his own truth. he's done this his whole career. trump tower is 58 stories tall, but he lists it as skate because he thinks it sounds better. in terms of suggesting the media is responsible, this is him once again taking the argument against him and flipping it on the other person. >> more big lies. too many to count. my thanks to jonathan swan, kimberly atkins, jonathan lemi e lemire, and elise jordan. i'm going to be at work. i'm going to be here. that does it for this hour. i'm nicolle wallace. "mtp daily" starts now. >> you got that right. the 96 hours. get ready. >> i'm going to watch it on my phone. >> get ready to get sedated. thank you, nicolle. happy friday. >> if it's friday, 96 hours to go. and i want to be sedated.

>> good evening. i'm chuck todd, not joey ramon here in miami, florida. four days to go, and we begin with a question of enormous importance for tuesday. does the president's rhetoric on immigrants save the senate for republicans or backfire. it feels like a day of rhetoric, who vowed to end birthright citizenship. he's sent 5,000 troops to the border and wants to send more. he paints democrats as complicit in murder and on and on. you're looking live at the president holding a rally in west virginia where he continues to push the immigration issue. >> democrats want to totally open the borders. they have the caravans. let them in. you want to let them in? does anybody want to let them in? i don't get it. i don't get it. think of it, you campaign on open borders and higher taxes. how the hell do you win that?

how do you win? the choice in this election could not be more simple. a republican congress means more jobs and less crime. a democrat congress means more crime and less jobs. that's pretty good. that's nice and simple. doesn't get simpler than that. >> well, this afternoon, we also heard the democratic response of sorts to the president's closing message. care of a former president, barack obama, right here in miami. >> in four days, in four days, florida, you can reject that kind of politics. in four days, you can be a check on that kind of behavior. in four days, you can choose a bigger, more prosperous, more generous vision of america.

an america where love and hope conquer hate. >> folks, there simply is no historical comparison when it comes to president trump's rhetoric about immigrants on the eve of a midterm election like this one, but you can't help but think of what happened in virginia last year when the republican nominee for governor at that time, ed gillespie, unsuccessfully ran a somewhat similar playbook at the end against democrat ralph northam. >> ms-13 is a menace. yet ralph northam voted in favor of sanctuary cities that let illegal immigrants back on the street. >> he increased the threat of ms-13. >> ralph northam, weak of ms-13, putting virginia families at risk. >> putting virginia families at risk. >> ralph northam's policies are dangerous. >> the result in that race, which was expected to be close because of supposedly that animation of the republican base on immigration, turned into a

nine-point runaway for the democrat. granted, virginia has been trending blue, and gillespie's establishment background made him a bad messenger for the hard line message, still, virginia shows you the backlash republicans could see next tuesday, particularly in the suburbs. northern virginia is encroaching all the way into richmond these days and you could see it in the suburban house districts because of the president. at the same time, could he fire up enough of his base in red states to save or expand the republican majority in the senate? that to me is what we're going to find out tuesday night. i'm joined by the dean of florida politics, we just made him so, marc caputo. we also have "washington post" white house reporter anne gearan who is no stranger to covering the trail, brad todd, among his clients is rick scott running for the u.s. senate in florida. and donna edwards is a former democratic congresswoman from maryland. welcome, all. no offense, i'm going to start here in miami with mr. caputo.

the immigration close seems to be an awkward close for anything here in florida. is it having any impact this sort of national conversation on immigration in these races? >> we don't know because it was kind of so late and so explosive. that speech i was at it in ft. myers that the president gave, he not only talked about the serious threat of immigration, but he said that if you let these folks in, they're bringing meth and fentanyl and americans are dying from it. it was, wow, pretty over the top. however, let's face it. he had really hard line immigration rhetoric in 2016, and the conventional wisdom is in immigrant heavy florida, that was going to cost the president, and he blew the doors off. >> that's what i'm curious about. there's some places it's going to be a problem. perhaps in a county like where we are, and you have multiple pous districts at play. but i think about what always, what was to me the example of 2016, pasco county, for instance. does the immigration rhetoric

help them re-engineer a turnout like they got in 2016 in places like that? >> i think the real question is, can you have the trump turnout without trump directly on the ballot? and to trump's credit or discredit if you dislike him, he's really trying to make sure this is a referendum on him and that he knows it. it usually is in a midterm a referendum on the president, but he's stuck his neck out there and made sure he's leaving it all on the field. >> brad todd, you're advising people running in states like florida, a microcosm of the country, redder states like montana and missouri, states with high suburban populations, states with low suburban populations. so tell me, this immigration close, is it basically it depends on where you have a client on whether it's helpful or not? >> well, you know, i think the immigration close is actually more of a metaphor, a spoke on the wheel. the real close that most candidates are using is don't les the democrats take control of the senate. most of the candidates are saying you remembered what

happened with the kavanaugh hearings, what it looks like when dianne feinstein, cory booker, and kamala harris were trying to run the show for a few days. didn't like it. most republican candidates are trying to use immigration and other issues to say as a proxy for do you really want the democrats in charge. the argument is a lot bigger than one issue. >> donna edwards, we're seeing some democrats in redder states like claire mccaskill and phil bredesen, putting up ads to say no no, we're going to be with the president on the border issue. how do you think this is closing, and what do you think it does to independent voters versus democratic base voters? >> well, i think in some places, obviously, places like missouri and tennessee, it's really important for democrats to say what we stand for, which is true. which is we want to protect our borders as well. but on the other hand, you look at states like arizona and nevada, where it seems to me that the president's message is having exactly the opposite impact. you can see the numbers closing

as well to the extent we know them, in a state like texas on this immigration question. so the president kind of reminds me of playing prevent defense. i never really think that works in football, and i don't think it works in politics. >> anne gearan, the white house seems to be -- when you look at that schedule, it does seem to be a senate turnout schedule. it is not -- or in the case obviously he's in georgia trying to help brian kemp, but it really seems to be designed for that not to do anything -- they almost seem to be writing off the house. while even though they won't say it publicly. >> right, chuck. they will not say publicly that they're writing off the house, but the president's travel schedule and the republican money direction tells you everything you need to know about that. but in addition to the senate strategy and where the president is going and the arguments he's making there, i think you put your finger on the georgia

governor's race, that's an important one. i think they're also looking to places where the president is looking ahead to 2020 and places where the state house is going to make a difference, like ohio. >> marc caputo, i have a lot of republicans saying you know what's going to save them on tuesday is what was in that jobs report today, this economy. is the economy -- where is it in the backdrop of this election,ast least here in florida? >> the president's approval and disapproval rating are about even. his rhetoric has certainly been extreme as of late, and yet his numbers really haven't moved that much since the 2016 election. so my guess is if there's one thing that's certainly buoying the president, especially in retiree rich florida, it's the fact the economy is really good for people who have 401(k)s, retirement plans and investments. >> sometimes it works better if it's a bad economy.

that's the conundrum the president is in. the good economy, people aren't as concerned about immigration. >> i wonder how much of what we attribute to donald trump is strategy. over and over again, it's like he's going to say what is on the top of his head. >> brad todd, there's another phenomenon i feel like we're trying to figure out here. in the last week of the 2016 campaign, it was the single most disciplined 11 days in donald trump's life. >> right. >> whether it was his twitter feed, he basically let the final 11 days be about hillary clinton. he stepped back. that's not the case this time. and there is this phenomenon, when the president forces himself as the top story all the time, his numbers go down. when he's overseas or letting other things be the top story, his numbers go up. are you seeing this funommonthis week? >> i would say one thing about the last week is both parties are focusing really in both chambers on one group of voters. a group of voters that don't always agree with everything the

president says or tweets, but generally agree with his policies and hope congress will implement them. that's the battleground of voters in almost every senate race. and so i think the president's got a tall order. he has to go and sell the record of achievement and sell how your 401(k) is better, your retirement plan is better, your tax bill will be a lot lower, you're feeling more secure. i'm dressing the security concerns you're caring about, and yet not make himself the top story. i think that's a tall order. i think frankly most republicans are glad to have him on the trail on the senate map. democrats would have loved to see barack obama work this hard in the midterms of his presidency. he never would have kept up this kind of a rally schedule to bring out the base, help dominate the news coverage in the states in the closing days. so i do think he has a balancing act to try to not make himself the story but make sure that his supporters who don't really like republicans that much, and there are significant slice of trumpers who don't like republicans that much, can transfer some of that affection to them.

>> donna edwards, how would you be appealing to the voter that doesn't like the president personally but likes some of his policies? >> well, i think that this is the reason that it's important listening to the close that oprah winfrey had in georgia and also the president today in miami. because they talked about aspiration and civility in a way that people understand. and i think some of these late comer voters are voters who are saying i like the policy, but all of this other stuff has to go. and that's why they're looking toward democrats and house districts, but also in some of these state-wide races. and you know, the more the president shows up, and the angrier he is and the more aggressive he is around issues like imgraze opens up the space for democrats to talk about things that matter to people. it's actually rather shocking that the president hasn't talked about the economy, about the jobs numbers today. and those things, but has stayed focused on this very divisive issue of immigration. >> anne gearan, when others go to the white house and say is there any way to channel him

here or channel him there, how does the white house handle that? >> channel him into other states? oh, they set their travel schedule weeks ago. and we really haven't seen it change much. the announcement about a week ago of where the rallies would be was exactly what we were expecting. just a little bit heavier. he's doing two and three a day there at the end, which we weren't entirely sure he was going to do, but he's going there the places we expected him to go to. i think just one quick point on immigration. you are really seeing a contrast now and i think a deliberate one in the proxy of the oprah for stacey abrams and obama for andrew gillum, where they're deliberately making a contrast

in tone and i believe the aspirational is the right word to put it. they wouldn't be making that same argument the same way if the president's rhetoric about caravans and immigration wasn't as hard in the other direction. >> you know, the piece of the swing voting electorate that we missed in 2016, i think, before the election and saw it better after the election were people that were negative on both candidates. they didn't like both trump and clinton. they broke very late for trump, almost in 2 to 1, and that was the difference, i think, in your michigans and wisconsins. look at our arizona poll. our pollsters put in who are the persuadables. about 10% of the electorate is persuadable. they're negative on the president, 24 points. they're negative on the democratic nominee by 18 points. they're negative on mcsally by 25 points, and they prefer a democratic congress by three points. marc caputo, that voter, that voter that doesn't like either party right now, that maybe thinks in the governor's race,

gillum is a little too liberal, desantis a little too conservative, are they going to vote? if they do, how? >> i think the old joke applies that what's in the middle of the road? road kill. i wonder if the folks are telling the truth to the pollster or if they're going to show up. >> is this a margin race? >> if you saw the speech today from president obama, and i was there, and if you saw the speech the other day from president trump in ft. myers and i was there, this is not offering middle of the road voters a whole hell of a lot. it is true in tone there is a sense from obama and gillum like hey, let's talk hope and change, but these are strong democratic liberal messages versus strong conservative republican messages. >> brad todd, the folks that are negative on both parties, do you think those will be the tipping points in some of these places? >> i think in florida, it gives rick scott a pretty good advantage. rick scott has been a governor who has not governed in a particularly idealogical manner. he's been a very -- >> i don't think a lot of people would agree with you on that

statement. >> he has bipartisan approval that you rarely see for a large state governor at the end of an eight-year term. i think that's a state where with the sort of more idealogical campaigns coming from gillum and desantis, you have seen a less idealogical campaign from him and he'll do well with independents on election day. >> let me give you the last word on that. the governor'serates has become more idealogical than the senate race. >> he's right. governor rick scott, especially compared to governor scott 2010 has been a leopard who changed his spots. >> that's a great way to put it. marc, i have to let you go. you guys are stuck for the hour with me. and we'll see you in a little bit. up next, president trump wants the final week of the campaign to be about immigration. it's sure to help in red state america. but latinos are listening too. could the president's rhetoric backfire among those voters? that's next. plaque psoriasis can be relentless. tremfya® is for adults with moderate to severe plaque psoriasis.

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candidates well like in west virginia or missouri, but what about states like florida, where 18% of voters in the last election were hispanic, or texas, where 24% of voters in 2016 were hispanic? candidate trump won both of those states two years ago, but will president trump's tougher language on immigration help or hurt republicans running for state-wide office now in those states? with me now is a familiar face to "meet the press" viewers, al car dennis, former chair of the republican party of florida. he may know a thing or two about the state of florida. good to see you. we were looking, the exit poll, charlie crist beat rick scott by 20 points among hispanics here in florida. that wasn't enough, if you were looking just for latino voters to put him over the top, but right now, andrew gillum leads by 11 over desantis according to a poll we had. bill nelson leads by 15 over rick scott. it seems as if, is this not

coalescing for democrats? where are latino voters going and what does this immigration rhetoric do to the vote? >> remember, florida has always been a bit different in terms of the hispanic vote because of the cuban american vote in south florida. it used to be two thirds who vote in florida, it's now a third. so now they're probably slightly more. puerto rican votes. so cubans are now one third. as a matter of fact, when they were two thirds, president bush, for example, got to 55%. >> shows you how things have changed. >> things have changed. >> what does this rhetoric do to the latino vote? it's interesting to me, we were talking about it earlier. numbers, if you look on the numbers of interest in the election, we have seen a surge among hispanics telling us they're highly interested in this election. marc caputo and i were talking off camera. the early voting is 12% hispanic, which is four points

ntd what the registration under is here in florida, indicating a lower turnout among hispanics in florida. what do you explain the disconnect, how would you explain it? >> look, it plays to the base. i don't know if the base needed a lot more for turnout purposes because this has become a tribal pro-trump, anti-trump campaign. and the mood of the electorate was already set. maybe there's a little bit more fire to your feet, but the mood is already there. this rhetoric, i think, it's more to the president's liking, what makes sense politically, and look, there's a big gap between where candidates want the president to go and where he wants to go. and so the white house has made sure that he has a full schedule, but it's not in areas that involve, you know, suburban moms and centrist voters and so forth. so frankly, i think it's counterproductive in the midwest. ft. myers and pensacola, two

republican strongholds in florida, but you give it a lot of coverage. i'm not sure he's helping either desantis or scott. >> if the latino turnout is down and doesn't match what we're seeing in our numbers, how would you explain that? >> well, look, latinos have been poked in the eye for two years. more than we ever have. >> you feel that way? you feel under siege by this president? >> i feel the anger, i feel the destruction, the divisiveness. as a republican, after four decades of involvement, i see the tent shrinking, and that hurts. so there's every reason for latinos to turn out and break numbers. they're not. >> you said something to me, you thought there was fear. what's the fear factor? >> look, there's fear in the hearts of latinos that this president wants to have them live under a police state, whether it's i.c.e., whether it's local law enforcement, whatever it is, and anything that has to do with the

governmental function, like going to vote, to many, it causes them a problem. if you're -- >> you think some are afraid to go to the polls and show their i.d., thinking they're going to -- >> somebody could question them coming out of the polls. in a lot of the homes, you may be a citizen and allowed to vote, but there may be somebody in your home who is not. so what do you want to be stopped for and be asked a lot of questions? right now, there's that mood afoot. i think quite a bit of it is real. some of it is perceived. but there's going to be a vote suppression in the latino community in this country on tuesday. you wait and see. >> you really think it's suppression? >> yes. >> you just attribute it to the rhetoric. >> yeah, you know, i don't know if it's intentional, but the rhetoric is causing it. >> how would you -- in a perfect world, how would you try to get the president to or let's say the democrats win the house. and somehow get a 50/50 tie in the senate. is there an immigration compromise to be had with a

president who is this defiant on the issue? >> it all depends whether he's going to run for re-election. you know, i'm 50/50 that he might not, depending on -- >> gut or just -- >> gut, depending on how the mueller investigation goes and how the economy is going, what the wear and tear is in the next two years. he's not a guy who likes to lose. he was very loose last time because he had done more than he thought he would by winning the nomination, but this time around, retiring as a sitting president becomes a lot more attractive than losing. so you know, that's the first part of your answer to your question. the second part is, where are we headed? i think the democrats have an 80% chance to win the house. you had a pretty interesting program this week. i think the republicans have an 80% to keep the senate. so i think we're going to have a split congress. which is ideal for the president to work out a deal. >> in florida, two of the

hottest races, closest races in the country. one's a governor's race, one's a senate race. do they both go the same direction? if they don't, who is the split ticket voter? is there a gillum/scott voter, a nelson/desantis voter? does that exist? >> what a great question. i'll start out with a following. i think if gillum wasn't surprising for democrats, i would be sitting here today telling you bill nelson would lose. >> interesting. >> i think nelson/scott race is a toss-up because gillum is on the ballot. >> so that indicates that you're sort of saying there's probably going to be a gillum/scott voter. >> you know, there's probably a 4% or 5% ticket split. otherwise, the polls i have seen and the real politics average would make sense. >> it's fascinating. in some ways idealogically, people are going what, but they have an interesting leadership. >> the reason scott has a chance is the economy has been good. >> that's what he's hoping is

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welcome back. we're just four days away from election day and we're right here in the key miami area battlegrounds. hillary clinton won republican congressman carlos curbelo's district by 16 points in 2016. not a misprint. 16. even as curbelo won by 12 points. but now his race has become one of the most competitive in the country. a recent poll showed his democratic challenger, up by a single point. 45/44. that's obviously well within the margin of error and what we call here a swing seat. curbelo has established himself as a centrist, trying to speak out against his party on issues like climate change and immigration. but he's voted for both of the republican tax reform proposals and the obamacare repeals which democrats are trying to turn into liabilities. will it be enough to turn the seat blue. we have had congressman curbelo

on the show for quite a bit, so now we're joined by the democrat trying to unseat him. welcome here. let me ask you this. you seem to have a different challenge than most democratic challengers against republican incumbents because you have a republican incumbent who has tried hard to distance himself from president trump. >> i think, of course, it was a challenge for me to actually bring forth the truth. he has been trying to portray himself as a moderate, but he truly is not. it's one of the reasons why i decided to run against him. when he took that vote to repeal the affordable care act, in a district where we have about 100,000 families who get their health care through the aca. 300,000 that are living with pre-existing conditions. that was a vote that showed me that he was not there to represent us. i was the associate dean at the fiu medical school. i have been working in health care and education for many years now. i know exactly what we need to do, and it's one of the main reasons why i decided to run. >> so how do you answer the

question, when a group like every town, the every town, what is it, for gun safety, which is a group that has been mostly endorsing democrats, endorsed him on this. what do you say to that? see, he's a moderate, a centrist, he has a democratic-leaning group supported by the michael bloombergs of the world helping him. >> let me answer that in two parts. first, the moms demand action, which is part of every town also has endorsed me, and it's a very personal issue for me. i think the reason why we have seen inaction is because we haven't seen any sort of political courage or will to do anything. i can tell you that, you know, i'm running for people like romania dukes, regina talbert, who have lost their kids to gun violence. for me, i can't imagine as a mom what it would be like to lose your child. and we have nee more time to wait. i can tell you that no one is ever going to wonder where i stand when it relates to gun reform. and i'm going to be very strong on not just passing universal

background checks but also banning military style weapons. there's no reason why we should have weapons of war in our communities. and in my district, chuck, i don't know if you know this, but we have some of the highest rates of gun violence for kids under the age of 18. so yes, you know, that happened, but i also want to remind everyone that i was endorsed by the miami herald because they realize i'm someone who has been working in this community for 20 years. i have gotten the endorsement of all of the labor unions, the teachers are with me, which for me, it always shows that i'm going to be crossing that line with them, helping me out and canvassing. >> you have run for office in dade county before. it is interesting to me, the three sort of best known republican members of congress here, one is retiring, and you have mario diaz bulard and carlos curbelo. for years, none of them got challenged. is the county changing, some of the politics changing all because of president trump?

>> i haven't served in office. i did run in 2016, but i ran before trump got elected. the reason why i was running initially is because we have a lot of problems in this community. i do think that the demographics of miami-dade county are changing. we have a very diverse district, not just in mine, but also in my neighboring districts, 25 and 27. i think that people have been very frustrated with the way that washington politicians have been acting, including some of the other districts as well. but the excitement is there. i see it. i'm the only latina running for congress as a democrat in the entire state of florida, so there's a lot of excitement in my community. isn't that crazy? >> kind of surprising. >> i'm the only latina. i'm excited to hopefully get everyone's support and i can represent that demographic as well. >> let me ask you this. when the president's immigration rhetoric, you know, it's interesting. it feels like it just doesn't fit here in miami. miami republicans don't usually talk that way, anyway.

how does that play here and does it? >> i can tell you that a lot of people have come out to tell me that they're concerned. you know, the rhetoric that divisive and hateful rhetoric against immigrants, me being an immigrant myself, is very concerning. and people that are -- i have been all over the voting sites, and they have been telling me, debb babie y have never voted democrat all the way down and we need to change the direction of this country. i think that's going to happen on november 6th. >> do you -- have things changed since andrew gillum became the top of the ticket down here? >> there is an energy i haven't seen here in a while. he definitely is very inspirational. i mean, his story is similar to mine. he comes from a working class family. he's the first one that went to college. but he talks about issues that we all care about. protecting access to health care, making sure that we protect people with pre-existing conditions, passing commonsense gun reform laws. working with scientists so that

we can actually bring action to protect our environment and deal with the impacts of climate change. i think that's part of the reason also why he's bringing so much energy here in miami-dade. >> if you win and you're running for re-election two years from now, what is the one accomplishment you can say you hope you can be able to say i made a promise, and i kept it. what is the one thing, i'm sure there's a lot. >> can i have two? >> i hear you. >> women, we can multitask. we can do a couple things. definitely expand access to health care. i have some ideas from the work i have done at fiu at the medical school. i think we can expand and reduce costs fairly quickly and bring, you know, build healthier communities. and ban military style weapons. >> is there anything with the president that you agree with him on? >> that's a tough question, chuck. look. this is what i'll say. i am willing to talk with him or anyone that wants to expand access to health care, pass

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welcome back. tonight on meet the midterms, embattled iowa republican congressman steve king is out with his first tv ad of the campaign, just four days before election day. it's a spot that managed to be glossy and defiant at the same time. >> i know most of you agree our country is slipping away. well, i think it's worth fighting for. no matter whose toes have to be stepped on to make it right. >> well, that ad looks familiar, it is identical to one king ran in 2014. the ad comes after king was publicly rebuked by the head of the republicans campaign arm who condemned king's racial comments and behavior, and he got heated when he was asked about his ties to white nationalist groups in europe. >> this is over if he keeps talking. this is over if you don't stop talking. i'm leaving. >> i think that is an answer. >> stop it. you're done.

>> king's democratic opponent, j.d. shutten, says he raised more than $650,000 on tuesday and wednesday alone. boy, steve stivers, that's a gift for the democrats. a major windfall for a house election, but it may be too late to use the money with just four days remaining. we'll find out tuesday if congressman king gets to keep his job. we'll be back right after this. . that's why there's otezla. otezla is not a cream. it's a pill that treats moderate to severe plaque psoriasis differently. with otezla,75% clearer skin is achievable. don't use if you're allergic to otezla. it may cause severe diarrhea, nausea, or vomiting. otezla is associated with an increased risk of depression. tell your doctor if you have a history of depression or suicidal thoughts, or if these feelings develop. some people taking otezla reported weight loss. your doctor should monitor your weight and may stop treatment. upper respiratory tract infection and headache may occur.

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>> as a candidate, it's never too little too late, but there are ways to spend at least some of that money on making sure you get your voters out. you know, driving people to the polls, all the things you may not have been able to pay for or pay for out of pocket in these last 96 hours. and so i would rather be in scholten's position, and let me say about steve king. i don't think he deserves to be in the united states congress. serving the people of the united states. and i do know steve king. but i think his time is up. i guess we're going to see on tuesday whether that's true. >> anne gearan, it was a pretty -- you know, it's interesting now to see the nrcc chief did it on his own. nrcc said no, he's speaking for the committee as well. you have seen some go on there, but not all of the party has jumped on the anti-steve king bandwagon. ted cruz, steve king let it be known that ted cruz called him personally to reach out. the cruz campaign said he was calling as a personal friend. steve king was the co-chair of his presidential campaign in

iowa. is this going to have some sort of fractures impact on the white house shop, particularly if president trump decides to endorse king or re-endorse him?t trump endorses king? >> i will say re-endorse. the white house and national republicans appear to be holding their breath until tuesday. king seems safe, but certainly the number of times that he seems to have endangered himself in the last two weeks does have republicans concerned, assuming he is reelected, i don't expect him to have quite as many friends as he had before. >> brad todd, better for the party to have steve king in or out? >> i was thinking i can't believe the democrats aren't sending money to steve king to keep him in office instead of sending money to his opponent he can't use. does him more good except on the

floor when he votes for speaker. the head of the nrcc made it clear the republican leadership is not supporting steve king, not spending a nickel to reelect steve king. at some point you end up out of mulligans. i think steve king is out of mulligan's. may win re-election tuesday anyway. and perhaps it will be his last election. >> very interesting. let me shift toward the last minute moves, last minute stuff. mark caputo, talk about the early vote. you're cautious in politico saying everybody wants to read a million things into early vote, more are voting early. i think the unknown question in florida, unaffiliated voters, what do they do. that's probably the biggest unknown. >> you have polling that shows that no party affiliation voters, independent voters are breaking democrat from 8 to 12 to 15 points in some polls. but then we have the actual

early vote returns. about 18% of share of vote currently. if you look at the demographics of the npa voters, they look more like republican voters, that is the republican party strength, older white voters. people showing up in administrators that are npa are older white voters. all of the talk with npas and generally if young people will win. young people haven't gotten a message if you want to win, you have to show up. they're casting less than 10% of the ballots. >> put your old state department hat on a second, i didn't want to let the hour going without talking about iran sanctions. i have to put up what the president tweeted, sanctions come midnight, november 4th. and they sort of have a movie poster for it called sanctions are coming, november, in the "game of thrones" logo and message. are we marketing diplomatic

decisions? it seemed like an odd thing. >> you're not the only one to observe that it was sort of an odd way to announce the reposition of banking sanctions, but, you know, i actually really liked the hbo response. this was clearly a rip-off of the "game of thrones" type face, and message and everything. winter is coming. and hbo tweeted how do you say trademark misuse? >> his voters eat this up. part wwe sometimes. how would you explain it to the layman. >> i would say for years i heard pun tights and commentators complain they're not engaging voters disenchanted with politics. can't fault donald trump for that. turnout will be high for the midterm. mark alluded to that.

florida had 4 million votes cast. my home county in tennessee had as many early votes cast as entirely in the last midterm election. turnout is high. voters are paying more attention to politics than they have before in an election like this. part of that is because donald trump understands pop culture and never stops. like him or don't like him, he never stops engaging his audience. >> is there something to be learned by democrats on how to sell some policies? >> i think there's a lesson to be learned about fun. >> you know, that's never been democrat strong suit. what our strong suit is is in the last several days really just turning out the vote. i think that's why you saw obama on the trail. that's why you saw oprah. it is about turnout. it isn't about persuading people, it is about getting voters, reluctant voters, at times to the polls. >> my favorite song now is joey ramone, 96 hours ago, i want to be sedated.

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in case you missed it, there's an election on tuesday. all of the big politicos are

talking vote for don james in michigan. problem is no don james is running. is he the former coach? there's john james on the republican ticket. and kellyanne conway calling on michiganders to vote for bill shuster for governor. but there's not one. there's bill schuette running for the top job. both of these are mistakes, they corrected the tweets. trust me. i can missay a name as well. these names are out there now. don james for senate, bill shuster for governor. might be what michigan needs. we are trying to track them down, let them know they have been endorsed by big names. mtp called every one in the state we could find, so far, nobody has gotten back to say

they're in. where are my jameses and shusters. politics isn't a job, it is a calling. judging by where michigan republicans are, some might be ready for different folks to go to the top of the ticket anyway. that's all for tonight. we'll be back mormon with mtp daily. and if sunday, meet the press. "the beat with ari melber" starts now. we begin with big election news. a november surprise from tudona trump's fixer, michael cohen, arguing his former boss, donald trump, is quote racist. if this seems like a loud perfectly timed attack almost trumpian, he was executing trump tactics. he was saying he is his pr guy. tonight, trump is being trumped on pr, using a classic media maneuver, devastating leak at a devastatin