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so be true to who you are, tell people who you really believe and let the chips fall where they may. >> can i say that's something i like the three of you, so tau to all of you for doing just that for me. i'll see you all again. we're approaching the top of the hour. a breaking news report at the top of the hour. i'm alex witt at nbc headquarters in new york. we're focusing on florida, a partisan battle over every last ballot. all counties have reported their early vote, provisional ballots. they had to do so before the noon deadline an hour ago. a motion was approved in broward county for a machine recount. now new numbers in the razor thin numbers. the race for senate, the lead governor rick scott over incumbent bill nelson has narrowed to now just 0.15 of a percentage point. this is how the race for governor is now standing. the lead of trump ally ron
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desantis has narrowed to just 0.41 of a percentage point. that right there is within the margin required to trigger a recount by machine. we are waiting for official word that indeed this recount has got got under way. officials in the county are denying accusations of voter fraud. >> we are pleased to report that excluding overseas ballots which may be legally received up to ten days after the election, all of the ballots cast have been processed and the results have been transmitted to tallahassee. >> to give a claim of fraud without any evidence i think is unacceptable. >> on election night we all heard democrat andrew gillum concede the race. however, now, not so fast. gillum is expected to speak to
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the media at 3:00 p.m. today. >> you have to stiffen your spine and square your shoulders to the task. i'm prepared to do that. let's count every vote and let's bring it home. >> meanwhile, before the president took off for paris, he amplified unsubstantiated claims of voter fraud in florida. >> all of a sudden they're finding votes out of nowhere. i hear -- i don't know, you tell me. it's always the democrats. it's always gps fusion. it's always crooked stuff. >> all right. let's bring in democratic congresswoman jackie speier of california, a member of the intelligence and arms services committees. she's the author of "undaunted: surviving jonestown." i appreciate this woman, something th -- this book, it's something every woman should read. we'll get back to that. the air of confusion will all get sorted out amidst accusations of voter fraud
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coming from every which direction. >> first of all, it's irresponsible for governor scott and the president to lash out and say voter fraud and they have no evidence. it's like the president saying that the election was rigged when he ran for president and as soon as he won, he didn't say it was rigged anymore. so these are fallacious comments being made. and they're really irresponsible. i would also say, there's something wrong in florida, i've got to say. long lines, not allowing people to hand in their ballots on day of or have it post marked on day of, and then not being able to count them, having no longer hanging chads but it appears there are other issues as well. so i think across this country we have got to get really serious about making sure that we are not a third world country in terms of our elections process. no one should have to wait in line for three hours to vote. and we should have vote by mail an option for every american who
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is registered to vote. we should make sure that by the time you turn 18, you're automatically registered to vote. there shouldn't be obstacles and hurdles that people should have to jump through. >> all right, ma'am, i'll ask you to stand by. we have nbc news's r ron allen, phoning in from lauderhill, florida. those pictures we're showing on the screen are from lauderhill, clearly there are protests under way. ron, tell us what's happening there? >> reporter: it feels like nobody is happy. the election process is continuing on and there are protesters on both sides. a number of people supporting gillum, a number of people supporting desantis, rick scott and bill nelson as well. they're yelling fraud, a passionate group of people out here all morning, waiting for this process to continue.
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broward county did, as we understand it, send their unofficial vote totals to tallahassee as everyone in the state was instructed to do by the noon deadline. i'm not sure where the process goes from there. there's every indication there's going to be at least a machine recount and perhaps a hand recount of the senate race and perhaps a machine recount of the governor's race. but the bottom line is that out here, the passion is just incredible. people are really not happy with the way this whole thing is going. and what struck me is that remember, we're talking about paper ballots for the most part that are being used here, paper ballots that are some ten, 12, 13 pages in length, sitting in the border of elections. they're arguing about 25 mail-in ballots, and another 200 provisional ballots, that the
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two sides are arguing about whether should be counted or not. that's the level of precision, because these races are so tight. we're talking about less than half a percent between them. again, the protests are going on, people are waiting to hear what's going on. there's a lot of confusion and a lot of anger and just frustration with the whole process. >> this kind of sentiment, ron, before i let you go, that will not be quelled at all over the next few days because it's my understanding they would have now until wednesday to get these recounts done by machine and then come up with the findings, is that how you understand it as well? so this could go on for another three, four days. >> reporter: at least. because besides the counting, you have all the lawyers in the room. >> right. >> reporter: and there's all kinds of legal cases going on on both sides, if they can't win it at the ballot box, with each side fighting it out.
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this is florida, this is crazy, why does this keep happening? the side that's winning says this is democracy, this is the way it happens, it's a noisy process but works out in the end. the side that's losing of course doesn't see it that way. so the bottom line is that the vote count seems to keep narrowing in favor of the democratic candidates and that stands to reason because most of those votes are coming from urban areas. and they say, the democrats, it just takes time to do this, no one's stealing anything, it just takes time to actually do this. again, we continue, and you're right, alex, this is going to go on for a while, because even the final decision or outcome, there's going to be little faith in it from one side or the other. >> it looks like we have at least thursday to get the results of the recount, another five days in which to buckle up and endure the emotions,
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heightened very much so here by the citizens there in florida. okay, ron allen, thank you for that. we're going to go back now to democratic congresswoman jackie speier of california. congresswoman, i want to get to the situation with the doj. what do you think the president was trying to accomplish by forcing jeff sessions out, bringing in matthew whitaker as the acting attorney general? >> i think the president is pretty transparent. he wants to shut down the mueller investigation. he's wanted to do it for over a year. he was frustrated by sessions' recusing himself, he's now kicked him out and put in his place someone who it appears is a political operative who has been whispering into the president's ear for months on how to scuttle the investigation. this is not the attorney general of this country that's supposed to be the chief law enforcement officer of this country. and he's probably violating the
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constitution because he needs to have the advice and consent of the senate in order to make an appointment of what is called a principal officer. >> but congresswoman, do you think he would actually do that? i mean, it would seem beyond the word "remarkable" were he to try to shut down this investigation and successfully do so. he's been advised by people both publicly and privately including by his friend lindsey graham who said it would be political suicide to do so. >> lindsey graham has changed his tune on a lot of issues in the last year. what i do feel is that the president feels like he's in a corner now, he's like a wounded animal. he knows that the house is going to take seriously its responsibilities to complete the russia investigation that was prematurely ended, that there will be an effort to access his tax returns, not to find out whether he's wealthy or not, no one really cares, but to access
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whether or not he has been co-opted by russian oligarchs and others, part of the mafia of russia, in many of the buildings that he has been part of, both in toronto and in panama. >> so what do you think the odds are of bipartisan support, for better or for worse, for democrats renewing the push for legislation to protect robert mueller and the investigation? >> we've already heard from senators flake and coons that they'll exercise their rights to bring their bill to the floor of the senate. we're hoping we're going to put the constitution before everything else, and since we've all sworn to uphold it, we have an obligation to do that. >> i want to turn to the investigations of the soon-to-be democratically controlled house. >> are you offering a my way or highway scenario to the democrats?
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>> not talat all. >> that if they start playing that game with you, you can play the game with them? can you compartmentalize that and work with them for the good of the country or are all bets off? >> no. if they do that, all it is is a war-like posture. >> what's the game plan for the democrats? are you gearing up for a war-like posture? >> that's what's so disturbing. that's why so many americans fled in their support of the program by voting for democrats. that's why you'll see a substantial blue wave when all these ballots are cast in these various seats. we've already won over 30 seats. so i think the president is making a big mistake. i don't think he's listening to his advisers anymore. and again, i think he feels like a wounded animal who has been cornered and he's going to show his fangs. we're just going to do our job, which is to do a thorough investigation, use the subpoena
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power that frankly our intelligence colleagues on the intelligence committee agreed to use and then reneged on it. and we won't have a mouthpiece like devin nunes trying to dictate what goes on on that committee. >> we'll hear more from adam schiff, i would think, going forward now. can you prioritize what you would like to have investigated? we've heard nancy pelosi say she wants to go after the president's personal taxes. there's taxes, the prospect of impeachment. where do you stand on sort of the order, the hierarchy of how things should go down? >> i think it's very important to determine whether or not the president is making money off of the american people by being president. he shouldn't be doing that. the emoluments clause makes that very clear. we also need to find out why he was so intent on cozying up to vladimir putin. and there is so much evidence to suggest that in many of these properties, whether it was the toronto hotel, the soho hotel,
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the panama property, all the money that went through those properties was being laundered. and there is a foreign corrupt practices act in this country that requires you to determine whether or not money is being laundered into a project in which you are engaged. and if you're getting cash coming in to purchase these units, that's a clear sign there probably is money laundering going on. those are the kinds of things we need to look at. >> congresswoman jackie speier, i hope you come back to speak with me again, also to have a conversation about your book, a personal tribute to you but also something that many women can be inspired by reading this book. congratulations on that. >> thank you. >> thank you so much. coming up next, the president suspects elect ral cheyenne -- electoral shenanigans in
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all of a sudden, they're finding votes out of nowhere. >> florida and arizona clearly top of mind for the president. two senate races two close to call on this saturday. democrat kyrsten sinema with a slight edge over republican martha mcsally in arizona. more than 300,000 ballots still have to be counted.
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governor rick scott just over the 50% mark in florida, the election expiring just over an hour ago. cornell belcher, former obama pollster and msnbc political analyst, cornell, welcome to you. this florida vote is clearly headed for a machine recount. what are the expectations and should the president be concerned? >> i expect, i would hope every american would expect, democrat or republican, that you count every vote. to me it doesn't have to be that complicated. the president and everyone else should calm down and make sure every vote is counted, it speaks to the legitimacy of our democracy. it's hilarious that those crying voter fraud and foul are those that have been involved in the infrastructure and process there. the truth is governor scott should have put more resources in broward county and other counties, quite frankly, so they can handle this sort of turnout.
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what happens is this is a form of voter suppression, when you make it harder for people to vote, people have to stand in longer lines to vote and they're uncertain about the process, it is a form of voter suppression. so i would say, not as a democrat, not as a republican, just as an american, we have to count every vote. and when we count every vote, i think we'll -- you know, i'm happy with whatever the decision voters in fact decide once every vote is counted. >> right. so republicans in both florida and arizona, they have filed lawsuits, they want to try to slow down or stop altogether the voting process. aren't there republican votes that remain uncounted as well? >> that's part of the problem. it goes back to my earlier point. you have to look at what's happening, you see also the same thing in georgia. it's funny how in places that are more democratic, it is harder to in fact vote than places that are less democratic. particularly around urban areas.
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it's funny, around urban areas you have less resources and less places to vote and the state legislators have been working this. you had the congresswoman on earlier talking about the problems and issues voting. democrats are now in the majority. congresswoman, i would say to you and fellow democrats in majority in the house, put on the top of your agenda voting election reform. there should be a standard way across this country that's for vote so people aren't disenfranchised. >> she certainly talked about that, and the need for having a uniform way of doing it. what about the governors' races, we're talking about georgia and florida too close to call. stacey abrams in florida is working the phones herself, trying to find voters who cast provisional ballots. what's the path? do you see a path for either democrat in those races? >> i do, and clearly republicans see the path as well or they
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wouldn't be trying to stop the voting. every day the democrats, it narrows. gillum is now 30,000 votes, and not all the votes are counted. again, this should be about democracy, not about power. just count all the votes. and let's go with the decision of the people. but right now, i think there's a lot of people who are uncertain that all the votes are going to be -- i'm more worried about not counting all the votes than i am voter fraud. we have plenty of -- there is no evidence whatsoever of voter fraud, however there is evidence that ballots get lost and votes go uncounted and that should be our focus. >> so there are 11 house races still too close to call. we've got one in california 48, where pro-russian republican dana rohrabacher is behind. you have races in new jersey, utah as well, republican mia love who the president mocked in that press conference in the east room, which was really
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extraordinary, that has yet to be completely decided. how do you see these playing out? >> i was on our network here for election day, and i said a lot of republicans with this wave election, a lot of republicans who were stuck into statistical ties, somewhere around 48 to 47%, they were going to lose because that's what happens in wave elections. we saw that in '94. i think a lot of these elections are going to break democrat, particularly against incumbents, and we've seen that. i was not as bullish on the number of seats that democrats would win going into election, i thought they would pick up the majority, but i didn't think they would get above 34, 35. they look like they're now getting to 35 or 40, which is remarkable when you know how gerrymandered these districts have become, how tough it is to take out an incumbent of any
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party. again, the voice of the people is speaking. let's count all the votes and let's let the chips fall where they may. >> do you want to give a summary, professional opinion, blue wave, purple? how would you categorize this election? >> it's not even close, it was a blue wave. democrats looked like like they would pick up 35 to 40 seats. a year ago, no one thought that was even possible. we flipped more statehouse seats than -- you know, close to 400 statehouse seats have been flipped since trump's takeover. seven governorships. we have to go back since before i was able to vote, when a party consent governorships, and still counting, by the way. and look, in the states that are most important for 2020, michigan, ohio, pennsylvania, wisconsin, democrats had a really good night. if i were a republican, i would be very worried about 2020, particularly when you look at
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for the first time in history, democrats are winning college white voters. and we haven't won college white voters in a long, long time, and pulling even with white women. we haven't been this competitive with white voters since lbj signed the civil rights legislation and realigned the parties. >> i'm supposed to go but can i just ask you, that youth vote you're talking about, is that applicable to a distaste for donald trump? >> it is, particularly among college-educated white women, it absolutely is. >> cornell belcher, thanks for giving me a short answer, because otherwise they would be yelling in my ear. a democrat has a big win in trump country, he'll tell us how he did it, next. >> we need to get rid of all the leadership in d.c., republican and democrat. your mornings were made for better things,
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some new insight now into a surprise democratic victory in new york city's staten island, a republican stronghold which voted health of for donald trump two years ago. it's one of the 30 house seats the democrats flipped on tuesday. democrat max rose defeated by
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six percentage points to incumbent dan donovan who was endorsed by president trump. >> we need to get rid of all the leadership in it d.c., republican and democrat. saying that won't do much for me with the establishment. but look around. the traffic, the drugs. >> we're excited to welcome represent-elect max rose in studio. how are you doing, congratulations. >> i'm doing great, thank you so much for having me on. >> i bet you are feeling great. how did you convince trump supporters to vote for you? >> i knocked on thousands of doors throughout this campaign for more than a year. never once did i knock on a door and have someone say, look, before you talk, i want to self-identify as a donald trump supporter. what you do hear from people is they're pissed off that they have a two-hour commute. they're angry because they've lost loved ones to overdoses. they're kids are scared of gun violence.
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that's what we spoke to. what's on the ballot was not donald trump but it certainly was changing politics in this country. people do not want to continue this era that we have been living in of hyperdivisiveness, hypervitriol. they actually want to see us solve things, not in incrementalist ways, but in bold ways and dynamic ways. that's a plan we put forward. we earned people's trust in the process. >> amen to all of that. but you did run something of an anti-establishment campaign. now you go to washington, the ultimate establishment headquarters, right? how do you work with the establishment there? >> i'll work with anyone who gives me an iron-clad agreement that they're going to help me solve problems at home and across the country. that shouldn't be hard. but there are also people that i am not going to prioritize. folks like corporate pacs who i never accepted a cent from, corporate lobbyists who i never accepted a cent from, nor will i ever. we have to change politics in this country.
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that doesn't mean going along to get along. that doesn't mean continuing this culture in d.c. where people care more about their twitter and facebook followers and about winning the next election than they do about solving problems quickly. >> i'm loving what i'm hearing but i also love what i've heard from other candidate-elects over the years. they have the refreshing approach, the honest, straightforward approach, like you're putting forward here. then they get to washington and it's hard to get there and rattle cages and actually make a difference. how will you be different? >> anyone that says that they can do this quickly is either lying,naive, or they're incompetent. i intend on serving in this capacity for hopefully the rest of my career, so i'm not saying this will happen quickly. if you go back to 2011-ish when republicans took back congress, they said their singular objective is to make sure that
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barack obama doesn't win another term. that wasn't just wrong. that was un-american. i can tell you right away, if i am faced with a fork in the road, a decision point between helping the people in my district or hurting the president politically, i will always choose to help the people back home. that's the type of elected official i'm going to be. we'll have good days, we'll have bad days, but we're going to get something done. >> what do you think the number one priority should be for the democrats and will you be on board with investigations? >> that's two separate questions. i was honored to help lead a coalition to call on the democratic party, over a hundred democratic candidates, to say that we have to start off with an anticorruption bill. we have got to get the toxic and corrosive nature of corporate money and lobbyist money out of our politics. >> you mean it's still a swamp there? >> look, that's true. and you make a great point. donald trump ran on draining the swamp. >> right.
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>> let's start draining it. i'm totally on board to do that. you bring up investigations, right? you know, we have got to maintain a rule of law. we have got to maintain independent, nonpolitical investigations. but it's absolutely critical that we chew gum and walk at the same time. i'll tell you, i spoke about knocking on doors. i never once knocked on a door and heard someone say, look, tomorrow if you issue another subpoena, that will really make my life better. that doesn't mean that we don't do the right thing, we don't have checks and balances. but we need to just as forthrightly talk about infrastructure, lowering health care costs, doing something about the opioid epidemic, because we lost 70,000 people last year and that's absolutely unacceptable in the greatest country in the world. >> how about nancy pelosi, do you support her as the next house speaker? >> absolutely not. and i think what's so shocking about that question, no disrespect, is that i ran forthrightly on not supporting her for the entirety of my campaign, and then there seems to be this assumption now that because i got elected, i'm going to flip-flop.
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that's what's wrong with politics in this country. it should be assumed that i'm going to do what i say. i don't intend on breaking a promise that i made in my first couple of days as an elected official. >> has nancy pelosi reached out to you to ask for your support? >> no, she has not. >> okay. democratic candidates, is there an overall lesson to be learned from the midterms and if so what do you think it is? >> if we think that there's one lesson to be learned, then i think that we're searching for the wrong thing. people who won i think ran effective campaigns that were focused on their districts. there's no silver bullet, no one golden message that we can say across the nation, because people are different. but i think that what i learned from this process is that you should never ask for someone's vote. you should ask for their trust. because people understand, they're very smart, that the problems that we will face three to five years or ten years from now are unpredictable, and we have got to start length people with integrity and courage, and
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real experience that will allow them to hit the ground running against problems that are unforeseen. that's how people vote. and that's a beautiful thing. >> okay. go get 'em. representative max rose of new york, thank you. >> thank you so much for having me. >> we'll see you again, no doubt. up next, what could be a budding feud between the president and michelle obama and the president's tendency to demean african-american women. juicy on the inside and crispy on the outside. go from fresh to deliciously done in half the time. which means it may become the only thing you use in your kitchen. (tapping) for cooking, at least. (upbeat music) the ninja foodi, with tendercrisp, the cooking while parenting technology.
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i guess she wrote a book, she got paid a lot of money to write a book. they also insist you come up with controversial. i'll give you a little controversy back. i'll never forgive him for what he did to our united states military by not funding it properly. it was depleted. >> president trump reacting to first lady michelle obama who has criticized him in her new book, "becoming." she called out the president for the role he played in the birther movement, saying, donald trump with his loud and reckless innuendos put my family at risk. you wrote a book called "black
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woman re defindefined." do you think mrs. obama's words were political? give me a read on this. >> no, first of all she remains enormously popular across the board. republican women love her as much as democrat women. she's very popular. that's number one. number two, if the president were a real man, yes, i'm saying that, he would have said, you know what, i was outline about the birther thing, i didn't get it right. but of course he'll never do that. any mother can relate to the safety of her children and safety. tucker carlson's wife was home alone and they had people outside protesting and she was frightened. this stuff is real. our words matter. back to your question about the book, alex, i was inspired during the 2008 campaign. i was a practicing lawyer in a big law firm. i was so inspired by the obamas. i had always wanted to write, i was doing some writing for "the washington post" on the side, and i got my opportunity when he
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won the primary. i wrote this article in "the washington post," it went viral. next thing you know, i had a book deal about black women and the stereotypes that define us. and the rest is history. and i was blessed to cover them and to get to know both of them a little bit. and i admire them both greatly. >> and to bring your perspective to us, for which we are entirely grateful. the president was holding back to a degree on attacking michelle obama directly. he kind of pivoted and went after her husband. will that hold as more details come out from the book? >> no. you know that one night he's going to be up light, he's going to be cranky and mean like he is over in france right now and he's going to start tweeting about her. look, he's already in trouble with black women. he's gone after april, he's gone after abby, he's gone after yamiche alcindor. they're all friends of mine, black journalists who are
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outstanding. i don't think emptihe wants to f the rails with michelle obama. >> everyone take a listen to this. >> on the campaign trail you called yourself a nationalist. some people saw that as emboldening white nationalists. >> i don't know why you would say that. such a racist question. >> reporter: do you want matt whitaker to rein in robert mueller? >> what a stupid question that is. what a stupid question. but i watch you a lot. you ask a lot of stupid questions. the same thing with april ryan. i watch her get up, i mean, you talk about somebody that's a loser. she doesn't know what the hell she's doing. >> i know, i mean, we saw yamiche there and then to abby and he references april. how much do you think that is politics and how much do you think there is a group to whom this behavior appeals, and what
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group is that? >> well, what i think, alex, is that the president is getting more and more abrasive with his language towards everybody. the press, african-american women. he definitely doesn't like the correspondent at cnn. and so there is just a group of people that he doesn't like and that kind of means all of us if we're going to be honest except for his base. yes, i think it appeals to his base. but i think that his attacks on black women in particular, whether it's frederica wilson or maxine waters or omarosa, he's particularly nasty, calling them dogs, calling them stupid, calling them a loser. as a black woman, that's code language, we all know what that means and we don't like it and we're not going to stand for it either. expect to hear a lot more from us sisters about the president's behavior. >> there's a very diverse group of freshmen women coming to congress in the house. how do you think the president is going to relate to that? >> i think that's why he was so
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not pleasant at the press conference. he's not a dumb man, contrary to what many may think. he's crazy like a fox, as my grandmother used to say. he knows what he's doing. at the end of the day, he's that archie bunker uncle that you have who is stuck in the 1950s. he doesn't like the shifting demographics. think of it, donald trump is a rich white man. his whole life has been about privilege and access, doing what he wants, saying what he wants, having what he wants. so he doesn't do well when women talk back or people of color talk back because that's not been his experience at all. >> can i just quickly show the picture that we have from your book of you and michelle obama, it's really cute there. she wrote in the book, politics is not anything i want have chosen for myself. she'll never go there, do you think? >> no, i think that's not her. i think her platform is global. i think she is teaching women how to talk about our problems, to talk about our pain, to talk about our marriages, to get hem. she's just amazing. and i adore her and i'm unabashed about that. >> there you go.
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new insight now into midterm election results. "the washington post" breaks it down in a new article, with five charts explaining who voted and how they voted. that includes a pretty big gender gap with women voting for democrats at a 60% clip, men checking in at 47% for democrats. meanwhile, the election drama keeps unfolding, summarized in this new headline. "for democrats, a midterm election that keeps on giving "marjorie clifton, peter emerson, reasna shaw, peter, i want to go with you first, since you're outnumbered here, what is your big takeaway from tuesday as we watch this apparent and expanding blue wave? >> i'm disappointed, less than
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50% of registered voters voted nationally. that is not a good win for democracy. second -- >> but it was up. >> but that's comparative. smaller countries than ours that smaller countries than ours that we look down on have 90, 95% turnout rate. democracy is not served when less than half the population doesn't turn out to vote. democrats found general success when they talked about issues local to voters from potholes to traffic to health care. but at the end of the day, the vast majority of statehouses and state legislatures are still controlled by republicans. i see it less as a wave. this isn't something i could body surf on. i think it was more of a ripple but a positive ripple. >> how about you, rena. did you get a big blue wave? was that what you learned as a republican on tuesday? >> it want a wave by any means to me. it was a good pickup, it was a
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solid one. everything is pretty close, as we now know from georgia and florida and arizona, but let's be honest here, the wave really came had it came to women. if there's one thing that's apparent, it's that republicans should be scared with women. how are they going to make up for this? young people we know the party's had a problem for a long time. we saw the empirical evidence tuesday night. it was really something embra embracing at the state level. democrats picked up more seats than either party had since the gop landslide in '94. in general we're going to have to look at the states again and be stronger. so this is a mess, if you have me, for republicans but certainly not a wave. >> to that point, 60% of women voted democrat. so what is that about? is it a trump effect or do you
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think it's democratic message? >> i this that women always tend to vote democrat. and this is true in every election. it did tick up a bit in this election. i think to answer your question, it's mostly anti-trump. there have been studies showing women were really responding to all the sexist things he's been saying and his supporters have been saying, calling women horseface, being awful to women reporters. trump has been accused of sexual assault by about 20 women. that really didn't play well with women this year. we talk about the women's vote as if they're a minority. women are the majority of the electorate and they're not a monolith. white women voted 49% for republicans and 49% for democrats. it was really black women that carried this democratic vote, and i think that's something that can't be overstated. >> what do you think, marjorie, your take on that. what do you think trump did that helped feed all the gop losses.
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joe scarborough wrote about this a little bit in the "washington post." what's your opinion on that? >> the other thing you have to look at is there were more women running than we've ever seen and a lot of different kind of women. i think there is an appeal in current times to a lot of the things these women are talking about that are very real to women, talking about their children and safety and health care and things that matter. and then i think also this drum beats that has continued now for two years under the trump administration. it's a pretty loud noise. and it is in terms of sexism. and i think it kind of wears you out and down to a point where you say, you know, i have trouble representing or voting or supporting this person any more regardless of my plolitica beliefs. there are a lot of womenism know who struggled with this, who voted based on policies because they're pro-life or things like that. but they'll look at this and say the way he talks to people and
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the way she speaks and name calls, i can't stand by that as a christian or as a mother or whatever it is that brings him to the table. i think that did have a very big impact. you look at it in statehouses. health insuran that's where women had the biggest wins. 11 gains in the house. that's a pretty dramatic shift. i think that had a lot do with it. >> peter, i want to look back to 2010. president obama lost 63 house seats in his first midterm. when you look at the economy and how that is thriving right now, how do you count for this president losing 30-plus seats? >> because trump and trump's candidates were not campaigning on a booming economy. instead trump forced a one-word policy platform and the word was fear. also trump and senator mcconnell decided that keeping the senate was far more important than keeping the house. for one i think particular
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personal reason for trump is it's likely the federal judiciary, including the supreme court, are going to be at the very survival gates for donald trump so the senate is extremely important to donald trump. >> i want to ask all three of the ladies here, is there a way that democrats can investigate all the relevant issues they see with the president, that would include taxes, also look at russia and not turn off some in the public who don't want washington to get bogged down in investigations and to instead focus on things like health care, infrastructure, the things that really, really affect their lives. what do you think, rina? >> that's going to be the slip-up. that's what happens when leadership gets too confident and really comfortable more than anything else. they've been waiting for this. the democrats cannot wait to take those chairmanships so they can send out all those subpoenas. i think it's going to be counterproductive. what women on both sides of the aisle want to see are real
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solutions and real compromise. the morning of the election i was thinking a divided government would be better for our country. i lost all my moderates on tuesday night. it was terrible for me. with comstock going, these are people we look to to hold together compromise. i'm nervous with some of these moderates going to be gone. >> lalaura, what do you think? >> i think people would like to stop this crazy polarization and crazy fighting. people are so turned off in general. it's like we're two different nations. the left is so angry, they would love to see trump held accountable for some of the obviously illegal things he's been doing. >> last word to you, marjorie. >> i think the divide isn't just women. we have to look at culturally what's happening in the country.
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it was under 50 and 18 to 19-year-old who is voted 2-1 democratic. i think there is a messaging thing that both parties need to look at. what's resonating with young people and people of color that's different than some of the republican messaging. we need moderates on both sides. we're all going to lose if we stay in this place of tribal different positions. frankly, who's coming are young people and people of color to our nation. >> protests in florida as recounts become the order of the day. in florida as recounts become the order of the day. let's clear a path. let's put down roots. let's build something. let's do the thing that you do. let's do the thing that changes the shape of everything... that pushes us forward and keeps us going.
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