democrats' plan to destroy health care includes raiding medicare to fund benefits for illegal immigrants. by the way, they will shut down. if the midterms for some reason don't do well for republicans, i think you're all going to lose a lot of money. >> they want to take away your good health care and essentially use socialism to turn america into venezuela. >> well, good morning. this is "up." i'm david gura. three days from the midterm election, watching as president trump throws everything at the

wall to see what sticks. we are here every saturday and sunday from 8:00 to 10:00 eastern time. with me now, chris tteen quinn, kimberly and steve kornacki. president trump has distilled it to this. here he is in huntington, west virginia, making what is his closing pitch. >> a blue wave equals a crime wave. a red wave equals jobs and safety. >> on the tides, president president clearly believing fear mongering is a strategy. but david graham wrote this week, with a few days left before the election, there is an aroma of panic emanating from the white house. president trump seems to be trying everything he can to seize control of the new cycle and to appeal to base voters.

that is where i want to start this morning, will it work? you've listened to the rhetoric. you've looked at the tides, the red wave and the blue wave. what do you make of what the president is focussing on here in these last few days? >> well, first, before we talk about the politics of it, it's hateful and it's disgusting and it's completely un-american rhetoric from anyone else, nonetheless the president of the united states. and i know everyone is willing to grade him on a curve and oh, trump is trump. it's not okay. it's not okay to call people criminals and vial human beings and stoke that fear and misinformation about people who are fleeing terrible violence in their own country. now, from a political perspective, look, this is going to gin up his base. that 30% of americans who god knows why are for him come hell or high water. they will be extra energized to go. that said, i don't think the trend we're seeing of young voters helps him. i don't think the trend we saw

in the primaries of many, many more democrats voting than republicans in the primary response to this and we're seeing a higher number of women voting in the early voting states. none of that seems to me to indicate his hate-filled rhetoric is working. >> steve, she calls it dangerous and hateful. we talk about the base. the president is keenly focused on the base. he's traveling to seven cities here in the days leading up to the election to focus on the base. what should we make of that? his comprehension of how important the base is versus the reality as we approach the tuesday the's election. >> the single biggest shift this fall in terms of expectations for election day happen in early to mid october. some people say this was the kavanaugh effect. other people say it was inevitable. but what it was was something that had been true all year on this question of enthusiasm. democrats all year enjoyed a double digit advantage in our

polling as recently as around labor day week put their advantage at 11 points unenthusiasm among republicans. this happened elsewhere. this made the dynamic of 2018 different than the past midterm waves we've seen. the party that has had a big day has had that double digit advantage when it comes to enthusiasm. so in the middle of october, that closed to four points and created more uncertainty. we have a new poll coming out this sunday from nbc -- >> do tell. >> but that is my single -- and i haven't seen it yet so i don't know the results. but that's what i'm looking for. is it the same, has it gotten tighter, has it expanded or receded? in terms of the rhetoric here, he clearly has an eye on that number. there's a question, is this approach going to speak to the entire republican base or is there a component of that republican base that's more reluctant and turned off by

this. >> i'm struck by how long it took to get to this point. there's discipline and simplicity in what the president is saying here. but back to 2016, he was making pretty much the same arguments. he tried a bunch of things and ended up here. what is your sense of why it took so long for him to get to this point, to make immigration the boogeyman once again? >> yeah. i think he believes he was constantly in campaign mode. and he lives in the 2016 campaign. it's a warm climate for him. >> and i think he believes that once again the same factors that helped propel him to a victory in 2016 will help him now. so we see him doubling and tripling down on it. then he was calling for a muslim ban. now it's everybody, it's the mexicans, it's central americans, it's muslims, it's everyone. really thinking that is going to gin up the same fear that helped propel him to a victory this time around. a lot of things are different. midterm elections are inherently

different. hillary clinton is not on the ballot. you have so many differents right now. we see a mobilization, the mobilization of young people and others that you did not see in 2016. i think everybody will be looking at this poll tomorrow to see how different it is playing out. >> you know, i think we're assigning a lot of logic to the president's thinking. it seemed like towards the beginning of these elections, the republicans were holding the president back politely saying don't come. the truth is, i think it came up now because the president couldn't control himself any longer. they had him on the bits as long as they could and then they just needed to let him go and this is where he goes. >> let me ask you what we saw yesterday. president trump first spoke in miami and there was a moment after that rally when my colleague turned to someone who was there from parkland, florida, to get her reaction.

hands the mike to her and she says, i needed that. we have been looking for contrasts here over the course of this campaign. don't want to assign too much to president obama here. he did offer that explicitly when he was stumping. >> he offers hope. it's a different vision of america. barack obama is saying look at me, i am the representation of the american dream, multicultural, son of a muslim. he is a very subtle man. and based odd what barack hussein obama was saying even where a person like me can be elevated to the highest station, where a black woman can become the first black female governor, and you know what? we should take it. this is my hot take. are you ready for this? donald trump is racist. he's not racially tinged.

he's not racially motivated. he's not racially charged. he's not politically incorrect. he is racist. this is the feature. this is not the bug. and it goes back to the 70s. it goes back to the central park five controversy, it goes back to the berther controversy. you were saying he brings this out selectively. this has been consistent for three years. we've been following this. of color have been following this for many years. we've told many of our colleagues, take him literally and seriously. he is a white nationalist. i remember when he descended those stares what did he say? the mexicans are rap ists and criminals, but some of them are good people. is it a america in favor of white christian males or is it white christian males and everybody else who has a fair shot at the american dream? and that's what i think on obama and oprah represent.

downtown d donald trump is appealing to racial anxiety. that is the primary, not exclusive, but primary motivator for this base that is freaked out. i don't think it's enough this time. >> when you look at the ads that president trump's campaign put on out, there was the first ad featuring a mother of a daughter aspiring to be a classical violinist. then you had a dark ad. to me, it highlights the dissonance within the republican party. on the one hand, it's focused on the economy, focused on what's going well with the party. on the other hand, you have the issues emanating from the president. >> and i think you talk about the idea of what the trump base is and the blunt force appeals that he makes. but i think if you look at the formula in totality of what got him elected president in 2014.

it does require more than the base we speak about in those terms. number one is he did better in the suburbs in 2016 than the expectations. remember the famous line from chuck schumer is for every vote trump gets from blue collar whites in peb pennsylvania, we' getting here. the second component it of it, too, with democrats have a chance to take out scott walker. 13 counties in wisconsin, about one-fifth of the state. 13 counties in that state voted obama 2008, obama 2012. tammy baldwin 2012 and donald trump 2016. and these are heavily white counties, heavily working class. that needs to be a component republicans hang on to. they've been willing to vote democratic in the past. finally, california, nevada, arizona, a little bit of texas. one source of strength for

republicans that we don't talk about that much in some of these key congressional districts has been latino men where you look at polls and you're looking at republican candidates and some of these key house races getting 40% plus of latino men. that is another component of this i think republicans need on tuesday. >> the last question about the tension that must exit in washington. you have a president who is running the party as few president s have in a midterm election cycle. what is that tension like between the party apparatus and the president. as steve talks about what others should be talking on versus what the president is hitting on. >> i think it's not just washington. it's even on the ground in a lot of these races where people say i want to talk about the economy and i want to talk about all these things, say well, that's a national issue. i want to talk about what's important to these voters. there is this tension, i think, among leaders in the gop in washington. there's almost a sense of resignation that the president is going to do -- what he's going to do and we're just not going to talk about it any more.

we're going to talk about the supreme court. and they just go to their places as opposed to having to answer to the president. and certainly as opposed to standing up and saying, no, this isn't what america is about, no, i don't like it when the president says racist things. they sort of retreat, focus on their own message and let the president do what he does. >> speaking to those talking points until the push from twitter comes in. let's go back, up ahead, nbc has compile ed a list of the race toes watch on tuesday. steve is going to help us go through it as early numbers break records in districts across the country. get ready, steve. the meeting of the executive finance committee is now in session. and... adjourned. business loans for eligible card members up to fifty thousand dollars, decided in as little as 60 seconds. the powerful backing of american express. don't do business without it.

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the democrats, and it could happen, could happen. we're doing very well and we're doing really well in the senate, but could happen. and, you know what you do? my whole life, you know what i say? don't worry about it. i'll just figure it out. >> just figure it out. welcome back to "up." we are now just three days away from the midterm election and some key races are coming into focus. a new poll finds republican marsha blackburn and phil bredesen in a dead heat in tennessee dead locked at 44% apiece. steve kornacki is back with us. let's start there. i want to dig into a few more races that you are perhaps following more closely than

others. >> the dynamic is bredesen is polling better personally. also in these polls, they find they like president trump, he has a high approval rating there. so that is sort of the dynamic. if you're a democrat and you're looking at some scenario, you have to win to start one of three states. north dakota, heitkamp has to find a way to win. you need like eight of the other things to happen. every poll i've seen since labor day has had cruz ahead in that race. you look at tennessee, and you start to say, that's interesting. you see one here that is tied.

you've seen others that others had blackburn ahead by five last week. i suspect if you average them together, she has a chance of a few points. when you have a candidate on on the democratic side would is as personally popular as bredesen is, if i get a bit of a break, maybe tennessee is an interesting one. if if that happens, that could open up some possibilities for democrats. >> help us out. looking at the house, there are races we've-on-been focussing on because they've been in the news a ton. as you were compartmentalizing these races, what are the ones that you're paying the most attention to? >> i think the big story that i'm looking for out of the house and really out of the election on tuesday night is the question of the polarization and the tribalism that was revealed by the 2016 clinton/trump mat. has that changed at all? democrats are going to make gains in the house on tuesday. we know that. are the gains going to come primarily in districts that hillary clinton won in 2016 or

are the gains going to spill over in a big way into trump districts, into trump country? are we looking at the 2016 trump/clinton results just synching up with congress? if that happens, democrats could get the house. or are we looking at democrats winning back places in wisconsin, places in iowa, rural maine, places like that. i think that's the key question. how much give is this in that map that we saw in 2016? >> on the idea of the kan the calcification of that map, we are looking for at that going forward. >> absolutely. winning the majority back in the house is basically the next ten years. if we don't win this back this time, redistricting, no matter how many governors we win back is going to slip through our fingers and that will keep us trapped in this map or perhaps an even worse map next time around.

so it's really going to have a long-term effect beyond one election. and i think people on the democratic side who typically may not vote in a midterm are starting to see that and understand this is really one of those lifetime elections. you know, there's an interesting thing on the map from my perspective as a new yorker which is rarely are new york or new jersey so credit can kal, you know, in flipping the house or something like that. but we have a number of seats in new york and new jersey where the democrats we can win back those seats. >> pick up on that, steve, if you would. your sense of the importance of new york and new jersey. >> and i have a third, pennsylvania. in pennsylvania, they have that added component of the map was redrawn. the democrats said republicans gerrymandered it.

a court agreed. that means almost automatically there will be three flips to the democrats in pennsylvania, one flip to the republicans because of the way the map is redrawn. so democrats are going to get some advantage there it looks like. there are a number of other districts in pennsylvania potentially in play. one, bucks county, fitzpatrick, that will be one of the closest races. over to new jersey, there is one that is almost an automatic flip from republican to democrat. there are three others that the democrats have a chance, i think, in new jersey of getting. in new york, there are, like, ahead, if you want to give an expansive definition of the democratic target list in new york, you could be up to is it six or eight districts in new york. but new york has a lot of these districts that particularly when you get to western new york, upstate new york, even out on long island where donald trump improved on how mitt romney did by five to ten points and they were narrow trump victories in these congressional districts. does that recede at all? that's one of the questions. >> before you go, let had me ask you about the senate. and you mentioned tennessee,

north dakota, texas. these are permutations of what could happen. >> 6:00 p.m. eastern, most of indiana closes. very early poll closing time. you have a democrat trying to hang on in a state trump won by 20 points. there's a lot of early voting in indiana. so i suspect between 6:00 and 7:00, we'll see what the trend is. i don't know if we'll get a winner between 6:00 and 7:00, but is done hadnelley overperfo expectations? and then by 7:00, most of florida minus the panhandle, that closes. same question there. in those first two hours, two key races. >> i'll beg you to stay with us. up next, election enthusiasm m kim -- kicking into high gear.

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>> we are just a few days away from the midterms. how are you feeling and what do you think about this so-called blue wave? >> well, i think the blue wave is dead, frankly. and i think we're doing very well. >> welcome back to "up." president trump seeming optimistic as we head into the home stretch with now less than 72 hours before the polls open. looking at polls, looking at averages, we are trying to get a sense of what that tells us to expect this tuesday.

steve, you've sat where i sat before. we get these pastries week in and week out, yet i seem to be the only one consuming. what is your strategy here? >> it is reversal. >> it used to be the guests would do it and the host would be the one -- >> laughing. >> but the flavors, i have to say, the carrot and what is this? >> red velvet. >> what does that taste like? >> well, i'm from the south. >> we have boston cream, sprinkle. and i inherited chris's show when he did the show way back. i didn't even recognize the things. >> french pastries. >> diversity. >> they're there for you to eat. eat along with us. it's no trick, they are real. how do you process all this, steve? this is your business day in and day out. let's start with early voting. how good a metric is it?

we'll talk about polling and how that has changed. what does early voting say to you with what measure of caution do you look at them? >> it's the forbidden fruit of election analysis. you're looking at it and you're looking for some sort of indicator of what's going to happen on election day. you've got these numbers and you want to read into they will. people made that mistake in 2016, have made that mistake in every election since this has become a thing. there are a couple problems. here is what we can say. turnout is going to be extremely high for this midterm relative to past midterms. it's telling us that in these early vote results. it has been telling us that in every special election that we've seen for the last two years. the interest level is that high. i'll give you a perfect example of why i take the early vote skeptically. there was a special election in a congressional district of arizona earlier this year. they do mail-in voting in arizona. so ahead of time, you know the composition of the electorate from a partisan standpoint. the republican advantage in terms of who was casting ballots

in this race, you look at it and you say, republican blowout. the republican won, but only by five. there's all sorts of other issues there. nontraditional voter turnout is surging. there is another part of it, too. over 65 seems to be up higher. we don't know how that all balances out. so i take it very carefully. >> let's talk about polling here. christina, i'll start with you. as we look at all of these numbers, how are you wrestling with all of these numbers?

>> you have to take polling with a grain of salt. you can get stuck in twitter, but it's better and maybe i say this as an irish person to look at the negative. what is your negative on twitter? that tells you a lot about what's really happening out there. but it's much harder than just going by the polls which we used to live and die by. it's not that way any more. and i think we're seeing major pollsters changing how they're doing their polls to try to come up with more multi faceted numbers. >> how about you, as you're looking at all this? >> you would get along with south asian mothers looking at the negatives. no, look, nobody knows nothing. that's what they say in hollywood and d.c. when it comes to polling. but let me be the optimist for democrats. yes, with the youth voter turnout, young voters in

tennessee, i will give credit to tay swift. for georgia for her percentage, even though it might be a washout, you're seeing suburban voters come out, you're seeing the independents. you're seeing young voters enthused. and the fact that when it comes to the midterm elections, usually that base, the older, the white republican base always comes out. they're always motivated. now year seeing a lot -- you're of people who aren't as motivated coming out. because nobody knows nothing, except steve kornacki, but it seems if you look at the millennials, if you look at the blue wave base, if you look at women with kavanaugh, they have not forgotten. negative double digits when it came to the appraisal of kavanaugh plus the women's march, plus time's up, and you're seeing these swing voters who do not seem to be attracted to trump's native message, they might take that 23.

>> how much of this is mechanical? before we look forward, we have to look back. a lot of pollsters did that, very evaluated their methods. what are they saying about what they learned from 2016 and how that has changed the process? >> yeah. a lot of people, young people, the people in different parts of the country don't have landlines and don't have these old fashions wayed that people poll. in past years, i would get polled fairley frequently. i haven't been polled in nearly a decade. it's the way you reach people. that makes it very hard to gauge in how precipitously the black vote the turnout dropped by a huge amount. hillary clinton was not able to mobilize those folks the way barack obama did even though barack obama campaigned for her. so i think there will be a lot of surprises on tuesday. i think we need to be braced for that. but i think those are some of

the areas that we need to look at. young people, people of color, even in places like texas or florida where the latino vote makes up such a huge part of the electorate, but they can't seem to find ways in recent years to galvanize them and get them out to vote if this will be different. >> and, david, it's also the candidate themselves, right? you see stacey abrahams gab vallizes people. you see andrew gillum, passionate, eloquent, he's inspiring a lot of people. the youth there went from 13 to 8 to 5 and then steve said to 3 in a week. >> and in a way, they're rebuilding this from scratch. that wasn't there, necessarily, before these candidates and they are finding new ways to rebuild that. >> let's come back to you, steve. i'm going to wrap one of these up for you. i know you're busy, you need your sustenance ahead of this.

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welcome back to "up." the president's former personal attorney michael cohen is revealing insider information just days before the election. he told ""vanity fair"" that his former boss used racial information before his presidency. he said in the "vanity fair" quote i told trump that the rally looked vanilla on television. trump responded, that's because black people are too stupid to vote for me, end quote. michael cohen has pledged to cooperate with that investigation. the white house has not commented on "vanity fair's"

reporting on nbc news. let me ask you first of all about this happening. michael cohen is cooperating with robert mueller. he's working with the attorney general, with other prosecutors. how strange was it to see him quoted in the magazine the way he was? >> it's definitely strange. he shouldn't be talking while he's cooperating about his case. but this isn't really about his case. we all know it's connected because we assume that his cooperation on some level leads back to trump. and trump's close allies. but that's what i think is actually so powerful about cohen doing this now. because it doesn't help him, right? so many people look at cohen and say, you know, i don't believe him because he's motivated by self-interests. and, you know, there are things that would point in that direction and certainly prosecutors are going to assume that and they're going to double and triple check everything he says if they're going to rely on

anything. so talking right now to the press doesn't help cohenen, which is why it rings true to me because this is a man motivated by self-interests in large part. he sees what this president is doing. like so many people, like republicans who are crossing over if they hadn't already, now they are to say i'm voting democrat because i cannot stand the direction that this president is taking the country in. >> i want to ask you about michael cohen, the faux phoenix. michael cohenen who is now registered as a democrat, saying he's urging people to go out and vote. are you seen that kind of rebirth before, the person who is charged or associated with god knows what trying to come clean in the way that michael cohen is? >> absolutely. and i've seen it most often, frankly, in the organized crime role. and i know there have been a lot of comparisons to the mob. but this, i think, shows et once aga again because the mob, like

trump up until now have been based on this cult of personality, this loyalty of no matter what. and i think for cohen to cooperate and to get to the position where he could provide information about trump, you know, he really are needed to make that same kind of break, that soldiers and mafiosa make from their boss. and when they do that, i said this at the beginning when cohen got arrested and everyone was saying, he'll take a bullet for trump. and i said you know what? they all say they'll take a bullet until they won't. so this reminds me of that. and, again, i think it's a testament to how personal it is, but also how, you know, much we all, i think, see that, you know, there's so much about this election that is about trump, even though he's not on the ballot. >> kimberly, i want to get your reaction to this story. i picked it up and wondered how it advanced our sense of the president. you look back and what he

reportedly said in that cabinet meeting about s-hole countries. how does this give us a better or clearer picture of the president? >> not at all. this is all something we have heard before. none of this is a revelation. a lot of people read this and said of course he said these things. we've seen what he said about nfl protesters, about the rapists and criminals. >> goes back to your hot take from the beginning. >> everything. >> everything hay has said. and even after the s-hole comment which was reportedly initially denied but afterwards sarah huckabee sanders said, well, the president speaks plainly, sort of a walk back of the deny theal. we already know this is the language that he uses. he calls it, you know, the antidote to political correctness, but i think it's given us a clear picture on of exact le what he feels. i think he does use it politically, but just because he

uses it politically does not mean he's not a true believer in what he's saying. >> i agree with that. >> and let's not forget that the republicans who are in the room said he didn't say s-hole countries, he said s-house countries. apparently that makes a difference. name me a country where there's any black leader of a country or of a city that is not an s-hole place, right? and i did that hot take at the beginning. this is not a bug. this is a feature. it's still burning. it goes back to the 70s for racially discriminating against african-american tenants. the controversy, i go back to it. >> and he was dug in on. >> dug in on, took ads, gave them the death penalty. and even know, those poor men, those young teenagers were exonerated. they were convicted, falsely convicted, they served time and they were exonerated. and to this day, president trump

refuses to say there was a mistake and also i will say just look at what he said against black women. just this week. stacey abrams, she's unqualified. >> the yale law graduate. >> maxine waters, low iq and attacks her even after the megabomber has her on the list of people that he almost tried to assassinate. he still doubled down on her intelligence. >> an rdrew gillum. >> after a while, you have to believe maybe it's not racially tinged, maybe he's racist. >> and he shows it consistently. >> you invoked taylor swift. i'll bring up amarosa. but a huge facet of that book was her search for that tape and having him saying the "n" word on tape was going to change this story more. how does this change anything.? >> i have no doubt the president used and uses the "n" word, no doubt. i think it would be titillating to hear it on a tape, but it

doesn't change anything. you're right, the president is a racist. he shows us that all of the time. and it is so outrageously toe l horrible that we are shocked every time. thank god most of america has some human sensibility about ourselves. but, no, we know who and what he is. he shows us all the time. >> david, can i just -- >> please. >> i think we've all become sort of immune to him being a racist, even though people have danced around the word. what has happened in the past leading up to the midterm elections is he's talking about even more racist policies, right, about, you know, amending the 14th amendment, for example. and so i think that actually has triggered something in people, has shocked people more than anything. maybe he's a racist, but i'm not going to follow. i'm not going to vote for those policies. >> the policy. >> but it's shifted the republican party so far to the right where people who are

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would you consider a woman for your running mate and if so, who? >> well, i would consider. as chris can tell you, i through o -- threw out the name of a friend of mine, i said oprah winfrey. >> welcome to "up," i'm david gura. that was president trump back in 1999. it was a different era. this week oprah traveled to georgia to campaign for stacey abrams, who could become the nation's first black female governor. >> for anybody here who has an ancestor who didn't have the right to vote and you are choosing not to vote, whoever

you are in this state, in this country, you are dishonoring your family. >> last time we saw oprah endorse a political candidate, it was barack obama in 2007. researchers at northwestern university estimated that translated into 1 million votes. so much of this speech centered on that historical legacy, the importance of exercising that right to vote. i brought up this piece in "the washington post," i'll bring it up again, what's the good of clawing your way out of poverty in mississippi and becoming a beloved billionaire, if you don't try to nudge a fellow black woman into a governorship for the first time in u.s. history? >> it was a wonderful speech, one of the spot-on speeches were oprah, i believe, attempted and succeeded in tapping into people's minds that it's easy to forget or not think of regularly, how hard it was for

african-americans, for women, to vote in the united states. it's easy to take for granted. for something that isn't about stacey abrams, isn't about donald trump, but whether you have respect and love for your great-grandmother and great-great-grandmother, is brilliant. i can say as an irish american, guilt works. and she did it without finger-wagging. people still think, what does one vote matter? oprah put this in a historic, past to present to future perspective. >> particularly for young voters who don't have that sense of history, the perspective. a lot of people who are voting in this election weren't even alive on 9/11 or were just babies on 9/11. oprah has a very good way of pointing to, okay, this right that you have, this is how we got here. if you are a woman, if you're

like me, a woman of color, it took not one but two constitutional amendments and a hard fight that people gave, dedicated and gave their lives for. >> and died. >> and gave their lives for. that is making it something bigger than yourself. you see donald trump on a daily basis making the election about himself. you see oprah winfrey coming out and making the election about something bigger than any individual. >> and it has resonance because of what's happening in georgia right now. >> right, because they're trying to suppress the vote, basically. last time i was on the show, we spoke about how i was naively saying i had hope in the courts. the courts came through and voters are being allowed to vote. that's what matters. everybody said here, oprah, part of why that speech was so great was that it also reminded us that someone can use their bully pulpit to uplift people, to inspire people, not to put down

people and divide them. and, you know, god, that's something we've missed. >> last question, yes, there was the speech, there was also the door-knocking. i love this line about oprah's mystique, after someone does a double take after seeing her in person, she seems to get on with the business of being a normal person. you open the door, there she is canvassing, clipboard in hand. the videos that complemented this were fabulous. >> you get a vote and you get to vote. if oprah came to my house, i would first faint, then i would say, what do you want me to do, oprah? kemp has voter suppression and mike pence. pence said, i'm kind of a big deal. no, bro, you're not oprah. oprah is an institution unto herself. she says read this book, millions of women and people will read that book.

mike pence going to say to "hamilton" and people leave. can you imagine in georgia, anyone, oprah transcends race, ethnicity, gender, religion. her historical power of narrative, to inspire people to something greater, using the story of otis moss iii, and i know his grandson who is still a preacher, he walked 18 miles, she said. our ancestors walked 18 miles and were denied the right to vote. you have to get out and vote. i was inspired. >> christine quinn, aimer aboutly -- kimberly atkins, mimi rocah, thanks. coming up, joy sits down with nancy pelosi and georgia gubernatorial candidate stacey abra abrams. hundred roads named "park" in the u.s. it's america's most popular street name.

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