, 90% of me doesn't believe him, but there's that 10% that maybe he's right. and i'm gonna throw away the person that i fell in love with without trying to work it through." >> reporter: and so she accepted his explanations, and she forgave him.
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>> reporter: there was always a reason. >> yes. >> reporter: in march 2015, soon after they found that stash of papers, terra and her sister discovered their mother was married to the guy. that was it. they were fed up. refused after that to speak to her. >> reporter: this was a very big, bad problem in your life. >> yeah. >> reporter: just how big and how bad they didn't know yet. but buried in that stash of john's papers was the name of someone who did. a detective, way off in ohio. one of the sisters picked up the phone. called him. >> reporter: what'd you think when you got her call? >> i said, "he's very, very dangerous. you need to talk to your mother. you need to have her call me. i will tell her everything." >> reporter: that is, the strange and disturbing tale that begins with -- her.
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♪ welcome back to date line. suspicions about their mother's new husband, john meehan, had driven her daughters to become amateur detectives. so far, they uncovered a hornet's nest of deception. not only had john lied about being a doctor, several women had restraining orders against him and he had served time for multiple crimes. yet deborah was still standing by her man. now, a woman from john's past was about to tell him even more disturbing tale. was deborah in danger? here is keith morrison with the women and dirty john. >> reporter: who was this man who'd stolen debra's heart? this john meehan? tonia bales had no idea either, when he stole her heart decades ago. >> he was playful. he was interested, engaging, smiley. >> reporter: it was the late
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1980s. tonia was a young nurse anesthetist in dayton, ohio. john was in law school there. until he met her, that is, and said he had a kind of epiphany. >> he said, "you know, i'm not even sure i'll be happy bein' an attorney. i think i wanna be a nurse anesthetist." and i think my jaw fell to the ground, because i thought he was, you know, a second-year law student. >> reporter: in fact, he wasn't. he had been kicked out. though he didn't tell her. >> all the days of my life. >> all the days of my life. >> reporter: so, in her blissful ignorance, she married him in her family's church. in 1990. >> mr. and mrs. john meehan. >> reporter: and she helped put him through nursing school. they had two daughters, before things stopped adding up. >> and i found out that he was having an affair. >> reporter: tonia wondered, what else did she not know about her soon-to-be ex-husband? like, why did he refuse to invite his family to their wedding? why not let her even meet them? she decided to call his mother.
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>> i said, "dolores, this is tonia. i'm married to your son, john." and the phone was quiet for a minute. and she said, "oh, tonia. i knew you'd call me some day." >> reporter: wow. >> and so then, of course, my heart was racin' and my knees were shaking just to make the phone call. and then she just unloaded on me, you know, all the details of trouble in the past. >> reporter: according to his own mother, john had been cheating and stealing and lying for years. even lied to tonia about his age. lopped off five years. oh, and he'd been convicted of cocaine trafficking. >> she said, you know, "is he still using drugs?" and i said, "what?" >> reporter: so in something like shock, tania became a sleuth. who was this man? >> i started snooping. and i found everything. it was under my nose all the time. >> reporter: evidence of a criminal double life. and something else. >> a cedar box full of fentanyl
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and versed and some other things that aren't controlled substances. >> reporter: she started watching that cedar box. >> and things did come and go. so now i thought -- >> reporter: it's a stash. >> it's a stash. yeah. >> reporter: was he using his position as a nurse to steal drugs? >> reporter: like getting a ticket to be in the candy store all day long. >> right. i mean, it's like puttin' an alcoholic as a bartender. >> reporter: she told the authorities. she had to. it was the law. >> he had to be stopped. he was gonna hurt patients. >> reporter: and on a dime. >> he turned on me. he flipped like a switch. >> reporter: now the man she once thought she knew turned scary. threatening. she began recording their phone conversations. >> listen to me, tonia. >> i'm listening. >> i got a big smile on my face and you know why? because it's gonna get done. >> what's gonna get done? you're not making any sense. >> well, it don't have to. you will understand when the time comes. and that's all i gotta say.
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when it happens tonia and you see it in your eye you remember it was me, okay? >> remember what, john? >> keep that in mind. it was me. tonia, you enjoy your time left on this earth, okay? because that's what it's gonna come down to. >> reporter: he was arrested for making threats against tonia in june 2001 was convicted of menacing and put on probation. >> reporter: he wasn't the man she thought he was? >> that's exactly right. there was another version of john. >> reporter: dennis luken was a police detective back then. he investigated the source of those drugs tonia found in the cedar box. he started at john's house. and found a gun. illegal because john was on probation. so he was arrested again and sent to jail. >> when he went to montgomery county jail, i called a supervisor. i said, "you've got an individual there, john meehan, and he's gonna try to con you outta drugs." he says, "he
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already has." he claimed he fell outta the top bunk and he got pain medication. >> reporter: you're dealing with an incorrigible person here. >> yes, sir. you're dealing with an addict. a very smart, articulate addict. >> reporter: eventually, thanks to luken, john did jail time for stealing drugs in ohio and michigan. and tonia felt guilty. wondering if she'd missed warning signs. wondered what else john might have hidden from her. never thought about the clue. way back at the beginning. on her wedding video. >> and the groomsmen who'd had some drinks and have their arms around each other, and they're talking about how they met him. >> we're here to celebrate john. >> one of the groomsmen said -- >> john meehan's nickname is filthy john meehan. >> reporter: filthy john, over the years, became dirty john and the nickname stuck. >> reporter: you found out later on, there was a story to that. >> yes. he was basically conning little old women out of money for jobs that he didn't do. and also that he had a way with
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the ladies. >> reporter: luken discovered darker secrets as well. john supplied the opioids that killed his own addicted brother. he was alone with his sick father when the old man died rather suddenly. john wasn't charged in those cases. but there were others, said luken. and as the years went on, he developed a certain criminal specialty. >> he would go on dating websites and he would find women that usually had good financial backing. he always told people he was a doctor. >> reporter: he seemed like an ideal catch, i suppose. >> yes. >> reporter: for a lot of these women? >> he was a true conman. he'd take their money and when they would find out about him, john would threaten 'em, he would terrorize 'em. >> reporter: how bad was he? >> john was the most dangerous, treacherous, manipulative, deceitful, criminal that i'd investigated in 40 years of law enforcement.
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>> reporter: once terra learned about john's past, she was consumed with worry. >> i was very distraught at the time. >> reporter: because this dangerous man was now married to a very successful business woman who happened to be terra's mother. >> he couldn't get enough of me. >> reporter: that's a good feeling. >> it is. >> reporter: the trickery of love. >> yes. >> reporter: trickery. but something far worse than that was coming soon. coming up -- one of debra's daughters is about to make an ominous discovery. >> she was in a panic. she said, "i saw john. and i said, "where?" she goes, "outside in a car." >> are these terrified family's worst fears about to come true? when "dateline" continues.
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>> reporter: debra newell had fallen in love with a conman. and when her daughters spoke with the detective who'd been investigating john meehan for years. >> i says, "this guy is bad news. you need to get your mother away from him." >> reporter: debra had bought a house near las vegas where john could live away from her family, she split her time between there and orange county.
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but the daughters went into rescue mode. one thing they found especially alarming was yet another police report about dirty john. this one from just two years earlier and much closer to home. the police in laguna beach had arrested john meehan for stalking a woman -- and discovered he'd rented an office space. in which they found zip ties, cyanide, and two loaded guns. >> what did all that say to you? >> he might be a killer. and she has to get out of this. >> has to? >> has to. >> reporter: john had an explanation of course, even for that cyanide. >> he says he has multiple sclerosis. and that he kept the capsules around in case he needed to kill himself if it got too painful for him. >> reporter: this time, however john's story didn't ring true, not even to debra. >> he still continued to treat me incredibly well. but he tried to isolate me from everyone. >> especially your family. >> especially my family. >> reporter: and now, chastened and afraid, she reconciled with her daughters and read everything they had uncovered about john meehan's past. >> i assume by this time you
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didn't feel in love with him anymore? >> no. >> what did you feel? >> confusion. i thought, "how could this man fake it to this degree? did he love me or was this all a game?" and i realized i was his newest victim. >> reporter: in april 2016, 16 months after marrying john meehan, she fled from the home they shared in vegas back to orange county. and from a safe distance, she filed for an annulment. and soon discovered just as tonia bales had discovered years before that john could turn on a dime. he started by trying to ruin her reputation -- sent weird, inappropriate emails to her colleagues, her clients. >> did he send photographs of you to anybody? >> he sent nude photos, yeah. >> that's a nightmare for any woman to be in. >> oh yeah. >> there were so many things that he did, but one of 'em, he burnt my car. he took it, stole it, and then
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set it on fire. >> did he threaten you physically? >> yes, but not in a direct way. he would say, "boo, i know where you are. it's not gonna be for long." >> reporter: the same way he'd threatened tonia. >> tonia you enjoy your time left on this earth, okay? because that's what it's gonna come down to. >> i went into hiding. i bought a dark wig -- changed my clothes, got a rental car, stayed in different hotels. i went everywhere that he wouldn't suspect. >> how long did that go on? >> six months. >> wow. >> yeah. >> reporter: now, stories john had told her before she left played over and over in debra's worried mind. disturbing stories. he'd told similar ones to tonia years before stories about the mafia. >> if they wanna get back at you -- say you took money from them or something -- they don't kill you. they kill someone you love.
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because then you live in pain the rest of your life knowing that your actions caused the death of a loved one and now you don't have them. i learned that from him. >> reporter: and the man debra once loved she now feared. >> that had to be a very, very strange feeling. >> very much, yes. scared for my life. >> reporter: and not just her own life. >> i was afraid he'd kill my mom. i was also afraid he would kill me or my sister or someone. >> after all, they'd ruined all his plans. in the summer of 2016, debra began staying, in secret, with her other daughter. hoping she was safe there. and then it was the night of august 19th. >> she came home and she was in a panic. she said, "i saw john. i saw john." and i said, "where?" she goes, "outside in a car." >> reporter: watching them? he was supposed to be in las vegas. why was he back in orange county? she didn't have to wait long to
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debra newell had accepted the reality that her husband john meehan was a dangerous con man. she filed for annulment and was hiding in fear for her lives and that of her children. her daughter saw him lurking outside their home. he came prepared. but here's keith with more on the conclusion and dirty john. >> a 14-year-old was returned home from her junior life gard training chen she heard a woman screaming out of the parking lot of her newport beach building. >> i never heard a scream like that before. >> most would dive under the covers and say, i hope that stops. >> once i heard that, i knew what i had to do. >> she raced to the parking lot. her mother called 911.
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>> she said she heard someone screaming. >> we have officers on the way with lights and siren sirens. someone saw blood? >> i don't know. she heard screaming. >> i saw everything going on. i saw him actually stab her. >> that woman being stabbed was tara who with her dog cash had just stepped out of her car to find someone waiting. dirty john. >> he said, do you remember me. he looked me right in the eyes. >> there was no pause, no time to think. tara sitting here talking about it was still struggling with what happened, still visibly keeping an emotional distance as if it happened to somebody else. >> he was trying to push me into the car. he actually had the trunk wide open. >> trunk. so he wanted you in the trunk of his car. >> yes.
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>> john was 6'2", a foot taller than tara. as he pushed her, he began hitting her with a bag, something hard in it. >> it felt like i was getting punched over and over again. >> but it wasn't that. it was a knife in the bag, cutting her, slicing into her. >> i put my arm up with my purse above my heart and i tried to get away from him. i was screaming. he put his hand over my mouth, and i bit as hard as i could. >> cash the dog barked furiously, bit into john's ankle. >> i got thrown down onto the ground somehow, and i was just pedal kickling him trying to block the knife when he's stabbing me. and i kicked the knife out of his hand and it landed on my right-hand side. >> and then full of adrenaline, she did something astonishing. >> i picked up the knife and
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started whaling on him and stabbing him. i stabbed him at the tom of the head and the last time was in the eyeball. >> did you aim for that? >> i did. that's the zombie kill. >> that show, "the walking dead,"" her education for fighting evil. >> what did you understand from watching that show about how you deal with zombies? >> you have to kill them in the head, like you have to kill their brain. >> the police arrive. their dash cam video picked up the lifeguard leading to a shaking tara who still terrified called her mother. >> i kept fighting. i'm sorry. i knew this was going to happen. did i not tell you he was going to try to hurt us?
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>> she said, mom, i just killed your husband, i'm so sorry. and i'm thinking what? >> debra raced over there. >> you could see police cars blocking it off, fire engines. it was crazy. >> they wouldn't let you in. >> they said it was a crime scene. >> john never regained consciousness, and four days later, dirty john was dead. right after the attack, newport beach detective found tara's killer at the hospital, her dog still guarding her. >> she told me the whole story. >> the whole story is a pretty complicated mess. >> yes. >> as doctors treated tara's wounds, the detective began investigating and the whole family waited and worried. >> what were you afraid of? >> well, i didn't know if they would for sure know that it was him attacking her and it was self-defense. >> you were afraid they might charge her with something.
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>> yes. >> there's a process the law must follow. careful consideration. august became september, october, november. debra didn't know it, but the detective had discovered something. in the trunk of john's car. >> we found a backpack with numerous other knives inside. we found zip ties, duct tape, passport. >> it took some organization. it took thinking. he's planned this out. this was a revenge killing. >> orange county district attorney. >> there's ang of this young woman in the hospital with her dog sitting on her bed. talk about a picture saying a thousand words. it screams out that this is an innocent woman who came very close to being murdered by a really bad guy and fought bravely and survived. >> the prosecutor sate it was an easy decision. this was self-defense, case
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closed. >> did a feeling come with that? >> a sense of relief that it's finally over. >> john meehan's ex-wife was working when she got the news. >> do you remember that moment? >> oh, yeah. it made me tremble. i was in the middle of a case and it popped up on the screen as a notification john was killed. by the time i took the patient out of the room, i was in tears. i wasn't in tears because he died. i was in tears because i had to tell his children. that made me very sad to have to tell them. it was awful. >> her daughters 16 and 21 at the time said they regretted not being able to show how well they turned out in spite of him. and now debra still struggles with guilt. >> i would have never, ever in my entire life put my kids in fear -- or put them in danker. that was the last thing on my mind that he would be going after one of my kids.
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>> do you feel lucky in a way? >> oh, i feel very lucky. i believe tara saved many lives, saved my life, saved many other victims. >> tara was diagnosed with ptsd. she still has some healing to do, but she returned with us to that parking lot. >> i don't want to poke and prod too mump, but what happens inside your stomach when you're here? >> i get a lot of anxiety. i have flashbacks of me running down the ramp and like going to the cement. >> she gamely showed us the spot where she looked death in the eye and struck back. this wasn't an easy thing to do. >> i'm just taking it all in right now. >> uh-huh. i think you're a tough cookie, right? >> yeah. that's what a lot of people say. i guess so. >> and dirty john meehan is an ever more distant memory now.
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his trail of victims safe from his terror thanks to a young woman and a little dog who fought for her life and won. >> that's all for this edition of "dateline." i'm natalie morales. thanks for watching. good morning. i'm dara brown in no, sir at msnbc headquarters. it's 7:00 in the east, 4:00 out west. here's what's happening. khashoggi officials now say the "washington post" journalist is dead. 17 days to go. the president ramping up his media blitz and going after dems and the one issue he's using to whip up enthusiasm. >> anybody who votes for a democrat now is crazy. when you look at what's coming up, crazy. democrats produce mobs.
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