time. thank you very much for watching. stick around. a.m. joy with my friend and colleague joy reed starts right now. good morning and welcome to a.m. joy. that chant, vote, vote, vote came from the thousands who gathered to mourn in pittsburgh that cut down is is people as they sat in the tree of life synagogue on the jewish sabbath. it came at the close of a banner week in right wing extremism, with the massacre in pittsburgh coming one day after a florida man was arrested for attempting to assassinate via mall bomb 14 targets, including two former presidents of the united states. it also came after a man in kentucky shot and killed two

black patrons at a kroeger grocery store and told him that whites don't shoot other whites. it was also a week in which the american president and the ruling republican party refused to accept any responsibility for creating the climate of hate that we find ourselves trapped in. here is one example. the president's son, one of his son's last night. >> it seems like we have gotten to a point in life and society where everything has to be kind of politicized. everything has to be -- somebody has to point the political finger to everything. i think we should pull politics out of some of these things. this person doesn't represent the left. he doesn't represent the right. the person was sick, deranged. and, again, i truly, truly hope, if found guilty, which he will be, that he gets the death penalty. >> the anti-semitic attack which

could be the deadliest mass shooting of jewish americans ever was a mass killing in squirrel hill, a part of pittsburgh that was literally mr. roger's neighborhood. joining us is howard fineman, who is from this neighborhood of pittsburgh. also joining me, msnbc contributo contributors. howard, it is good to see you this morning and also painful to have to talk to you about the synagogue where you literally grew up, your neighborhood being home to this horrific tragedy. i want to give you an opportunity to share your thoughts with the audience. >> well, the first thing i would tell everybody watching is that we not only can't give up hope, but we have to redouble our efforts because, as my late

parents always told me, and they both taught sunday school at tree of life, our democracy has to be won again. our rights have to be won again in every generation. and i think that's what this is a reminder of. you know, it was not only a shock, but inconceivable to me, even though i know the history of the jews in the world, that something like this could happen in pittsburgh, in squirrel hill, in the tree of life synagogue. the neighborhood is one of the most peaceful and beautiful in pittsburgh. very much a part of the city fabric, surrounded by beautiful parks. not wealthy in the main. middle class for the most part. small, single family homes for the most part. but a perfect place to grow up. a place i always thought was a perfect combination of americanness and jewishness. and there was no con fleflict between them.

this made me wonder if, in some ways, there is a conflict. my thoughts this morning are not only about mother of life but about the church in charleston, for example. this is an american story. this is an american story about the fraying of our social fabric and the rise of violence as a way to have expressing yourself in this country that we haven't seen the likes of in modern times, if ever. we have had civil wars. we have had strife. but we have never had this kind of individual violence against groups based on hate the way we're seeing them bubble up now. that's my concern. >> howard, you know, it is interesting and i think very poignant that you mention mother emanuel church. this is the same week that a gunman wanted to shoot up a black church but couldn't get in and decided to kill two people

outside a kroeger instead. so this connection has been there for a really long time. >> yeah, right. >> you wrote a poignant piece about growing up in squirrel hill. it made me sad reading it because you talked about the fact that you had that naive belief that america was a unique country where jewish people could feel at home and not worry that daily violence would stalk their lives or daily unacceptance would be there, and this shook that for you. >> well, it did. i have wanted to believe in american exceptalism, and i still do, by the way. i still think the way we were founded and the constitution of the united states and our political system has the ability

to calm the violent swings of the pendulum of politics, to give us the way forward without violence. now, there is a history. there is a civil war. there is depression. there is racial strife, as you mentioned. there is the '60s. there is violence in the late 19th and early 20th century involving race and labor and all that. i know all that. but i think we still have the chance to be unique. what really impressed me about squirrel hill last night is the fact that the kids at the high school i attended in squirrel hill were the ones who organized that vigil and what they were shouting was not revenge. you know, let's not march out to the suburbs and find people like the alleged shooter. but vote. they were saying vote, vote, vote. and that, to me, is the best response. it's the mature response. it's the necessary response.

and let's hope it's one that works. >> yeah, indeed. heidi, i want to talk a little about this. we don't want to talk too much about the shooter. the names of the victims are coming out and we will hopefully get those and talk more about them and their lives and affirming them. but you did have someone spouting conspiracy theories about a jewish refugee agency that has helped people since the holocaust come to america and tieing to the right over this caravan and you have seen this bubbling up of anti-semitism, of a fixation on george soros. is that tied to this particular era, or has this been growing for a long time? >> well, i mean, look, conspiracies against jews have been around forever in western societies. but this recent connection between soros and the caravan, that's something of the last maybe year of our politics.

it's become actually much uglier just in recent days as we have seen members of the gop and president trump make these connections between soros, who sort of stands in for all jewish people and the flooding of our country with refugees and immigrants. clearly the shooter here in this horrible incident in pittsburgh was motivated by these two ideas. these things are spreading, and they're spreading fast. it really isn't surprising. although, it is sad to see people who think that whites are being undermined by a jewish conspiracy. that's the kind of mendset that drives somebody to even cage in an act like this. >> donald trump is very friendly with the prime minister of israel. his son-in-law is jewish. his doubt, my conversion, is

jewish. you can't ascribe to him this directly to him. but what he has been doing is to stoke this idea of globalists, this idea that really has been historically tied to anti-semitism, that globalists, which often can be read as jewish people are fermenting this around the world. this shooter believed in that theory. i don't want to play a lot of trump sound on this show, to be honest with you, because i don't know it is helpful. but in this case, i'm going to play one byte of what he has said to illustrate the point, and then i will get your comment on the other side. >> anti-semitism and the widespread persecution of jews represents one of the ugliest and darkest features of human history. the vile hate-filled poison of anti-semitism must be condemned and confronted everywhere and

anywhere it appears. there must be no tolerance for anti-semitism in america or for any form of religious or patient hatred or prejudice. you know that. you know that very well. >> so that was trump in indianapolis on saturday saying what you are supposed to say. that was the right thing to say if you are president of the united states. but this is donald trump on friday at another one of his rallies. there are so many. here is another trump sound. >> they're called globalists. they like the globe. i like the globe, too. but we have to take care of our people. >> jennifer, but is it possible that it is incidental that donald trump doesn't know the derivation of that term. he just doesn't understand it when he says globalists it means something to anti-semitic

people? >> i will not plum the depths of donald trump's mind, but i will say this. we have had 57% uptick in the last year in anti-semitic hate crimes. the biggest meme, the biggest sort of theme in anti-semitism is that jews are outsiders. they are aliens, that you define a nation by christianity, by whiteness. if you can believe it, they do not believe that jews are white and that everyone else is alien. everyone else is a threat. that true america is not all men are created equal, it is not an ideal, it is blood and soil. that's what european right wing fascists have practiced for a long time. that same mentality, fear of outsiders, words like globalists, use of a billionaire jewish donor soros.

you see that same language in hungry where george soros is from, poland and italy. they use that same language and that same mentality. nationalism is not patriotism. nationalism goes hand in hand with anti-semitism. the entire idea of anti-semitism is to put jews outside the definition of us. that's what donald trump does. that's his theme. that's what his party is committed to doing. that comes back in every speech now he gives that comes back in the hysteria over immigration, which is actually at all-time lows. it comes from this commonizatde of cities that are associated with jews, that they are urban, crime-filled pits of wrongdoing and evil and cosmopolitanness. all of that is foreign.

all of that is alien. and that's the origin of anti-semitism. so he can read off the cue cards fine. he reads without emotion, without feeling. he never speaks of pain within himself because i don't think he feels pain within himself or recognizes pain within others. so kudos so whoever wrote those few lines. well done. but i think he is entirely unsuited to the moment, and i am so personally touched by this incident. i only wish we had had a president to whom i could look for solace and comfort and leadership. >> yeah. i think you speak for a lot of people that wish that that existed right now. it isn't just trump. we talked a lot about him. but in his party right now and in right wing media, this caravan obsession has been tied to george soros. you had the majority leader of the united states house talking about don't get soros and

bloomberg take the election. make sure we protect the election from them. and the alt right sure claims donald trump. there is something going on here. >> there has always been the alt right or its equivalent. it was always on the fringe. and the president never validated that. what's happening and what's so extremely dangerous about this is you now have the man with the largest mega phone in the world giving a nod and a wink, sometimes outright praise to the folks carrying on these conspiracy theories telling them it is okay, they are getting a blessing to do this. the family of the guy accused of the bombings this week said in a sense that he came to see donald trump as sort of a father.

that's what the rhetoric is doing. it is giving people a license, certainly unbalanced people, certainly the people on the fringes of american life, but it is telling them that what you are doing is okay. and that's why, yes, there have always been anti-semitic incidents in american history. but this morning we are looking at what the adl just confirmed is the single greatest attack on jews in american history. >> the united states has already been home to the massacre of six-year-old children in elementary school, of high school kids in florida, of gay and lesbian teenagers in an orlando nightclub. we're holding the record for all these events. and now the biggest massacre of jewish people in history. the response of the president and the nra is we need to put kbuns

guns in our synagogues. despite continues calls for sensible gun control and mental health care, our leaders know it will fade away in time. unless there is a dramatic turn in the elections, i fear the status quo will remain unchanged and school shootings will continue. where are our leaders? he was writing that about schools. he could now write the same blog post about his own synagogue. >> he's right. our heart breaks when these incidents happen. and you get the typical thoughts and prayers going out to you. what you don't get is you don't get action. you know? i'm a gun owner. i believe in sensible gun control. but none of that is viable in our current leadership because there is no leadership. dana was talking about the president's rhetoric and the

rhetoric which has allowed people to believe that it's per missive now that being politically incorrect is that you can now shout any racest thing that you want in the world. the problem with that is we have an environment where people who are unfringed who feel free can arm themselves and either build pipe bombs and send them to their political enemies and acts of terrorism, take a weapon and go into a house of worship in the sabbath and eliminate their enemies. in the intelligence community, we have a phrase for this. elimination is rhetoric. and the president has not been dabbling in elimination is rhetoric. at some points he doesn't dog whistle. he uses mega phones to tell these tribes they belong to him, and this is leading to violence directly. >> yeah. this shooter had three glocks and an ar-15, as if he was going to war with which to kill these

people. my god. howard, heidi, malcolm and jennifer will join us later in the show. david, thank you very much. up next, we're nine days away from the midterms. up next we will take a closer look at florida, florida, florida. we talked about not having presidential leadership on hand to try to make sense of this horrific tragedy we just saw in pittsburgh. i'm going to play a president doing just that. this was president obama in the wake of the charleston massacre at the funeral for the victims. ♪ amazing grace ♪ how sweet the sound ♪ that saved a wretch like me

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. first of all, he's got neo-nazis helping him out in this state. he has spoken at racist conferences. when asked to return that money, he said no. he's using that money to now fund negative ads. i'm not calling mr. desantis a

racist. i'm saying the racists believe he is a racist. >> the democratic nominee for florida governor mincing zero words when it comes to his political opponent. ron desantis, who is losing, has attended conferences attended by the far right. >> he made appearances at four of the freedom center events. again, four separate times, four speeches. quoting here. this country's only serious race war is against whites. >> he had not even made those statements then. >> yes, he had, sir. >> how the hell am i supposed to know every single statement somebody makes. here's the deal. >> mark, how is he supposed to

know? how is he supposed to know who david horowitz is just because he went to his conference? he's an anti-immigrant, anti-muslim. how is ron desantis supposed to know that? >> well, that's a good question. desantis not only at the debate didn't want to answer the question, but about a month and a half ago i asked him the same thing and he finished his press conference and scurries into a car with aids. this has been a contest of defining the other guy's radical because while andrew gillum is pointing out that desantis has these racial and racist supporters, he has been attacking gillum as anti-cop.

>> lieutenant, not to break in on you. but just an fyi because i covered the trayvon martin case. the dream defenders did a march from -- i believe from talahassee to san ford to protest the fact that police had not arrested the man that shot and killed tray monomartin and the man that shot him was not arrested. the dream defenders were created to protest that. go on. >> they have a rather long manifesto called the freedom papers and there is the freedom pledge. so there is a lot of stuff in there for critics to make hay over and desantis has done that. what is interesting for me looking at this race, though, is that though andrew guis the fir

african-american governor, the black turn-out rate was 10% or black share of the vote was 10%. whites were 73% of the electorate, which is pretty shocking. right now it doesn't look at if we're seeing a sign of a blue wave or a great amount of minority participation. but it is still early. even though we have nine days left. next weekend when we have a full weekend of early in person voting, we will probably see those numbers change rather dramatically. if not, it is going to be a long election night. >> i want to just one more note on the freedom center. the other people desantis, maybe you didn't see them there. steve bannon is there, a guy that said his platform is the platform for the alt right.

all of them were there. let's move on to this idea of what the turn-out is looking like. we know that, you know, in florida politics african-americans going to the polls is pretty big and in person same day voting is the big part of it. are you seeing signs whether that part of it is going to happen. >> today is an interesting test. we'll see another next week. but i think mark is right. there is certainly no signs of a blue tsunami, let alone a blue wave. for folks looking at florida, this governor's race has become the most nationalized race in the country because of the contours of trump's endorsement of desantis. i think it is concerning when you don't see the type of turn-out, the type of historic turn-out. for those folks that are watching that want to see florida go blue, now is the time

to get those voters out because the enthusiasm gap doesn't seem to be very high at this stage with a little bit more than a week to go. let me make one other point. watching those images of ron desantis and the charges of not wanting to return those money, i think back to how the conservative right lost their minds, their collective minds, when it was revealed that pastor jeremiah wright made those comments about america, and they literally made it a referendum on what obama was going to appropriately. he distanced himself, denounced the comments and spoke to america about what his priorities were. in this case, as mark reported, you have donors that are using the n-word to describe president obama. not only do they keep the money, this becomes the rational for candidacy. i mentioned this a couple weeks ago.

what the republican party is doing, they are running a race war campaign. they don't care about the black vote. they are trying to maximize every ounce of the white vote here in florida. the truth of the matter is there is a pathway to victory there. it is a scorched earth pathway. that's the race that they're running. >> it is interesting to that very point. this race was racialized from the beginning. let me just play you one back and forth. this is a little bit long, but i will play you two sound bytes. gillum calling him by his first name and desantis's response. >> i met him for the first time the other night and all of a sudden without invitation, he was calling me andrew. between the two of us, he quit his job in congress. but i'm a sitting mayor, and he

had the nerve to address me only as andrew. i wanted to correct him, y'all, but i didn't want to be petty. so we pushed all the way through. >> he called me a dog at the debate. did you watch that? so, what? he has his own standard, and i have a different standard? is there a double standard here? okay, fine. crooked mayor gillum. how about that? how about failed mayor gillum. he has the highest crime. his former chief of staff is campaigning against his record running right now. how about radical mayor gillum? >> the dream defenders are a group of students who decided they would have preferred that the police arrest the guy that shot trayvon martin. he checks all the boxes. he hits all the markers and calls him andrew.

this race is racialized no matter what. >> this is a matter of respect. there are always people telling us, you don't respect because you don't say president trump. that's why i always do. because that's correct. the person worked hard to get that office. you call them by their name, mayor gillum. what you just showed of that video of ron desantis, do you know who he reminded me of? now justice brett kavanaugh. they are running a race war. it is scorched earth. if desantis wins, it means he won through hate. they are ginning up a lot of anger and a lot of hate. if hate is what motivates white voters to come out and vote on mass for ron desantis, that says a lot about florida. that says a lot about white people in general, and that says a lot about our country. when you put that in relation to

what happened in pittsburgh, what happened at kroeger's, what happened with the serial bomber. we're talking about, oh, he just sent some pipe bombs in the mail. if he was successful, that would have been the worst as is nations in this country's history. i don't think people truly appreciate just how on the razor's edge we are as a nation. i never thought we would be here, certainly not on election night 2016, but here we are. people need to pay attention to what's happening in that florida governor's race and around the country. >> yeah. >> we are basically kindling right now. >> yeah, absolutely. "the new york times" wrote a piece about the fact that the republican party is running this race saying to white voters you need to defend donald trump. it isexplicit at this point across the country. black voters back gillum 99-1.

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under secretary kemp, more people have lost the right to vote in the state of georgia. they have been purged. they have been suppressed and they have been scared. that feeds the narrative. it's about creating an atmosphere of fear, making people worry their votes won't count. >> this farce about voter suppression and people being held up from being on the rolls and being able to vote is absolutely not true. anyone who meets the requirements that is on the pending list, all they have to do is do the same thing you and i at home have to do. go to your polling location, show your government id and you

can vote. >> after efforts to se plus tupe votes in georgia, a small victory. brian kemp, the secretary of state and the republican candidate for governor plans to appeal, of course. still some issues remain. "the new york times" reports that more than 4,000 vote by va mail applications went missing. the naacp filed complaints over voting machines incorrectly registering votes. and brian kemp expressed a weird concern about stacey abrams voter turnout operation, given that he is the state's highest election official and all. >> as worried as we were going into the start of early voting was the literally tens of millions of dollars that they are putting behind the get out and vote effort to their base. a lot of that with absentee

ballot requests. they have an unprecedented number of that, which is something that continues to concern us, especially if uses and exercises their vote, as they absolutely can, and mails those ballots in. we have to have heavy turn-out to offset that. >> joining me now, host of "america on the line." jason johnson and latasha brown. i want to play for you stacey abrams. this is an event in riverdale, georgia. >> get out there and cast your ballots because we have an architect of voter suppression who doesn't want your voice to be heard. in fact, he said it himself. he said he is concerned that if everyone eligible to vote in georgia voted, he would lose this election. let's prove him right. so say it with me. say vote early. >> vote early!

>> the concern that representative stacey abrams is expressing there is because voter purge data, no voting or other information gets you purged in georgia. 534,517 people have been purged. those deceased 64,000. duplicate names 34,000. those claimed to have moved out of state. there is some evidence that a lot of people that are being purged and said they shouldn't be on the rolls anymore should be. never moved but were said they have moved. are people responding to that concern by voting early? >> absolutely. you know, the evidence is there. people are being kicked off the rolls. we know from 2012 to 2016, 1.5 voters were picked off the rolls. here it is, the highest election

official in the state is actually creating processes to actually exclude people. so people know that. people are hearing it. people are experiencing it. and what is happening, there is a lot of energy on the ground. what you heard on the clip and stacey abrams, you heard that crowd, we're seeing that everywhere we go. even today there are hundreds of people throughout this city that are actually going to vote. because of that, we know that the best way that you really address voter suppression is voter mobilization. so there are organizations that are really come together and organizing themselves so they can address this particular issue. there is a lot of work we have got to do to make sure we can ensuring democracy. >> kemp's office is claiming they are following a 1997 law. this law was not carried out in 2015 due to a legal challenge. just to note that for our viewers. there is a lot of strange things going on. there is this massive voter

purge that kemp is conducting. there is also this issue of race that is unfortunately cropping up in a lot of these races. you wrote a piece about brian kemp posing for a photo with an antimuslim extremist. he's wearing a t-shirt that says ala is not god. i don't know if he understands that means god is not god. you wrote that this person is the same person who is a multiple felon who posts videos calling for black people to be shot on sight. we asked for a comment. brian kemp takes hundreds of photos a day. it is ridiculous to be thought he should be held accountable for every person that takes a

picture with him. your thoughts? >> clearly he stands with hatred. he takes selfies with hatred. here is why it is important. the national union of liberty, whatever organization he is with, they actually threatened the stacey abrams campaign in late september. this man has made it clear that he is a terrorist wanna be. he talked about direct violence. he talked about revolution. he takes videos talking about how to shoot black people. for brian kemp's campaign to take a picture with this guy and not condemn his behavior, it isry -- is ridiculous. this is a danger to everyone in the state of georgia. this is not just about health care anymore. this is not about october surprises. this is about the idea that you cannot have the leader of your state be someone that playsterr.

i think everybody in georgia should be concerned about somebody that would take this kind of photo, smile about it and then claim, i didn't know who he was. >> this is not a theme show, but i feel like there is a theme. we talked about the extremist violence we see plaguing the country. you now have brian kemp posing with this man. and then you have of course in florida the same kind of thing. i mean, how was i supposed to know is what desantis says. what is going on in the republican party? >> we know what's been going on. we've been talking about it since 2016. look, as horrible as these stories are of voter suppression coming out of georgia, and they are very serious and they could

have an impact on the election, but the thing that gives me hope and solace and hope is the fact that the stacey abrams campaign is wide eyed, clear wide-eyed, clear-eyed and ready for this. >> right. >> yes. yes. >> the abrams -- stacy abrams did not jump into this race for governor not thinking people would try anything and everything to stop an historic election. if stacy abrams does succeed nine days from now, that's not just a political earthquake, that is -- we don't have the lexicon for that it would be so historic. it would be a big deal and it would show that georgia has changed. it would show that stacy abrams was the right candidate at the right time. she ran a campaign that reached out from the tribal nature of what the republican party is doing. >> you're getting an amen from

jason. go ahead. >> yeah. i just want to add. the thing that people have to remember is that for so long democrats and people on the left have complained, oh, my gosh, our party isn't ready for this. the abrams campaign was ready. the new georgia project. they knew this is what brian kemp was about. he's caught on tape saying, i hope brown people don't come out and vote. remember, even if the campaign is ready, the most important thing that every voter can do is you have to fight for your vote. and you have to remember that e to keep you from voting doesn't deserve that job. would you want a cop that doesn't want you to be protected. do you want a teacher who loses 4,000 kids? regardless of what your party affiliation is, anyone who doesn't want your vote, anyone who doesn't want you to vote doesn't deserve your vote. >> latasha, to you to wrap this

up. the polling shows stacey abrams is neck in neck. depending on your likely voter model she's two points down within the margin of error. if you look at the breakdown though with black voters it's overwhelmingly abrams. with independents it's abrams and suburban voters it's her, college graduates, women. sort of a familiar breakdown. if there is a path for stacy abrams, it has to go beyond the african-american community even though there is 30% of the georgia vote that is black. is her campaign breaking out of that black community and making enough resonance with white voters in georgia that she can go over the top? >> absolutely. if you look at stacey's numbers from the primary, what she was able to do is not just only mobilize black voters but she was able to mobilize white voters and progressive voters.

i think another element that will make a difference in this election as well is rural voters. you have a candidate that has reached out to the black dbelt georgia. what you see in the abrams campaign is that you actually see this effort to reach out to the rural communities as well and you see this broad-based alliance from the lgbtq community, a lot of support there and independence and millennials as well. i think this is all going to be an issue around turnout. >> this could be an historic night. >> it will be historic. >> absolutely, jonathan. jason, latasha can't stop, won't stop brown. >> can't stop, wouldn't stop. >> more "am joy" next. vo: you're feeling the squeeze.

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during the course of the deadly assault on the people of the synagogue, bowers made statements regarding genocide and his desire to kill jewish people. welcome back to "am joy." we're learning more this morning about a man accused of killing 11 people at a synagogue on saturday. he yelled, all jews must die as he opened fire. we learned hours before the rampage he posted on media, quote, screw the optics, i'm going in. he also repeatedly posted the theory conspiracy that they're funding the migrant caravan. it's somehow being bank rolled by liberal philanthropist george saros. >> it's highly organized, very elaborate, sophisticated

operation. i have that from the highest levels of the gaut at tuatemala government. a lot of these folks also have affiliates who are getting money from the saros occupied state department and that is a very grave concern. want to start cutting money, start cutting money there. >> none of that is true. joining me is dean ogadula and maria inohosu and cal perry and howard fineman. i'm going to you, first, cal. you've been doing reporting on this which dovetail with what you saw on fox news. >> the shooter was on a site called gab.com. that's what they would like to consider themselves a social media site. it is an anti-social media site. a lot of the users on this site have already been kicked off twitter, off facebook, off instagram because of these messages. three buckets i would put the

shooters interest in, anti-semitic discussions, just garbage on his postings. the second thing would be this xenophobic discussion. the xenophobia is endorsed speech by our political leaders today. that is something that we need to be very clear on. the third thing that he did on his site was an obsession about weapons, specifically about guns. that clearly played out in this shooting. we know three handguns and one assault rifle. this site is not abnormal. there are these sites all over the place. they claim to be the ashby terse of free speech. that's a screen grab there of the website. the other thing that i would mention about this shooter, an obsession with the refugee group hias. this is a group that has been around for 130 years. they help specifically jewish individuals who were displaced from their homes for no other reason than being jewish. so a lot of this is coming from mainstream politics. it is allowing the rise of

extremism in this country. it is allowing people to find a home with a lot of these views. that is what we have seen out in play in what has been a very dark 72 hours. >> kevin mccarthy, who is the house minority leader, he could be the next speaker of the house in theory, tweeted about george saros earlier in the week. we cannot allows saros, steyer and bloomberg to get out and buy this. i want to go to howard feinman. this conspiracy theory that they're controlling what happens in the election or are out to take over the country, so has this obsessive linkage between, you know, jewish people or soros specifically and this migrant caravan that's 1,000 miles away with little kids in it. this is dangerous stuff, howard. >> it's horribly dangerous, and to jewish eyes and jewish ears, it's all too familiar.

these are tropes. these are bits of language. these are ideas. these are -- these are the garbage of thought that has obsessed people like this for hundreds if not thousands of years. as i wrote in the piece that i did in "the new york times", i didn't think this was possible here quite frankly. >> yeah. >> maybe i'm naive and the events in my hometown and my synagogue have made me wonder. >> yeah, absolutely. you know, maria, the obsession that up to the president have had over this migrant caravan, the fact that they want the election to be about it, martha mcsally who's running in arizona got upset when reporters tried to ask her about health care because she wants to talk about this caravan because she knows it gins up fear. tying it to an anti-semitic theory is obscene. >> i just got back from mexico. i was doing reporting on the ground. i wasn't with the caravan. part of what happened when this group of people started making

their way north, it's usually a couple of hundred, but interestingly someplace there was some fake news that was then repeated on the national media in honduras that said this is being paid for so when you say that, people are saying, wow, it's going to be safe. i'm going to be safe. oh, my gosh, maybe it's true that it's going to be paid for. that was not true. none of this is true. in mexico nobody is talking about this is soros -- it's like this illusion. >> do they know who george soros is? >> that's right. i know george soros. he doesn't fund any of the media that i do. but this is not dude who has intellectual tentacles coming out like the octopus at the lowest level. we heard about people who might be a caravan and they thought, my god, this might be the time that i'm safe. can we remember, joy, this is several,000 people out of millions of people in central america. >> right. right. >> millions. there is not a flood. people are not rushing. >> yeah. >> these are not hundreds of

thousands, these are about, what, 4,000 people at this point? >> yeah. yeah. >> can we just give it some context. the national media has been doing such a poor job in terms of understanding the context here. >> there are 326 million people in america and 4,000 people is not an invasion especially when it's a bunch of little kids. >> dean, you wrote a piece in ""the daily beast"" after the sayok arrest, you wrote that donald trump decries guilt of association. there's zero doubt trump would be doing that very thing if the alleg alleged mega bomber had used social media to target critics. the same goes for alleged right wing terrorist robert bower. i cannot imagine the app poe plexi on the right had either of these or the kroger shooter been

muslim. >> absolutely. they would be using it for political gain. donald trump has done that before. we don't have to go what if. we saw when there was a terror attack in new york last year. trump wanted to end the diversity visa program and chien migration. here he calls for no policies at all. i want to say that as i put in my article, if donald trump was an islamic cleric who committed violence from 2015 when they beat up a voter in boston to what we're seeing now, donald trump would be arrested if he was a muss lick cleric. instead, donald trump is silent about what is radicalizing them. i want to say to howard, my heart breaks for your cleric. i was almost in tears seeing what was going on yesterday pictures people being in a church, a mosque, the same thing

happening. this should not be america in 2018. the president and the white house, not directly responsible, but the climate of hate is here. >> that decore of white supremacy, if you speak with white supremacists it always is centered on anti-semitism. that is the core. we begin to think because we're in the united states that somehow it's a second dairy position. anti-semitism is the center and from there we are all the mud people, you, me, we're all the mud people and therefore we can be targeted. the problem is that the fbi when it looks at these issues, they look at white supremacy within the context of kind of like a first amendment freedom of speech issue. >> right. >> they don't see it as domestic terrorism, and within the fbi that has become whiter and less diverse since september 11th, they continue to look at white nationalists as less of a threat. they don't call it domestic terrorism. meanwhile, they'll look at black lives mattered, muslim

organizations as grassroots and they're being targeted for being terrorist organizations. >> you have people saying the dream defenders, defending the dream of martin luther king jr. are rad kalts. >> the president of the united states is a liar. this is how you apply for asylum in this country. you come to a port of entry and you apply for asylum. last night at his rally he said, well, i'm here because the new york stock exchange opened the day after 9/11. that's a lie. it took more than a week. so let's be clear where we are. >> can i ask before i go to howard, you have been covering the social media a bit. there is the social media thing? you had twitter and had to go back and apologize. people were putting threatening tweets. we've been subjected to them if you are a minority or woman you've gotten them. if you are jewish, you get the picture. social media has been slow to

rain it in. what is the reaction within that world which tends to be a very first amendment purist world to the idea that people are going to these platforms to spew this kind of hate? sayoc's twitter was littered with horrific posts. >> that's why these people were kicked off twitter and facebook. they need to do a better job on the fake news and the hate speech. these websites, the gab websites, these are going to exist regardless. part of this is because of reality. this is down because the carrier sites that pro tektd these websites from crashing each other or being crashed by hackers, they've now sort of lifted their veil of protection over this site. this site will be replaced by another one tomorrow. >> yeah. >> it will be a place where extremists can go on and they can expound their hate speech. it will be a place where neonazis can go and rally together. that's what we saw on this site. >> howard, journalists have been

targeted on storm front and listed. this is not new. when you have a president who says people who chanted jews cannot replace us as very fine people, we need leadership to turn this around. >> he have' been covering politics for a long time. it's my passion and my love. i've written a book of history about it. here's the conclusion i've come to. our of the people, by the people, for the people democracy can't function paradoxically without great leaders and without great leaders with character. and sole and a sense of moral outrage. that's what we need now. i've got to say that the president of the united states is not providing it. i watched what he said reading from the teleprompter the other day with his denuns seeation of anti-semitism. i had seen donald trump do that

thing a million times. i'm not saying he's an ant anti-semite. i don't think he's passionate enough in a sense. i think it was rote. i don't think it was from the heart. i think he conveys that to his people. it was almost as though they're making me read this. let's go back to what i want to talk about which is whether i'm having a bad hair day, which is what he did last night in his last rally. that's what we're lacking. we're lacking leading leadership not just in politics but in all walks of society and we have to -- we have to deal with it. we have to win it again, the sense of decency and process and democracy in every generation. that's the challenge for us now. i don't think donald trump is living up to it. i think he's enabling passions that are going to be more difficult to quell as the days and months go on and we're going to need great leadership to

change it. >> amen to that. that's an appropriate note to end it on. howard fineman. our condolences. this is your congregation that this took place in. thank you all very much. next up, why republicans are telling you they're for health care after showing you they are against it. ...for that, and just a second, we also have the mendez mediation. brian is going to take the lead just follow his- hello. uh, no i need it right now. yeah... success is a numbers game. and you're not going to win if you keep telling yourself to wait. the more often that you choose courage, the more likely you'll succeed. the most inspiring minds. the most compelling stories. download audible. and listen for a change.

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we have to repeal it. >> i will repeal every word of obamacare. >> if you get elected are you going to vote to repeal and replace obamacare. >> yes, i would. i think it's absolutely vital. >> a republican who can actually fully repeal obamacare and replace it with something that puts patients and families not government back in charge of our health care decisions. >> with nine days left until the mid term elections republicans who have spent the last nine years vowing to repeal obamacare, to pull it uproot and branch as you just heard are suddenly changing their tune 100 degrees in fact. 180 degrees. not even just 100, 180 and essentially running as pro obamacare democrats. don't believe me? listen to this. >> we will always cover people like my wife with pre-existing medical conditions. don't believe the lies. don't believe the lies. >> i do protect folks with pre-existing conditions. that is just absurd to think

that i wouldn't do that. >> i'm committed to protecting people with pre-existing conditions. >> i should mention that every single one of those republican candidates in the clip that you just saw has taken action, droekt action by either voting to kill the affordable care act or by joining lawsuits to kill it with an express goal of ending obamacare's protections for people with pre-existing conditions, all of them. so why are they suddenly acting like they loved obamacare? joining me is my washington post at, jonathan and jennifer rubin and msnbc contributor e.j. dye o dionne. this is president obama's response in detroit to what they just did. >> the fact that republicans right after election time are saying they're going to protect your pre-existing conditions

when they've literally been doing the opposite? that's some kind of gall. that's some kind of huchutzpah, let's call it what it is. >> they've been trying to kill that man's health care program for nine years. e.j., what's happening? >> it's probably the highest compliment republicans have given barack obama ever. i was reading a quote that was misconstrued and they passed obamacare. she said you'll have to have time for people to know what's in it. suddenly people know what's in it. >> yes. >> one of the things that's in it is protections for people with pre-existing conditions. but that protection doesn't work in the insurance market unless you have basically most of the other structures of obamacare and so republicans who have said repeal and replace who haven't

offered what replace or repeal would mean are suddenly being caught up and say, they looked at obamacare, oh, yeah, i want those protections for pre-existing conditions. usually you have politicians fuzzing things up, but these are just as the president said outright lies. >> jennifer, they voted 70 times to repeal obamacare root and branch. oh, no, we love obamacare. it's really -- let me just play it really quick. heidi heitkamp versus the guy she's running against, kevin cramer, here they are. >> you vote five times to repeal the affordable care act where that patient protection exists. you have voted to eliminate that patient protection. when you support a lawsuit where the sole purpose is to eliminate the protection for pre-existing conditions, you don't support protections. >> republican bills i've supported do guarantee emphatically without any ambiguity whatsoever people with

pre-existing conditions. >> no, they don't. >> the lawsuit does not offer pre-existing conditions support. listen, you know, the expression that hypocrisy is the complement that vice pays to virtue. lying is even greater complement as e.j. said. this is preposterous. i will say something that is extremely amusing, and that is that when we were going about the process of hearing the republican plans, the house plan, the senate plan, the white house plan, all of these people, every single one of them, said, you know what, we can take care of the people with pre-existing conditions. we'll throw a few million dollars at the states for these so-called reinsurance plans and everyone told them, no, that's not a replacement. that's not going to work. and if you want to be extremely charitable, their lie is hanging

on that, but that is not a replacement for pre-existing protections as just about everybody had said. i think it shows what i've made it the case for a long time is. republican policy these days is very unpopular. it's not popular to give tax cuts to the rich. it's not popular to take away protections for pre-existing conditions. it's not popular to build the wall. it's not popular to want to throw out dreamers. it's not popular to want to pull out of the paris accord. instead of having popular positions, they lie about the ones they have. i think it is absolutely critical to see what an intellectual cul-de-sac these people have worked themselves into where they literally cannot sell their own policies. so my suggestion is go get better ones. >> yeah, you know, mark -- martha mcsally, let's do one example. this lady was so into getting

this done she said let's get this f'ing thing done. >> she said let's get this f'ing thing done. >> sorry. >> she voted for the house legislation to appeal and replace obamacare. that house bill would have raised premiums for those with pre-existing conditions or make it impossible for them to have insurance. she actually did that, but now she's like, i don't want to talk about that, let's just talk about the caravan. >> right. think about it, why are republicans running on health care? because health care is popular. people care about their health care and knew they're worried that obamacare, which they all apparently hated, now they like it, they don't want anything done with it. republicans all over the country, not just the ones -- >> no, rick scott -- >> -- are running on health

care. remember that jamboree they had in the rose garden -- >> yes. >> -- after they passed the president's tax cuts and he signed it into law. this was the biggest thing republicans have been championing for a generation. >> didn't they have kavanaugh beers. >> where are the ads for that? why are they not running on their tax cuts? but they're running on health care. they're running away from their generational undisputed single accomplish meant but they're running on something they want to lie and convince people that they are for health care? the fact that they are running on health care tells me they know they're losing. >> yeah. you know, e.j., one of the things that people said about the affordable care act when it was running, it was such a complicated bill. it would be, a, very difficult to repeal it. it would embed itself into the

fabric of the american health care system. also, once you give people a benefit, something they become accustomed to, the free, not having to pay the premium for your annual checkups, and they didn't want to run on obamacare. that has come to pass, all of that. it is a bit ironic, right? this thing is so embedded in the fabric of our health care system. republicans tried and find, a, they couldn't repeal it because they tried 70 times and b they don't want to. >> good example, social security and medicare, voters look at those who want to repeal it and say, why are you trying to hurt us? all the way back when we were debating clinton's health care program bill crystal wrote a long memo warning that once it was passed, voters wouldn't want to take it away.

there are a couple of interesting things happening out there. in the post family katheryn rampel asked the question why aren't republicans willing to defend their positions on the merits? why don't they go out there and say, we're right in wanting to repeople obamacare. the answer is the voters don't agree with their underlying positions. so i think you're seeing the bankruptcy of positions. republicans are being challenged in seats they've never been challenged in before. a tea partier who defeated eric cantor in a primary because he wasn't conservative enough. democrats hadn't been contesting that area for a long time. suddenly bratt is trying to look very moderate because she is running a very strong campaign.

i think this election is going to change the country in some depper ways than we realize because there's territory being contested and ideas being contested that were never contested before. >> yeah. i mean, we saw the tea party rise on the idea of the government having death panels and obamacare being the end of the world. i predict give it a few years and you'll have a new tea party keep your hands off my obamacare. it's going to happen. my panel is going to come back and we're going to have more "am joy" after the break. early voting is taking place in 37 states. look at the map. if your state is one that has early voting, you can go and vote now. this is the first soul to the pole sunday to places like florida. vote. vote. vote. up next, beto o'rourke and the most disliked person in the senate. senate i'm april kennedy and i'm an arborist

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opportunities? >> normally this is our ten to watch and i would stand at the prompter thing and i would read you our ten to watch but i'm just back to ten to watch. i'm not prepared to stand. somebody who looks much dapper than me will stand. >> martha mcsally will talk about the issues that really matter in her campaign against fellow congressman kristin cinema like the spooky caravan of brown people including impoverished little kids. one of these women will be the first female senator arizona has ever had and that's why this week's "am joy" ten to watch is where the candidates are essentially tied with republican martha mcsally slightly ahead. keep a weather eye on this one. coming up, we look at the voting machines. machines in a divided nation...

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if we do everything within our power right now beginning with voting tomorrow, which will be the sixth day of early voting, if we do everything that we can at this moment, this defining moment of truth, i guarantee you that all of us together are going to be celebrating an historic victory on the 6th of november for the state, for this generation, for every generation. >> look at that crowd.

there's no doubt voters are galvanized. now the a.p. is reporting that some texas voting machines are switching votes from one party to another. jonathan, jennifer and e.j. are back with me. jonathan, this has been a big thing on my twitter feed, i'm sure all of yours as well. the associated press is reporting that the texas voting machines that people are saying are switching their votes when they try to vote for beto o'rourke, they're getting ted cruz. the machines are used in 80 counties and houston and austin and tarrant. the texas secretary of state office told the associated press are problems being caused by voters themselves, user error, and often occur when they complete them too quickly. there's an easy way to make sure you check your ballot. it's because people are ticking a box wrong. the concern is it could

discourage people from voting. your vote will count, you need to check your ballot. >> we know from florida, georgia, you name the state that people are going to -- there are voter suppression efforts out there. voter suppression isn't just keeping people once they go to the polls from getting in to vote. >> right. >> it's stories like this that might encourage someone, they're going to keep me from voting so why should i bother to show up. voting is not just some, you know, secondary activity, you just go in and you just sort of click buttons. no, you have a responsibility as a voter to, one, go in informed about who you're going to vote for. >> yes. >> but, two, double check, triple check, quadruple check that the way you want to vote is reflected in the machine, in the little printout that you get out, that you -- when you leave that polling place, you should be 100% assured that the way you

wanted to vote was counted the way you wanted it to be counted. >> right. i think if you're afraid, you need to go in. >> you have to go in. >> jennifer, this has been an extraordinary race. ted cruz is not liked, let's be blunt. his personality is not the pleasing normal -- >> you're so generous this morning. >> i know. i know. >> it's sunday. >> trump called him lying ted. he insulted his wife and cruz sort of went full butler on him and was like, yes, sir, mr. president, i'm your best friend which people find weird. beto which has had this incredible outpouring, dallas news has endorsed him, the houston chronicle has endorsed him not that that necessarily is everything, he's getting a lot of great attention. he is gaiting a lot of endorsements. he is he' getting massive crowds. so why is ted cruz still ahead in the polls?

it's weird? >> well, it is texas. it is a very conservative state and what we see on tv is obviously a fraction of the entire state. the electoral advantage republicans have going in is substantial. the additional problem in texas and other places is trying to get democratic voters who may turn out in a general election out on a mid term. so that's the challenge for people like beto o'rourke. but i will say this. i think we in the media and we pundants who write essentially opinion pieces need to recognize that some of our assumptions about politics have been wrong. voters care much less about ideology and even specifics about policy than they do about the way a candidate makes them feel. >> yeah. >> donald trump understood that. democrats didn't in 2016 and this year you're seeing it with gillum in florida, you're seeing

it with abrams in georgia and beto from texas. if they can speak inspirationally from their hearts and talk about unity, doing the right thing, talk about simple decency, people will respond regardless of ideology. it will be interesting to see if they're successful and how that impacts the next presidential election. i think why people have latched on to beto, i say that not in a deprecating way, is that he speaks from the diaphragm. he speaks with intent and purpose and em low againloquenc. i think candidates are showing how you do it. >> you know what, e.j., i think that's true. one of the iron laws of politics that has not changed is that a politician who can get you in the heart, that has this natural ability to connect with you that's inspiring can be successful as jennifer said, even if they don't 100% match

you ideologically. i know republican friends who are voting for gillum because they like how he presents himself. they like his presentation and the way he speaks and inspires them. beto has caught on nationwide, even outside of texas in a way i haven't seen anyone other than andrew gillum, stacey abrams and barack obama. the question is whether that feeling can overcome the structural disadvantages that a democrat has in all those three states, right? they don't have a secretary of state's office. the money, we're looking at $100 million from ted cruz and beto o'rourke. they're hauling in money but those structural disadvantages are real. >> they are completely real. first to underscore the point, candidates do matter. i know republicans who for the only point in their life voted democratic for barack obama in 2008 that he moved them the way beto o'rourke is moving people. on the structural disadvantages

he faces, greg abbott, the republican governor, is running 20 points a hid in most of the pol polls. here you have beto o'rourke 5 or 10 points down. he's shifted 15% from the republican voting in the governor's race. that's a big hill to climb. i think when we look back about why he did so well, he has done two things at the same time that most politicians don't do. he has taken clear positions but he's been very open to people who disagree with him and he has not been divisive. that nfl clip where he defended kneeling nfl players, what's really important about that is not only his position but he respected the questioner, the whole beginning said, i respect your view. i understand where you're coming fr from. i think people want politicians who have conviction but can

respect other people. that's what beto o'rourke conveys day after day. let us be charitable. again, ted cruz is not quite so good at. >> quickly, jeffrey. >> the word here is authenticity. president trump is authentic. he is true to himself. beto o'rourke is authentic, he is true to himself. people know when the person who is saying things to them is acting or if they are really saying this because in their core, in their being that is who they are and i think that's why beto o'rourke, andrew gillum, stacey abrams are resonating. >> does anybody believe that donald trump and ted cruz like each other? >> come on. >> come on, choir. stay with us. jennifer and e.j., go off and have a wonderful brunch. >> great to see you. >> the inside scoop on donald trump's white house pep rally with young black supporters. more on that next. n that next. following you everywhere? it's time to take back control with stelara®.

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as he spoke to a group of young black conservatives who were attending a four-day summit in washington put on by right wing organization called turning point u.s.a. one interesting thing about them is candace owens is one of the right's many, many, many mail bomb conspiracy theorists. >> it is my belief when you take a look at the conversation of things going on and the increasing violence, it has been a leftist tactic to fear monger so as a matter of opinion i do believe when whee get to the resolution of this we're going to see this is orchestrated by the left but by no means is that opinion rooted in any proof because we don't have anything to point off of. >> good, good times. jonathan is back with me and entrepreneur karen maria al stead who attended the summit. we were texting after it was over. describe for the audience, you

are a republican, a long-time republican. you've been in the white house before. describe to us the difference with events you've attended when george w. bush was president and this was it. >> it was completely surreal. it was a surreal moment. i was there representing bold tv. i've been there many, many times. i sat there and said to myself that i'm at a trump rally and it was my first trump rally because it was surreal. there are really no words to describe it. it was very, very shocking. >> yeah. let me just play a little bit of a sound bite. this is donald trump at this summit, quote unquote, slash pep rally defending his what the hell do you have to lose line? >> so i'm reading these numbers and i just looked up. i say, vote for me. what the hell do you have to

lose? what's disrespectful? then i said it over and over at every speech and you know what, my poll numbers, you saw, with african-american went up, up, up, up because they started saying, he's right. he's right. >> that's not even true. like that's not even true. he has terrible numbers with african-americans. karen, when you heard the level of whooping, the level of hollering and the raving the maga hats, is that what you found so weird or was it his presentation? >> both, honestly. it was a little strange to see that and i had a chance to talk to a few attendees and to ask them, you know, why were they there? why were they attending this rally? it was interesting to get their feedback. to be honest, joy, it was a moment that was extremely impactful where a young man shared with me that he was there due to prison reform. he wanted to see changes in

prison reform with african-american men and wanted to get into politics. obviously turning point was able to capture some of these young men to get involved. you know, there were people there that were very much focused on the talking points and chanting and repeating all the things that they hear at rallies, but there were also a few young men that came out from the kanye effect, maybe from this prison reform conversation. they wanted to get involved. i thought that was an interesting point that we should be paying attention to as folks who follow politics. >> jonathan, candace stone was a conspiracy theorist on the mail bomber. they glommed on to kanye west. "the guardian" spoke to some of these people who were at the event. one person they spoke with was jimmy james who attended the summit, 29 years old from philadelphia. he said i don't believe donald trump is a white supremacist but let me say something very

controversial. if he is a white supremacist, he's doing a very good job for black people as far as being open minded enough. there have been a lot of black people in the white house. we've been there with a lot of them. the obama administration. karen's been in the white house. >> right. >> some of these young people told roland martin and others -- have you ever seen this many black people in the white house. roland had to tell them, yeah, a lot. >> yeah. >> what do you make of this? >> well, that -- that young person is wildly miszblfd he's 29 years young. >> okay. >> he should know better. let me have a sense of empathy here especially after what karen said. having been to the white house many times, i understand people being excited about being at the white house. i was there many times during lgbtq pride month in the obama administration and there were people cheering and applauding the president but also where things were going in the

country. >> right. >> so i understand the excitement. i understand the fact that there are people -- there were people there who were there for real reasons. the young person karen said she tukd was there because of prison reform. that i completely understand, but when you look at what happened in the context of where we were on that day. >> yeah. >> a political pep rally when two former presidents, a former secretary of state, members of the house and senate, democratic activists were all targeted by a pipe bomber. >> and trump was announces the arrest. >> right. that's where the country was at the moment. it wasn't -- it wasn't appropriate. then in terms of policy, yes, people are there for real reasons, but the president has not given anyone any reasonable comfort that he will follow through on any of his policy pronouncements. just look at gun control, look at immigration reform.

two nationally televised things. i want something done but unemployment dropping happened during the obama administration. >> yeah. >> one last thing to go to you for, karen, is the kanye effect. let's take a listen. >> can we talk about kanye for a second? >> kanye -- he's not a conservative. >> kanye is less about whether he's a conservative but just showcasing a well-known black figure stepping out of line. a lot of people can resonate with that and just seeing that all black people don't think the same way. >> karen, you talked about this, the fact that kanye west is having an impact on young black conservatives by being so pro trump. i hear it from a lot of lifelong

republicans. they definitely believe kanye is speaking out and sharing a voice that they believe in and they want someone with a big brand and a big loud platform to affirm their thoughts. >> yeah. >> so, you know, it -- he is having an effect. the president even spoke to that in his remarks about his poll numbers increasing due to kanye west. >> they haven't. kanye west is all in for donald trump. thank you all very much. more "am joy" after the break. a. so if you find your room at a lower rate, hilton is like... we're gonna match that rate and give you an extra 25% off. what would travel sites do if you found a better price? that's not my problem, it's your problem. get outta here! whoa, i really felt that performance. it's just acting, i'm really good at it. book at hilton.com and get the hilton price match guarantee. if you find a lower rate, we match it and give you 25% off that stay.

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