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nightmare and i'm going to wake up? there is hate and it isn't going away, it just seems to be getting worse. >> back on the attack, president trump, blaming the media today in the wake of the mass shooting. and after last week's mail bombs, after barely dialing back his usual rhetoric on the trail. >> and if you don't mind, i'm going to tone it down just a little bit, is that okay? no. okay. >> and youth group, a new poll shows young people are more engaged in this year's election than ever before in a midterm, will they vote? many say this time is different. >> we're losing decency in the political system, we need to come to an understanding, that as long as anyone has a different view from you, they don't hate this country.
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ing. a resilient pittsburgh community in the squirrel hill neighborhood, 11 members of that congregati congregation. the focus in pennsylvania today is on the victims, the "pittsburgh post-gazette" dedicating the entire front page to their names, their stories. joseph fienberg who was at the pulp pulpit when the assault started talks be it the assault. >> i haireard what i thought wa crashing metal of the coat racks and i thought maybe one of our seniors lost his or her balance
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and then shots rang out in about 10 or 15 second. i have never personally witnessed or heard gun fire, thank god, until this moment, something told me, this isn't -- i could tell the gun fire was getting louder and it was coming up the stairs. i couldn't see those eight people. i went up into the choir loft and i heard him execute my con greg congregation. >> i know this city is coming together, resiliently, but now there's a court heaps for -- >> reporter: we began the day not certain of that answer, we have indeed been told that he will in fact appear inside this courthouse at 1:00 eastern time. the question is whether he's already in the building behind
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me or hasn't arrived yet. a silver van followed by a black suv went into the building that could have been the suspect in this case being led into the building under heavy security. he is facing, as you know, an debran -- andrea, he is facing 29 poi counts and those 29 counts could get him the death penalty. the prosecutor's office has begun the process to seek approval for the death penalty in this case. it is ultimately going to be the decision of u.s. attorney general jeff sessions as to whether this prosecution will become a capital murder case here in pennsylvania. we can also tell you that around 9:45 local time, we got word that bowers was released from university medical center where
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he had been held since he was arrested on saturday afternoon. officials throughout the weekend were careful not to disclose the nature of his injuries, but he appears to have been well enough, recovered well enough, i should say, to make his initial appearance in court, again, scheduled at 1:30, and we are still camping out near those doors, with other media members who are looking for this suspected arriving. and as much as we have to cover what could be a years-long legal odyssey to prosecute this shooter, the focus that many people here in pittsburgh and probably across the country, want that focus to remain on those 11 people who lost their lives on saturday, so we will do our jobs here to cover what will be a long legal process, but our thoughts and prayers are with those people who lost their lives on saturday. >> of course friends and the family of the men and women who
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lost their lives, many of them elderly at tree of life sin nothisin -- synagogue. sisters, one a twin of 65-year-old victim richard gottfried, about how they want the nation to remember their dear brother. >> he touched a lot of people and in all areas of his life, and that just speaks to who he was. >> it not easy for you, both to be here talking to me. >> no, it's not. . >> you but i know you wanted to for a reason. >> and the reason is you have a job to do and you're going to be talking about it anyway, so the things that you say about him, i want them to be who he is.
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and he is, was the kindest, most loving, caring person. >> joining me now, msnbc analyst howard fineman, my friend, my colleague, howard is a pittsburgh native, he grew up attending services at tree of life synagogue where his parents taught sunday school and he was bat mitzvahed. his opinion pieces appear in the "new york times" and "wall street journal." our hearts are grieving with pittsburgh and i think it affects all americans and certainly those of us who grew up in synagogues, who understand the grief of this congregation, i think. lou, first to you, tell me how pittsburgh and you yourself are dealing with it. >> well, first of all thank you
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for having me on and i would like to thank "the wall street journal" for seeing fit to print my piece this morning. i'm dealing with it as well as anyone can. i mean, i didn't know the people well, but i did know five of the people there, i mean, that was, frankly the shibat service that i attended for about five years, i lived about five doors down from the synagogue at that time. and what this killer, murder, tried to do, basically, it's gone the other way. he wanted to strike terror and he wanted to kill jews and he did kill jews. but what he's done is, he's shown the resiliency and the solidarity of not just the pittsburgh community, jewish community, and the pittsburgh community, and the worldwide community, and the worldwide community that has decency and
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understands what evil is and what good is. and we will not be afraid. >> well, and howard, echoing that you wrote in the "new york times," you wonder if pittsburgh isn't safe for jews, if squirrel hill isn't safe, if the tree of life isn't safe, what place is? you're talking about your neighborhood and you have shared some pictures of yourself and your family as young people growing up in the 50s, late 50s and 60s. >> in that era and i wish it weren't here. andrea, doing this. i'm a reporter, i was reared in pittsburgh, i was reared in squirrel hill, i learn what i know of jewish tradition at the tree of life and in my parents and i sallied forth gfrom that
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loving peaceful environment to cover politics as i have done now for all of my adult life. and i never thought that the country i was writing about and the political system i was reporting on as contentious and wonderfully contentious as it is and it's designed to be, could end up being crippled by hatred. and i'm afraid that's the situation we're facing now. this is a jewish story, of course, it's my story. my parents taught in the very rooms where people were murdered. i was bat mitzvahed in the very sanctuary where people were murdered. but i have to step back as a reporter, as a political reporter, and wonder, since the jews have had this particular history of being the canaries in the coal mine of social breakdown. what we're looking at here, it's not just the jewish story, it's the story of the mother eman u u
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the story of the mother eman el church in charlottesville. it's the random shooting of americans in kentucky just the other day. i have to ask as a reporter, what's happening in our political system, in our public life in america that things seem to have gone so wrong, and that's a wrong conversation, but that's the one that ties me back to pittsburgh but also makes me look at the country as a whole. >> and lou, it does occur and this is a really hard thing to talk about. and i know it's controversial. but it's not just our political leaders, because we see thousands of people at rallies, starting in 20 16 and straight through to this weekend. who are cheering hateful speech who are, we as americans? >> it's a good point, but other than, i really can't think of anything less helpful than to be politicizing this. whether it's someone cheering
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louis ferrakhan, i mean this man hated jews. he actually hated trump, as it happens. and i mean, jews stand for certain values. and concern for the downtrodden is one of them. and, you know, in a certain sense, he knew where he was going. and he violated the most sanctified space that there is, i mean where jews go to connect with their god and to pray. and the concept of trying to blame this party or that party or this statement or that statement, i just think it's at that end. some people are trying to, you know, discourage donald trump from coming to pittsburgh. he should come. we want to talk to people. we want people to see what's here. we want people to experience
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pittsburgh. i mean, you know, ideas don't scare us. and i -- you know, to point this way, this finger or that finger, whether we're dleplorables or whether it's enemies of the people and the press, it's just not helpful. and it should be toned down, both among people and frankly among the press as well. >> howard? >> well, i was going to say, i don't think you mean to directly compare louis ferrak thhan and donald trump? >> i don't. >> you just did. >> in terms of the outrage that's directed one way and not another way. i think people would be -- >> here's my point. >> sure. >> there is politics and there's presidential leadership. above partisan politics, the
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president of the united states has a duty to try as the only person we all vote for in an election, to bring us together as a nation. and i think that donald trump's method of politics, i'm not agreeing or disagreeing with him on specific issues. but his method of politics is to sew division. that's how he rose, that's his whole career, that's how he became president, and that for the most part, except for a few scripted passages here and there is how he's proceeding. >> let me ask you about the c congrega congregants, the five people whom you knew and what can you tell us about the lives they led? >> i mean they showed up on time. they showed up on time. i belong to several synagogues, actuallier belong to four, and i used to belong to five and i used to belong to this one too and i was head of one of the
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constituent synagogues that merged with it. these guys were particulars, you need a mignon for 10 people. >> mignon is the word for ten people. >> and these guys showed up. and there's nothing you couldn't ask them to do. actually jerry belonged to a different temple. we had more than we needed to he took other synagogues into the building and jerry wrote for m.s. bike team. he was a prince of a guy, because i knew some people when we were negotiating to take space in the building. it's just not -- i call her mrs. mallinger, they'ir kids and the families, i would like to say they're atypical kl, but they're typical of the kind of people you're going to find in pittsburgh. honest and decent and involved
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and showing up. i mean, you know, the famous line, 80% of life is just showing up. they showed up. >> thank you, so much, and howard, thank you and for your thoughtful responses, both of you and we'll be talking more about how president trump reacted this weekend to the pittsburgh shooting. we'll be right back. my ancestrydna results revealed parts of me i didn't even know. i find out i'm 19% native american specifically from the chihuahua people. what?! that's - i find that crazy. it traces their journey from the mid-1800s from central mexico to texas. learning about the risks they took for a better life
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somebody just said your hair looks different today. i said, well, i was standing under the wing of air force one doing a news conference early this morning, a very unfortunate news conference, and the wind was blowing and the rain and i was soaking wet. and that's wh ee's what i ended today. and i said at least you know it's mine. i said maybe i should cancel this arrangement because i have a bad hair day. >> there was thought of
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canceling his political stop in illinois but he didn't. but he joked about canceling it perhaps because he had a bad hair day, just hours after 11 people were murdered in a pittsburgh synagogue by a gunman on a hate filled shooting tree. our msnbc political analyst and our reporter at large for the "new york post" and "the washington post." one you would think we would get a briefing like we used to get. a lot of focus on the president's words in the hours and days after the attack. >> that's exactly right. i think the word daily is no longerttitude for the briefing. i guess star aarah sanders focun
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this narrative, and the president's language and action are somehow responsible for the climate of hate and reducing attempted bombings and political shootings in a synagogue, there's little regard about that in the white house these days, at the same time there's not a lot of reflection on whether the president ought to take a different tone, he's clearly made his point that he doesn't think he has to, he can say the things he needs to say in terms of expressing grief a at the moments when the scripts are handed to him. but the next moment he's going to go back to his regular campaign rhetoric talking about his components and the media as the enemy of the people and things like that. >> again today, he's tweeting against the media, there's straight anger in our country, caused by inaccurate and far
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deliberate reporting of the news, the true enemy of the people must 12stop, the open an honest that will do much to put out the flame of anger and outrage, and we will then be able to bring about peace and harmony, that news must end. on the stuff and on twitter, bill, it's against the news media. >> against the news media, the caravan of the refugees, is the incyitining rhetoric that this person used, a bit because of the synagogue helping the refugee resettle a resettlement aid society, that's what came together his hatred of jews and hatred of jews and refugees, even more than the hatred of jews, the president has to take some responsibility for that,
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it's been him whipping up a frenzy about this caravan 2,000 miles away for the last two or three weeks. but peter has to cover the white house briefing, he's an excellent white house reporter, honestly as you reported, if you do the white house briefing, i have no interest in it. the president has made clear his views. he's made clear his lack of intent to do anything in this country, to dissuade to the extent he is able to dissuade people. obviously there's disturbed people and so forth, but he's done nothing to dissuade people from following out this logic, he's done nothing to bring the community together. so i'll have to do it. and the communities in pittsburgh and around the country have come together in very admirable ways and we'll have to look to the next few days and next few years, because
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i have given up on donald trump as playing any positive role. >> he described you from the stump as a loser. bill, i know, to be targeted that way and the news media has to be targeted certainly by the suspect, of course in the pipe bomb case and another bomb, a third one, directed at cnn has been reportedly found in atlanta at cnn headquarters. peter, the news media being targeted is an issue, because it is inflaming a lot of people, and having an impact. >> oh, absolutely, and the idea that the president of the united states would refer to the enemy of the people, on the same day, that a suspicious package is very striking. i can't imagine another president doing that, it's not to say that there's not something to be debated. you certainly have the conversation about what role the media plays in, you know, inflaming debate in this country, fair enough. but what we typically hear, though, from a president, is
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something above that, in other words a president who finds ways of trying, at least, on a surface level to bring people together rather than, you know, accusing everybody else of acting badly and putting the blame on everybody else for what he himself is supposed to be demonstrating leadership on, this is a president who just sees himself as just one more player in the crowd rather than having a different, special, and unique responsibility that we typically assign to our presidents in times of crisis. >> peter baker and bill crystal, thank you so much for you both being with us today. and kcoming up, a gender ga? what's necessary to lower than gender gap. you're watching andrew where mitchell reports only on msnbc.
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says that 65% are involved in this election. that trend is holding true for several key voting blocs including suburban women who could tilt things in battleground states. they're saying the current climate inspired them to take action. >> who want toss tell me why you are now politically active, sherry. >> my family and my grandchildren, they can't live in a world like this. >> what world like what? >> oppression, people taking away women's rights. >> i am tired of all the evil that's been coming down on us for the past almost three years, i cannot tolerate it any longer. >> joining me now is nbc's chris jansing in waxhall, north carolina. some interesting responses
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there. our poll shows that 67% of suburban women have high interest in the midterms and that's higher than the national average of 65%. >> reporter: this is a perfect example, and north carolina is trump country, he won here by 12 points, we haven't seen a democrat elected to congress here since 1962, but grass roots activism from people like carolyn and ava are turning it around. a ava, what's your take away in the last year and a half since you've been organizing? >> we have to be active, we can't rely on other people to take decisions for us and we need better representation. that's why we're backing dan mccrede. >> a democrat said oh, you silly girls. what went through your minds at that point? >> i think it highlight tsz fact that there are people that carry
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views like that. it's also saying that people in this district, about women voters because he has background views on women as well. >> he has one that says the biblical views of women should be taken into consideration, by these silly girls, they started with two, they're now 1,200 of whom, 70% are women. >> chris jansing, on the root, thank you so much and joining me now. chrissy hoolihan, representative of six suburban communities, north and west of philadelphia. tell me, what you're finding, chrissy, is it women who are the bulk of your followers, how are you seeing the voters as you n canv canvas? >> thank you certainly for having me, certainly there is remarkable amount -- it is also driven by people in our community similar to the one you were just interviewing are per
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approximately people, 50% democrats, 50% republicans, but the vast majority of us are just energized for change, for representation, that is different. we're looking for people with service backgrounds who are interested in represents us in washington. >> this district, you've got an open seat there, greg mccauley, your opponent, is an attorney, first-time candidate, tell me how this thing is planning out, because pennsylvania notably did not go for hillary clinton. the turnout was not what was expected for her in districts like your own. >> as i mentioned, this is a district that is a purple place, we are split between democrats and republicans and in terms of my background, what i hope to bring on all of our behalves is a level of experience. what we have in our group is largely lawyers and people who are politicians. i'm an engineer, i'm a veteran, i'm a successful entrepreneur
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and most reicentingly been involved in education. and i hope to bring that diversity to congress on all of our behalves as well. i think that's what americans are working for, people that have the same values as them in their representation. >> not in western pennsylvania near pittsburgh, but all of the state has got to be gripped, all the nation really is gripped by the jewish community in pittsburgh. >> my father was a hidden child, he came here as a 5-year-old as a child having survived the holocaust in the war, of course this issue is personal to me, but it frankly is pshl to aerso all of us. how we treat one another is fundamental to who we are and this is not our america. >> and when you look at congress and when you look at the
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leadership there in both parties, what frustrates you about the current congress. >> so i think when we're talking about the doors here in our district, our issues are kitchen table issues, they are issues of health care or education, or issues of great jobs and opportunity. be the last thing i think are the most prevalent issues are happy communities and safe communities, so also just decency and also that we treat one another with civility. and our folks here are -- doesn't represent those values. >> and i just want to say you were a captain in the air force reserve. three years active duty, 13 years on reserve and you had an engineering degree from stanford, you are an rotc, a different background than a lot of the politicians we see in washington, d.c. so it's a fascinating change in politics and we wish you to be all the luck and be safe out on
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the trail. >> i appreciate that and thank you for having me today. >> we have reached out to chrissy's republican challenger, or opponent because it's an open seat, greg mccauley, and we hope he will be able to join us on the show later this week. and coming up, hate in america, domestic terrorism is a growing threat. stay tuned on "andrea mitchell reports" on msnbc. (chime) - [narrator] meet shark's newest robot vacuum. it powerfully cleans from floors to carpets, even pet hair, with ease, and now for cleaning surfaces above the floor, it comes with a built in shark handheld. one dock, two sharks.
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irrationally in trying to create laws around that is not the way that we should govern. >> pittsburgh's mayor on "meet the press," after president trump said if there had been an armed guard inside the tree of life synagogue, the gunman could have been stopped, and the results could have been better. and next up is former acting director of the cia, who grew up in the pittsburgh area, specifically squirrel hill. i know this is a real shot through the heart, really, emotionally, to the jewish community globally. >> andrea, could i say something to start, please. i just want you to know that there are people here who appreciate what you dow and i have been so overpowered by the media people and so many that i have melt and the camera men and the producers and the anchors,
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and you should know you appreciayou -- we appreciate ma ywhat you do and thank you. >> a lot of people are being targeted, another suspicious device was found, the third one mailed to cnn today, still being checked out by the fbi, this one in atlanta, but this is a fraught time, but the rise of anti-semitism and of domestic terrorism obviously is a huge concern. the twisted explosions we have seen, what happened on saturday is just unspeakable. how does the community come together and how do you deal with this awful assault? >> well, it's hard, and i have been the last couple of days since i heard, i was home, i got a phone call while it was happening, i came down to be of comfort to people.
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pittsburgh is a very special community, we're a tight knit jewish community. we're a tight knit community, jews and not jews. and this was an attack against all of us. the community came together, has come together, we enter, tomorrow is the first first ral so we'll know what will be happening, so we enter a period of real mourning and grief, sort of getting over the shock of the past couple of days, tough times are ahead, but we have to be there for each other. >> we should know that the rise in anti-semitism, according to the anti-defamation league, there are almost 2,000 incidents of anti-semitism in the united states in 2017 in just one year. you spent a year performing duties for the cia amend other parts of the government and now what we see is such a rise on
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domestic terrorism. chris wray, the fbi director testified that there are 1,000 open cases of white supremacists that they're still investigating. >> one of the problems that chris wray spotted in that testimony, is that unlike foreign terrorists where there's a procedure for going into court, to monitor potential terrorists, there's no such comparable law. >> that's the controversial, i must say, fisa courts will fund surveillance. >> and there are some organizations in our country, particularly the southern poverty law center in montgomery, alabama, that keeps track of domestic aid group, they are counting close to 900 such groups and in the latest rise, there's been a steady rise in the last three years, these are white supremacists, ne-yo not cities, black groups and so forth. so it's a genuine problem that we have to worry about and we have to be careful not to stoke
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it. >> and somehow it gets, rabbi, it gets into the bloodstream on social media, there was a tweet that kevin mccarthy took down and there was a tweet about kevin mccarthy against george soros, and some stom steyer, an bloomberg accusing them of buying the election, minority leader, becoming the majority leader if the democrats win the house. but there's one thing that affects these three big contributors. is jjudaism. >> some people can only run on fear. and that's why the hate groups are emboldened to act. this wasn't necessarily a group, that was an individual who struck here and that can happen
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anywhere. i always say that hate and guns make a terrible thing happen and that's what happened again happened here. you know, as president obama said how hard is it to say that you -- that nazis aren't good. and i think there have to be str strong statements when that happens and i think that's been a failure by some. >> and john mcglaclaughlin, thee is not here, as we see white nationalists and neo-nazis gaining traction in europe, a right wing candidate became president of brazil overnight. >> it seems to be a global phenomenon and here's what bothers me about it. a lot of people look to the united states for the role modeling. and to the extent that we don't do something about this or to the extent to which our president continues to, the kind of rhetoric that i think can be
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connected to this, i think indisputab indisputably, we set a very bad example for the world and many people feel justified in moving in that direction, if that is something that's happening in the united states. >> thank you very much, john mclaughlin, thank you very much rabbi diamond, thank you so much for being with us today. and coming up, rock the vote, could young voters help decide the midterms? what are they looking for in their candidates? stay right here on "andrea mitchell reports" right here on msnbc. let's put down roots. let's build something. let's do the thing that you do. let's do the thing that changes the shape of everything... that pushes us forward and keeps us going. let's do the work.
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a new harvard study today shows that young voters may be ready to take charge. the poll by the kennedy school's institute of politics said the share of 18 to 29-year-olds to vote jumped from the last midterms to 40% this fall. that almost matches results from college reaction, a group measuring public opinion among college students. joining me is nbc's savannah sellers who's been out among college students in florida. and cyrus bethlau. welcome both. savannah, what are you hearing from college students in
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florida? >> so, i'm asking them, you know, what issues do you care about? what is washington talking about that you don't necessarily care about? health care. they don't feel actually affects their day-to-day and therefore isn't really going to motivate them or their peers did go out and vote. there are a couple of issues they care about down here in florida. the environment is a big one and this weekend at fsu i went to a tailgate. gun control is a big one. >> what are your guy's views on gun control? >> my member of the family is a member of the nra. people have their own reasons for everything but i don't think it's all or nothing. i think there's a middle ground for it. >> i think that something has to be done to prevent mentally ill people from getting their hands on guns. >> another issue agree with in the florida gubernatorial race is school security.
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very good idea, actually. >> so, as you heard there, a lot of different opinions on gun control. yeah, absolutely. so a lot of different opinions there on gun control and they feel that it will motivate them and a thing that very interesting hearing from them is that difference of opinion but they are able to come together and have a conversation about it. even at a school here within the state of florida just six hours north of parkland. they're able to talk about it an they're not interested in the tribalism of washington, andrea. >> and savannah's reactions there that she is getting from the florida students, cyrus, when you measure college opinion are you sensing that college students are really tuning out and turned off by the anger in washington? >> most definitely. to frame things in 2014, we had 18% of college students voting. our latest findings are telling us that 49.5% of college students will definitely vote. it's lopsided for democrats and
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had 57% of democratic respondents to be voting versus only 40% of republicans students so not sure about a red wave or a blue wave but i think it would be fair to forecast the student surge a week from tomorrow. >> we have talked before, all of us talked about young people voting, the college vote and then it doesn't materialize on election day. >> sure. >> what are the distractions and what is the dropoff? >> right. absolutely. i think three key forces to underlie a substantial change. one is passion. trump is the fulcrum here. never been in the history an election such a referendum on a specific president and will have students rebuking or having trump's back. two is money and organization. there's been better ground games and an insane amount of money poured in to mobilizing the student vote. so next gen america raised over $33 million as we all know and new tech.
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streamlining the voter tren registration. facebook and snapchat and the goal is to meet college students where they are which is often on an iphone. >> fascinating stuff. stay with it. we'll have you back. savannah, thank you for being with us today. we'll be right back. of helping you. business loans for eligible card members up to fifty thousand dollars, decided in as little as 60 seconds. the powerful backing of american express. don't do business without it.
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and finally today, as we reflect on the anger and resentment inflecting our politics and moments possibly fueling the minds of terrorists, let's pause a moment and consider what binds us together as americans. we're a nation built on immigrants, dedicated to the often unfulfilled promise that all people of all colors, religions and genders are welcome and are created equal. we'll never be able to prove cause and effect between ugly speech and unspeakable acts of violence but if only to help heal the wounds of victims of violence and above all the impressionable children growing up in this atmosphere, let this be a moment to pull back from the abyss. reach out to a friend, a neighbor, an adversary. reject the poison that's spewing forth online and in some of the media. if you do not find consolation from the leaders then let it come forth from ourselves. peace be with you. now here's my colleagues and
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friends ali velshi and stephanie ruhle. >> that was amazing. that is exactly right. if it's not coming from somewhere else outside of you we have it in ourselves to spread peace and dignity and respect and dialogue and empathy to each other. thank you for that, andrea. starts us off to a great start. >> a little bit of love. it is monday, october 29th. let's get smarter tie bullet holes are too numerous to count but we'll rebuild. retrieve life. 154 years we have been here. you can cut off some branches but the tree will continue to grow and we'll be back. >> our hearts are with these families. wonderful, wonderful families. >> he was a fun guy. everybody loved him. >> he is -- was the kindest, most loving, caring person. he always did for others.
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