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proposition 11 "proposition 11 is a vote to protect patient safety." it ensures the closest ambulance remains on-call during paid breaks "so that they can respond immediately when needed." vote yes on 11. on of all things a sunday night at 9:00 p.m. eastern, good evening from our election headquarters on this sunday evening live from 30 rockefeller plaza here in new york. renamed as luck would have it, democracy plaza for these few days. and in less than 48 hours as the
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first polls close, the big number we will be watching, the big story line of tuesday night is 23. the number of seats standing between the democratic party and taking back control of the house, good evening to you all, brian williams, rachel maddow with you looming over all of it of course is the trump era and donald trump who is not on the ballot but has told his rally audiences in a way it's as if he is. this afternoon he was back at it, a rally in macon, georgia, where it happens to be we have some breaking news tonight. one of the most hotly contested races in the nation, the race for governor of georgia where the democrat stacy abrams is in a dead heat with the republican brian kemp with two days to go. this late in the game, kemp today accused georgia democrats of an attempted cyberattack on the state's voter registration system. democrats say it's nonsense. kemp's office is trying to cover up his own mismanagement they say of the state's voting
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system. we will have expert help this hour to sort out the competing claims. many of the most high-profile races in the country may come down to a battle of inches. that -- sorry, starting off with a bang there. that's why i'm not allowed to have a pencil on set any more, new rule that georgia governor's race has been a raging wildfire of an electoral fight. that reflects not just the character of the contest, but also its closeness, the final polling in the georgia governor's race, has it tied or within a couple of points there are a other governors' races where the final polling is tied or within a couple of points. true in florida and in iowa of all places. and the wisconsin governor's race, a poll last week didn't just have the candidates statistically tied. the poll found the exact same number of human beings pledging support for each candidate in a late-week poll. a 100% tie. in the marquee senate race in
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the great state of missouri one of the democratic incumbents whose seat democrats most want to take is claire mccaskill. she and josh halley are tied. the huge senate races in florida and arizona, those key races tied or within a couple of points. when this many important races in this many parts of the country are this close -- that might help explain why turnout numbers so far are through the roof. it also means that anybody telling you they know what's going to happen on tuesday night is probably taking you for a ride. in a lot of the most important races in the country, we really, truly do not know. >> joining us tonight here in the studio, you know them in short as our on-air family, the host of "deadline white house" former white house communications director under george w. bush nicole wallace, host of "hardball," chris matthews and pulitzer prize-winning columnist from the "washington post," eugene robinson. and the man you just saw there,
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steve kornacki at the big board tonight. steven -- >> here you guys are, sorry. it's so hard to see you over there. >> we know that you dropped in there unexpectedly. there's a new nbc news/"wall street journal" poll, the last national poll before tuesday, there's no national races of course in a congressional mid term race like this does a big national poll help us understand what's going to happen heading into tuesday night? >> it can help us, one of the questions we were asking is would there be a big late break one way or the other? let's take you through the headline numbers, the generic ballot, the basic question which party do you want to be in control? it's seven. democrats ahead by seven. because of gerrymandering, population distribution, democrats can't just win the popular vote for the house, they probably got to win it with a pad, seven points is about the number they've been talking about. that's a positive indicator for democrats. this, though, a wrinkle, in trump's approval rating in our
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poll, clocking in at 46%, as good as it's been for donald trump since he's been president. historically it's not a great number for president, for trump it's the high-water mark for him in his presidency. there's the issue of enthusiasm. earlier in this year our poll was finding a double-digit gap between the two parties, ask democrats now are they excited about the mid terms. 73% yes. republicans 72%. less enthusiasm outside the partisans, independents how they break looms large. a lot who seem undecided perhaps movable in the final days and a gigantic gender gap. we've seen this for a long time. could be bigger than ever. among men, republicans up seven, women in 18-point margin. there's so many races out there. here's the bottom line for the house, look at two tiers right here we know democrats are on offense. my question, are there gains primarily about places like this. suburbs of philadelphia, what
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you see here, look at these, they are republican districts that were won by hillary clinton. they already don't like trump do they start rejecting republicans? is that the story of the night? there's 25 of these distickets around the country. here's one outside chicago, you should go denver, kansas city, to southern california. or are we talking about something more expansive for democrats here? is it going to bleed into trump country? are they going to start winning in districts trump won by five points, by ten points birks more? are we going to be talking about the suburbs being on fire and delivering the house potentially to democrats maybe by a few seats? are we going to be talking about something much bigger than that, a 40-seat gain for democrats or more. i think the range of possibilities probably looks something like this. republicans barely hang on to the house, by about four seats on one end, all the way to the other end, democrats by 50. i think the difference between those two outcomes, those two polls, is only a couple of points. they are so close out there.
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you swing in a few points one way, you get to this end of the spectrum, you swing in a few points the other way, you're talking about a democratic tsunami. >> what i am swamped by there, is i am super surprised to see two number there is that i almost believe can't exist. 18-point gender gap in favor of the democrats, that's, democrats always have a gender gap. 18 points is massive. and alongside that, an enthusiasm gap that's disappeared. one-point enthusiasm gap in favor of the democrats. to see those two numbers alongside each other, i feel those can't possibly be telling the story of the same election. >> the other thing that's fascinating about that is we've had past mid terms where there's been high enthusiasm. in 2010, republican enthusiasm was at about the 70% mark in 2006 when democrats won back the house, democratic enthusiasm was at about the 70% mark. to have them both over 70%, when you put those early voting
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numbers up on the screen and say we're smashing records, when you think back to the special elections we've had the last two years. pennsylvania earlier this year. georgia last year. a few others, remember what you saw with turn-out right there. the idea that we're going to shatter all records here for mid-term turnout, for mid-term turnout and participation, when you see numbers like this among both parties, that's something we haven't seen, where they're both that excited at that level. >> nicole wallace, start us off. >> i've known and loved pollsters, but when they start going through the numbers it's like the grown-up voice on "charlie brown" you just hear wah, wah. voting in mid-terms is extra extra hard. people vote in mid terms out of love and hate. i think the democrats i think we saw the numbers, about half the country love donald trump.
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46%, about 40%, more hate him. i think what the democrats have going for them in big states is they have someone to love as much as they hate trump-ism, andoring it ushered in. the race baiting, xenophobia. racism. and all the things they hated about trump have been matched by candidates they love. if you watch the local coverage, andrew gillum is exciting people as much as trump is turning them off. and so i think in some of the races that we talked about watching, there are voters, on the democratic side that are as motivated by love for some of these candidates by hatred of trumpism. >> that may be functioning very differently in the two parties. one of the big things that's happening in the race is the president has decided to put himself absolutely centrally in the middle of every republican candidate's message so no republican is allowed to rise and be a star and be loved as much as any of these democratic challengers might be able to pull off in their races.
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>> he doesn't talk about them. he stands there and you can tell he's looking for the note that's got the guy's name on them. he's not there for them. he's there because he's made this entire mid term about him. >> chris matthews, the theory of love and hate must appeal to you. >> well, it does, our new numbers today, thanks to god we have great numbers. 68% of the american people are satisfied with the american economy. that's a huge number. only 38% say we're in the right direction. that is a 30-point differential. this is unusual it has something to do with the zeitgeist, the feeling of the country about itself. they don't like the feeling of the country right now. i think this is going to be a blowout against trump. i think democrats will pick up about 40 seats in the house. mainly around those areas that hillary should have won in the, and did do very well in. bucks county, delaware county. chester county into up into lehigh, allentown, out into lancaster, to erie. the areas i'm familiar with i think are going all democrat. i think we'll hear this early.
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i think it's the voice we would have gotten unfilled, except for the complication with hillary at the end, with the james comey thing. i think we're going to get the results we would have gotten in '16. i believe that somebody has to pay for "access hollywood." i think this country doesn't like a president that talks like that. they don't like it. they haven't found a way to say it yet. they're going to say it this time. it sunk in, that is him. that wasn't a bad day for him. they figured out this is donald trump. and i think women and evolved men, that's my son calls it, evolved men, evolved men, the first of the evolved men was alan ald an a alan ald an lda, 40 years ago, evolved men are going to vote against trump because he's the wrong man to be president. >> giving alan alda his due. >> not like a cro-magnon. >> in terms of basics, in you
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look at kornacki's enthusiasms numbers in 72, 73, you never know if the early vote something cannibalizing the election day vote. but let's assume there's something real there. when more people vote, that's usually good for democrats. i mean it usually is. because it just is. that's the way it works out. that's why democrats do better in presidential years. you know, the flip side is democrats have to do something, on tuesday, that they're not accustomed to doing. which is voting in a mid-term election. they don't always do that. another thought, the last few days, president trump has been going around, the country, doing these rallies and trying to push especially republican senate candidates, just over the top. in indiana for example. going to missouri i guess for a final rally.
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you know, florida, he's trying to push them over. democrats have somebody countering that, president obama and it's now there is a cognate to trump rallies. >> let's put some numbers on it let's go back to steve kornacki. on the issue of the senate race, gene is right, that the president has made himself not so much a campaigner for house candidates, but for senate candidates, for republican senate candidates in hess tight battles in indiana, arizona, missouri, tennessee, nevada. all these places. what are you seeing in terms of the senate prospects right now, steve? >> i think what the president can see there is the battleground for the senate is being waged primarily in trump states in some cases some very trump states. look at it this way. the democrats need to post a net gain of two seats to get senate control that sounds doable. then you start looking at what the battleground looks like. we got 11 states right here. you can see the overwhelming majority of these are trump states. and not just trump states, you are talking in some cases take
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north dakota for example, heidi heitkamp, democrat, trying to defend her seat in a state that trump carried by 36 points in 2016 if heidi heitkamp fails to do that. republicans are two away. how about tennessee a state trump won by 26 points in 2016. last tight they sent a democrat to the u.s. senate, al gore in 1990. the democratic candidate, phil brettson, very popular personally. but marsha black burn. there's a strong preference in the polls for having a republican in washington. you can think about texas. a state that trump won by nine points, not a great showing for a republican. but those three with nothing else if all of these others went to the cltic column and those three go republican. that's enough to keep the senate republicans, what democrats need to do. pick your favorite, north dakota, tennessee, texas, which one of these can you shake loose? is there going to be surge turnout in texas?
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maybe in the suburbs, maybe in heavily latino areas, can you do something with bretison in tennessee? you've got to knock it out. it's a tough path for republicans to hang on to the senate. to the house, it's an equally tough path for democrats on the senate side. >> it makes you see why because the president wants to be able to define a win. wants to be able to define his own participation as to contributing to a win. why he's been sticking with senate races in the terms of way he's been doing this campaigning. >> whether or not you've been paying close attention to the news today. we're here on a sunday, right? you still might have heard about this strange claim out of georgia. where the republican running for governor, who is in charge of running the election as georgia's secretary of state, today he said democrats tried to hack into the voter registration system in his state. we've been looking into this today and tonight, the facts of this story turn out to be approximately opposite. of what you have probably seen in the early headlines about this today. we've got expert help to sort
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we're back and now to the business of this hour, what passes for the breaking news this sunday night. all eyes on that neck-and-neck race for governor in georgia, where democrat stacy abrams is hitting back at her opponent,
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brian kemp who is accusing georgia democrats, without evidence we should quickly add, of hacking state voter registration files. abrams, this morning calling the move, an act of desperation. >> he's desperate to turn the conversation away from his failures, from his refusal to honor commitments and from the fact that he's part of the nationwide system of voter suppression that will not work in this election. because we're going to outwork him. we're going to outvote him and we're going to win. >> kemp, remember, happens to be georgia's secretary of state. he announced an investigation into the questionable allegations in a statement this morning and we quote, we open an investigation into the democratic party of georgia after receiving information from our legal team, about failed efforts to breach the online voter registration system and my voter page. we are working with our private sector vendors and investigators to review data logs. we have contacted our federal
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partners, and formally requested the federal bureau of investigation to investigate these possible cybercrimes. the secretary of state's office will release more information as it becomes available. joining us now is alex stamos, former head of security for facebook, now an msnbc cybersecurity analyst. alex, thanks very much for being with us, it's good to have you here. >> thanks, rachel. >> this was an explosive claim today. but we've been looking into it this afternoon and into this evening. from a distance it seems like what may have happened here is that kemp's office got notified that there were problems there were evident problems in terms of the security of the georgia voting system that he oversees. he responded to that notification by claiming that the democrats must have been trying to hack into the system. if they found all of those vulnerabilities. that's what we're sort of discerning from a distance. can you help us understand what actually happened here? >> that's right. there's a history here in
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georgia of independent third parties reporting possible vul s vulnerabilities to the secretary of state's office. in this case within hours of getting notification of a new vulnerability on their website, they came out with this press release, possibly blaming the democratic party. you know it's part of a tradition here of not taking these vulnerabilities seriously, and in this case, making a really reckless claim before that could possibly be any data to back it up. >> you said there's a history of third party groups notifying georgia about problems in their system. does georgia actually have worse problems than other states do in terms of their security? i know there have not only been notifications, there have been lawsuits by good government groups, do they have a problem in that state? >> i think they have a number of problems, georgia is only one of five states in the united states that does not have a paper back-up to their voting. this means if there's a direct attack against the voting infrastructure, we will not be able to recreate what happened in that state with any
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certainty. that's unacceptable with the level of risk our elections are facing these days. the second is there's been a history over the last two years of a number of groups coming to georgia and saying we've found vulnerabilities in your system and the way responsible organizations deal with this in 2018, is they say thank you for turning that over. we'll investigate it and they work to fix the flaw. instead, the secretary of state has continuously threatened those researchers, in this case, specifically pointing the finger to political opponents. without having any evidence to back it up. >> alex stamos, the former head of security for facebook, helpful to have you with us now, thank you very much for helping us to understand this. reports on the ground on this race in georgia. katie turr is on the ground in atlanta. joy reid spent the weekend following stacy abrams' campaign before traveling on to florida. she's with us from ft. lauderdale. katie, let's begin with you what kind of crowd what kind of event did you encounter in macon,
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georgia? >> the exact kind of event and crowd that i encountered in 2016. there were 12,000 people that showed up for donald trump and brian kemp today in macon, georgia. and the rally, although it was meant to rally up support for brian kemp and although brian kemp did speak, the the rally was more of a donald trump rally. he went through a lot of his old hits and hit some new ones as well. he did focus a little bit on stacy abrams. he said that she was radical, she was extreme. she was going to turn georgia into one big giant sanctuary city, it would become venezuela, he was trying to ginn ing tinge by scaring them what the state would look like if a democrat came into power. he called stacy abrams one of the most radical politicians that is out there. brian, i'll tell you i was at the obama rally on friday, with stacy abrams. and the tones were markedly
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different. democrats were talking a lot about health care. they were talking about how you got to go out there and vote. you got to honor your legacy and vote. john lewis took the stage and talked about how he spilled blood on a bridge in selma, how he's not asking voters to go out and spill blood. how he's just asking them to go out and vote because their ancestors fought for them to do so. quite different crowds, too. certainly different messages. >> joy reid, there's no excuse, no substitute for being down there. and living it and sampling it and feeling it. being in it. what have you noticed and noted since you've been down there. >> brian, i was in macon, georgia, yesterday, the same place that katie is now. we've been tracking each other across the american south. my experience in macon, following the stacy abramgs' campaign was exactly as katie said, it was exactly the opposite. the tone and message being delivered by stacy abrams, who
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by the way has a female running mate, there are two women running to be governor and lieutenant governor of this state. one black, one white. stacy abrams' mepg was hopeful. she was taking selfies with the crowd there was a sense of almost familial relationships with the people who are voting for her. they adore her. she absolutely has a charisma that maybe she learned from her parents, who were both methodist ministers, she had the crowd enraptured, a very diverse crowd, forecastly african-american, but not all african-american. what i have noticed in following her from macon, to atlanta. is that she has captured something kind of intangible. in georgians that i spoke with. and her message that has been very simple -- health care and education. that is resonated. every single person i spoke with, black, white, old, young, who is enamored of her, was enamored of her for those two reasons she will expand medicaid
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and improve education in georgia. that's what they care about. >> joy, i would like -- both you and katie and you on this. in terms of being in georgia and seeing the campaigns on the ground. not just in terms of what they're saying at the rallies, what were you able to see in terms of get out the voest. obviously it's got a different cast in georgia than this does in a lot of other high-profile races because there's been so much concern about potential voter suppression and brian kemp's dual-hatted role. administratoring voting as the secretary of state and also being at the top of the ticket. joy and katie what you're seeing about the mobilization of get out the vote efforts. >> i love to go to a diner, i feel like you get the real opinion of folks. i spoke to the manager of a diner in macon who said listen, black folks are energized, people are getting out to vote. but white voters are, too, and this particular person said to me, georgians down here love their guns and there are a lot of people who are uncomfortable with an african-american
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governor and they're getting out to vote, too. what you have is very motivated people on both signed of the equation and the question is which group is the most motivated. >> that's the question, i can tell you the lines for early voting have been long in most of the counties in this state. we keep hearing from voters who say that they waited in a long line. younger people, mother than i've seen in other states seem to be enthusiastic about this vote. they talk about how they can't complain about politics, if they don't participate in politics. a lot of them that i've spoken with have been stacy abrams fans. they're looking for somebody who can bridge the divide. there's a lot of concern about political partisanship out there. but again, it really depends on who you're talking to. brian kemp had a bus tour that went to all the counties in this state. he just wrapped it up yesterday. in gwinnett county and he got a big crowd out there as well so they're both focused on get out-the-vote efforts. with the allegations of voter
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suppression hanging over this state, if this is not a clear-cut winner, i can imagine there being a lot of controversy and a lot of questions about the outcome of this race come tuesday night or potentially wednesday morning or december 4th even if it goes to a run-off. >> the prospect of a run-off in georgia would have, would make georgia's governorship even more of a focus of national concern and interest as it is now. i got to ask you guys, looking at the georgia governor's race, do you think it possible that either one of them is going to hit 50%? or do you think we're going to end up in a run-off? >> this is a great race to test the turnout model. she's not running as a squishy moderate in a state that's pretty conservative. she's running as an unapologetic proud liberal woman and she's nev neck and neck with a conservative opponent. if anyone was going to borrow trump's claim that an election
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was rigged. the republican running against her is running an election that's outrageous. you miss normalcy. if these were normal times, might be able to pick up the phone and call the white house and say hey can you take a look, can you guys take a look at what's going on? you realize sort of how there's no referees any more in politics. >> one demographic that i'm looking at in that race is african-american women. next door in alabama, they in the special election, they elected doug jones 98% of the vote. they voted above their weight in the population, they're like 14% of the population and 17% of the electorate on special election day. if they do that again in georgia, she can, she can surpass 50%. >> it's interesting, we've been trying to watch, we've had big early vote numbers in so many states, georgia has big early vote numbers. we were able to get the gender split from a bunch of states that have had really big early vote numbers, georgia has a
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larger split in jender in terms of who has turned out to early vote than any other state we monitored in the country. 12 points women are with outvoting men in georgia. i don't know if it's republican women or white women or black women. >> thanks to katie tur and joy reid in our report from the ground. all of these close races add up to high stakes for this president. when we come back we'll look at the consequences for the white house, for this election. much more to come on a sunday night. please stay with us. coaching means making tough choices.
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and i know that sounds boring, but it's really important in terms of what happens next in the trump presidency. even when a party has only one house of congress. that can still have a really big impact. because once they're controlling that house of congress, they get to conduct oversight of the administration. they have subpoena power to help them do that. republicans appear to be super worried about that prospect. in the context of this being the administration in power right now in the white house. republicans recently circulated a spread sheet amongst themselves cataloging all the investigations they think democrats might pursue if the democrats take the house. the list had over 100 items on it. if democrats do flip the house, every committee will have a new chair, a democratic chair, who will quickly become a household name. the ways and means committee they're in charge of taxes. if that committee is chaired by a democrat next year, likely richie neal of massachusetts, that's the committhy that could demand trump's tax returns.
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the top democrat on the financial services committee is maxine waters, she's made multiple requests for information to deutsch bank about the bank's large loans to trump. trump's finances and possible ties to russia. if democrats win and she becomes chair next year, those requests could become subpoenas. judiciary committee would be led by new york's jerry nadler and judiciary deals are worth a lot more than the possibility of starting impeachment proceedings, they would take steps to protect robert mueller and the special counsel's investigation and they could subpoena trump's business records to see if trump has illegally accepted money from foreign governments. the chair of the house oversight committee would likely be the elijah cummings, these were about all sorts of scandals, trump's cabinet secretaries revoking security clearances, using private email for white house business. the president gutting plans for
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a new fbi building potentially to benefit his own hotel. all of these scandals that made headlines this year, but spark nod official investigation. in the republican-controlled house. that would change if democrats were in the house on tuesday night. but if democrats do win on tuesday night, trump's single biggest worry would probably be this man. congressman adam schiffer who would be expected to take over the intelligence committee. a position of serious authority. now congressman, who could soon be chairman, adam schiff joins us next.
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ing. if democrats emerge with control, the house they will inherit new and unilateral power to demand documents or testimony in a wide range of investigations, congressman adam schiff of california to name one as rachel was saying would suddenly have new tool force investigating the white house. from his perch as the new chair. the incoming chair of house intelligence. the question becomes how would democrats like adam schiff wield that new power? joining frus los angeles tonight is the top democrat on that committee. democratic congressman adam schiff. as a predicate before i allow my colleagues to jump in and join the questioning. i need a prediction on how you feel, because you have a stake in this. your party in the house of
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representatives is going to do on tuesday night. >> you know i feel very op mystic and i feel pretty confident about tuesday of course, that's not unlike how we felt two years ago, we all a bit superstitious about this but the candidates are doing so well, the quality of these candidates is like nothing i've ever seen. it's the largest most well-qualified group of democratic candidates who have ever run for the house, at least in the post watergate period and they're doing very well. it looks like the late breaking rulgts are breaking our way. and that tends to be the trend in election. they don't split down the middle. they usually break one way. and they certainly look like they're going to break in our favor. >> congressman schiff, it's nicole wallace, devin nunnunes,e republican chair of the house select committee speaks as a tool of the trump white house in terms of doing their bidding with the fbi and the justice department and the russia investigation, where do you
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start if you become the chairman of that committee? what is your first, second and third to do item? >> well i think we'll do on our committee, what we'll have to do as a caucus. we're going to have to prioritize, we're going to have to decide what are the most important issues to look at first. you know certainly there is constellation of issues around the russia investigation, which as you say our chairman was acting as essentially a trump lawyer on the intelligence committee that was doing the investigation. not only preventing us from bringing in witnesses that had relevant testimony, and acquiring important documents. but affirmatively going after the investigators, going after the justice department, the fbi, and doing what he could through his perch. which was not ig insignificant to interfere and obstruct an investigation that bob mueller was doing. obviously we're going to protect the mueller investigation, more than that we would like to provide the transcripts of the
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witness interviews to the special counsel. there are several witnesses we have concerns about potential perjury. others have evidence we think that -- >> can you elus who they are? who would you bring back that you've already had? >> one that certainly has come to light recently in terms of some of the public disclosures, if these emails that have been published from roger stone are accurate, those were documents that certainly would have been called for him to produce to our committee. there are other issues that have come up just within his testimony. but he's not alone. where we have substantial questions about their truthfulness, probably no one is in a better position to evaluate that than bob mueller. we would have republicans join us and provide those materials, they refused, they were willing to try to protect witnesses who have lied to our committee, as long as they were willing to protect the president and that's not how you conduct an investigation, that's how you conduct a sham of an
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investigation. >> congressman, can you get trump's tax returns as chairman of the committee in. >> logically, we could if it was relevant to issues for example, we've wanted to look at and have made efforts to look at the issue of whether the russians were laundering money through the trump organization in terms of the tax returns, probably the committee that has the most jurisdiction there is the ways and means committee and i think richie neal has said if he becomes the chairman of that committee -- do you have any idea whether the democratic caucus as a caucus would like to get trump's tax returns? as a group? would you all like to get it? >> listen, i think that any candidate for president should release their tax returns. one way of enforcing that norm and frankly we never thought this was a norm that would be broken. it has been by this president, one way to enforce that norm is to use the statutory power of congress to obtain a tax return for a presidential candidate who refuses to disclose it. this is particularly important
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where there are credible allegations that the president of the united states may have a financial conflict of interest that is driving u.s. policy. is our policy vis-a-vis russia driven by russian money in the trump organization? is our policy vis-a-vis saudi arabia and particularly qatar being driven by business interests with respect to the trump organization? the american people deserve answers to these questions. we deserve to know and indeed need to know whether the president is making decisions in our interests or in his family's financial interest. >> congressman adam schiff of california on tap to be the chairman of the intelligence committee if the democrats win the house on tuesday. congressman, thank you very much for your time tonight. appreciate having you here, sir. if you're planning your election night watch party for tuesday night there are a few things you should know about the timing of how things are going to go, when it's going to be exciting and when the big hints are going to come about how the night is going to turn out
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we are here to help. on tuesday night let's just get real here. when do you actually have to start watch jon karl like when will the first things happen that you actually care about that actually matter? and how late are we all going to have to stay up? let's start planning for that now and get specific. steve corona steve is at the big board. >> when the presents start arriving, i'll tell you. 6:00 p.m. eastern is the short answer. on the senate side, the polls close at -- tuesday -- did i say tomorrow. tuesday, 6:00 p.m. tuesday. i'm already speeding things up.
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indiana on tuesday night, most of the state closes. there will be a lot of early voting it looks like in indiana. joe donnelly trying to hang on and start getting a readout from indiana 6:00 p.m. on the house side, again, where democrats need to pick up 23 seats, what you see right here, we call this the big 66. we got 66 republican held districts right here where we think democrats have their best shot at getting pickups and the first one of those, the first one that's on the map comes on at 6:00, kentucky's 6th district, amy mcgrath here, former fighter pilot. had that viral ad trying to take on andy barr. this is a fascinating test here. this is lexington, kentucky, and its surroundings -- let me see. lexington, kentucky and in the rural area outside of it, the fascinating thing to watch, about 40% of the population in the lexington county, fayette county is they're going to be surge democratic turnout. also the rural areas. is the republican interesting
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going to be down at all and are the democrats able to make inroads in those rural trump areas? at 7:00 is when things will start to intensify and you will have in the 7:00 hour four key districts in virginia, the second, virginia beach/norfolk, the fifth including charlottesville and the tenth district right outside washington, d.c., four republican held seat, the democrats have a shot at picking up. we'll start getting returns at 7:00. also at 7:00 look at this in florida, all sorts of competitive potentially districts in florida and we'll start getting numbers from there and one more, georgia, so much talk about the georgia governor's race, the theory of the stacey abrams campaign, expand the electorate and bring first-time voters and getting a readout there and whether it bleeds over to key congressional districts. one to watch, if stacey abrams is having a big night, rob wo
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woodall could have a big night. >> 6:00 p.m. eastern time. >> did we answer that. >> you have to pay close attention because steve is saying we will know -- >> he's starting tomorrow night. >> the one thing -- the thing that does not bode for your circadian rhythms is for the first time. >> what about yours? i don't have any. i lost my in my 20s. so important races in california, but like every republican district in california the democrats are trying to flip so if we are down to final number -- steve, correct me if i'm wrong, if we're down to close numbers in terms of the democrats closing in on 23, california may be absolutely determinative. >> the 66 we think the democrats have the best shot at getting flip, california, 10, 25, 39, 45, 48, 49, 50, put those on the map. also include by the way there are a few in washington state
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where it's like california where there's that mail-in voting. california, it took a month after the 2012 election to get all the results counted and tallied from california so if we're ever in that situation where we're going district by district, these are -- yes, california, the west coast could be key and could be a while. >> so the bottom line in terms of sleeping and eating -- >> i got it. i got it. >> not just all night, all month apparently. >> stop it. stop. >> we'll need a stimulant or something. >> i'll need a caffeine drip. >> i'm being told we have to go to another break. >> we have to sleep. we have to start stockpiling sleep now. >> our friend, the presidential historian michael beschloss on his twitter feed just posted this, "the new york times," ten years ago tomorrow, very simple headline, obama. we're back with more right after this.
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we are back. time for our two-minute drill on football night in america. do have you a favorite race that you'll be watching come tuesday, nicolle wallace? >> having worked for a florida governor, i'm watching the florida governor's race and andrew gillum, i think, if you think that race and racism that's been ushered in with donald trump is one of the biggest problems facing this
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country andrew gillum's response to his opponent, ron desantis, he said the racists think you're a racist is a microcosm for the divide in this country. >> notre dame's own joe donnelly, his race in indiana which we reported, steve reported will be out at 6:00. if he wins it's a big night for the democrats. >> do you think he will? >> my -- i'm too caught up in that one. i want him to. >> you want him to? >> yeah. >> but you're not going -- >> i will predict he will. >> wow. >> i'm watching virginia 10. the suburbs of washington, barbara comstock, the republican, running against democrat jennifer wexton. every poll suggests that comstock is going to lose. it's not her district in this kind of year. if she is losing by a little we'll have a long evening and it will be close. losing by a lot, then democrats are going to do very well
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tonight -- tuesday night. >> that's going to do it for our preview coverage ahead of tuesday's midterm elections. >> think we're going to be make it? >> we'll need -- we're going to need -- >> hydration. >> yeah. >> vitamin. >> yeah. >> turkey -- >> well, you get to watch it all on tuesday night. we'll see you then. >> it's going to be fun and a long night and we'll spend the whole night with you guys. this sunday, closing arguments. president trump and the republicans focusing on immigration. >> republicans want strong borders, no drugs, no gangs, and no caravans. >> you mean the people of texas want to stop the caravan? >> secure our border, build the wall. >> while democrats talk about health care. >> you're going to have a governor who will work to expand medicaid. >> health care is on the ballot this year. >> and who we are as a nation. >> maybe most of all the ar

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