a synagogue under siege. an attack taking place on the holiest day of the week, the jewish sabbath. 11 people are dead this morning in what's believed to be the deadliest attack on members of the jewish community in u.s. history. reportedly driven by hate, investigators are now charged with figuring out why a lone gunman opened fire on innocent civilians in their house of worship. >> this is the most horrific crime scene i've seen in 22 years with the federal bureau of investigation. members of the tree of life synagogue conducting a peaceful service in their place of worship were brutally murdered by a gunman targeting them simply because of their faith. the suspect's full motive is unknown, but we believe that he was acting alone. >> they heard the shots and they all -- her mom and dad, her friend's mom and dad and son, they just all ran downstairs, i

guess, and barricaded themselves in the basement. >> my kid's away at school and he's watching this on the news, and all of his friends he's worried about, family and i can't tell him everybody's okay, because i don't know. >> i'm david gura joining you this morning from pittsburgh, pennsylvania, just one block away from the site of that deadly massacre. the synagogue just up the hill from where i'm standing right now. the suspect identified by law enforcement as robert bowers of baldwin, pennsylvania. there was police activity overnight as the apartment of that subject was searched by agents from the fbi, the atf, and the bomb squad. that raid coming just hours after fbi agents reportedly interviewed bowers. police say bowers burst into the synagogue, armed with an assault rifle and multiple handguns. he was shouting anti-semitic slurs, proceeding to open fire on the congregation inside. well, unsuspecting victims celebrating a bris, marking the birth of a child, an easy target

for his rampage. the 46-year-old bowers is now charged with 29 criminal counts. federal counts, including a hate crime. president trump reacting to the massacre yesterday. >> when you have crimes like this, whether it's this one or another one or another group, we have to bring back the death penalty. they have to pay the ultimate price. >> that was president trump speaking in southern illinois yesterday at a campaign event he did attend after the shooting here in pittsburgh, pennsylvania. in about an hour's time, we expect local law enforcement, federal law enforcement officials to hold a news conference with the latest details again. that's supposed to tapes at 9:00 eastern time. in terms of news this morning, there was word of that federal criminal complaint that came out late last night. the details of those 29 counts in that document. and coming up this morning, we have received a complaint from police here in pittsburgh,

pennsylvania, detailing the sex, the genders of those who were killed. joining me now is dr. don yuille, the chief of medicine at the pittsburgh medical center, just a couple of miles where i'm standing today. walk us through what happened yesterday from your vantage, if you would, dr. yuille. >> thank you very much for the opportunity. at about 10:00 yesterday morning, we received notification that there was a mass shooting event at the synagogue. very quickly, we mobilized forces at the umpc presbyterian and umpc mercy trauma centers to make sure that we could their care of what was known to exist as far as injuries but also what might be known to exist as far as injuries. so we had additional personnel available, brought to the hospital, ready to treat any and all casualties. we also diploeployed three physicians to the scene to help with the care at the scene and the decision making. >> we heard yesterday about the upmc facilities. i know there are more than just one. how have you prepped for something like this? in other words, could you

prepare for what you saw yesterday? >> well, you can prepare, and it's by having a plan that's been not only created, but rehearsed prior to the event. we, unfortunately, had to live through a mass shooting six and a half years ago, even closer to the facility. so we have had practice in this. we're ready for this every day. not only for the daily types of trauma, but these types of terrible events. >> we've gotten precious little information about the victims thus far. you've been caring for some of them. what can you tell us broadly about their condition, the condition of those who were injured yesterday? >> there are two patients that are here at umpc presbyterian that remain in critical condition. a 70-year-old man who had gunshot wounds to his abdomen, who have had two abdominal operations already. there's also a 40-year-old police officer who had multiple gunshot wounds, who remains in critical condition. there are two additional patients here at umpc

presbyterian with extremity injuries that are doing much better and not in critical condition. and there is one patient at upmc mercy who had an extremity injury that received an operative intervention and is actually recovering. >> earlier this morning, i saw a report that a chaplain the from u upmc was one of those that was injured. can you tell us anything about him. you alluded to that 70-year-old. i wonder if that's the man to whom you're referring? >> that is the man who i'm referring. he's a 70-year-old chaplain here at umpc presbyterian and served in a capacity at the synagogue. he had the most critical injuries and wounds and given his age, will likely have the longest challenge to recovery. but he's also showing some signs of response to the treatment. >> i want to get your perspective. you've been focusing on this as aically natio icallclinician, at as somebody who lives in pittsburgh, i want to get your reaction, dr. yealy, to what you saw here yesterday? >> this was our family that was

involved in the shooting. people we work, people in our community, so it's a part of us. our job here at the hospital is to treat people, to be the best clinicians that we can when they have need, but they're us. so i grieve like everyone else and my partners do. they have that unusual feeling of pride in their work, but sorrow about what happened. it really is a very sad day. >> thank you very much for the time, i know that you're busy. we appreciate it here on this sunday morning in the aftermath of that tragedy. i want to turn now to my colleague matt bradley who is outside of umpc presbyterian hospital right here in pittsburgh, pennsylvania. what can you tell us? we got a little bit from the doctor of what we've learned from the victims. >> reporter: you heard from the doctor about the status of the victims. as you mentioned, four of those victims were taken here to this hospital behind me, university of pittsburgh medical center. but i wanted to talk a little bit about some of the mood here and the neighborhood in squirrel hill. you know, this is a very tight-knit jewish enclave.

and when we were at this really emotional vigil, candlelight vigil last night, it was a very difficult time, you know, listening to all of these people going through the emotions that they felt when -- they felt victimized, how they felt so safe in this really tight-knit religious enclave, how they never felt like any of the hatred outside could have possibly permeated inside. and we heard little glimpses of some of the politics here. and it was something that a lot of people that i talked to said that they were trying to stay away from. you know, they said the emotions here are too raw, they don't want to politicize this, even though the whole country is talking about this. but some of the young people, they wanted to come out and talk about it, and they were saying, actually, even though there were prayers and there were songs, at the very end, it ended with a chant of vote, vote, vote. people there were electrified by this. they're feeling defiant. and afterwards, an older gentlemen came up to me and said that a lot of us here in the media were trying to give attention to people who are using this to talk about donald

trump and opposing donald trump and some of the rhetoric that's going around. he was saying that he's a big fan of donald trump and he lives in this community and he doesn't want people to think that the jewish people of squirrel hill and here in pittsburgh are against the trump administration. so there was a lot already really harsh rhetoric on both sides even as people were dealing with these really difficult emotions in the aftermath of what is really now thought to be the deadliest attack on the jewish community in u.s. history. david? >> matt, i know that you've spent some time in the neighborhood, as you said. and i just want to get a sense from you about the tight-knitness that you describe here. what people say about this neighborhood, and as you talked to folks who were attending that vigil last night, what they're saying about how they process this and what they would like to see happen next? >> david, one of the interesting things i got from this is that this whole vigil was organized by high school students. it was a bunch of high school students who got together early yesterday morning in just the

hours after this shooting had taken place, and it really had a lot of echos of what we saw from parkland, florida, from that shooting when a lot of hose high school students got together, even in their grief, and decided that they were going to speak out and address the entire country on all of these issues. so people there were talking to me about how they really felt like they wanted to rally the community. this community that really is multi-faith. you know, we keep talking about this as a very tight-knit jewish community, but this is quite a while literally, david, mr. rogers' neighborhood. mr. rogers, fred rorngers, who grew up in pittsburgh, he owned a house there. somebody was telling me that he used to swim in a pool right down the street from this synagogue every morning and he died there only a couple of years ago. so this is just the kind of pluralistic community with all of these different types of americans living there that this shooter wanted to target. so it really is just, for fred rogers and for so many other people, just a glimpse of the american dream, for jewish

people and for people of all faiths. and that's what makes this such a tragedy and what makes it so unbelievable for the people of squirrel hill. david? >> matt, thank you very much for the reporting. my colleague, matt bradley, at the upmc. we'll be talking with him throughout the morning here on msnbc. joining me here in pittsburgh is congressman can mike doyle who represents the 14th district in the u.s. congress. thank you very much for being here, given all that's happened. what have you heard from constituents at this point? you've been here. what are they saying to you about what's happened and what needs to happen next? >> squirrel hill is a vibrant community, very close-knit community, very diverse community. we're all just stunned by this. this isn't something that, i think, anybody thought could happen here, yet it has. and last night, there was a vigil out on the streets at "forbe forbes and murray. about a thousand of people or so were at that vigil and we were all there to support each other. people who lived in squirrel

hill and who lived all around the pittsburgh area could be with one another and support one another and just help people get through this difficult time. shortly, we're going to hear the names of friends and neighbors the from this community that didn't know they were saying their last prayers yesterday when this madman came in. and it's going to be painful. >> walk me through how you processed this yesterday, when you first heard about it, and how you got word that this had happened. >> i was at home, it was shortly after 10:00 when we started to hear something -- that there was an active shooter in squirrel hill. we weren't quite sure to have the details, but it became pretty apparent shortly after that, that he had entered the synagogue here at tree of life, and that people were being shot. many of us just left home and

drove down toward the area to learn more and see what we could do to be of assistance. and basically a lot of us were standing down the street where police had cordoned us off, trying to get more information and seeing what, if anything, we could do. i think most of the public officials in the pittsburgh area were there all day, until the press briefing, and then to the vigil afterwards. i think most of us are still kind of processing that this actually happened. >> you mentioned being there last night in support. i think there'll be a lot of people watching, wondering how they can support this community. what would you like to see? what do folks in this community want to see when it comes to support going forward? >> you know, if you're from this region, you know what a strong community pittsburgh is. already, the islamic center of pittsburgh has raised, i

believe, over $15,000. people from all over the region, there's a go fund me page. it's already raised, i think, close to a quarter of a million dollars. people are finding different ways to come together and grieve with our friends here in the jewish community. this was a horrific attack on the jewish community and the jewish people and it doesn't really matter what religion you are or where you alternative in this region, all of our hearts are breaking this morning and 9:00 is going to be a painful moment, when those names are announced, because all of us know people in that church and it's going to hurt. >> that's when that press conference is scheduled to tapes. let me ask you lastly here, you've got one foot in this community, the other foot in politics representing the 14th district in congress. when should we have a political conversation? when should we talk about the

environment that this happened in? when's an appropriate time for that? how much have you thought about that over these last 24 hours? >> you know, i got an e-mail or a text message from a dear friend of mine here in the jewish community, and he said, basically, today and for the next couple of days, we mourn and then we act. and i think that's how people feel about this. after we pay our respects to the families and those people that lost their lives, a lot of people here are angry that this happened and they don't want it to happen again, but i have to tell you, as a member of congress who witnessed children being butchered in connecticut and people being shot in florida, leading a sit-in on the house floor, congress has done nothing to address these gun safety laws or to put proper funding for mental health. you can't legislate against

hate. but we can certainly do some things in congress to lessen these kinds of incidents. i personally don't believe civilians should have military-style weapons. these are weapons of mass destruction that allow mass killings to occur. these are issues that are very tough and controversial in the congress, but i think the public has a right to know where everybody stands on this. and we don't even have a chance to say where we stand in an official capacity. and i hope that changes. >> congressman, thank you very much. i appreciate it. the gentlemen from the 14th district joining me here in pittsburgh, in squirrel hill. and when we come back, many more developments here on the ground as we look into the suspected gunman and the digital footprint that he left behind as the community here tries to heal from a day of unimaginable tragedy. from a day of unimaginable tragedy. alright, let's get going! and you want to make sure to aim it. i'm aiming it. ohhhhhhh! i ordered it for everyone. [laughing]

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welcome back. i'm david gura at the scene of the deadly shooting that rocked a small pittsburgh community of squirrel hill yesterday. we are expecting a news conference from law enforcement at the top of the 9:00 hour. last night, we got that statement about the federal charges. what more have we learned about what charges the federal government intends to bring? >> well, it's going to be both federal and state charges, both the pittsburgh police and the

federal government together have filed a total of 72 criminal counts, although it's doubtful that robert bowers would go on trial twice. and it isn't clear which trial could go first, the state or the federal one. both cases charge him with signaling out the synagogue for an attack because of hatred for jews. and in their counts, pittsburgh police say that after bowers was arrested and while he was being treated for his gunshot wounds, he said he wanted all jews to die because they were, quote, committing genocide to his people. investigators say he was heavily armed with an assault-style rifle and at least three handguns. and the witnesses and police both say he was shooting so rapidly, both inside the synagogue and later in the gun battles with the police that it sounded like he was using an automatic weapon, like a machine gun. strictly as a precaution, police in skbromajor cities from coast coast posted extra security around synagogues and other houses of worship, although they don't believe that bowers was acting with anybody, they think

that he was doing this on his own and that this attack was not part of a larger plot. now, the most serious of the federal charges accuse him of obstructing the free exercise of religion. that carries the death penalty upon conviction and it's undoubtedly that other charges will be filed, as the investigation proceeds and these cases are presented to a grand jury, david. >> pete, what are you going to be listening for here in the next hour, when we have local federal law enforcement gathering for that news conference here in pittsburgh. what new do you think we'll learn in the next hour? >> well, with i doni don't know. we haven't seen the criminal complaint yet, but the evidence here is obviously overwhelming. you've got witnesses, you're going to have forensics linking his weapons to the victims. so there isn't -- you know, there isn't a lot investigative that we'll learn, but i am interested in knowing if they're going to say anything about whether his ar-15-style or ak-47-style assault weapon was in some way modified to allow it

to fire tauautomatic fire. it's possible to do that. you can take an ar-15 style weapon and make it fire automatically. and we know from the shooting in las vegas last year that it's possible to use something called a bump stock that makes a weapon fire as though it were automatic, with only one trigger pull. so i think that's going to be one question, did he do something like that, or was he just firing so rapidly that it sounded like automatic fire. >> pete, last question here. i know investigators have searched the apartment belonging to the suspect last night. what do we know of what they found from that search. this is a gentlemen that was taken to the hospital after this took place. i gather he's in stable condition. what do we know of that, as well? >> yeah, i'm not sure i would call him a gentlemen, but in any event -- >> fair enough. >> we haven't heard of anything in the searches that shed any new light on this. >> pete williams out of washington, our justice correspondent here at nbc news

as we follow the deadly shooting at tree of life synagogue here in pittsburgh, pennsylvania. authorities have charged robert bowers, who was armed with an assault rifle, as pete mentioned, and three handguns. bowers has a history of anti-semitic posts online and threats to jews, including hours before the attack. my colleague, cal perry, can walk us through the suspect's social media footprint. you've been doing this. tell us about gab, the forum under which he was doing this. >> so gab stylizes itself as a social media website. it looks like twitter, it feels like twitter, and a lot of the users on this site have been kicked off twitter and kicked off facebook for violating those sites' policy. the three categories that you can put the shooters' discussions in are anti-semitic, xenophobic, and an obsession with guns. the anti-semitic rhetoric really throughout all of the postings, but a lot of xenophobic attacks, including a conversation about

that migrant caravan, currently in mexico on its way to the u.s. a conspiracy theory from the shooter that jewish individuals were behind the funding of that caravan. that was something that was recently discussed. look, these websites pop up all over the place. they are an outlet for people who can't get on to these other mainstream sites, or as i said, have been kicked off. this user was a verified user of this site, gab.com. the site is currently down. what ends up happening, david, is oftentimes host companies will protect these sites from being bombarded by haerks and keep these sites up. that protection has since been removed. the site is currently down. all of this happening, of course, at a time where there is great political rhetoric that is giving rise, frankly, to this american extremist behavior, david. >> cal, let me ask you quickly here, just about the use of this information. talking to pete williams about where things stand with regard to this investigation. what does it tell us a bit about when you're looking at the investigation, how does this

compliment what you're looking at? >> well, it certainly speaks to motive. and in this case, the authorities and this coming through pete williams' reporting question yesterday, the authorities were pointing to this digital footprint to journalists very early in this process. normally, it's about 28 hours to 48 hours after the fact. in this case, the authorities were on top of it, from the very beginning. they pointed to this as a possible motive. this was something that the shooter had been talking openly about his hatred for the jewish community here in the united states, had been talking openly about for months, just before the shooting started, he posted, quote, i'm going in. very difficult for anyone to handle those sort of posts in that immediate sort of moment. the question is going to be how technology companies moving forward can do a better job of flagging some of this material. but look, when you're talking about freedom of speech, civil liberties versus safety, it gets very complicated and obviously, these sites make a lot of money presenting themselves as a bastion for free speech, david. >> cal, thank you very much for

the update. my colleague, cal perry, joining me from new york. with me now here in pittsburgh is chuck diamond, former rabbi for the tree of life synagogue which is just up the hill from here. thank you very much for being here. we may learn more about the names of the victims coming up at this news conference. what have you learned about what happened? what have you heard from members of the community that used to be so integral to you? >> well, i spoke to some people yesterday who were in the building and, a gunman came in, i would say around, i don't know, 20 to 10:00, you probably know more about the timeline than i do. there were three congregations who have services and share the building. and he went downstairs, where there was a congregation, new light. i heard that he killed a few people at that point, went upstairs, killed a few people in the chapel, a couple of people ran from a classroom to see what was going on, just tragic, tragic story. and there were people yesterday waiting to hear about their loved ones and it was a very sad and trying day for all of us. >> help us understand this

neighborhood. it is a beautiful neighborhood. and people, without fail, describe it as being a tight-knit neighborhood. i think everyone that i've spoken has used the same description. >> i grew up here in squirrel hill. went to grade school here, ewent to high school, went to gardcare melon university, live in the house i grew up in. it is a wonderful jewish community. it's been that way for a long time. it is tight-knit. it's a community where all the different movements of judaism get along together. the rabbis get along and talk together. and pittsburgh in general is a wonderful community. standing over here, we have our wonderful mayor. our congressmen is great. good guys. it's just a wonderful place to raise your kids and i'm glad i've had the opportunity to do that. >> ask you about, just to reflect on what happened yesterday, the vulnerability of it and one is vulnerable before god in a house of worship. there have been calls from the president among others that there should be more armed

guards. how do you react to that? the notion that you would worship having to worry about something like this. now it seems like it is a real worry. >> i don't think that's the answer, i have to say. i don't think the answer is having armed people in schools. i think if there was an armed guard, i have told people, i think there would have been one more casualty. i don't think he could have, done much to stop it. maybe there could have been more security in terms of a locked door or something like that. i think these are great issues that we have to deal with and i hope and pray that the answer is not more guns. >> last question here is just about support going forward. >> right. >> we've been talking about the vigil that fast held yesterday, there will be more vigils today. what does this community need? what does that support look like to you and to those members of the congregation as we look ahead to the days and weeks to come? >> i think the support of people from around the country, it's meaningful when people extend their thoughts and prayers, but prayers, it's not enough. and i think action is needed on certain levels. first off, though, our responsibility is to provide

comfort for the community and healing and support . and for the people who suffered losses and for the community as a whole, because i feel we all, jewish and non-jewish have suffered a loss here. >> thank you very much. thank you very much for your time. chuck diamond joining me here on squirrel hill in pittsburgh. coming up, much more here from pittsburgh, pennsylvania, as we continue to follow the aftermath of the shooting that took place here yesterday morning. people tell me all the time i have the craziest job, the riskiest job. the consequences underwater can escalate quickly. the next thing i know, she swam off with the camera. it's like, hey, thats mine!

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welcome back. i'm david gurga here in pittsburgh, pennsylvania and i'm here with the mayor. your reaction to all of this as a resident of this place. we were talking about it being a storied neighborhood. >> yeah, it really is. it's the most diverse neighborhood of western pennsylvania. there really -- the reason people choose to live in squirrel hill is to be with that type of diversity. to see what happened yesterday and to try to rationalize it,

just isn't possible. >> how do you cleave the two approaches to this tragedy? you, as a politician, the mayor of this city, and you as a resident here, how are those two approaches to it discreet for you? >> they really do, one just goes into the other. i've had the opportunity to represent this neighborhood as a member of city council for 12 years, worked seven years as a chief of staff. i've gotten to know the people. so when looking through the names of the victims, their families that i am friends, so it sort of doesn't end at trying to be an elected official. the personal side of this is very weighing. >> these are constituents and neighbors as well. and what have they been telling you in these last 24 hours? >> their hearts are broken. this is a tough town.

pittsburgh is a blue collar town and we're proud of that. we have a very strong history of being resilient, being able to survive floods and fires and economic collapse and be able to come back. and we pride ourselves in that. but the people of pittsburgh are kind-hearted people. fred rogers, mr. rogers, lived three blocks from where we're standing right now. this is mr. rogers' neighborhood, where we're standing, where this occurred. and it's going to take a while. we will get through this. we will pull together. we will support our jewish community, while we also support our muslim community, as we support our christian community. that's what pittsburgh is about. this is pa welcoming city. this is a city, if the shooter believed that what he would do was somehow take away our strength in our diversity, he is completely, and was completely

wrong. will strengthen us and we'll be more welcoming as a city. >> you mentioned the history of this place and why people choose to live here. i wonder if you're thinking about change? how the events of yesterday might change this place? >> we have to think about a way how it can change this place and this country for the better. we have someone who acted irrationally, who took irrational actions and did so in a way that was feudal ueled by . we have to find ways to create laws that will not empower that type of behavior. it's not about putting more armed garsuards in our churchesd our synagogues and our mosques. it's not about putting armed guards in our schools. that debate has to shift, because all we're doing is creating irrational behavior and creating laws around it. we have to realize that rational behavior doesn't have people going into a synagogue and

murdering 11 people. and we have to have laws in place that take away from that. >> i was struck yesterday when your public safety director came out, how emotional he was, but also the deference he gave to the law enforcement community broadly, at the federal level, the state level, and the local level. talk to me a bit about that interface. you've spoken with the president of the united states. he said yesterday that he's committed to you and the governor of the state to give all the resources that you need going forward. talk a bit about that dialogue that you're having. >> sure, and that has begun. federal officials and agents of the fbi are coming in from around the country. the governor has state troopers that are here, which is allowing us to have more of our officers in a very visible presence at our churches, at our synagogues, at our mosques, at our schools so that people feel safe. with the discussion of our public safety director, this is a guy who spent a career working

in the fbi. he has been on location at some places and events that nobody would ever want to be at. he was visibly and noticeably shaken by being inside that synagogue yesterday. his concern for the well-being of this city was, i think, well demonstrated, through his comments. but at the same time, we had the opportunity to visit with one of the officers yesterday. an officer who, without the assistance of his partner and putting a tourniquet on, might not be here with us. and we'll be visiting the other two officers who are still in the hospital today. we -- i can't say enough about our public safety officials that responded yesterday. there are so many stories that i've heard that it wasn't just the city of pittsburgh, it was

all of our suburban police officials, medics, and others who came to assist in a mutual aid. we had 14 medics who had the day off. it was their day off. and they showed up for work in case something happened to one of our police officers and filled seven extra ambulances. people just came from surrounding counties, law enforcement officials, to be here, to support each other. sunshine in the darkest days. and when you think about what went on yesterday with the cooperation, across multi-jurisdictions, couldn't be more proud of the men and women of our public safety units. >> mr. mayor, thank you very much. appreciate it. thank you very much for your time. it will mayor of pittsburgh, l bill paduda joining me in squirrel hill. coming up, does the gunman deserve to pay the ultimate price?

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through the centuries, the jews have endured terrible persecution and those seeking their destruction, we will seek their destruction. we have to bring back the death penalty. they have to pay the ultimate price. >> welcome back. i'm david gura in pittsburgh, pennsylvania. that was president trump last night in murfreesboro, illinois. that was president trump last night at a campaign rally saying that the gunman who opened fire in a synagogue should pay the ultimate price. last night, the district attorney of pennsylvania filed 29 charges against the suspect. we are moments away from learning more about those

charges. a news conference is scheduled to begin at 9:00 eastern time. but according to a statement from the attorney general, jeff sessions, those charges could lead to the death penalty. i want to bring in jeff jarvis now, he's a blogger and katie bennery is with me as well who covers the justice department for "the new york times." katie, let me start with you and ask you about the rhetoric we've heard from the president, from the vice president, from the attorney general over these last 24 hours. some of the first comments we've heard from the president of the united states at joint base andrews yesterday centered on this. he was responding to a question from a reporter, but he began to talk about the death penalty. your reaction to the rhetoric that he's used about that, thus far? >> sure. i think that the rhetoric on the death penalty should be no surprise. trump has been a supporter of the death penalty for a long time and his attorney general, jeff sessions, has also been a supporter of maximum sentencing and maximum punishment. but i think what we should remember, though, two things. one, that rhetoric does go against sort of the trend we've seen in the country, where more and more states are reskricindi

the death penalty. and two, there was a 2012 study conducted in part by the justice department where the department and others questioned whether or not the death penalty can eff t effectively deter crimes like this. because it's impossible to know whether somebody who is willing to enter a synagogue and murder 11 people is really deterred by the idea of his own death. i think that's still inconclusive. >> katie, wii want to ask you about that statement that we got late last night about those 29 counts that are going to be filed at the federal level. of course, there are going to be state counts, as well. while we're talking about the death penalty here, some of those charges would result in that by default, wouldn't they? >> yes, that's correct. if the judge were to give the maximum sentence, of course. >> jeff jarvis, let me turn to you and just get your reaction to the rhetoric that we heard yesterday from the president. as i mentionmentioned, he field questions at joint base andrews, fielded questions on the tarmac when air force one landed in indianapolis and gave his fullest remarks at an event he planned to attend at future

farmers for america, he spoke for 20 minutes about the tragedy that unfolded and after that said that he intended to go forward with the rally he had scheduled in southern illinois, as well. we talked about the commander in chief becoming the consoler in chief. your reaction as to how he has tried, so much as he has, to navigate those two things? >> david, i think we have to finally learn the lesson of the media and stop saying what he says as face value. there's a great column in slate today talking about how we have to understand what he heard rather than what he says. there's a profound racism going on in this country right now, when finally people who have been able to take their constitutional right. people who look like me, white men in power, would rather destroy the institution of america than share that franchise. congress is in shambles with, the president is a sick joke around the world, the supreme court is now corrupted, fringe, fake christians are turning

houses of worship into a battleground. this is a profound story that goes far beyond just quoting what the president says and asking whether he means it or doesn't. that's meaningless. we have an issue of profound racism going on in america. our institutions are under profound and fatal attack. media have to cover this story in an entirely different way and we have to get down to the harsh truth of what's happening. >> just spell that out a little bit more here. you look at what happened here in pittsburgh, in the kynecontef the shooting in kentucky, the 14 package bombs that were sent to democrats around the country, former members of the administration, former presidents, as well. what changed this week, jeff, with as you see it? >> i don't think it changed this week, david. i think it changed in 2016. "the new york times" has a very good story in looking at the alleged pipe bomber's social history, and it wasn't social media that radicalized him. he was talking about food pictures, and then in 2016, come trump and fox news, suddenly he's radicalized to talk about race and to talk about these issues.

what we have is somebody else who said on twitter today, not dog whistles, but boo-boo z sedalias going on trying to radicalize people. so there's a surface rhetoric saying, we're going to talk about peace and such, and the next level is what the actions mean, and the actions is what we should be covering more than the words. >> katie, i want to turn back to the investigation, if i could. we noted there are a number of hate crime charges in that document we saw last night. talk about the justice department's capacity to follow these sorts of cases under attorney general jeff sessions, if you would. >> sure. jeff sessions has been incredibly aggressive in pursuing charges like hate crimes. charges that i know he has gotten a lot of flack for rescinding civil rights protections, et cetera. but for the laws that are on the books, he has been a real advocate for going as far as he can. so we've seen this in cases of, you know, the murders of trans people in america, the shooting of african-americans. he has wanted to pursue these as hate crimes charges, because it

allows him to, you know, to bring more robust punishments. that's true. and i just wanted to reiterate something that jeff said. you know, this is a time when, you know, of course, there is a lot of division, but i think we also have to understand it's not just rhetoric. we're seeing these -- we're seeing policies come out of it, as well. one of the responses to the shooting has been more armed guards, that happened after z l school shootings, as well. these are policy measures. and i think for people who are debating whether or not we need more armed guards, these real-life, impactful things, you have to wonder, are we still living in a free country if we need to be armed in order to go about our daily business? and so it's not just rhetoric. it's not just harsh words. we're seeing this enacted in policy. and i think for people who don't like it, it becomes very, very important to vote. >> katie, thank you very much for that. and for your time. katie bennett joining me from new york, along with jeff jarvis, journalism professor. thanks for your time as well. here with me in pittsburgh,

ambassador de ambassador dale diny. talk about your decision to come to this community as quick as you did. >> i come very frequently to pittsburgh. i love the community, and i have a great relationship with mayor peduto. i couldn't be anywhere else under those circumstances. i came to pay respect to the victims, to pray from here, from the rapid healing of the wounded and to hug and embrace the community i love so much. that's the reason i landed almost at midnight, but i couldn't go to sleep before i came here to light a candle and recite a silent prayer for the victims. >> talk about the magnitude of this. we know now this is the most deadly attack on jews on u.s. soil that we've seen in dhthis country's history. what do you make of that? >> no doubt that this is a game changer.

that the situation of the jewish, that the state of mind of the jewish communities across this nation will be different from today and on. i hope that, you know, we are unfortunately very used to these kind of situations. we have, unfortunately, a great expertise the that we will put at the disposal of pittsburgh on community post-traumatic situations. there are two ways to react to a shooter coming to a synagogue. and i hope that the right way to commit bigotry and anti-semitism is to be more jewish, to come more and more to synagogues and to jewish events and we encourage the communities, in israel and in anywhere else, when there are situations of this kind, that's way to behave. >> a few moments ago, i read from a statement that the prime minister put out. there's been a lot of global reaction to what happened here yesterday. talk about the conversations

that have taken place between you and government in israel. the reaction from the country to what happened here? >> you know, david, for us, an anti-semitic event anywhere in the globe, even if it's thousands of miles from jerusalem is local news, is a domestic issue. that's the way we see it. it doesn't mean that we have -- that we are not responsible for law enforcement in this country. we are not even responsible for the occasion against racism and anti-semitism in this country. but it matters to us. what happens to a jew anywhere in the world, and we will work with the federal level, the state level, the city level in order to make sure that they take their responsibilities very seriously to protect the jewish communities of this country. look, david, we saw in the last weeks, in the last months, we saw neo-nazi -- neo-nazi, actually, flags in charlottesville, virginia.

we saw a candidate for congress saying that israel hiypnotizes and rules the world. this community needs law enforcement and education. again, it's not our responsibility to do that, but we will make sure that it happens. >> thank you very much for the time. >> thank you. >> appreciate it here on your trip to pittsburgh. minutes away, updates on the investigation into the shooting that took place here yesterday. we'll bring you that press conference just as soon as it begins. you that press conference just as soon as it begins oh! oh! ♪ ozempic®! ♪

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welcome back. i'm david gura in pittsburgh, just a block away from the site of a synagogue massacre that has left this community searching for answers on this sunday morning. we are moments away from a law enforcement briefing on yesterday's tragic events, which took the lives of 11 individuals, in what's being called the worst attack on a jewish community in u.s. history. the suspect identified by law enforcement as robert bowers of baldwin, pennsylvania. he's charged with 29 federal criminal counts welcome including a hate crime. joining me now here in pittsburgh is miguel almaguer. he's an nbc news correspondent. we saw a bit of your interview earlier with the former rabbi of the congregation up the hill. what have you learned about this community over the course of these last 24 hours? >> well, david, so many people are interconnected in this community. as you know, this is the center for the jewish community. and so many people know the

victims and also know many of the swoourvivors that made it o of there. the rabbi told us an interesting story about a 95-year-old holocaust survivor who was here on scene, had just gotten out of his vehicle, was making his way into the church when he heard the gunfire, and got back into his car. this was somebody who survived the holocaust, but nearly was killed at his own synagogue. the oldest victim was 95 years old. many of the victims were older, but the gunman began downstairs, then worked his way upstairs, shot more victims, then was engaged with police, went upstairs to a third floor where he ultimately surrendered after he was wounded. now investigators will go through his criminal profile, figure out his digital footprint, and that may give them a better motive, although they're obviously calling this a hate crime. >> reporter: tell me more about the law enforcement presence we saw here yesterday.

i gather this happened around 9:55 or so in the morning. an immense presence of law enforcement. >> the first 911 call him in six minutes before the first service was supposed to start. first responders got here within minutes. they immediately engaged the suspect. we know there was a heavy law enforcement presence at synagogues all across the city, including new york city. heavily armed law enforcements officer those front doors. so certainly law enforcement is ticked up all across this area. now that the federal investigators are leading this charge. >> and you're talking to members of the community, as well. what are they saying to you about how they move forward from this? how they process what happened yesterday? >> one of the first thing we asked one of the worship leaders here is what changes with security moving forward? he said, it's too early to figure that out now, but the good thing about this community is so many people are so interconnected that everyone is supporting one ood. if someone doesn't know a victim, they certainly know a survivor in this community. there's tens of thousands of jews in this area, alone. it's kind of the center for

pittsburgh. they are certainly leaning on one another and of course, their faith. >> what are you going to be watching for today? that news conference scheduled to begin at any moment. what are will you be listening for? >> we're certainly looking to learn more about the planning of this attack. was it something that the sc suspect had been planning for quite some time. often in these cases, we learn that investigators are watching people on these social media sites, that are known for carrying hate gab, which is the website he was on, is a free speech site, but many people say it's also a form for hate. so we'll look to see how closely investigators are watching this suspect. >> miguel almaguer joining me now in pittsburgh. i want to turn now to ron mott, he is outside the alleged shooter's home in pittsburgh with more. i know they were searching that apartment last night. tell us a bit more about what investigator have found, what they were looking for in that search last night? >> reporter: hey, david. one of the critical