if you have trouble breathing, fast heartbeat, extreme drowsiness, swelling of your face, tongue or throat, dizziness or confusion. (woman) we found our tresiba® reason. find yours. (vo) ask your health care provider about tresiba®. welcome to "kasie dc." i'm kasie hunt. we're live every sunday from washington from 7:00 to 9:00 p.m. eastern. tonight, terror strikes again at the american consciousness. 11 people slain in a mass shooting at the tree of life synagogue in pittsburgh. plus, 14 bombs shipped around the country to past presidents, members of congress, cnn, and liberal activists. we'll have the latest on the investigations, but also talk about how we got to this moment in our country. >> i'm joined tonight by former white house communications director anthony scaramucci, and

david hogg, one of the students who went to marjory stoneman douglas high school. this week will be defined in the pages of history by a wave of attempted political assassinations and the deadliest anti-semitic attack in this nation's history. both suspects are alive, in custody, and facing dozens of charges. in pittsburgh, 11 people who went to synagogue to worship are dead. they range in age from 54 to 97. six others were wounded, including four police officers who engaged the suspect, suspected gunman, robert bowers. in the depths of mourning today, thousands of children went to sunday school. many with increased security waiting for them at the doors of their temples. police say robert bowers took an ar-15 style assault rifle and three handguns inside the synagogue. the fbi investigating the shooting as a hate crime. nbc's miguel almaguer is live for us in pittsburgh tracking all the new developments in the case. at this point, what do we know and what are we still waiting to

find out? >> well, investigators have been pretty forthcoming about the motive. they clearly call this a hate crime. what they don't know is what led up to the shooting. was it something the gunman had planned for several weeks, several months, or something he suddenly snapped at and began to carry out this massacre. investigators say it could take them a week to process the crime scene behind me. they call it horrific and complex. 11 people were gunned down in a matter of minutes. many of them came here to celebrate life and lost their own. riddles with gunfire, tonight pittsburgh's tree of life synagogue is home to heartbreak and carnage, believed to be the deadliest attack on jews in u.s. history. >> we're pinned down by gunfire. >> the first shots rang out around 9:45 saturday morning. police say robert bowers used thee handguns like the ones he posted about on social media and an ar-15 like this one. this man was inside, too shaken

to speak on camera. >> as i come into the chapel where services are going on, that's when i turn and i see a gentleman laying down, face down on the floor. and blood was coming out of his head. and i am still hearing it. >> bowers gunned down his victims in three rooms, methodically moving floor to floor before he was met by gunfire by police while leaving the building. >> had bowers made it out of that facility, there was a strong possibility that additional violence would have occurred. >> bowers fled back inside the synagogue, where he was shot multiple times. court documents say he told police they're committing genocide to my people. i just want to kill jews. 11 people were murdered. the oldest victim, 97 years old. rabbi chuck diamond consoled survivors. >> heard gunshots, smelled gun powder. >> on bowers' social media, a history of anti-semitic hate

speech and this post before the shooting. i'm going in. >> the fact that this attack took place in a worship service makes it even more heinous. >> tonight it's unclear why the suspect chose this synagogue. a day of worship becoming a massacre. >> the suspect remains in the hospital. we believe tomorrow he will be in court via video conference, though that remains unclear. again, he faces 29 criminal counts, 11 counts of murder, including several other hate crimes. we know that this investigation could take several weeks to complete. investigators just at the beginning. another thing they mentioned to us is they're looking for surveillance video. any video that would have shown the suspect in his days prior to and leading up to the shooting. that's also another major point of interest as investigators scrub through his social media accounts as well. >> thanks very much. >> on its face, this seems like an unthinkable moment in the history of this nation. but karen tumulty wriedz in "the

washington post," to anyone who has been paying attention, the slaughter that took place at the tree of life synagogue seemed not only imaginable but also inevitable. over and over again, as i have sat here in this chair talking with all of you over the past year, i keep finding myself wanting to say what's going on doesn't represent the country that i have loved my whole life. i wanted to say it again yesterday after bullets flew at the house of worship, and i wanted to say it days before that as these unexploded pipe bombs were delivered to our leaders. i wanted to say i know america is better than this. so where and who are we? i want to welcome in my panel to help us make sense of all this. with me on set, republican strategist and political analyst rick tyler. susan page, and from west newton, massachusetts, investigations editor for the new england center for investigative reporting, paul singer. paul lived in squirrel hill and went to the tree of life, as did his mother for many years. so with that, paul, i do want to start with you. as i'm sure you have been corresponding with your neighbors, reflecting yourself

on how this has personally touched you. ia also have been in the center of our public life as a reporter for many decades. do you recognize what's happening here and how have you reflected on it in the past 24 hours? >> well, it's not my squirrel hill. you know, i grew up in a neighborhood -- i grew up two blocks from that place, and we didn't lock our front door until the mid-1970s. you know, this is a neighborhood that the kids walk the streets, they take the bus downtown. it's safe. this was my mother's synagogue. you know, when it comes this close to home and the people you love are going about their daily basis, they're going to pray, and they're coming under a hail of bullets, it changes how you think about when someone starts pointing fingers and arguing that you are horrible humans. and then i went on some social

media site today and saw the denials. oh, this is all fake. it's being staged by the jews. all a false flag. and i think, when in america did we lose touch, not only with each other, but with reality, with any sense that there are things that are true and that we believe? >> david writes about some of what you were talking about, precisely because everyone knows everyone around here, he said, the one immutable squirrel hill truth that is at once irritating and comforting, the news that raced down the street was about a rare stranger in this peaceful place. dread. and susan page, to what paul was just speaking about, and this idea that this is a community where people felt safe, and you know, for many jewish people in america, this was supposed to be a country where you came to feel safe. and there's so much contributing now to our overall discourse in

public life that is just unrecognizable. how do you make sense of it? >> and of course, some of the victims of this terrible shooting are old enough that they remember the holocaust. and it's as though -- i think for a lot of americans, that seems like quite ancient history, and now it seems much more present. these are threads that have been in american history for some time, but the most radicalized elements of our society increasingly seem to feel emboldened. emboldened by new technology, by social media, by the increasing coarseness of our political debate. and that is having real consequences. i do not think it's a surprise as we get in the final week or so of this midterm election that we are seeing the pipe bombs to democratic leaders, the shooting at a synagogue. even the shooting in louisville of a man who tried -- >> we didn't mention that. >> tried to get into a black church. couldn't get into the black

church, went next door to a knroe grocery store and shot two random african-americans he found. >> rick tyler, how much of this lies at the feet of what the president has allowed to be okay? how much does the leadership in our government matter to events like this? >> well, first, let me say i have been thinking about it. it's -- i mean, the event is unspeakable. we're just all out of words to describe it, and we're talking about it again. and it's the same debate again. i think susan's point is really important. because both the so-called -- the pipe -- i don't want to say so-called, a pipe bomber, even though none of them exploezed. the alleged pipe bomber who saw he was doing somebody a service by threatening people or attempting to kill them. and then this person who goes into a peaceful jewish synagogue during worship and kills people. if you look back at their -- i believe this is true, if you look back at both their social media, they didn't start out

talking about hating jews. they talked about normal things that normal americans talked about. and over the course of time, they became radicalized. and that's really in a sense a new phenomenon that you can sort of self-radicalize yourself by exposing yourself to people who are going to put out vitriol. and we're also in thissert of post-truth phase. you get these conspiracy theories that this is a false flag, which is disgusting. i think where the president's responsibility is, he's supposed to represent and always has, the presidency historically, has represented moral leadership. now, all presidents haven't been moral or behaved correctly, but we expect presidents in these times to provide the moral leadership, to set us back on track. to ask us who we are and to reflect on it, as lincoln said, the better angels of our nature.

so that we don't become a society that's anarchist. nobody wants to live in a society where you have to have an armed guard in front of your temple or in front of your church on sunday or in front of your mosque. nobody wants to live in that kind of society. and so i really think we need to figure out how do we radicalize people toward tolerance of other people? how do we radicalize people toward listening to other people? respecting other people, and their points of views. that's the american value. that takes courage. >> paul singer, can i get you to chime in here? we're sort of talking through this, and the point you raised about how people are denying reality does really stick out to me, and it's one of the things i have struggled with as a journalist, as we all kind of cover what has gone on and how you navigate being somebody who is fair to the people, to the viewers and readers, and giving -- we always used to say, give both sides a fair shake. that's come under considerable

criticism. it really is difficult to kind of pull this apart, and this president is also using the media and attacking the media in a way that allows people who are posting these things like you point out to essentially say that no, no, the reality i hear about on my television doesn't actually exist. >> right. and you know, he's not the first person to do this. the first time i was ever afraid as a reporter was at a pat buchanan rally in 2000, during his short campaign there. where he turned to the crowd and said, those are the bad people, and pointed at the three of us who were covering him. it was terrifying. but even in trump rallies and you know this more than i do because you spent more time in the trump rallies, the crowd goes wild, but afterwards, you walk out in the crowd with your pad and pen, and would you like to talk to me, and the people talk to you, oh, which network are you from, what newspaper are you from?

i look forward to seeing this. the problem is that there is an element of that crowd that does not understand the difference between we are angry about what this group is doing or how we're being perceived by this group, and we hate these people. that's the distinction that needs to be made. that's the distinction that we have made in politics for years. that you republicans, democrats, independents, whoever you are, socialists, you're wrong on this topic, but i will defend to my last breath your right to be wrong. that's where we have turned. somewhere instead it's become you hate america, you are bad people. you are not of us. and i cannot only disagree with you, i can hate you, and then somewhere on the fringe edge of that, i can shoot at you. that i don't know how we get back from. >> the man charged with sending

more than a dozen package bombs to prominent critics of president trump will face a federal judge in miami tomorrow. 56-year-old cesar sayoc faces up to 50 years in prison. authorities found his fingerprint on one package and dna on two other samples. he's denied all responsibility. thankfully, no one was hurt, but it was a week where americans looked to their elected officials for words of unity and comfort. after past moments of crisis, we have seen widespread calls to cool the rhetoric, like in january of 2011 when former arizona congresswoman gabrielle giffords was shot and six people were killed at an event in tucson. >> an attack on one who serves is an attack on all who serve. such acts of violence have no place in our society. >> forces that divide us are not as strong as those that unite us. it's important for us to pause for a moment and make sure that

we're talking with each other in a way that heals. not in a way that wounds. >> and a similar chorus rang out this year after house majority leading steve scalise was shot and crit clly injured at a practice for the congressional baseball game. >> violence of any kind is unacceptable in our society. and i condemn this action in the strongest possible terms. >> we do not shed our humanity when we enter this chamber. for all the noise and all the fury, we are one family. >> we will use this occasion as one that brings us together and not separates us further. >> now, fast forward to this past week. once again, the threat of violence, and once again, the calls to cool the rhetoric. and paul, i want to go back to you on this as well because one thing that i have found incredibly frustrating over the course of the past months is

just how quickly people retreat into their corners and insist that it's one side or the other that have engaged in x, y, and z acts against people, members of their tribe, when in fact clearly there are people who have different political persuasions who are committing these terrible acts, in part because leaders are squabbling constantly about, you know, quite frankly, a lot of nonsense day in and day out. and they're listing out, there were shootings and this and that and democratic mobs when in fact the president is using and has brought rhetoric around white nationalism back into the debate in a way we have not seen in decades. why are people believing, oh, yes, they're shooting at a member of my tribe so therefore it's worse than when it happens it the other guy? >> you know, i don't know, kasie. the thing that struck me and that worries me most about these shootings is how quickly we leap to some sort of, oh, what is the

political spin. what's the fallout? what does this mean for the elections? i mean, the first thing the president said after this shooting was, well, if only they had guns in the synagogue, they would be safer. that's not -- you know, i go to the new testament. i go to matthew. you know, two or three of you are gathered, there i am among you. are we going to rewrite the scriptures, when two or three of you are gathered, make sure one of your are armed? that's not who we are and hot we want to become. these aren't conversations about blame. these aren't conversations about who literally shot first. these are conversations about do you love the person next to you just because they are the person next to you. and not because they agree with you, not because they voted for the same person or they worship the same god. but will you come to their aid when they fall down? that's the question we want to ask. and that's what we want to teach our children. >> susan page, you have covered

many presidents. how does this president approach the role of being the moral leader of the country? >> well, he has had a different approach than the previous presidents i covered because in the past, you think about there are times of national trauma and what does the president do after the challenger explosion, president reagan gave quite a beautiful address to the nation. after oklahoma city, president clinton who had a very tumultuous presidency up to that point, was not respected by some americans, stepped forward in that role and i think really united the nation and did himself a lot of good as well. but president trump has not responded that way to this shooting and others. i think he does not see -- he speaks occasionally, you saw him speak in the east room reading off a teleprompter, giving more traditional words of solace, but in general, i think his reaction has been to try to protect his political interests, to talk to the people who have supported him, and not to the nation as a whole. that has been a kind of, i

think, a characteristic of his presidency. one reason he has political strength because he's really held his core supporters, but it means from the start he hasn't broadened his standing and he's not used these occasions to broaden his appeal. >> certainly a different way of governing than many other presidents. we have a lot more to come here on "kasie dc." former trump communications director anthony scaramucci is going to stop by. we're going to get him to weigh in on the president's handling of one of the darkest chapters in modern american history. >> later, right, the midterms. back on the trail in the battleground state of new jersey. democrats forced to spend millions of dollars at the last minute to try to save senator bob menendez's seat in a race that's suddenly being called a toss-up. brand-new reporting. your insurance rates skyrocket after

a scratch so small you could fix it with a pen. how about using that pen to sign up for new insurance instead? for drivers with accident forgiveness, liberty mutual won't raise their rates because of their first accident. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪ ♪ like a big pizza pie, ♪ that's amore. ♪ when the world seems... ♪ applebee's new neighborhood pastas. now that's eatin' good in the neighborhood.

applebee's new neighborhood pastas. our because of smoking.ital. but we still had to have a cigarette. had to. but then, we were like. what are we doing? the nicodermcq patch helps prevent your urge to smoke all day. nicodermcq. you know why, we know how. dad: oh, hey guys! mom (on speakerphone): hi! son (on speakerphone): dad, i scored two goals today! dad: oh, that's great! vo: getting to a comfortable retirement doesn't have to be an uncomfortable thought. see how lincoln can help you retire on your terms at lincolnfinancial.com

i'm ready to crush ap english. i'm ready to do what no one on my block has done before. forget that. what no one in the world has done before. all i need access, tools, connections. high-speed connections. is the world ready for me? through internet essentials, comcast has connected more than six-million low-income people to low-cost, high-speed internet at home. i'm trying to do some homework here. so they're ready for anything.

you ain't going to be able to go to temple this morning. >> why not? what in the world is the matter with you? >> somebody done bombed the temple. >> what? bombed the temple? >> yes. that's how come we're stuck here so long. >> i don't believe it. >> well, it's what the policeman just said. >> oh, no. oh, my god. was anybody there? were people hurt? >> i don't know. he didn't say. >> who would do such a thing? >> you know as good as me,

ms. daisy. always be the same ones. >> that was a scene from the academy award winning movie "driving miss daisy" which depicts the temple bombing from 1958. this has a shocking history of mass murder in houses of worship. one of our first weekends on the air here at "kasie dc" was the shooting in sutherland springs, texas, where a gunman killed 26 people in a baptist church during sunday services in november 2017. back in 2015, a self-proclaimed white supremacist walked into mourn emanuel church in charleston, south carolina, and killed nine black parishioners. a year before that, a white supremacist killed three people in two jewish centers in kansas. during his 2015 trial, he said he wanted to kill jewish people. all three of his victims were christians. and in 2012, an army veteran with ties to white supremacist groups shot and killed six people in oak creek, wisconsin,

at a sikh temple before turning the gun on himself. and as susan mentioned, just this week, police said a gunman who killed two black people at a grocery store in kentucky had tried to enter a predominantly black church just minutes before he opened fire. susan page, this has been a thread throughout our history, these are just some of the recent examples of violence perpetrated at houses of worship. what is it about this that centers violence in these places? >> in some cases, for people who are anti-semitic, a jewish synagogue would be an obvious place to go to try to wreck havoc. there have often traditionally been unproctive places. they're not like police stations that have a lot of security. now we see all of these targets getting more concerned about security and having locked doors and having metal detectors at places that we used to think that was not necessary. >> and paul singer, there are some synagogues across this

country that have these kinds of things already, that have safe houses, that sometimes employ armed guards because they're worried about this very thing. >> yeah, that's right. we have done stories a lot about not only synagogues but mosques, obviously, have had to step up security. but again, you know, i think sort of what you seen from the news as well is that it doesn't -- even if your mosque is protected, even if your synagogue is protected, the baseball game you're going to with your kids, the little league, frick park is three blocks away, four blocks away, i guess, from the tree of life, or pamela's makes the best pancakes in pittsburgh, right down on murray avenue. 40 people stand there on a saturday morning, they're targets, right. where do we say, we'll protect this place, protect that place, we'll need a gun in every place where more than five people are standing around. >> rick tyler, it's undeniable

this president has used language or allowed language into our discourse that is used by white supremacists. that they have come into the closer to the forefront of our public life than they have in decades. how much responsibility does the president bear for that? >> i don't know that you can have a direct link between what the president says and somebody who decides to take action, but they definitely feed into a tone. as i said, when people are self-radicalizing and becoming radicalized, when the president of the united states re-enforces or repeats the language of the radicalizers, that's a dangerous message. ultimately, you have to hold the people who act out these events, they are ultimately responsible. our question is, how do we get people like that from getting a firearm in the first place. look, i know even in the schools today, my wife's a teacher. my daughter is a teacher. they find ways to include the children so that when they grow up, they don't become isolated. there are ways, they're doing

this in grade school now so children as they grow up don't feel isolated and they know they're integrated into a community, and when people are integrated into a community, they have a stake in the community, they don't usually act out against the community. >> you also need a sense of history. i was at the rally in houston on monday night with president trump, where for the first time, he said i am a nationalist. and he said this is not a word that gets used that much, but i'm using it. we should use it more. this is, if you know anything about history, you know there's a reason nationalist is not a word that you hear used very much. >> or america first. >> enemy of the people, these are all words that have histories. >> evil. just calling other people evil. >> that's right, and i think it's dangerous, i think, for words like that to get back in currency without a sense of the history about what they mean. >> you know this from the hill. our whole -- the structure of our government is based on one word. and the right doesn't like to hear it and the left, it's compromise. the whole robert rules that i know they don't use, but the

decorum and the fact we say my friend, you know, all that, because the founding fathers know that in order to get anything done, people have to get along. they have to treat each other with respect. when we keep polarizing, pushing the country in two opposite directions, things on capitol hill won't get done. so one side wants to get it done, and the other side, you have to start first by getting along. you don't get everything you want, but that's the way the system is designed. >> that starts with our citizens too. and the candidates they vote for and making choices about people who are going to make those kinds of leadership decisions. paul singer, thank you so much for your insights, and our thoughts and prayers with your community back in squirrel hill. when we come back, former white house communications director anthony scaramucci joins me live. we'll talk about the president's shifting tone. one president on teleprompter, another on twitter. we're back after this. >> have a word, it sort of became old fashioned. it's called a nationalist. and i say, really?

we're not supposed to use that word. you know what i am? i'm a nationalist. okay. we saved hundreds on our car insurance when we switched to geico. this is how it made me feel. it was like that feeling when you're mowing the lawn on a sunny day... ...and without even trying, you end up with one last strip that's exactly the width of your mower. when you're done, it looks so good you post a picture on social media. and it gets 127 likes. geico. fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more on car insurance. fifteen minutes could save you constipation until my doctor direcommended miralax.my stimulant laxatives forcefully stimulate the nerves in your colon. miralax works with the water in your body,

unblocking your system naturally. miralax. now available in single serve mix-in pax. tand, our adulte children are here. so, we save by using tide. which means we use less. three generations of clothes cleaned in one wash. those are moms. anybody seen my pants? nothing cleans better. put those on dad! it's got to be tide. what sore muscles? what with advpounding head? .. advil is... relief that's fast. strength that lasts. you'll ask... what pain? with advil. at dewar's, all our whiskies are aged, blended and aged again. it's the reason our whisky is so extraordinarily smooth. dewar's. double aged for extra smoothness. havi is not always easy. plaque psoriasis it's a long-distance journey, and you have the determination to keep going. humira has a proven track record

of being prescribed for over 10 years. humira works inside the body to target and help block a specific source of inflammation that contributes to symptoms. most adults taking humira were clear or almost clear and many saw 75% and even 90% clearance in just 4 months. and the kind of clearance that can last. humira can lower your ability to fight infections, including tuberculosis. serious, sometimes fatal, infections and cancers, including lymphoma, have happened, as have blood, liver and nervous system problems, serious allergic reactions and new or worsening heart failure. before treatment, get tested for tb. tell your doctor if you've been to areas where certain fungal infections are common, and if you've had tb, hepatitis b, are prone to infections, or have flu-like symptoms, or sores. don't start humira if you have an infection. join over 250,000 patients who have chosen humira. ask about the #1 prescribed biologic by dermatologists. humira... and go.

earlier this week, with the pipe bomb scare gripping the

nation, president trump delivered a message of unity in his first on-camera remarks about the threat. >> i just want to tell you that in these times, we have to unify. we have to come together. and send one very clear, strong, unmistakable message that acts or threats of political violence of any kind have no place in the united states of america. [ applause ] >> but by friday, something had changed. with the suspect still at large, the president sent out a tweet using the word bomb in quotation marks. apparently suggesting that the threat was either not real or was being exaggerated to mobilize democrats ahead of the midterms. a few hours later, after the suspect was taken into custody, the president was asked if he had any plans to tone down his rhetoric. >> well, i think i have been toned down, you want to know the truth. i could really tone it up, because as you know, the media

has been extremely unfair to me. and to the republican party. >> fast forward to the president's campaign rally last night in the wake of the pittsburgh synagogue shooting. and the topic of tone came up yet again. >> i could have had a little bit of an excuse. there was no excuses. we have our lives. we have our scheduled, and nobody is going to change it. if you don't mind, i'm going to tone it down just a little bit. is that okay? you're from illinois. i had a feeling you might say that. >> joining me now from los angeles is former white house communications director anthony scaramucci, the author of the new book "trump, the blue collar president." thanks for being back on the program. this has been a somber week, weekend certainly, of news. and my question for you simply is, how much responsibility does your former boss, the president of the united states, bear for

creating a climate in which people feel as though this is the type of action that should be taken? >> well, first off, hi, kasie. secondly, i think people who don't like the president will say he's completely responsible, and people who like the president will say he's not responsible at all. i like the president, but i'll say something a little bit different. i think that the rhetoric and the tone, if it deescalates, it would help the president and dial down some of the anxiety that's in the system. and so i'm not saying that he's culpable. how could anybody really say he's culpable for lunatics and mad people that are doing these sorts of evil acts. >> nobody is saying he's culpable for lunatics and mad people, but he is as a leader in the country using words like nationalist, enemy of the people, america first. he's in many ways normalizing these things that we had rightfully shunted to the very fringes of american society. this kind of anti-semitism,

white nationalism, does he not bear responsibility as the leader of the country? >> well, yes. i mean, the answer is yes to that. he's clearly not a nationalist. he's saying that at these rallies because he likes riling people up on the left, and he likes riling up his detractors. he also knows it's like -- >> why would he say he's a nationalist if he's not? that makes no sense. >> okay, why would he say it? see, you're saying it makes no sense, but it makes sense to me. i talk to the president three hours ago, and he was like, you seem to be the only person who understands what i'm doing. try not to give up my playbook. i'm like, well, it's not that i'm trying to give up your playbook. i wrote a 304-page book about what you did and how you hijacked the base of the democratic party. what's happening is academics, journalists, people that are classically in the elite that the blue-collar people in america feel have more or less done a disservice to them, more

or less ignored them, and have watched their wages drop by about 30% over the last 35 years, are enjoying the sparring that the president is engaging in. >> we're not talking about sparring. we're talking about a shooting at a synagogue. i understand, if you want to talk about the back and forth. if you want to talk about the rally, let's focus on that. >> i'm talking about the rally, not the shooting. the shooting is an unmitigated tragedy and abchutely horrific. there's no way to lighten up on how bad the shooting is and how horrific anti-semitism is. what you have to remember, that's an attack on humanity, not just an attack on one group of people. >> the point about nationalism and the rally is that was a hitler -- that's a word that has ties to hitler, that rhetoric. >> socialism has ties to hitler, nationalism has ties to hitler. but it's also a more broad thing. you know, the president is basically trying to say that

he's putting a group of people that have basically been in a vacuum in our society as it relates to the elites in society, he's putting them on the front burner. and so by saying that and getting the elites upset, it's working. and you guys don't like that, and that's fine, but i would caution people on the democratic side or the president's adversaries, i would switch up the playbook a little bit and i would focus more on the people that feel that they have been ignored for the last 35 years. so while the democrats can say they haven't been ignored, just look at the polling numbers that took place in 2016. the president effectively did not have a party. he went and knocked out the elites in the republican party, and then he stole the base of the democratic party, and he moved it over to himself. what i explained in the book how he did it, how he was capable of doing it, and what he saw in the 170 campaign stops that he went to in all these rallies that you

guys played on your tapes. >> are the tradeoffs worth it, though? let's say -- let's say you're right. let's say he's talking about nationalism because it riles up elites in the base and it makes his supporters more fervent, more excited to go out and vote in the midterm elections. is that worth what it clearly inspires in some of these people who support him? i mean, the pipe bomber's truck covered with pro-trump, and not just pro-trump stickers but you know, hillary clinton's face with a bull's eye on it. >> okay, so that's a totally different question. so i think that it should be toned down. i actually think that if he switched gears here, he would pick up probably five to seven points in approval. i think that some of the stuff is a headwind on him as opposed to a tailwind. it may galvanize people in the base, it may have helped him become the american president, but he's at a point two years into the administration where he could be transformative and pivot and adapt here and raise

the level of rhetoric to a higher standing. i don't think he would lose anybody from his base. remember when he was campaigning, he said he could shoot somebody on fifth avenue and these people would be with him. i know that got a lot of outrage, i'm sure, when he said it, but think about where we are today. why not dial it back? if you believe that about the comment on fifth avenue, dialing it back a little, you're not going to luz anybody in your base, and you may pick up the independents that actually like your policies and want to see you do well. so that's what i would do. and listen, i'm trying to explain it to you. i'm not really trying to editorialize it. i wrote a 304-page book that describes it. >> we got it. >> i would encourage democrats to read that book because he stole your base. and right in there in the book, i can explain how he did it. and rather than focus on political correctness and microaggressions, why don't you focus on blue-collar people and put policies together that are going to help their families

with rising wages and better living standards and you'll do better at the polls. fwl erwoor running out of time here, but before i let you know, knhaut did you talk to the president about today? >> we just had a conversation about the bill maher show, a conversation about, like, the definition of lying and a conversation about what it is that he's exactly doing versus the way it's being portrayed in the mainstream media. again, i'm trying to explain it to you. i'm confident that he sees it exactly the way i see it. >> all right. >> you guys can see it differently and get upset every morning and evening, but i'm telling you, that's the move. >> all right, the new book is "trump, the blue collar president." anthony skaur muchy, thank you for being on. >> thanks, kasie. >> when we continue, arizona, tennessee, texas, those were some states democrats were going to spend millions to flip the senate, but suddenly, new jersey, a reliably blue state with a veteran senator, is being moved to a toss-up. we're back after this.

copd makes it hard to breathe. so, to breathe better, i go with anoro. ♪go your own way copd tries to say, "go this way." i say, "i'll go my own way, with anoro." ♪go your own way

once-daily anoro contains two medicines called bronchodilators that work together to significantly improve lung function all day and all night. anoro is not for asthma. it contains a type of medicine that increases risk of death in people with asthma. the risk is unknown in copd. anoro won't replace rescue inhalers for sudden symptoms and should not be used more than once a day. tell your doctor if you have a heart condition, high blood pressure, glaucoma, prostate, bladder or urinary problems. these may worsen with anoro. call your doctor if you have worsened breathing, chest pain, mouth or tongue swelling, problems urinating, vision changes or eye pain while taking anoro. ask your doctor about anoro. ♪go your own way see if you're eligible pay no more than $10 a month. sand everyone i've ever opioloved away from me.thing everything. i blew my ankle out and i got prescribed pain pills by my doctor.

if making my detox public is gonna help somebody i'm all for it. i just wish i would've had a warning. our mission is to provide complete, balanced nutrition... for strength and energy! whoo-hoo! great-tasting ensure. with nine grams of protein and twenty-six vitamins and minerals. ensure. now up to 30 grams of protein for strength and energy! always a catch. like somehow you wind up getting less. but now that i book at hilton.com, and i get all these great perks. i got to select my room from the floor plan... very nice... i know, i'm good at picking stuff. free wi-fi... laptop by the pool is a bold choice... and the price match guarantee. how do you know all of this? are you like some magical hilton fairy? it's just here on the hilton app. just available to the public, so... book at hilton.com and get the hilton price match guarantee. if you find a lower rate, we match it and give you 25% off that stay.

in a sign of trouble for the already uphill battle that democrats face gaining seats in the u.s. senate, this week, the senate race in the usually very solid blue state of new jersey has been moved to a toss-up between senator bob menendez and his republican challenger bob hugin. ali vitali was on the trail in new jersey to look at the unexpectedly tight race. >> new jersey senate race is looking like it could actually become a toss-up. >> right now, it's an unexpected dog fight. >> new jersey could go red in november. >> senator bob menendez's re-election shouldn't be much of a race at all. >> an election that has never mattered more. >> he won by nearly 20 points back in 2012, and he's got history working in his favor. and yet -- >> bob menendez is going to have trouble, i think, exciting the base in new jersey. i think he's in real trouble.

>> is it fair to say this race is closer than it should be? >> if anyone spends $25 million of false negative advertising, as my opponent has, it's always going to be more competitive. >> it's true. republican challenger bob hugin has been spending big on tv ads, so much so that democrats have been forced to spend money last-minute in new jersey. this in a year where they're already playing defense across the map. do you think they're feeling scared, nervous? >> no, i don't think they're scared or nervous. they're just desperate. they know the people of new jersey know they deserve better and they're going to get better. and it's a last desperate gasp. >> i don't think chuck schumer makes decisions based upon anything but a cold pragmatic understanding of how he spends his money, and i'm sure any state in which we are competitive, he's going to spend whatever he needs to do. >> the first warning signs for menendez came in this summer's primary when an unknown and underfunded democrat managed to get nearly 40% of the vote.

and in the general, hugin has reminded viewers of menendez's brush with charges over and over again. >> he thinks he can get away with corruption and failure. bob menendez thinks you're going to blindly vote for him. >> his trial ended in a hung jury, and for these diners the issue has been hard to shake. do you have any concerns about the corruption case from earlier this year? >> well, i look at it this way. no one is perfect, but it's more perfect than having another republican. >> i don't know how he's running with these charges against him. >> voters say corruption is a top issue for them in this race, but there's something or someone they may care more about. >> trump. >> a lot of new jersey voters are no fans of the president, and they say they're prepared to let him know how they feel with their vote. >> a vote for menendez is a vote to stop trump? >> absolutely. >> it's probably why hugin said this. >> i'm not a trump republican.

i'm an independent republican. >> call me whatever you want. i'm a new jersey guy and i'm going to do what's right for the people of new jersey. >> you did help him get elected in 2016. >> in 2016, i voted for donald trump. >> menendez is keenly aware that trump may be his unlikely saving grace. >> i have seen all the signs around here, stop trump, vote menendez. are those the stakes? >> yes, trump in many respects is definitely part of this election, and my opponent is joined at the hip with him. >> ali vitali joins me now. great piece. so what was your sense being on the ground in new jersey as to which way the momentum is breaking in this race in the final weeks? is this last minute infusion of cash going to be enough to change the tide? >> so that's really interesting because a lot of this is being fought on the airwaves. hugin has dumped millions of dollars into this race of his own money to remind people that menendez has these corruption charges. but if you talk to voters on the democratic side, this is all about trump. if you talk to republican voters. it's about the local issues. that's the dance they're trying to do between both of the bobs.

menendez is telling you this is all about trump, and hugin is trying to tell you this is about everything other than that. he's trying to disentangle himself from being a republican in the age of trump, and the fact that donald trump could be the unlikely savior of bob menendez cuts both ways because there are moderate republicans in new jersey suburbs in the political fight of their lives. i'm thinking of the new jersey seventh district with leonard who is basically democrat right there and he could lose because of trump. >> rick tyler, what's the sense of the republican strategic consulting realm to a certain extent he's running it himself. do people think he has a legit shot? >> he's a formal candidate. he's smart. he raised a lot of money. he's raising good campaign. it is new jersey. new jersey elected statewide republicans before and has a history of it. christine todd whitman -- help me out with the governor's name.

>> chris christie. >> so similar i get them confused. so it's possible but there is no doubt it's about trump. by the way, $6 million in new jersey. new jersey is the worst state to buy a television in. >> because it's new york. >> and philadelphia. two most expensive -- $6 million is like nothing. >> right. really isn't. susan page, this is, this map was bad for democrats and to have to worry suddenly about new jersey, an expensive state as rick points out when they are worried about florida and rick scott, it's not fun. >> menendez has done that in every public poll. that's one thing to remember. it's close because of the money chuck schumer decided to drop instead of a place like missouri that we knew would be a close race where claire mcelderis fig. we reluctantly have a dismal race with bad choices. >> the editors, i want to say i saw one from a new jersey paper

like that. thanks to all of you. appreciate it. when we come back, the importance of neighborhoods and one in particular in america. f one in particular in america there are roadside attractions. and then there's our world-famous on-road attraction. the 2019 glc. lease the glc 300 for just $489 a month at your local mercedes-benz dealer. mercedes-benz. the best or nothing. in bed? try fleet liquid glycerin instead. relief in minutes, not hours. every time, on your time. now $1.00 off with sunday's paper. guaranteed relief or your money back. nwhen the guy in frontd down sunday's papethe highway slams on his brakes out of nowhere. you do, too, but not in time. hey, no big deal.

you've got a good record and liberty mutual won't hold a grudge by raising your rates over one mistake. you hear that, karen? liberty mutual doesn't hold grudges... how mature of them. for drivers with accident forgiveness liberty mutual won't raise their rates because of their first accident. liberty mutual insurance. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty ♪ i couldn't catch my breath. it was the last song of the night. it felt like my heart was skipping beats. they said i had afib. what's afib? i knew that meant i was at a greater risk of stroke. i needed answers. my doctor and i chose xarelto® to help keep me protected from a stroke. once-daily xarelto®, a latest-generation blood thinner significantly lowers the risk of stroke in people with afib not caused by a heart valve problem. warfarin interferes with at least 6 of your body's natural blood-clotting factors. xarelto® is selective, targeting just one critical factor. for afib patients well managed on warfarin,

there is limited information on how xarelto® compares in reducing the risk of stroke. don't stop taking xarelto® without talking to your doctor, as this may increase your risk of stroke. while taking, you may bruise more easily, or take longer for bleeding to stop. xarelto® can cause serious, and in rare cases, fatal bleeding. it may increase your risk of bleeding if you take certain medicines. get help right away for unexpected bleeding or unusual bruising. do not take xarelto® if you have an artificial heart valve or abnormal bleeding. before starting, tell your doctor about all planned medical or dental procedures and any kidney or liver problems. learn all you can to help protect yourself from a stroke. talk to your doctor about xarelto®. to help protect yourself from a stroke. she pretty much lives in her favorite princess dress. but once a week i let her play sheriff so i can wash it. i use tide to get out those week old stains

and downy to get it fresh and soft. you are free to go. tide and downy together. it's your job to get don to emall his tour dates on time. it's good money. we need it. in a divided nation... in the deep south, there's gonna be problems. get your hands off him. now! you never win with violence, tony. his music broke barriers. where did you learn how to play like that? my mother. as soon as i could walk. you're unbelievable. and inspired an unexpected friendship. what do we do about the bones? we do dis. [ laughing ]

right now squirrel hill was the home of the beloved mr. rogers. >> i'm very much interested in choices and what it is and who it is that enables us human beings to make the choices we make all through our lives. what choices lead to ethnic cleansing? choices lead to healing? choices lead to the destruction of the environment? the erosion of the sabbath in suicide bombings or teenagers shooting teachers. what choices encourage heroism in the midst of chaos.

>> should be thinking about our own choices. a lot more to come on "kasie d.c." and steve israel and margry stoneman douglas high school student david hogg joins us to see whether the parkland shooting is motivating a new generation of voters. " "kasie d.c." is back after this. " "kasie d.c." is back after this. ♪ ♪ ♪ comfort. what we deliver by delivering.

welcome back to the second hour of "kasie d.c." live from washington. the country reeling. yesterday morning a gunman entered the tree of life synagogue in pittsburgh squirrel hill neighborhood armed with an a.r. 15 style rifle and three handguns killing 11 people. they were attending a baby naming ceremony. six others were injured including four police officers who confronted the suspect at the scene. the suspect apprehended by police and taken to the hospital is 46-year-old robert bowers whose social media is rifle with antis-semitic content. bowers is set to appear in court tomorrow at 1:30. meanwhile, one day earlier a 56-year-old florida man cesar sayoc was charged with sending 14 packages to outspoken critics

of president trump. among them, former president obama, joe biden and george sor soros. in the wake of this, many called for lawmakers and everyday people to tone down rhetoric. amid very mixed messaging on this week's events, here is how the president called for a fight against hate. >> this evil antis-semitic attack is an assault on all of us. it's an assault on humanity. it will require all of us working together to extract the hateful poison of anti-semitism from our world. this is the time to renew the bonds of love and loyalty that hold us together as americans. these bonds have always sustained our nation. >> i want to bring now my panel with me onset, nbc news presidential historian, "daily

beast" politics editor sam stein and msnbc contributor kimberly atkinss and congressman from new york and chairman steve israel. michael, i want to start with you. i want to read from a letter that george washington wrote to a synagogue in 1970. he wrote quote, for happily the government of the united states which gives to bigotry no sanction to persecution, no assistance should demen themselves to good citizens. that was flagged for uson themselves to good citizens. that was flagged for usn themselves to good citizens. that was flagged for n themselves to good citizens. that was flagged for on themselves to good citizens. that was flagged for us. what does this mean? our country has difficult strands, has been struggling with strands of this for many, many years but this feels like a moment in modern history. >> you look back on this

historically and this is the week we saw this wide spread attempt to assassinate our political leaders and others and past political leaders. and i actually tweeted and the reason was you look at the constitution. the people who wrote the constitution knew that the first president would be george washington and that he would get it right. and a couple of things washington said were number one everyone in this society should feel part of this society. even jewish americans, there had been jews in the 17th century in rhode island began in 1763. the building was still standing and georgia washington ordained

not in the constitution but every president since then has obeyed this except donald trump is a big part of your job, is to unify this country. it's a country that's diverse in all sorts of ways. people have a lot of different views. geographical, different religions or none at all. that's what george washington understood. that's what he really had in mind when he was writing that letter to that jewish congregation in new port in 1790 and that's why it drives me crazy that from the inaugural address on, donald trump refused to carry out the part of the job which says it's your job to unify this country. >> that address one -- >> american carnage. >> quite remarkable. sam stein, i was touched by the piece you wrote about your own kind of experiences and reflections on your own faith. what has been going through your mind as both a journalist but also a person over the last 24

hours. >> and a jew. it's been tough. the piece i wrote was about my experience going to a concentration camp when i was a young kid and the camp was in poland and i remember standing over the ash pits and i couldn't cry. i just couldn't will myself to cry, and i felt incredibly, i don't know. i felt like a fraud because i felt this was supposed to be the most poignant part of my spiritual existence. it wasn't that i was a fraud but incredibly blessed i was brought up in a country where i was surrounded by fellow jews but we never felt any form of anti-semitism overtly, certainly nothing comparable to what happened in poland. >> certainly not looking at that

in history. >> yes. that has been roughly my existence forever until about a year ago and chart litlottesvils a wakeup call to see people comfortable enough to walk through a major american city, college town where i had been chanting was harrowing to say the least and then obviously this weekend you watch this happen and you think to yourself, do my people belong in america's social fabric, and it's something that i've had to grapple with internally. certainly as a new parent raising a jewish kid, it's profound and i no longer am struggling for tears. i'm struggling to hold back my tears this weekend because i'm not a spiritual person, i'm a deeply religious person but i recognize my judaism and this

event this weekend has forced me to grapple with it in ways i haven't been ready to do before:itbefore. it's been difficult. >> there was 11 people killed. among them joyce fienberg known for her brilliant memory. cecal rosenthal and his brother david were said to be inacceptable and always looked out for one another. husband and wife sylvan and bernice simon. they were killed where they wed in 1956. rose mallinger was 97 years old. rose's daughter andrea wedner is wounded and reportedly still in the hospital recovering. daniel stein 71 served as president of new light

congregation, a synagogue that holds services at tree of life and the forward reports an 80-year-old holocaust survivor missed the shooting but showing up four minutes late to the service that day. he pulled his car into a parking space yesterday morning at tree of life congregation when he said quote, somebody knocked on my window. there was this guy very calm and respectful. he told me you better back up. there is an active shooting going on in your synagogue. sam, to what you were talking about before, for you, what happened in the holocaust is history. we're contemporaries in age but there are people lucky to be alive that remember it. >> it is very difficult to think that someone would survive the holocaust, only to witness this and see their loved ones and fellow congregation die because of a maniac having access to a

gun and walking into his temple. it's difficult to process. >> congressman israel, i want to bring you into this conversation and also understands and identifies with what we've seen over the course of the last tragic day. weigh in here and what role does our public rhetoric and the rhetoric of our public officials, how much does it matter in the context of preventing these tragedies or encouraging them? >> well, it's everything, kasie. in two weeks, we'll commemorate the 80th anniversary to the attacks on synagogues and in germany and austria. synagogues who are attacked, jews were killed. for the jewish community in america, that's history. it should not be headlines but they are headlines today. here is what is really appalling, i think. look, people are saying that

there is a 57% increase in antis-semitic incidents, surge in hate crimes. some people are saying there is a correlation, causation with president trump. i'll tell you what i think. i don't think president trump is causing this surge in hate crimes. i think the anger created president trump. we did a lot of voter research in my last two years in congress and picked up massive anxiety and fear and desperation and hate and resentment. the difference with this president as opposed to past presidents, the difference between this leader and past is that when these things happen, when you have resentments, leaders generally try to heal the wounds. this president tries to pour gas on the wounds and that is what is so deplorable in this climate. >> michael, you're nodding. >> i totally agree. you look all the way through american history. leaders understand that. yes, they come up with a lot of policies that make people angry and sometimes divide the country

but they understand that the constitution says that a president is head of state. we don't have a king or queen and the president is the one trying always, should be, to knit everyone together, especially in wartime, especially when we have huge divisions over for instance the great depression in 1932, 1859 slavery. presidents come into the breach and look for ways to bring us together. the record of donald trump from the very beginning, really from the time he announced in 2015 has been almost the opposite. divide the country, put groups against one another and exploit them politically and not take seriously this idea he has to be a unifying head of state. for instance, the other day, whether he said off of a piece -- read off a piece of paper, you know, a few words in the direction of unity, he does it in a way that suggestions he doesn't believe it and he's about to crumble up the piece of paper and throw it away and out of keeping with everything else

he said. he's really kicked away that role and i think what we're watching is a horrible lab experiment about what happens in this country, what hate groups feel licensed if you have a president who does that and does not try -- >> i think we need to at least establish the context of what happened here because i don't think it's just about trump failing to bring the country together after the fact. in this specific -- >> he has incited violence. >> in this case with this pittsburgh shooter, this man seemed to believe george soros was harvesting honduras refugees and seemed to be conspireing to take action because of this idea that george soros was going to over take the country, vis-a-vis the honduras migrant caravan. >> can we back up to that last commercial before the 2016 election? >> sure. >> this has a history, too. >> i will say this.

donald trump didn't pull the trigger. >> no, certainly not. >> but, but -- >> we have to learn more about the motives. >> this idea, these myths, these conspiracies are allowed to fester and they are created and pushed by people like donald trump by other whose want to take political advantage of it and there is no cost for them. there has been a cost for a lot of other people. there is no cost for them. >> kimberly atkins, this is also, just this week we saw a person in kentucky try to go into a church and door is locked. instead, goes into a grocery store and kills. that was racially motivated. the pipe bombs sent to african americans and criticized the president as he mentions, this is something that is clearly playing out across minority groups. >> yes, this is something that we all have seen coming for quite sometime. i mean, you mentioned the charlottesville rally where

people, white supremacists, their face unmasked for people to say, to march with torches and say among other things jews and increase in racially motivated antis-semitic hateful coming to the surface in a way i didn't have in my life. i never thought i would see the day that something like that has happened, and it's only growing and that has to do with the atmosphere and we're a president who chooses to use racially coded language at best, sometimes it's dog whistle. sometimes it's bull horns. he is the leader of the country. he is the person in charge of our discourse. and if he is not bringing out the best in us, he is instead

for political purposes fanning the flames and encouraging the worst of us, that is a problem. >> he's not saying the things he should to warn people like that that they won't get away with it or he is coiling saying things that are intended to incite violence and encourage hate groups and somehow help him politically and i think he doesn't understand that everything a president does sends a message. for instance, about a week after the inauguration, donald trump issued a statement on holocaust remembrance day. first time i ever seen a president of the united states ever issue such a statement, does not mention jews. a nice explanation is someone made a mistake. the darker explanation is that he or the people around him knew exactly what they were doing. >> i had almost forgotten about that. >> can i make a point? >> please, jump in. >> we're focussing on donald trump. he's brought us to the lowest levels, the lowest depths of

discourse, but i think it's broader than that. we have a midterm election coming up in about a week and a half. take a look at midterm election ads that republicans are putting on the air accusing ade democrac candidate or being terrorists and opponents of trying to invade the congress or being aliens. this discourse is surely prompted by the president but very much broadened by republican candidates in this midterm election that believe their only path to retaining the majority is by creating these divisions and by exploiting people's fear and resentment. >> all right. we have much more to come here on "kasie d.c." including a trump tweet and we'll talk to a gun reform activist that survived the shooting at margry stoneman douglas and why they are talking health care in the days leading up at the midterms. days leading up at the midterms. . .

okay. t the midterms i the midterms. ot. s the midterms. the midterms. o. . s s . the midterms. cks ] okay. so, now that you have a house, you can use homequote explorer. quiet. i'm blasting my quads. janice, look. i'm in a meeting. -janice, look. -[ chuckles ] -look, look. -i'm looking. it's easy. you just answer some simple questions online, and you get coverage options to choose from. you're ruining my workout. cycling is my passion. you're ruining my workout. i never thought i'd say this but i found bladder leak underwear that's actually pretty. always discreet boutique. hidden inside is a super absorbent core that quickly turns liquid to gel. so i feel protected and pretty. always discreet boutique. [woman 2] ..this... [man 1] ...this is my body of proof.

[man 2] proof of less joint pain... [woman 3] ...and clearer skin. [man 3] proof that i can fight psoriatic arthritis... [woman 4] ...with humira. [woman 5] humira targets and blocks a specific source of inflammation that contributes to both joint and skin symptoms. it's proven to help relieve pain, stop further irreversible joint damage, and clear skin in many adults. humira is the number one prescribed biologic for psoriatic arthritis. [avo] humira can lower your ability to fight infections. serious and sometimes fatal infections, including tuberculosis, and cancers, including lymphoma, have happened, as have blood, liver, and nervous system problems, serious allergic reactions, and new or worsening heart failure. tell your doctor if you've been to areas where certain fungal infections are common and if you've had tb, hepatitis b, are prone to infections, or have flu-like symptoms or sores. don't start humira if you have an infection. [woman 6] ask your rheumatologist about humira. [woman 7] go to mypsaproof.com to see proof in action. big corporations are making and just got a huge tax break.

but the middle class is struggling. prop c is a common-sense plan. the top 1% of businesses pay their fair share to tackle homelessness for all of us. companies with revenue greater than $50 million pay, not small businesses or homeowners. the prop c plan is supported by the democratic party, teachers, and mental-health professionals. vote "yes" on c. big corporations pay for it, not you. i'm ready to crush ap english. i'm ready to do what no one on my block has done before. forget that. what no one in the world has done before. all i need access, tools, connections. high-speed connections. is the world ready for me? through internet essentials, comcast has connected more than six-million low-income people to low-cost, high-speed internet at home. i'm trying to do some homework here. so they're ready for anything.

well, i think i've been toned down, if you want to know the truth. i can really tone it up because as you know, the media has been extremely unfair to me and the republican party. i think the media is very, very unfair in terms of the republican party and the way it's been covered. >> so that was president trump talking on camera. we also mentioned just before the break have a brand-new tweet from the president. he writes quote, the fake news is doing everything in their

power to blame republicans, conservatives and me for the division and hatred that's been going on for so long in our country. it's actually, it's their fake and dishonest reporting that is causing problems far greater than they understand. we're less than 24 hours out from this shooting, this terrible tragedy. 11 people killed in a synagogue and this is what the president says is the reason why there is so much division and hatred. michael, we were talking during the commercial break and sam posed the question about during the watergate era for example when the white house was under some siege with legal problems to put it -- [ laughter ] >> small, small seeiiege. >> it was not a great career move. >> there was a lot of focus on the role of the press, obviously. woodward and burnstein at ""the washington post", what impact""

washington post", what impact does the presidentobviously woodward and burnstein at""the washington post", what impact does the presidentthe washington post", what impact does the president the washington post", what impact does the presidentthe washington post", what impact does the president "the washington post", what impact does the president, what does that do? >> if they report things about donald trump that are negative, he can say it's all wrong. i didn't do anything that i was accused of. it's the same problem when you have a president who is criticizing the fbi and justice department. you know, look at the situation we're in. usually in american history, at least for the last 50 or 100 years, if there is an incident like this, they say the fbi will be on top of this and the justice department will be on top of this. we devote all resources to make sure that whoever is to blame is brought to justice. how could donald trump do this when he's beating on the fbi and his attorney general in the tweets week after week? we're living in an alternative universe but it's not a good one and it's a dangerous one particularly at a moment like

this. >> kimberly atkins, one thing that did happen is there have been obviously on the fringes, suggestions this is a false flag ahead of the election. i mean, i'm sort of trying to figure out how much to read that into the president's tweet here? >> it's hard to avoid that, that has been not just in the fringes, this idea that this is a false flag that the democrats actually did this, that democrats were behind the bombings, the mail bombing attempts of last week. >> his reaction is always political. >> it's always a political calculous in that sense but at the same time, here he is once again going after the media days after a pipe bomb was sent to cnn. i mean, it's just in the past there would not have been that reaction. there would have been at least a brief cool off period before politics went back to usual, but that no longer is the case. anyone who he sees as a po political enemy or political

advantage ahead of the midterm elections is all fair game, and we don't see an alteration in that rhetoric. today he tweeted against tom steyer who is one of the people among those who had a bomb mailed to him attacking him calling him names on twitter. >> with a jewish father. >> it's astonishing. >> congressman israel, can you weigh in here, this sense that my colleagues at the "washington post" had a story where they wrote the president was aware of how his words impact the debate but he doesn't seem to really care that they do have that impact. this is how he's going to conduct business regardless. >> that's exactly right. i'm not sure this is a political calculations. this is donald trump. this is his dna and the way he's been before he was president. this is the way he will always be. i would add this, i've talked to a lot of my former colleagues in

the most competitive elections in their lives and they have said to me, look, he's -- if there is a political calculations, he's trying to rev up the base, get energy in the midterm election so he don't lose the house but what he's doing is further alienating those voters in the suburban districts, which is where democrats will win the majority. so even those republican candidates in those tough suburban moderate districts with lots of independents want him to heal. he's just not going to do it because fund mentally, he's not a healer and couldn't careless about the impact of the politics. >> sam stein, amy walter was on ""meet the press" this morning and she made the point nobody is stepping up to take responsibility for the changes in rhetoric. not the president, not republicans, not democrats. at the end of the day, how does this get fixed? >> i know. i've been really struck by sort of the complete and utter absence among anybody to be

honest in the wake of these tragedies. you know, yes, the media has its problems. i think that's a fair assumption, a fair statement to make. we can go through them. one of them is sensational and the devotion to conflict and we can be better about that. that's something we as people in the press core should recognize. at the same time, the elected officials who are elected to solve our country's problems have exhibited virtually nothing about this. i was struck by a tweet from john cothis morning, managed to find an old story from a week ago from the quoted nancy pelosi talking about confrontation. i don't know how he found that story. it was a week-old tweet. the purpose was clear. in this moment, creating equivalent is not productive. we had the tragedy, how do we

get beyond this? how do we get to a place where we don't encourage the next tragedy from happening and i don't see a political leader from doing that. when it comes to trump and the white house, our reporting, everyone's reporting, they do legitimately feel like the press has it in for them. maybe it's political but they have this feeling the press has it in for them. what really has moved trump in recent days is this notion that the new cycle is out of his control. this is a man who obsesses over trying to basically be a maestro, a conductor of the news cycle and really, really, really wanted it to be about the caravan and wanted it to be about the legislation he signed and the economic news and these real life events, horrible tragedies have gotten in the way of his ability to control the news cycle. what we see now is him lashing out in ways to recapture that control. >> try to pull it back. pull the spotlight back on him. congressman, thank you very much

for your time tonight. great to have you. >> thank you. still to come, to sam's point, the president is ready to pivot to talk about immigration and that caravan well south of our border once again. but first, i'm joined by david hogg who attended high school at pa parkland, florida. fortify schools to churches to synagogues. back after this. churches to synagogues back after this. so a tree falls on your brand new car and totals it. and as if that wasn't bad enough, now your insurance won't replace it outright because of depreciation. if your insurance won't replace your car, what good is it? you'd be better off just taking your money and throwing it right into the harbor. i'm gonna regret that. with new car replacement, if your brand new car gets totaled, liberty mutual will pay the entire value plus depreciation.

liberty mutual insurance. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪ up here at the dewar's distillery, all our whiskies are aged, blended and aged again. it's the reason our whisky is so extraordinarily smooth. dewar's. double aged for extra smoothness. if your moderate to severeor crohn's symptoms are holding you back, and your current treatment hasn't worked well enough it may be time for a change. ask your doctor about entyvio®, the only biologic developed and approved just for uc and crohn's. entyvio® works at the site of inflammation in the gi tract, and is clinically proven to help many patients achieve both symptom relief and remission. infusion and serious allergic reactions can happen during or after treatment. entyvio® may increase risk of infection, which can be serious. pml, a rare, serious, potentially fatal brain

infection caused by a virus may be possible. tell your doctor if you have an infection experience frequent infections or have flu-like symptoms, or sores. liver problems can occur with entyvio®. if your uc or crohn's treatment isn't working for you, ask your gastroenterologist about entyvio®. entyvio®. relief and remission within reach. diabetic nerve pain, these feet... ...raised a good sport... ...and became a second-generation firefighter. but i couldn't bear my diabetic nerve pain any longer. so i talked to my doctor, and he prescribed lyrica. lyrica may cause serious allergic reactions, suicidal thoughts or actions. tell your doctor right away if you have these, new or worse depression, unusual changes in mood or behavior, swelling, trouble breathing, rash, hives, blisters, muscle pain with fever, tired feeling, or blurry vision. common side effects: dizziness, sleepiness, weight gain and swelling of hands, legs, and feet. don't drink alcohol while taking lyrica. don't drive or use machinery until you know how lyrica affects you. those who have had a drug or alcohol problem

may be more likely to misuse lyrica. now i have less diabetic nerve pain. ask your doctor about lyrica.

mr. president, do you think you need to revisit gun laws? >> again, this has little to do with it if you take a look if they had protection inside the results would have been far better. this is a dispute that will always exist i suspect, but if they had some kind of a protection inside the temple, maybe it could have been a very much different situation. they didn't. >> president trump speaking to reporters yesterday just after he received word of the synagogue shooting in pittsburgh. yesterday's attack in which 11 people died accounts for just one of the 295 mass shootings in the u.s. this year, according to the gun violence archive. one of the most difficult memorable shootings this year took place on valentine's day in

parkland, florida when 17 students were killed. joining me is david hogg, a graduate of stoneman douglas high school and the co-author of the book "glimmer of hope." i'm happy to have you on the show. thank you for being here. my main question to you, you have stuck with this in the wake of what happened, the horrible tragedy with your classmates. you have pushed and pushed and pushed and we still see you and the fruits of your efforts are actually resulting in real changes to some of the laws in the state of florida. what are you seeing now just a week before the election in terms of your peers and this issue and how it's animating you and them? >> i think i'm seeing young people across the country standing up for change that they want to see. young people and americans in general are angry with our current leadership. people wants leadership that unites and doesn't divide us but

sees us as americans and human beings. i did a dorm storm where i knocked on over 100 doors on the campus of florida international university yesterday and talked to so many students that so many of whom said they were voting and said that we were able to enable them to go out and early vote and there are a lot of young people inspired to create this change, that really don't see this as a partisan issue because the fact people are dying is not a partisan issue. gun violence is not a partisan issue. this is an issue of publish health. america does not have any more -- america doesn't have higher rates of mental illness or any of the other like key demographics that tend to explain gun violence in other countries. the only difference is we have more guns than people. we have incredibly lax laws that allow somebody to go out and privately purchase a gun without a background check. we have laws that allow you to purchase military-style assault weapons that can shoot unbelievably powerfully and tear

you apart. the weapons of war that are used every day on our streets and in our communities are hurting and killing them and it's time for congress to stand up and act because in politics, you can say all you want but if you don't take action, your words are meaningless. >> the president has said or suggested using the death penalty more aggressively would detour people from the shooting like the one we saw yesterday in pittsburgh. what is your response to that? what's the policies advocating to try to put an end or at least to reduce these terrible tragedies? >> well, for one, we could actually fund gun violence research at the cdc and the national science foundation and more so when sadly this club of people that survives mass shootings grows bigger and bigger as politicians remain in the background doing nothing, we go to politicians and they can't say we don't have enough research on that and refuse to fund research. we have to start at the basics.

gun violence is a non-partisan issue. we need solutions that are da databased and can't get those unless we fund the gun violence research. one important thing to remember when trump says the on thing that would have been able to protect these people is armed guards, when they say the only thing that can stop a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun, what they are trying to do is sell you two guns. >> what are you-all doing to try to focus this as a top priority issue for voters? because the reality is if you look at the latest nbc news "wall street journal" polling, 24% say health care is their top issue, 23% say the economy and jobs whereas only 10% are saying guns is their top voting issue. how do you mobilize that? how do you put it at the forefront of people's minds? i know you and your friends and people in florida have seen the terrible tragedy but for others who haven't had something terrible happen in their community, how do you get this

in front of them so they don't mess it? >> i think it's just the fact that so long as we continue to grow support for commonsense gun laws that we've seen over 60 laws passed since the shooting at our school and over 25 states, extreme protection law in florida and so many others, the sad thing about low voter turnout, we only need a small percentage of the population to turn out and vote to create a massive change. this congress and this election on november 6th, americans have the chance to go out and save lives and elect politicians that don't try to divide and conquer but unite and conquer the challenges as people and attack the sources and not the people perpetrating it because in reality none of us are democrats or republicans or americans that have to face the same issues every day and we won't get anywhere by constantly blaming other people. we have to go after the sources of evil and not the perpetrating

it contrary to what the president likes to do. >> guns have come up as an issue. rick scott running against bill nelson for example. i remember in the early days after the parkland shooting, you and many of your friends traveled to tallahassee and try to knock on doors to get attention of the legislators and some trouble, got through to some of them. do you feel like governor scott and senator nelson have listened to your criticisms and concerns and what do you have to say about which one of them you think is more likely to fight for your issues and the propels you've laid out? >> i think both of them have been forced to take this change. i don't think if rick scott wasn't running for -- if rick scott wasn't planning on running for senate, he would have never signed the bill. if it didn't occur at the time it did, that bill would have never happened because he was forced to sign up because we brought the pressure on to governor rick scott at the time to sign that bill.

pa politicians never take action unless they are forced to no matter which side they are on and that's why i encourage young americans to vote for politicians that care about us dying in our communities and don't see the validity of violence but all violence as equal and something that never should have happened in the first place because we, no matter where we live, we're human beings that shouldn't have to experience violence in synagogues, temples, churches or streets. we're americans and we shouldn't have to live in the greatest country on earth experience more violence than any more developed country. >> pretty sharp assessment of how politicians make their decisions from a very young man who learned a lot in a very short time. david, thank you for being here tonight. again, his book "blaglimmer of hope" is on the shelves now. when we return, we'll talk about the split screen issues. the president wants to talk

about kavanaugh and the caravan and democrats want to talk about health care. what will drive americans to vote in the midterms. back after this. icans to vote in the midterms back after this.

this will be the election of the caravans, the kavanaughs, law and order, tax cuts and you know what else? it's going to be the election of common sense. >> that was president trump at a weekend rally under lining his top midterm issues. "the washington post" reporting

he'll announce a border crackdown on tuesday one week before election day and the president plans to depict migrants as a grave national security threat and continues to quote an nbc report that the trump administration is drafting an executive action that would make it increasingly difficult for central americans to seek sigh asylum in the u.s. and the ca caravan is being paid for quote the left with some suggestioning it has backing from george soros. here is an example of the kind of comments that have been floating around cable news.here of comments that have been floating around cable news. >> this is a criminal highly sophisticated operation. i have that from the highest levels of the guatemala government. they are investigating the groups criminally and i urge president trump and sessions to do the same here. a lot of these folks have affiliates getting money from the sorrows occupied state department and that's of great

season when they start cutting money, start cutting money there. >> those comments were disoc disdisavowed from the netwodisad from the network and pulled from airing. this is clear the way by the president ticked through those issues of him dividing the country to energize his base as these other events are going on that require a different, you know, tenure from a president. >> he's not even hiding the fact he doesn't want to be talking about this stuff. at the rallies after both the bombings, the bombs were discovered and last night after the pittsburgh shooting, up front he says i've toned it down for you admitting he wishes he didn't have to do that. he said he could have toned it up. at several other points, he's talked about his discomfort about the fact he feels like

this conversation has been moved away from immigration reform. it was embedded in his tweet where he put bombs and quotes and suggested the media conco concocted this as a way to hurt republicans. he feels very much like he should be able to control the news cycle and has the ability to do so. in this case, real world tragedy has struck and he has to be president and it's really getting in the way of his political priorities. >> michael, can i ask you, i remember there was a terrible shooting in dallas of police officers during the 2016 election. >> of course. >> i was set to cover a rally with hillary clinton and i believe joe biden, that was cancelled. >> of course. >> this president is out on the trail. >> this rally, we're talking about how many hours passed after this tragedy in pittsburgh until this campaign rally he put on and he said these things. i remember when presidents -- let's keep on reminding ourselves of the way that presidents normally behave when there is a tragedy of this magnitude, the president says this is not a time for

campaigning at least for 24 hours you get off the campaign trail. you don't have a big political rally like this. this is very different. >> yeah, and kimberly atkins, at this point, democrats are trying to focus somewhere different, which is health care, which our polling consistently shows at the top two issues that plus the economy and jobs but clearly, their messages has been breaking through to an extent with the president out there wanting to talk about different things. >> it has been breaking through. health care is a very personal issue that voters can relate to. we've all had high medical bills that are difficult to manage. i think that's one way the democrats thought they could get ahead of this. republicans who have fought tooth and nail against obamacare trying to repeal it are saying, their top talking point or one of them is how to protect preexisting conditions when they are doing everything they can to fight them, legislatively or a

lawsuit. health care is resinating. they know on the ground in house races, they are very local, that don't have the same -- that don't feel the impact of the national conversation the same way as other races do that emerge as a top point that both republicans and democrats are trying to capitalize on. >> sam, we covered the birth and life of obamacare over the years here in washington. i'm just so struck by the republican ads before where repeal and replace obamacare, how many election cycles do we have and they are running ads saying i'll protect preexisting conditions. >> surreal. even the elections before obamacare in the past were running ads about obamacare. it's surreal to see the complete reversal where you have people who voted dozens of times, especial especially, to undermine obamacare or repeal entirely saying they are at the forefront of the van guard protecting people with preexisting conditions. hypocrisy in the cases where you have governors who are running

for reelection on rick scotts's case or attached their name or the attorney general attached their name to a lawsuit that would literally undo the protections and out there saying you know what? ignore that. focus on my it's alice in wonderland. gaslighting. >> it's not the -- i should remember that. it has been a terribly dark week. when we come back, some brightness amid loss. that's longer than the buffalo wing's been around. dozen wings. and did you know that geico... (lips smacking) offers mo... (coughing) motorcycle insurance? ho-ho... my lips are burning. (laughs) ah... no, my lips are actually burning. geico. over 75 years of savings and service. see how much you could save at geico.com. it's too hot. oh, this is too hot, mate.

so, to breathe better, i go with anoro.

♪go your own way copd tries to say, "go this way." i say, "i'll go my own way, with anoro." ♪go your own way once-daily anoro contains two medicines called bronchodilators that work together to significantly improve lung function all day and all night. anoro is not for asthma. it contains a type of medicine that increases risk of death in people with asthma. the risk is unknown in copd. anoro won't replace rescue inhalers for sudden symptoms and should not be used more than once a day. tell your doctor if you have a heart condition, high blood pressure, glaucoma, prostate, bladder or urinary problems. these may worsen with anoro. call your doctor if you have worsened breathing, chest pain, mouth or tongue swelling, problems urinating, vision changes or eye pain while taking anoro. ask your doctor about anoro. ♪go your own way see if you're eligible pay no more than $10 a month.

amid the violence and hostility this week, we'd like to take a moment to remember another life that was cut way too short. tyrone gayle was a veteran democratic staffer who worked for tim kaine, hillary clinton and kamla harris, he was diagnosed with colon canser in 2016 and was successfully treated. but he relapsed within the past year and died in new york city on thursday. in a statement, senator harris wrote, gayle did this work tirelessly, always with a smile or a kind gesture. and he never lost faith in our ability to do good for the people of this country. tyrone is irreplaceable.

nor kaine officiated at tyrone's wedding just five months ago. if i'd go to an event and the next time i'd be back and tyrone wasn't with me, everyone would wonder where he was. tyrone was beloved by people on both sides of the aisle and by fans of all acc teams, tyrone gayle was 30 years old what to watch for in the week ahead. mu. ♪ i'm awake. but it was pretty nifty when jen showed me how easy it was to protect our home and auto with progressive. [ wrapper crinkling ] get this butterscotch out of here. progressive can't protect you from becoming your parents. there's quite a bit of work, 'cause this was all -- this was all stapled. but we can protect your home and auto when you bundle with us. but we can protect your home and auto do you want the same tools and seamless experience across web and tablet? yes? great! then you're ready for power e*trade.

the platform, price and service that gives you the edge you need. sweet! e*trade. the original place to invest online. we're gonna replace candy with some healthy halloween treats today. these are called veggie fruit chews tastes like poopy piñata! i threw up. i want candy!

( ♪ ) stop dancing around the pain that's keeping you awake. advil pm gives tossing and turning a rest and silences aches and pains. fall asleep faster, stay asleep longer with advil pm. first, it continues to pay paramedics while we're on break. second, it ensures the closest ambulance

can respond if you call 9-1-1. vote yes on 11. gavin newsom has lived the rich made him powerful. but he's done nothing to help us. every day i work harder. rent, food, and gas prices climb. poverty, homelessness-- gavin admits it. we created-- it happened on our watch. what you see out there on the streets and sidewalk happened on our watch. now he says he'll have courage, for a change, but gavin's had his chance for eight years, and he never lifted a finger. it's time for someone new. john cox, governor. proposition 11 "proposition 11 is a vote to protect patient safety." it ensures the closest ambulance remains on-call during paid breaks "so that they can respond immediately when needed." vote yes on 11. before ego, let's talk about

what you're watching in the week ahead. michael beschloss, what are you looking for? >> i hope we won't see donald trump sending armed forces to the boarder in something that seems designed to help him win the election one week later. an october surprise like this is not what a president should be doing. our armed forces are not there to help him politically. i hoepe we don't see such an abuse of presidential power. >> on that front after this announcement, of this likely executive order that will do things like stop asylum seekers who legally would be able to ask the government for reprieve. i'm watching to see how haus races, people in close house races reagts to this. this takes the conversation away from health care and forces them to have to react to this. >> sam? >> two things, one specific, will george soros be pulled from any of these ads on loop as a villain. because obviously we have this new context, secondarily on a very much more important note whether my red sox will clinch it could be tonight. >> sam has been talking about it.

>> i'm watching the mid terms this week, headed out to the heartland, iowa, wisconsin, missouri. take a look at all of it i also want to leave with you this one happy note. because the news has been very dark, but radar, our puppy turned one so there he is with his cookies and some presents, that's going to do it for us tonight here on kasie d.c. we'll be back here with you next week from 7:00 p.m. to 9:00 p.m. eastern. good knight from washington. this is the russian government have any compromising material on president trump or his family? >> does donald trump fear vladimir putin? personally, i believe he does. why does he fear him? i don't know. >> he has loomed over the trump presidency. >> there's no doubt among the american intelligence agency, the cyberattacks on the american election in two 16 were ordered