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i don't know what to say. i'm honored to be here. better to be with you than with trump as a winner. >> my thanks to the panel. that does it for our hour. the fabulous katie is in for chuck. >> it's fine. third rate loser. >> i got that. >> thank you very much. if it is monday, america is on edge. good evening, i'm katie tur in new york. 11 dead in pittsburgh, 2 killed
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in kentucky, 15 mail bombs and 1 very toxic, fearful and bleak political environment now just eight days before the midterm elections. amid-the tragedy, there's signs of hope and healing, but there are also signs of more by the. er ness and more anger. some of the most inspiring messages have come from those moment impacted by this weekend's horrific events in pittsburgh. spouting conspiracy theories about immigrant invade ersz killed 11 con degree gants at a synagogue. an unspeakable tragedy, this was the message from community leaders. >> my texts, my e-mails, my facebook overflow with love from strangers, people i have never met, people who are not from the
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united states, but from all around the world. jewish, christian, muslim, all with the same message. we are here for you. my cup overflows with love. that's how you defeat hate. >> we saw people coming together last night standing in the rain, hugging each other, crying together, being together. bigotry will not win. hatred will not win. >> we have also heard calls for unity and healing from the president and this afternoon the white house said he would be vitting pennsylvania tomorrow to grieve with the pittsburgh community. but we have also seen the president and the white house repeatedly stoke division since the shooting, including repeated attacks on the media just hours after the fbi confirmed that another mail bomb had been sent
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to cnn. so is there a way out of this toxic sludge we call american politics in the trump era? richard cohen is the president of the sovereign poverty law center. he joins our panel. ruth marcus is an msnbc contributor and deputy editorial editor and david french is a senior writer at the national review. this question goes out to all owl yof but but i'm going to pose it to richard first. we are 48 hours since the horrific attack at the synagogue. where is your head at? what are you thinking? >> it's an incredibly sad day, sad week for the country. and i'm incredibly worried. the president says something must be done, it just seems he has a hard time looking in the
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mirror and realized he's energized the radical right. there's been a 20% increase in hate groups. it's going to take leadership at all levels in our churches, our school, our community groups and it would be great if it could start at the ptop. but i wonder if that's beyond him. he doesn't have a a lot of empathy. >> folks are thinking of themselves. how do we get out of this. how do we change the conversation. how do we start to heal wounds, turn down the rhetoric, turn down the volume. ruth, do you see a way out of it without looking to the stop without looking to the president of the united states? >> i think you ask the question in the right way because looking to the top is going to leave us all feeling pretty unsatisfied and frustrated i think. i think the answer has to be the extent that there is an answer.
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with the rallying of ordinary americans because whatever, the tragedy in pittsburgh has just united us all. everybody, every decent american, every decent person on the planet who has learned about this recoils at this carnage. and i think we understand this is not us. this is not who we are as americans to tolerate this kind of hatred turning into violence. but if we're not going to get the response that we need from our political leaders, maybe we need different political leaders so maybe the solution is bottom up and the slow process of voting and finding leaders who can rise to these occasions. >> in looking to the president, david, in look iing at the way
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he's handled this since the mail bombs were sent out, since the attacks on the synagogue on saturday, he's continued to use that divisive rhetoric talking about the migrant caravan, which supposedly it's inspired to some degree the pittsburgh shooter calling it an invasion of our country. he's sending troupe troops to the border. he continues to call the news media, the true enemy of the people. tom stier, who got one of the bombs, a crazed and stumbling lunatic. governor candidate andrew gillum he called a thief today. i think few people would argue about that. given that, how do we -- how should we be talking about this? should we be including the president of the united states
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in this conversation? i mean, we have struggle d with it in the newsroom. if we place the comments from the press conference where she says the media is the one responsible for this hate and division echoing what the president is saying on twitter, are we only allowing the white house to bait substance abuse this argument that they think works for them. is there a way to talk about the current events and the hate crimes and the violence without being baited? >> i think you have to be very careful how we talk about these things. we have these two terror attacks. we have the bomber and the synagogue shooter. what a lot of people have tried to do is conflate them inappropriately. it's something we haven't seen that much of before.
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that is a political superfan, somebody who is a trump superfan who is targeting trump's named political enemies. the other situation we had somebody that was not a trump fan. he reject ed donald trump. targeting somebody who was not one of trump's named enemies. and i think one of the things that contributes to polar raigs is when you lump it all together and describe all of it to the president or none of it to the president, it's important we try to bes a precise as possible about this. >> it's fair to point out the pittsburgh shooter railed against the president as well. said basically on these social media sites he was bought by the jews. but he was talking about the caravan and invaders and he was railing against this are resettlement organization that helps resettle jewish refugees. so there was something of a connection there. is it fair to make that
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connection or is that taking it too far, in your opinion? >> i think it's taking it too far. these radicals will look at current events and the caravan was all over the news. it's been all over the news for a long time. they look at current events and react. we actually had this bomber who was engaged in what appears to be attempted murder directly targeting people that trump had targeted becauseover his left for trump. we're losing the threat on that very important development in american politics. we're get. ing into this argument about this guy who didn't like trump, who targeted people that trump wasn't targeting. because was there a connection because of climate, atmospherics and that gets very mushy, very difficult to define. it also alienates a lot of people as you say if you're against the caravan, then you're giving aid and comfort to a murder or you're complicit in the climate of hate.
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that's when we start to polarize rather than come together in response to something like this. >> what do you think? >> i think there's a pattern in the way president trump tends to respond to crises. that will happen. he will give an off the cuff response that doesn't satisfy anybody and then he'll read a speech that was partly written or fully written by his staff. he will flip a switch and polarizing and devisive. that's a pattern playing on the instingtss that has worked for him. it's very easy to see how it could trigger something in somebody who is unhinged and make them. want to do it. he's not shown an indication that he's to be conciliator in chief.
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i was in nevada a few days ago and the senate nominee praised president bush for his comments after 9/11 going to a mosque and saying we're not at war with the muslim world. this is a different category. >> actions speak louder than words. especially when words are read off a teleprompter. come out in the more natural venue for the person. we were talking about pittsburgh. we're talking about the mail bombs. we haven't talked about what happened in kentucky. what investigators are looking into down there. a grocery store being looked as a potential hate crime, you watched all this. you watched the rise in what's happening around the country. tell me what have you seen? what change have you seen in the last few years? >> we have seen a real surge in hate groups.
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we saw a big increase in the number of hate incidents around the count tr try. sadly about 40% of them bore trump's signature. what i mean by that is they used a slogan, his name, or they used his words about women. but there's been social norms from trump's candidacy. trump has unearthed some demons. when norms are fraied. they are formed over a long period of time. >> two interesting examples were pointed out by. a change in the way at least two republican politicians have spoken about donald trump in his rhetoric. marco rubio who was running in 2016 said this is what happens when a leading presidential
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candidate goes around feeding into a narrative of anger and bitterness and frustration. obama used divisive language as well, but hasn't called people in the crowd to beat people up. then today a nation that's mostvill vizable leaders rely on anger to motivate people will become a nation of very angry people. no longer using donald trump's name. the other example is mitt romney after charlottesville. he said jews, blacks, hispanics are as much a part of america as whites and protestants. but today they wonder where might this lead to tears or perhaps to anger and violence. now mitt romney is saying discussing threats and actions against fellow americans and institutions are sadly unsurprising. hate acts follow hate speech. it's past time for us to turn down and tune out rabid rhetoric. there's a bit of a change in
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those two statements. they are not necessarily pointing at donald trump today as they were in the past. why do you think the rhetoric has gotten slightly more vague surrounding what the president says from republican leaders today than when he first started handing it out or saying it in certainly in 2016 maybe after charlottesville. why haven't we heard an uproar from republicans about the state of the political environment and political dialogue and the language that the president of the united states uses. i'll pose that to you. >> sure, i think there's a very obvious answer to that. which is fear. fear of donald trump. republican elected officials and republicans who want to become or remain elected officials are deathly afraid that standing up to president trump will be dangerous if not fatal to their
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political health and the way they were willing to take him on when he was a mere candidate or even a mere nominee has now almost completely dissipated in the pace of his grip on the republican party. they are so scared of him. they are not willing to stand up to denounce or even criticize rhetoric that they know is not helpful, that's divisive, that a president of the united states in the aftermath of these bombs sent to cnn and in the aftermath of this attack should not be turning his focus on the media as the true enemy of the american people. that's wrong. republicans know it. they are just too scared to say it. >> david, what do you think? >> i think that one of the things you saw after scha charlottesville, trump said something that stunned a lot of
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people on both sides of the aisle. there was something that he said right there that was so outrageous that it triggered a response. this time what you have is a real right on the eve of an election, you have a real timidity. there should not be timidity. particularly with regard to the bomber. because let's be really clear here. it has been known for a long time that there's a trump superfan community that has turned on trump critics and conducted campaigns of threats and harassment and intimidation. now attempted violence. that's been known for awhile. >> that's my point. for the president himself doesn't turn it down, if the president himself doesn't stop with that rhetoric, it's not forced to stop with that rhetoric by his own party by the people who can put that sort of pressure on him. how do you ever calm down a
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supporter like sayoc who plasters his van with trump pictures and maga pictures and democrats and cross hairs and cnn sucks. actions that match words and republicans who say we don't want to be involved with this, how do you stop that from happening? >> i will tell you this. there's a sense of futility on the gop side. the number of people who said to donald trump stop these tweets, don't say these things. stop these tweets. don't do this anymore. it's all of the people, many of the key people around him in the outer orbit, there's a sense of futility that he's going to do what he's going to do. >> but they have the ability to push back on him. they are not a weaker arm of government. congress is an equal arm of government. they have the political ability
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to push back. they can sensor the president. they could refuse to work with him on certain things until he tone it is down. they do have some leverage. it's not completely futile. >> nobody is going to say i'm not going to vote for a pro life judge until donald trump stops tweeting. that's not going to happen. nor should that happen. but people should be bold enough to use their voice to say what they actually think. because what they actually think is time and time again, they are utterly appalled by what they see coming out of the white house. but they will not say so. and because they will not say so, what that does is it communicates to the supporting public that trump is in the mainstream of the political thought. many have more biting things to say and they will not say them. >> thank you all.
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cnn and top democrats. and officials tell nbc news that he had a long list of potential targets. possibly even over 100 people. he made his court appearance and says another suspicious package was sent to cnn's facility innen atlanta. and intercepted a at local post office. meanwhile the u.s. attorney based in pittsburgh has started the process to seek the death penalty for the man accused of killing 11 worshippers at a synagogue on saturday. that's because the charges against the suspect robert bowers include a hate crime for obstructing free expression of religion. i'm joined now by justice correspondent pete williams, who has been following both stories. pete, let's start with sayoc. 100 people on his research list. what are authorities doing to make sure those people are aware of any packages that could be coming to them? >> telling them. they have teams of people going
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to basically door to door to talk to these folks. there's a couple reasons for it. one is the fbi is long recognized what it calls a duty to warn. you may remember a couple years ago when isis put out a list of members that ought to be targeted. the fbi tried to get to all those folks and warn them. there's a more practical thing here as well. the postal service now says given the fact that the fact he was arrested on friday, they believe any packages he sent, if he did send any on thursday, would be through the system by tomorrow. so they can't guarantee they know all of them. there might still be some out there. so for that reason, they want to tell this people as well. so it's been a busy day for two-person teams from the fbi, joint terrorism task forces in many cities here in washington and new york from what we understand telling these people, hey, he was looking up your information. >> what happened with him in
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court today? >> very brief hearing today for both him and for robert bowers, the man accused of shooting people at the synagogue on saturday. these are brief appearances. these are initial appearances and all they do is say these are the charges against you. the way these things work in the federal system it's the chance for the lawyers to say, hey you got the wrong guy. that didn't happened in either case. they are going to be held without bond until subsequent hearings. it was short for sayoc. he was brought into court and shackled, which is standard in violent crime cases. and he basically had a lawyer appointed for him. the same thing really for bowers in pittsburgh. >> any pleading going on yet? >> no, there are never any pleadings at these initial stages. these are just initial appearances. they are to say, hey, these are
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the charges against you. the pleads come when people are arraigned. then they plead guilty or not guilty. that doesn't happen at this stage. >> in pittsburgh with robert bowers, what's the process for potentially pursuing the death penalty? >> well, the way it works in the federal system, it's changed over the years. back during the clinton administration when janet reno was attorney general, there was a concern that the death penalty was being used excessively against african-americans. to try to prevent that, make sure the death penalty was being handled fairly, the justice department set up this review process. so any u.s. attorney who wants to recommend a death penalty be pursued in a case has to make a recommendation to the justice department where it's reviewed. normal ly that process is confidential. we never know what the attorney has recommended. but exceptions can be granted. that's what's happened here. now we know that the u.s. attorney there scott brady plans to recommend that the government
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seek the death penalty. it's a death eligible crime. the hate crime of interfering with someone's federal ri protected right to worship, which is what he's charged with. >> i was talking to tom winter earlier on my show before i talked to you. and he was talking about how robert bowers was pretty clear in his motivation for why he shot up the synagogue and that he was even during the negotiation process with authorities and the shootout saying anti-semitic things. was that brought up in court at all today? anything else having to do with that? >> no, these appearances don't really go through the evidence, but there are many reasons why the government is charging hate crimes. number one, the fact that he singled out a synagogue. number two, the social media post he had that were rife with anti-semitic kmencomments, law enforcement are aware of that. according to law enforcement and
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witness, he said i want to kill jews while he was shooting, as he was in the gunfire with police, while he was being treated in the ambulance and brought to the hospital and while he was being treated by doctors and the hospital today said the people who were treating him were jewish doctors. he's saying i want to kill jews. >> he made it abundantly clear. that's the long and short of it. pete williams, thank you. ahead we're following breaking news. the president sending thousands of troops to the u.s./mexico border. plus a radical shift with our nation so divided, how did we fight extremism? former homeland security secretary je johnson joins pus. blaz i don't want any trade minimums. yeah, i totally agree, they don't have any of those. i want to know what i'm paying upfront. yes, absolutely. do you just say yes to everything? hm. well i say no to kale.
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. welcome back. we want to take a moment to remember the victims of saturday's shooting at the tree of life synagogue. in jewish life there are those known as the regulars. the people who reliably show up every week to participate in prayers. the tree of life lost 11 of its regulars this past sabbath. joyce fineberg was 75, retired from a career as an education researcher. friends call her profoundly thoughtful. richard goth freed was 65. he was about to retire from his career as a dentist.
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haefs doctor and ran toward the gunfire to help the wounded. david rosenthal was 54. his older brother was 59. the two were kind and gentle spirits. bernice simon was 84. silvan simon, her husband, was 86. people say they were always smiling, always holding hands. daniel stein was 71. he was a leader in the congregation. he had recently become a grandfather. irving younger was 69. he was often the first to greet visitors at the synagogue. melvin wax was 88. he served in all sorts of
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boarder and rise in extremism, but you want to touch on pittsburgh first. >> yes, it's important to remember as you just did in the prior segment that in the midst of the political debate about the climate, there are families grieving of 11 people who were killed on saturday. dr. jerry happens to be the brother-in-law of one of my law partners. he was a physician, as i understand it, would treat aids patients a the a time when not all doctors would do so. so a hero in the community and should be remembered for that. >> how is this family? >> my law partner is with them now. it's got to be a big shock for any one of these families. us yo say good-bye to your family on the way to the synagogue and they never come home. so we deal with this kind of tragedy far too often in this country. >> i want to talk about the
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extremism we're seeing and the violence we're seeing here at home. let's get the news out of the way, which is the president is sending troops to the border. what is your take on that? is it necessary? >> a lot of people don't want to hear this, but there are no easy fixes to illegal migration on the southern border. it's a fraction of what it used to be. 18 years ago we had 1.6 million on the border. the the last several years during the obama and trump years, it's been in the 400,000s and you can do these quick hit sort of fixes with a name with a lot of snap, crackle and pop to it. but so long as we fail to address the underlying conditions in central america that are driving families to come to our southern border in the first place, the powerful push factors, we're going to continue to bang our head against the wall and deal with the problem. i know from having owned this problem for three years. >> is it necessary to send
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troops to the border to deal with a caravan? >> they will have limited effect at best. because of the the law we have against what we refer to as a pos sit. the military cannot engage in domestic law enforcement. that includes arrests on the boarder. so when we send troops, active duty, guard, reserve, under federal control to the border, they can only serve in support roles. they can't engage in direct law enforcement. they are not standing on the rio grand with rifles. >> the white house refused to say today whether they would try to suspend habous corpus to allow them to do more. >> we have done this before. i have seen this movie before. and when you send the military to the southern border, they serve in support roles. >> when you say we have done this before, do you mean president obama did? >> during the obama years, yes,
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right. the real answer to this problem is address the underlying push factors in guatemala, honduras and el salvador. i spent probably hundreds of hours talking to migrants at the border. i asked, why did you come here? did you hear our messages about you will be returned. did you hear the messages about the digangers of the journey. yes, yes, yes, or maybe not. but if i stayed, the gangs were going to kill me. >> i had no choice. >> or the mother f we stayed, the gangs were going to make my son join their ranks or he was going to die. so they make the very basic human calculation to flee a burning building. so as long as the conditions in those central american countries exist as they are -- >> what can america do to make those conditions better? what can we do beyond -- we
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started with congress appropriating money to invest in dealing with the poverty and violence in those three countries. it was $750 million. the number has been going down in the two successive years. it needs to go in the different direction. as long as these circumstances exist, these push factors are always more compelling than any level of border security. >> there are those who will point out the split screen here, which is the president sending troops to the border to deal with a caravan that hasn't proven to be violent because there might be middle easterners in there. the president so far just offering words and prayers and condolences for 11 people who were actually killed in a synagogue here on saturday. >> right, so transition to the next subject. first, there is always an underlying continuing concern about what we refer to as
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special interest ail lens. those who would cross the border who may be suspected terrorists. and in 2016 i launched a group that would focus specifically on this issue at homeland security. but that's not new. there's no particular reason to believe that this caravan would consistent of such people. so i object to fanning the flames, pandering to fears about the possibility that the caravan could consist of people from the middle east as has been thrown out there. for the most part, these are women and children and families coming from central america. they are decembsperate. as you point out, we have a problem with hatred, domestic extremism in this country. already within our borders. i believe that in addition to traditional law enforcement, the fbi does excellent work in this
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area. in addition to traditional law enforcement, we have to continue to encourage the public to be vigilant. if you see something, say something. it's more than a slogan. public awareness and vigilance does make a difference. and programs that will focus on curbing trends towards violence at the local level. >> is it more accepted in. our government that extremists here in the states that are home grown, not middle eastern are just going to happen and that's what you have to deal with. there are crazy people and you have to deal with it. but if it's a middle eastern extremist or coming over the borders, there seems to be a different response. >> i don't accept that dichotomy. the threat exists among domestic extremists as well as what we refer to as terrorist-inspired extremism from overseas.
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we began funding these local organizations to counter violent extremism late in the obama presidency. and we wanted to fund groups that would address domestic extremism. groups like life after hate, for example. those who were leave iing and m fear is that the current administration is not dealing with it in the same way to the saim extent. >> if people end up dead, what is the difference? >> well, you're correct. in fact, when people end up dead because of an active shooter or mass shooting, that's not labeled terrorism. the trauma is the same. the effect is the same. the weapon is the same. so my view, we need a terminology and a level of seriousness to address all of it. las vegas, charlottesville,
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pittsburgh, sutherland springs, it will go on and on as long as we fail to address seriously frankly meaningful, responsible gun safety measures consistent with the second amendment as well as vigilance, awareness and doing basic things for public safety. >> jeh johnson, thank you for coming in. ahead, president trump on the campaign trail is packing his schedule full ahead of election day. i needed legal advice for my shop.
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meet the midterms. president trump is hitting the road for a string of rallies before election day. on the schedule right now is a wednesday rally in fort myers, florida. thursday in columbia, missouri. and saturday in pensacola. officials tell nbc news that the president will make stops in indiana, ohio, montana, georgia and tennessee bringing the number of rallies between now and election day to roughly ten with the possibility of more. the calculous in the white house seems to be to keep president trump where his popularity can galvanize a large republican base and keep him away from big cities where he could potentially turn off suburban voters. we'll be right back with more mtp daily, right after this. >> tech: at safelite autoglass,
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welcome back. time now for "the lid." our panel is back. welcome. if talking about what happened in the past week, between the mail bombs, the pittsburgh shooting, what happened in kentucky, is that going to change the way anybody votes, or is this just a time where voters are going out and they say to themselves, i can't afford to think about that stuff, i'm more concerned about education, and health care, and the economy, et cetera? >> there's so many questions here, katie. the big question here is whether president trump ultimately at the end oh of the day is better at mobilizing republicans or better at mobilizing democrats. in other words, does the electorate look like it does in mast midterms, older, whiter, married, or does he mobilize latinos, african-americans.
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this issue of the caravan, if hispanics show up, that's very good for democrats in places like arizona, nevada, florida. i wish i had an answer to this. the truth is, there's just an enormous amount of uncertainty how this shakes out. >> should this be used for political purposes? both sides are. look at democrats, or they could be using it. democrats and republicans. is this something that's effective to bring up at rallies? >> i think this close to a midterm, when you have a tragedy like this, it's kind of inevitable it's going to be used for political purposes. interestingly, what i think was her first briefing in three weeks today, white house press secretary sarah sanders said that despite the tragedy, president trump is not going to stop what she called drawing contrasts, which means talking about his opponents like crooked hillary, who by the way is not on the ballot.
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and responding to chants of "lock her up." so i think we're going to see more of the same, that we're in a base mobilization mode, and it's either going to mobilize the president's base, the democratic base, or both of them. >> david? >> yeah, you know, it's so tough to predict. but i'm going to go out on a limb and do a little bit of predicting. i'm going to say that in system of the red states where the senate elections are so key and pivotal, the kavanaugh effect is still in operation. there's still going to be a stronger republican turnout in part because of the intensity of the fight over brett kavanaugh. where i'm very interested in seeing is in these suburban districts, where there are more highly educated voters, who have been wavering in some of their republican commitments, what is going to be the effect of the argument over, for example, the caravan, what is going to be the effect over -- of these recent horrible events?
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and that's something where i think you might begin to see a little bit less republican energy, if there is a sense that trump is just not up for the task of being a uniting commander in chief, being a uniting head of state. so i think in the deep red states that democrats still remain in trouble in the senate, and then in the swing districts, the momentum may swing back a little bit toward the democrats. >> i wonder if we look at women specifically, one of the top issues is generally national security. and does this -- do these events of the past week fall into the national security umbrella the way they have in the past? >> katie, i think the cake is pretty much baked for college educated women, particularly there are many things that have turned them away from the president. in part, his behavior and his rhetoric, as well as his policies and the issue of health care keeps coming up over and over again in the conversations i have with voters.
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that does bode well with democrats in the house, because there are many districts that will turn on college educated women, and they have made a break from the republicans in light of this. overall, the country feels like a political pressure cooker right now. as i mentioned, there's a lot of uncertainty which way this breaks out. >> we'll know on tuesday. thank you very much. ahead, finding the light in the darkness. ♪ it's a lot easier to make decisions when you know what comes next. if you move your old 401(k) to a fidelity ira, we make sure you're in the loop at every step
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on the wall of the pittsburgh synagogue are two hebrew phrases. the first translates to tree of life. the second translates to light of joy. the light in squirrel hill has been anything but joyful since saturday morning. the unyielding glare from police cars and ambulances. the glow of memorial candles for the 11 victims. on saturday night, jews in pittsburgh and around the world gathered for a service that marks the end of the sabbath and the beginning of a new week. one of the traditions is to light a candle made of several braided wicks. if you look closely, each individual candle twists and turns on its own path, eventually coming together as one, like a congregation. like a community. hopefully like a country. and so begins a new week for this pittsburgh synagogue and places far beyond.
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there are dark days ahead. lives to remember. a sanctuary to rebuild. but amidst all this grief, a light of joy still flickers. it is dim, but it is there, if you look closely. that's all for tonight. we'll be back tomorrow with more "mtp daily." "the beat with ari melber" starts right now. >> katie, thank you very much. we begin with the latest in these terrifying attacks that are on u.s. soil. the massacre saturday in pittsburgh believed to be the deadliest ever targeting jews in the united states. another suspicious package sent to cnn was intercepted today, similar to the 14 others found last week. today, we want to give you the latest on what the authorities are doing. the suspects in these cases were in court today, the system grinding on. suspect robert bowers in a wheelchair, he was woulded in that firefight.
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