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we didn't previously know if it was night or morning. 5:00 a.m. on the east coast, 2:00 a.m. for our viewers out west. a mixed bag for democrats. they're sitting on a comfortable majority in the house. exceeding the seats the democrats needed to pick up. the president calling it a tremendous success one reason, the senate remains under republican control. and north dakota the democrat was lacking. and tennessee with a comfortable margin. marcia blackburn is the new senator elect of the state of tennessee. in nevada dean heller, the republican losing to democrat. in the state of indiana another
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incumbent goes down. joe donnelly losing to the brown. and ted cruz in the highest profile race of the night defeating o'rourke. o'rourke coming up just short. in the state of wisconsin tammy baldwin holds on to her seat. and in new jersey bob menendez winning by a comfortable margin despite some of his troubles in the state, he will be back in his seat. too close to call still this hour, arizona senate, 2,000 votes separate martha mcsally the republican from the democrat. and in florida the senate race too close to call. just over 38,000 votes there. trrs the republican with a slim margin over the incumbent democrat bill nelson. we've been keeping a close eye on the state of montana where it tester is trying to hold on to
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his seat. he trails right now as of 4,000 votes. a democratic take over wasn't completely unexpected. in house district 10 a lot of eyes on the state off virginia and another one, max rose winning the house district elect in parts of brooklyn. tlrs afghanistan veteran win inning an episut. former nfl player colin allred, the democrat unseating pete sessions who had been there for 11 terms in a big upset and a changing of the guard in the state of texas. let's talk about it now with president off the voter latino. and al sharpton. director off progressive programming for sirius xm radio. the pulitzer prize winning presidential biographer and
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historian and an msnbc contributor. and an msnbc political analyst in d.c. with us. let me start with our new arrivals. >> i think when we look at the fact that the democrats did take the house t does mean that they can move forward. they have to move in a balanced way. they can't over jump the runway where it plays into trump play thing victim, but they must hold him accountable and show their constituents that taking the house means something. so more than to find the balance. we didn't expect they would take the senate. very disappointed in florida with gillum losing and we don't know yet what's happening in georgia. and quoting as minister from the book of meacham, you have to wonder whether race played a factor but i'm very happy that amendment four that restores the
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voting rights for felons. because my brother got me involved. so i'm very happy that passed. that's 1.4 million that should have never been in that situation. so there's good and bad tonight. i don't think we aught to embellish it or den great it. >> boigt sides are taking credit for a victory. the democrats saying we can push back for the next two years and republicans saying we grabbed some senate seats. >> one of the things i think that changed last night is who is winning these elections. it's not just the traditional model of male leadership. what we saw last night was women responding to the election of donald trump, responding to what we've been seeing over the course of the last year #me too and women coming out sharing their stories.
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so last night we saw women stepping forward to run for office and standing together and winning. it's a new model of leadership in this country and i think that's a good thing. that's a sign of progress but it's a marathon, not a sprint. it's a mixed bag but there's a lot of bright spots to look for in terms off where democrats are going in the future. >> and it was women but young women. very young women who stepped up and becoming part of the process. >> enobody going to wait around to run for office. and they said if he can be president without any qualifications, i can run for my local government and move up the ladder. i think the pathway to leadership in the democratic party is looking bright. because you have a lot of names who are now going to inter into our congress.
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that's going to change the way the democratic caucus operates. you have unapologetic progressive leaders now as a part of the democratic coalition. >> i think what was very interesting is women on both sides of the political spectrum have become empowered and want to step in. when we talk about the year of the woman, i think it is real but i think it is not just progressives because a lot of of moderate and lot of conservative women said we have to have a sta standard and innered to the political arena and won. >> to turn on the television and see all these faces winning. >> and in the era of #me too where so many women have had to share and expose their stories the silver lining is they're able to fight back.
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voters listening saying we want to change the policies. >> let's go big picture from our historian at the end of of the table. it's been said at nauseum the incumbent president struggles in midterm elections. >> as always trump he defies easy categorization. on one side you have president bush j john kennedy who did well and on the other side truman, clinton, obama who got wiped out. and 2006 which president bush referred to as a thumpen. no g >> 2010 was the shellacking. >> i think iconography of power is important and i think you can
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lose a battle and win a war. i wonder going forward the republican party has to figure out a way to actually address itself to the changing nature of the republic. and this is -- can i quote aerostautal? >> do it. >> the republic is only as good as the sum of its parts and if the party continues to be a white, rural male party, at some point there's going to be diminishing return on that because there are going to be fewer white, rural males and that doesn't mean that there's a kingdom of heaven progressive moment sitting throughout. it's very important to remember in presidential elections over the last hundred years or so we've only had two occasions where one party has held the white house for longer than eight years. there's an eke wulibrium in
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politics. it still not going to be 65/60% progressive country. one of the remarkable things about these numbers all night long is how close almost all these races have been. some people would say that's a sign we're so divided and it's a sign that inyou make a compelling case, you have a chance to win politically and to win politically is not forever. that's the reverend's job, the wing forever. the point of politics is to manufacture a consensus to solve a certain problem for a certain period of time. and i think what's going to happen over the next 24 months -- >> 727. >> -- is that the president will not be about solving problems. frf but that doesn't mean he's not going to be reelected.
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i was talking to my 14-year-old daughter and trying to make the point is i said this is a tragic enterprise. and that took a while. she's used to it. but the he said the establish omt justice in a simple world. it is kind of a sad duty. >> mad men, immoral society. >> the way that democrats won tonight did not mean that they touched rural america. that they'll need to capture the white house because off the way the elect oral college is. so they're going to have to figure that out. >> don't forget "morning joe" here live from studio 88 rockefeller studio.
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and immediately efollowing the president came in, did an event, unified the party and i think we saw that come through tonight. >> white house press secretary sarah huckabee sanders outside the white house. when they head to washington, the never trump wing will look much different than it does now. senator bob corker is the out going chairman of foreign relations committee rarely shied away. there's senator jeff flake that has railed against the president's temperament and rhetoric. but one new potential source of push back could be mitt romney whom the peep 0ople of utah are sending to the senate. >> the call for greater dignity and respect. i believe it's an affirmation that regardless of one's gender or ethnicity or race or place of
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birth that we eare all equal, not only in the eyes off god but also in the respect and dignity we eare due from government and from our fellow americans. i will be only one of 198 senators but i believe one doing the right thing at the right time can have a lasting impact. >> and msnbc political analyst and the rest oof the panel still with me as well. are you buying mitt romney as the new civility in the senate? >> he doesn't come into this role owing anybody anything. he's made pretty clear in the past his views on trump. he ehad the secretary of state position and got spurned by donald trump. it was kind off a cat and mouse.
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and we'll see how he's going to respond. if he's going to see this as a political moment when he could step up and lead or if he's going to behave like a lot of the rest of the spineless republicans on capitol hill. >> bob corker, jeff flake and others, they would come out and make speeches and speak out at certain moments in time and they would by and large went along with his policies. >> that's the fear we ecome out of tonight and that is some of those that are the most trump, that no matter what he did defended him won tonight. so does that mean you're going to have less people like flake around that will challenge him because by the time he finishes spinning this morning, a lot of them are going to be whipped into line which is going to make
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the country even more divided with the house now with the democrats, are we into an eternal battle back and forward and not get anything done like infrastructure and other things. and let's not rush past the fact that the secretary of state of georgia all the sudden was the candidate for governor and he was the referee deciding the match and he's barely ahead. i mean if i was advising stacey abrams i'd tell her to get into court and stop everything, i'd thing we were looking at robbery in clear view in terms of how you manipulate a race this close and the secretary of state is going to have something to do with how we count this. this is 2018 even in georgia. >> she did not have the feel of a person who's going to walk away from this lightly.
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>> because she knows the history of georgia and voter suppression in the south and i think you cannot look at the results in georgia, you can't look that results in florida even and not think about the history of this country and the history of race in this country. i want us all to reflect back on what happened immediately preceding voting and that was white nationalist terrorism in three different forms that happened right before this election. that's still very much a factor. what are the people in congress going to do when the president continues his rhetoric that he will likely take out of last night the lesson that it worked. because in a lot of these red states it did work and they reelected republicans and a lot of candidates that matched donald trump's rhetoric won tonight. so in a country where we've just
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had these tragedies, is that where we'red headed? because donald trump is not going to pivot and be more moderate on those issues. >> they're going to let him carry on the way he's been doing. we'll see what happens with the stacey abrams case. trrs the three rising stars. i think it's fair the democratic party a lot of people pinned hopes on all three of them. are you discourage canned or encouraged by how close the races were? >> when i look that fact that i was in miami on sunday marching around amendment four and going to the churches and gillum went to the rallies, 18 years ago i was marching about hanging chats in florida, we would not have dreamed.
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to thing that a black woman in georgia where martin luther king jr. is buried where people were beaten for even voting is my opinion a highway to winning the florida governorship is progress. but always remember it was not even in your reach let alone your grasp in the past. but i have hope but vote is not enough. >> we need restoration of the voting rights act and i think the shelby county decision played out and i think we're seeing the results. we saw that again last night. >> we'll see if stacey abrams makes her case. >> exit polling confirms nearly
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2/3 of voters say president trump was a factor. 26% say the vote was to express support for the president and 38% say it was a show of opposition against him. and a 54% job approval rating for president trump with more than half disproving. and 47% of the polls say they strongly disprove of the job president trump is doing. that 44% number a little higher than we've seen in other public polling but about where the president's been. somewhere in the mid40s. >> and the president was stlee grasp what a referendum this was going to be on him. he's not necessarily been embracing that he was there for leader of the republican party. that skef definitely changed in
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recent months. they impressed upon him if the democrats were to win and perhaps both houses off congress and he took on that challenge and had a rather robust travel schedule, particularly in the end. the focus then of course became on the senate, preserving the republican majority there and white house aids telling me not just to ward off imepeachment and how they can could keep their agenda go ipg. we're expecting quite a bit of change in the white house staff and his cabinet in the coming days and weeks. the senate will be key to confirming their replaces and more instrumental in his trade deals going forward. so that became his focus less on the house. and it's starting to begin tonight even in the early hours or this morching. a little bit of finger pointing
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bedwe between the white house and capitol hill on whose shoulders it is to blame for losing the house. his early retirement signalled to other republicans that they could walk away. that they were slow to embrace some of trump's messaging. meanwhile we know from our reporting a couple of times in the last two weeks ryan called the president and said he needed to back off his immigration rhetoric. thought that was going to be the death blowoff keeping the house. >> meanwhile paul ryan has his bags pack aed and not have to dl with this anymore. as the republicans continue to hang on to the senate, we'll see more hearings against the president. and "morning joe" live from
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welcome back to msnbc's live coverage. it's 5:30 a.m. proper morning show here on the east coast. 2:30 a.m. on the west coast. democrats have locked up a majority in the house off representatives and with that comes another major prize, control of the house committee. that means they'll have subpoena power to investigate the president of the united states. most importantly the democrat bill head the intelligence committee. democrats called it premature and reopening that will be likely top of the list.
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and a spread sheet that catalogues more than 100 formal requests from this congress spanning nearly every committee. james comey's firing, president trump's tax returns and a hush money payment to porn star stormy daniels. john helman has joined our conversation. good morning, john. thanks for stopping by. >> this is like the old days, like the way too early days. >> we're in the window. >> i feel like there's a wave of nostalgia coming over me or it could be the crystal meth kicking in. >> thanks for joining us. john's been up all night it if you can't tell. what's your big picture analysis of what happened last night? >> i think -- i mean the conventional wisdom was we were going to get a split decision
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and this time unlike 2016, it was actually confirmed. i was out with the circus over the last weekend, 72 hours i hit eight states in three days and all in places where there were interesting races to go and see. the john edwards theme from 2004. there are two americas and there were two americas on display in the contested senate races in the house and the egeography told the story. that i think is the biggest thing and the biggest thing about the outcome is a lot of democrats won't wake up feeling great because democrats being democrats like the invest a lot of hope and emotion into their marquee candidates. we saw be it t oo o'rourke lose and possibly
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stacey abrams and they're going to wake up not feeling great and not happy that donald trump has been reward would a bigger majority. but you got to keep reminding them that winning control of the house is a really big deal. it's not just investigating donald trump, it's investigating every cabinet member. the big message to republicans is lawyer up and they're going to be dealing with stuff over the course of the next two years and they have the power to stop donald trump's agenda and prosfried the first time since the president's been president an effective check on his ability to pass legislation, to run foreign policy and effective guardrails, because of the investigative power around him. i think we can go through governor's races and other things but they got to stay
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focussed on that. even though there were real warning signs and difficult challenges they have to navigate now. when those three candidates embraced a particular model for how to win all look like they've lost and that has implications too. >> you talked about the subpoena power but not over reaching. what's the danger for democrats right now? they have all this pent up energy. could they use too much of it at once? >> i think they cannot just focus on tearing trump down. what you must focus on because your base wants to see that but you also have to build up things and be able to show that you in power have produced things. they've got to go for jobs, they've got to counter the voter rights abuses while they subpoena trump.
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i'm saying do both and. because the worst that could happen is you get to 2020 and all you can talk about is how you chased trump around the block, who's going to have all kinds of moves he's going to keep all of us -- >> he'd love that. >> as long as you talk about him good or bad, he doesn't care. you've got to deal with him as the subject and change the subject at the same time and put the priority of people, health care, infrastructure, all of that. they've got to show they can govern and hold him accountable. >> not the trump side, not the side that wants to impeach and all those other two things he as a constructive move? >> i would pass something to protect people with with preexisting conditions. i would announce we're going to see that right away. i would also say house democrats have an opportunity to do sthij to protect the mueller
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investigation because that's where this is all going to go next. bob mueller has a lot to tell us. the national security advisor, deputy campaign manager still waiting to be sentenced. so that has not gone away just because america went to vote yesterday. i thing the house democrats can do a lot to protect and insure integrity. because the integrity of our elections as we're seeing is at the heart of our democracy. if we can't trust the results at the end of the night, what are we doing here? the bottom line is donald trump woke up this morning for the first time in his entire life where there was somebody powerful enough to hold him accountable for his behavior and that's big deal. democrats are going to wake up emotionally letdown because really exciting new candidates lost last night but i think they
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can grasp that they have something to hold him accountable, when he over reaches, when he puts children into cages and push back against policies that are hurting people. >> adam shif will take over the intel committee saying we're going to protect bob mueller and his investigation on my watch. what's the most likely course of action for a democratic house of representatives, not just with the trump side of it but with the constructive legislative side? >> sure, so democrats have two tracks. there's the investigation side and the legislation side. they're going to work with president trump on issues like infrastructure. trump campaigned on a crumbleing infrastructure. so democrats are saying step up. we'll work with you on it if you're serious about it. other things that -- as far as
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the investigations are concerned, those are going to happen simultaneously. so if the president can work with democrats at the same time while they're investigating him, it's going to be really interesting because a lot of these investigations are going to gum up the white house. it's going to take a lot of time and resources for the white house to respond to the subpoenas that were expected. democrats have a list of preliminary list of 64 subpoenas that they want. if the president responds or if they abide by them, we'll have to wait and see, then it would go einto the courts which takes additional resources as well. and one thing i want to say is the lame duck. year talking about a new congress but we have the next two months off a lame duck where year expecting a big fight over the border wall. house republicans are saying they want all $25 billion for
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trump's border wall and it could cause a government shut down. so even before we get to the new congress we have new fights ahead. >> which asks why didn't they get the boarder wall when they had both the house the senate? and congressman chris collins has been charged with insider trading has been reelected. and another one -- our special election coverage continues.
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that simplify your experience. my name is mike, i'm in product development at comcast. we're working to make things simple, easy and awesome. i want to thank this amazing campaign of people, not a dime from single pack, all people, all the time in every single part of texas, all of you showing the country how you do this. i'm so [ bleep] proud of you guys. >> that's part of beto o'rourke's spirited concession speech. trrs he ultimately came up close against senator ted cruz. but the loss is likely to fuel even more speculation about a
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possible presidential run for o'rourke. and others include it elizabeth warren and here are some of senator warren ps victory speech. >> thank you all. but remember your work isn't done. so much depends on what we do next. donald trump and his corrupt friends have spent the last two years building walls of anger and division and resentment. tonight, as the first cracks begin to appear in that wall, let us declare that our fight is not over until we have transformed our government, transformed our government into one that works not just for the rich the powerful but works for everyone. >> so weave are rr been sitting here since 2:00 this morning.
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three hours and 45 minutes. i think we've earned the right to talk about 2020. we're going to do the things you're not supposed to do but people like o'rourke and gillum. i think a plot of people saw the future of what their marty could be and who could take on president trump. >> i'm divided on that based on my road tripping over the last couple of weeks across america. i think there's a real hunger for another alternative and democrats are not necessarily sure what they want right now. they're leaning more progressive left but i think there's moesh more of an opportunity in the middle and one of the things i've learned is just how open minded trump supporters and republicans are about a primary challenge to president trump and i've thought we're in new
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hampshire and they can float around with new options but can it continued everywhere we went. how republican primary voters were open to something better than donald trump, even though they kind of like him but they thought we still can do better. >> there are going to be about 150 democrats running in 2020. >> that's on the low end. >> who are you looking at a couple years from now? >> just start at beto o'rourke who -- there's no doubt that there's a lot of reason losing your first state wide race is not the best calling card. although it would have kicked him out of the 2020 race. reality is o'rourke did generate a huge amount enthusiasm and raised an ungodly amount of money and those are positive things for someone who might want to run for president.
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there will be a serious conversation in the o'rourke house hold whether to do that and there will be a market for him. i'm not saying he would necessarily win but there's an opening for him if he wants to do that. and what has been thought of as the top tier, the five everyone placed above the others. bernie sanders, e-elizabeth warden, joe biden and cory booker. those are the ones that have done the most in the invisible primaries of trying to raise money for other candidates, being out on the road. i don't know that all five are going to run. i have significant doubts about both. i think the other three are running. and openly running and going to be out there -- it's not too early to talk about it and i'll remind everyone that back in 2008 -- sorry 2006, the day after the midterms was the day
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barack oobama walked india and d i've been out doing all this stuff, we've been feeling it out the past year. we've got to get going and he was in the race by 2007. by january of 2019 we're going to see a dozen people will be in the race by january and certainly by the end of -- when you turn the corner, the beginning oof the q2. trrs some people will want to wait because of the fund raising question. but people that will get in jan squa ware and a bunch of people in april. and in a race that could have all these people. there's a lot of different leans. one thing that happened on the democratic side which was a lot of women ran and won. and the power of female votes in the democratic party was afirmed and reinforced last night and so
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again not a guarantee of any kind but if you are a powerful woman think e woman thinking of running for president, that's a real lane to get into. so they're going to look up and see what they saw last night as an indication that their inclination to run has been reinforced. >> of that group anyone excite you more than others? >> i think that clearly kamala harr harris is exciting. e-elizabeth warren is exciting. when i ran in 2004, by now you know if you're running. because by january everybody's going to be throughout or you're out of it. every april we have the convention. april of 2007 we had seven/eight of them there that was running next year. so this is no time to play like coy. and hard to get.
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and i think that that's key. but i think the voters are going to want after two more years of what we're going to see in terms of the divisiveness and the sheer bringing bringing down thf the presidency, they're going to want to see an adult, somebody that knows how to run government. so you've got to have the passion and show that you're mature and can be grownup at the same time. >> how is the for a tease? serlena is going to give us her pick when we come right back. our special election coverage continues. coming up at the top of the hour, "morning joe." we'll be right back. - [narrator] meet the ninja foodi,
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thank you all. >> that is nancy pelosi a few hours ago, getting the chance of speaker speaker and that will be come january. democrats have taken control of the house of representatives. as promised, we were talking about 2020 and turning the corner from the midterms to this presidential election coming up two years from now. where is the energy? who do you like? >> i mean, i think -- you know, we were talking during the break, and i think that senator elizabeth warren has, really, the best massage right now. for where the progressive base is. and that is how you win a democratic primary. she's in the room. i've seen her speak many times. in the room, she's very compelling, both on substance, but she's one of the first democratic politicians that wasn't black that i heard say black lives matter without any caveat. she just said it and she meant
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it. and i think that's going to resinate with voters because it's authentic and she's backing it up with substance. she's definitely somebody i'm looking to generate that excitement that we saw in the democratic primary in 2016 that gave us on the hillary clinton campaign so much of a headache. but i also am looking at other folks like cory booker and pamela harris to see how they are going to reach out to those same constituencies. because at the end of the day, you have to reach out to the progressive base and black voters to win a democratic primary. >> it's coming, it's here. we've turned from the midterms and those people will be thinking that way. before we go, let's get your final thoughts on this night for the democratic party and for the country. >> we knew there were going to be two different verdicts coming from two different america and i think the question we've been unable to answer all night because it's a big question is what it would take to heal the country. i think would it would take is effective, clear leadership from the republican side and i think
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