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are here that worship together, that live together that are neighbors. everybody is walking around all the time. it is a true walking community. so especially on a saturday morning, you're going to see all different kinds of types of people that are out and that are together. i think that's what hits so hard about this. these are people that you see on the streets every day. something you don't see in a lot of communities anymore. >> thank you very much. appreciate the time. thanks for the reporting as well. invaluable as well. if you're just joining us at the half hour, the latest now on the synagogue massacre. a new vigil is planned for later today in pittsburgh after the worst anti-semitic attack in u.s. history left 11 dead and six injured when a gunman opened fire on a service at the tree of life synagogue, a block from where i'm standing here on squirrel hill in pittsburgh. clouds of people gathered to honor the people at candlelight vigils. the identities of the individuals have not been released. prosecutors arrested robert bowers. a 46-year-old pittsburgh resident who officials believe
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acted alone. he now faces 29 federal charges, including hate crimes. attorney general jeff sessions said the suspect could face the death penalty. authorities are planning to hold another press conference at account eastern time. we'll brio owe 9:00 eastern time. we'll bring that to you live. president trump had a lot to say about this calling it a horrible, horrible thing. the president linked it to a broader problem with hate in this country and all over the world. white house correspondent kelly o'donnell has more on the president's response to this tragedy. >> the president considered scrapping his travel plans but decided the campaign must go on. >> we can't let evil change our life and change our schedule. >> addressing several thousand young people at an agriculture convention in indiana. >> there must be no tolerance for anti-semitism in america or for any form of religious or racial hatred or prejudice.
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you know that. you know that very well. >> the president devoted nearly 20 minutes of his speech to the pittsburgh massacre. condemning it as evil. >> this was a baby naming ceremony at a sacred house of worship on the holy day of sabbath. >> the president told reporters he had spoken with daughter ivanka who converted to judaism, her husband's faith. ivanka tweeted, america is stronger than the acts of a depraved bigot and anti-semite. sympathy from world leaders. canada's justin trudeau and benjamin netanyahu. the vice president rejected any suggestion the president's rhetoric stoked the terror scene this week, including the mailed pipe bombs. >> frankly, people on both sides of the aisle use strong language about our political differences. i just don't think you can
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connect it to threats or acts of violence. >> president trump called for the death penalty and said armed security at the synagogue might have saved lives. kelly o'donnell, nbc news, the white house. >> joining me is julia manchester a reporter with the hill and a correspondent of bloomberg and native son of pennsylvania. >> i want to start with you. i want your reaction to how the president responded to this tragedy yesterday. he tweeted about it very quickly and rather than issuing a formal statement, he fielded questions and talked to reporters on the tarmac at joint base andrews. your sense of how this differs from previous presidents. >> good morning, david. well, this is a marked difference in terms of how the president's rhetoric is what we're used to from seeing from previous administrations. the president condemned the attack but also then said that it can't change way of life. he invoked september 11th at one point during his comments and said that life has to go on.
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but he also very quickly noted that he would like to see the death penalty used for this perpetrator. that's something that was echoed by his attorney general, jeff sessions. it comes, of course following a tumultuous week in this country with the alleged -- the incidents of suspicious packages delivered to prominent democratic officials and many folks raising concerns about the level of political discourse in this country. >> he also talked about gun control. he was fielding questions here. julie, i'll turn to you. let's play a bit of sound about what might need to happen with regard to gun policy as he was on the tarmac of the let's take a listen to tpresident. >> i'll have a -- [ inaudible ] i would like to be able to have the tone that i have. i feel very strongly about it. i'd have a much different tone, frankly, if the press was
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even-handed. >> if you dew poion't mind, i'm to tone it down a little bit, is that okay? i had a feeling you might say that. >> julia, those two clips there illustrating the fact that he's wrestling with tone after what happened here. here. over this past week, we've seen a plethora of responses from him. we saw almost measured. that's really his alibi. you see him -- he becomes more animat animated. he feeds off that energy.
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and the critics who might not be his supporters does and his ton varied in all of this. but this week,, i want to go back to everything that's happened. and then followed by the suspicious packages and then of course, the shooting at the synagogue. this is a very contentious time, i think, in this nation's history, and it also comes before what's going to be a very divisive midterm election. so we know that the president loves to campaign. he loves these rallies, so i'm going to be interested to see how he approaches this, because we know that he's really invested himself into the campaign trail and i want to know if he'll try to stoke more of a unifying tone or if he'll, like, go back to more of this divisive tone that we've seen. >> kevin, to that point, we are just a few days away from the midterm elections. the president says he's going to campaign at ten more of these
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make network great again rallies in support of candidates he's endorsed. what do you think these next few days are going to look like, how do you think the president is going to thread this needle? >> i don't think he's going to change. i think that his tone is that bombastic rhetoric. i do not think it's going to change. i think the way that the president speaks when he's giving a formal address and on script is very different when he's tapping his thumbs behind twitterver versus when he's standing at a make america great rally. i think there's different kinds of tones we've seen from him and it's really dependent upon what -- the crowd that he's trying to speak to. look, i think that the vice president in questions from nbc news specifically asked directly about the rhetoric. i think the republicans are all going to have to answer those same questions on the campaign
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trail, particularly in battleground districts and more moderate districts where the race is tight. i think this particular week, there moment in american political discourse is going to be localized at every single level and republicans are going to be asked the same question that the vice president was asked, the same question that the president was asked. does this type of rhetoric help at all unify and heal the country? we are so used to seeing the kinds of statements, david, come out from people like israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu or canada's justin trudeau or even the first daughter, ivanka trump. a statement of mourning, a statement of pause, a time for reflection, a time for unity. we are not used to seeing the type of comments so shortly after an incident of this nature, of this caliber, coming from the commander in chief. >> julia, last question to you. i just want you to react to what you heard there in the interview
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with the vice president of the united states. he's talking about two sides and sharing responsibility here. to what extent do you think you're starting to see the contours to what the argument is going to be? >> i think a lot of republicans are going to be using that argument that there are two sides. we've seen the president, as well, as other republicans, really refer to congresswoman maxine waters and some of the comments she's made in regards to political discourse. but i think it's going to be a major talking point for republicans. i think a lot of republicans, they don't say it publicly, but they do feel that the president's rhetoric is divisive, especially at these campaign rallies. so i think you're going to see officials like the vice president try to strike more of a unifying tone, saying both sides need to come together and that it's not necessarily just the president. you know, obviously, republicans can't feel -- feel that they can't blame the president publicly for this, but i think you're going to be seeing them, saying it's both sides in a way to make them sound like they're trying to be unifying. >> my thanks to both of you on
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this sunday morning. appreciate the time. thank you both very much. >> thank you. >> i'll see you live again in pittsburgh at the top of the hour. for now, my colleague, milissa rehberger is going to pick up the coverage with what's next if the investigation and those that have talked to the suspect say that he is pure evil. have talked to the suspect say that he is pure evil
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together and we must take action to prevent these tragedies the in the future. we simply cannot accept this violence as a normal part of american life. >> that is pennsylvania governor tom wolf reacting to the synagogue tragedy. i'm milissa rehberger at msnbc headquarters in new york. here is the latest into the mass shooting investigation. there are new details to report today. the new information coming in in a police affidavit report, police now saying that three women and eight men were killed. and in just over an hour, law enforcement officials are scheduled to provide an update. the suspect, is charged with six counts of aggravated assault and 13 counts of ethnic intimidation including hate crimes. also new in the overnight hours, fbi agents raided his apartment along with agents from the atf and bomb squad. hours after interviewing the suspect and describing him to
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nbc as pure evil. we're also learning more about the suspect this morning, as investigators comb through his social media activity and other electronic records. nbc's miguel almaguer picks up the trail. >> multiple gunshots are heard from the lobby. >> reporter: after a hail of gunfire brought terror to this pittsburgh synagogue -- >> they are being attacked. >> reporter: investigators are building the profile of a killer. the alleged shooter, 46-year-old robert bowers, arrested at the scene as authorities tried to determine if the assault rifle and handguns found were purchased legal andly and where from. >> at this point, we have no knowledge that bowers was known to law enforcement before today. >> reporter: with the fbi investigating the shooting as a hate crime, authorities are scouring bowers' digital footprint, including this social media account filled with hate speech and a stream of anti-semitic ramblings.
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also critical of president trump, bowers is believed to have a site on the social networking site jab, posting before the shooting, screw your optics, i'm going in. >> a social media footprint for investigators is a treasure-trove. this is where someone apparently may honestly tell you who they are, what they think, what their motives are. >> reporter: the suspect also posting images of three handguns the, though it's unclear if these were the weapons used. a pittsburgh resident, bowers lived not far from the synagogue, police surrounding the area, combing through his life, piece by piece, as evidence as a hate-fueled innovate begins to emerge. >> investigators are going to not only look at his websites, they're going to look at his telephone, they're going to look at his activities, his travels, realize it's hard for you and i or anyone else to go any place in this country without being seen on some type of surveillance camera, without having our credit card charged. >> reporter: a gathering in a
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house of worship becoming a massacre, and now an urgent search for answers the to the unthinkable crime. >> that was nbc's miguel almaguer reporting. nbc's matt bradley is at the university of pittsburgh medical center. matt, when will we get an update on all the wounded? >> reporter: well, as you mentioned, milissa, we're expecting a police update probably in the next hour or two, that's going to be something like a press conference, where we're hoping to finally get some answers on the identity of those 11 people who were killed. i can tell you that four of the six injured were taken to this hospital right behind me, the t university of pittsburgh medical center. we have no word yet on their status and we're hoping to hear more later on from them. but i spent some time, milissa, last night, in that community of squirrel hill and went to candlelight vigil there. it was organized almost entirely by high school students. and it was just a wrenching experience, polimilissa, there people singing, praying, and they were trying to cheer each other up, trying to really claim this moment and say we're going
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to be moving forward. but some of the people we talked to there, it really just goes far beyond just this synagogue. some of the people in the neighborhood were saying, police stormed into their homes and used their bedrooms as sniper positions when they were trying to take down this suspect after they had kind of lodged himself in one of the upper floors of the synagogue. and it's not just people who were affected by the incident itself. you know, squirrel hill, it's really a kind of religious enclave here in pittsburgh. of the 50,000 jews in the pittsburgh area, about a third of them live in squirrel hill. but it's also a very diverse place. you know, actually, fred rogers of mr. rogers neighborhood, he lived there and he actually died there only a couple of years ago. so it literally is mr. rogers neighborhood. it's just the kind of pluralistic place that this man was trying to target. just that kind of symbol of americans, different types of americans living together and thriving together.
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so this ceremony last night, this candlelight vigil, it was just so emotional and so wrenching. milissa? >> thank you, nbc's matt bradley outside the university of pittsburgh medical center. the next steps for law enforcement in the investigation into the synagogue massacre and what can be done to prevent future attacks.
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what happened in pittsburgh today was not just criminal. it was evil and an attack on innocent americans and an assault on our freedom of religion. there is no place in america for violence or anti-semitism. >> vice president mike pence addressing yesterday's deadly shooting at the tree of life synagogue in pittsburgh. the fbi stepping in to lead the investigation. let me bring in msnbc contributor and retired atf special agent in charge and hostage negotiator, jim kavanaugh. well, jim, sadly, hear we find ourselves again. the suspect did surrender. he has been questioned and has been described as pure evil. so in your opinion, how will the
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fbi lead its investigation from here? >> well, it's going to be a big forensic examination of the scene there at the synagogue for sure. that's going to take them a while. and, of course, the search of the apartment yesterday, scrubbing all of his computers and the normal stuff like that. interviewing any neighbors, witnesses and colleagues or, you know, people he might have associated with, where he worked. apparently one time he was a truck driver, you know, any family members. was he a member of, you know, the apparatus of organized hate. was he a member of a group, whether he joined just online or did he attend any, you know, white power, white hate, alt-right, neo-nazi, klan, anything like that, or was he just, you know, radicalized on the web? so they'll be looking at all of those things. the motives out there, he's published it, he's spoken it while he was committing his
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murders. so the civil rights division at the doj, milissa, and the u.s. attorney, they have a good case, a real solid hate crime case. and the pittsburgh police, they have a real solid state murder case. so the d.a. there, the u.s. attorney, i mean, i don't think there's any real mystery here. just sadness and heartiache anda process of justice that we're going to go through. >> given what you've said and what we know so far about his social media activity, is this type of attack more preventable in the future because of that? is that something that we could look out for? >> well, i mean, it's across the spectrum to prevent these things. it means, i think, really, that we've got to do more to attack, you know, the hate groups that are involved in violence. you want to be a hater, you're free to hate. we can't do anything about it. we really don't want to do anything about it in law enforcement. and we can't because in america, we have free speech.
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so we don't want to do anything to you because you hate. but if you're going to be involved in violence and hate, then we want to really be paying attention to you. >> all right, thank you, as always. that will do it for me. i'm milissa rehberger. thank you for watching. david gura picks up our coverage at the top of the hour live from pittsburgh. [ upbeat music ]
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a synagogue under siege. an attack taking place on the holiest day of the week, the jewish sabbath. 11 people are dead this morning in what's believed to be the deadliest attack on members of the jewish community in u.s. history. reportedly driven by hate, investigators are now charged with figuring out why a lone gunman opened fire on innocent civilians in their house of worship. >> this is the most horrific crime scene i've seen in 22 years with the federal bureau of investigation. members of the tree of life synagogue conducting a peaceful service in their place of worship were brutally murdered by a gunman targeting them simply because of their faith. the suspect's full motive is unknown, but we believe that he was acting alone. >> they heard the shots and they all -- her mom and dad, her friend's mom and dad and son, they just all ran downstairs, i guess, and barricaded themselves in the basement. >> my kid's away at school and he's watching this on the ne
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