visiting the u.s. military in about an hour's time. as the president shook hands with putin he drew sharp contrast with the rhetoric of president trump. >> it only looks after his own interest because patriotism is the exact opposite of nationalism. nationalism is a betrayal by saying who cares about the others. we erase what a nation holds dearest, what making it grace and what is essential. it is moral values. author of the book choke hold is here and koe host of trump cast. ellie is editor of above the low and win stead is the founder of

lady parts justice. let's start with what we just heard there. nationalism and betrayal. your reaction to that. the way this trip unfolded this far it began with a tweet. now we have this. the nench president saying the president of the united states was an active artist there. >> cosign? >> a hard cosign. i mean anybody that has lived in our ever evolving world can look at nationalism as a policy that wor works within the intersectional country they love will not focus on the world they live in. to me there was a way to say get your head out of your rear. you live in a global world.

>> your reaction to how aull of this has unfolded. >> it is great to see him grow. in general -- >> i'm writing that one down. >> yeah. >> in general it has been just as craven as our own republican party. donald trump is in violation with his new asylum rule. it has said nothing. if a sovereign african leader says boo to kol onnists and they are on their behind sanctioning them but where the is the u.n. where are the u.n. election monitors. like the international community reacts to trump as if he is a crazy american president.

if it was a sovereign leader of south american nation the u.n. would a completely different reaction. >> i have to go right off that. it's brilliantly put. at the same time i have compassion for the american people because we have a president we have never seen before. he broke -- i mean he punched a hole in reality. he punches us in a hole on regular basis. he punches us in the face and we try to make sense of it. we are reeling. it is two years. it is the end of the end all ward. it is supposed to be the beginning of peace. we never know war again. we are two years into the presidency of someone that is the very opposite of that. we are trying to make sense. where is the international community.

where are americans that can even get their footing. i think we are trying to talk like things are normal. >> plenty of people go to paris to forget their cares. we have been talking about florida there is a bit of escapism. >> escapism and missing an opportunity. tomorrow is veterans day. the president refused to visit a cemetery in france where 2000 american died. marines are buried there who lost their lives defending this country. this is a president who does not respect the armed forces. he dodged the draft himself. he said he was not a war hero because he got caught. when all of the other presidents are honoring their war dead on this sacred ground the president refuses to because it is rainy.

>> i would like to add not only does it disrespect our veterans, american workers travel 90 minutes to work every single day no matter what the weather is. for him to say i just can't get in a car and go and honor our world war i dead when people are like i do this every day to try to put food on my table -- >> he might melt if he gets wet though. >> there is a lot of cosmetics. >> we have seen it in the wind. >> all right. okay. well, i want to read it now. presidential presidents at war. he has that today as well. let's dig into this a little bit as well. talking about the centennial of world war i. your reaction to what we saw yesterday. joe there instead of the president of the united states, what did that signal to you?

>> they were great. we americans lost 116,000 or more of or warriors in that war temperature least they owe to them is to show some respect for their memory. you look at every other president all the way back over decades you would not have seen this. >> i would bring this up as we shouldn't be talk too much about woodrow wilson. >> he looks great compared to this. >> let me read one quotation. in the 1918 midterms he shamelessly urging for the sake of the nation itself because republicans were trying to take the conduct of the war out of my hands. last hour we were talking about what's happening on the u.s. mexico border. you dau a parallel there.

>> i sure do. the lesson is you should never politicize war to win elections. in the midterms exactly a century ago wilson said vote democratic. you'll help the soldiers at war. they voted republican and gave both the house and senate to the democratic party. i what does it tell you if you see 12,000 or 15,000 troops to confront a danger that is not there for political reasons right before an election. that is something the presidents do not do. once again, we are in territory we haven't seen before. >> i want to ask you where this is taking place. there is always some degree of em par rasz. we were talking about that

outside of this country as well. what do you make of the recurrence of this, of the president sort of doing this over and over again, what it says about i licenses we have in the world ch we don't realize the damage when he stays in his hotel room but the more danger is that she doing this kind of thing deliberately with the intention of breaking up the alliances and with dt you have to keep that possibility in mind. >> how many of you think it is a deliberate thing? >> this is why putin -- like we can talk about why he want to influence the election. this is why. he wanted to break nato down and

wanted to in the race of the western allies. >> that was his priority right? he said find someone that looks at you the way trump looks at putin. his work in the receiving line. he can't get his hands off of him. >> it is also why nationalism is of patriotism. it is ignoring other countries and not wanting to afford alliances with people who have helped us through the centuries, it makes us weaker and makes our defenses less strong. >> i would say on a super simplistic level this is a president that before he was president spent all of its time strike that jazzing thousand break ie licenses up. it sounds stupid but that was all about pitting people against each other, having people in the hospital work together. he mastered it and brought it to a super important place we are

all suffering because of it. >> that's amazing. >> it is. >> yeah. remember? >> yeah. >> remember someone would be in the hot seat saying that they had messed up. another person would denaend person. he would say you're fired. >> yeah. >> what i remember is when the black guy won and he said i think you should share it with mb else. >> we learned about that in the first season. >> the question was would there be an issue? these two leaders will meet at the g20 at the end of the month. the degree which we are watching how they shang hands in parisful. >> this is the problem. we have seen the number of times

we find out about mieetings lik this not from our russian government but you have these meet meetings. we have no idea what was said between putin and trump when they met not too long ago. this is true of these meetings. we have to say this is something that's a departure from american history. every time a president meets with a russian leader before donald trump you get a little bit of a sense of what the atmosphere was. these things happen in secret. if it happens between trump and putinanother secret meeting we do not know about combined with the display we have seen where trump seems to be at least taking a minor baseball bat after this alliance again you got to combine those two and worry. >> and when i wake up every

morning this is departure from history and normality. >> and people that support trump supported him because he was supposed to be strong. hiding in your hotel room is not strength. buddying up and having a bromance is not strength. he is not going to go on an apology tour. at least he got out and apologized. this guy can't even go downstairs. >> he is carrying on some kind of war were firefighters in malibu. it's the caravan that's the problem. not our actual enemies. the firefighters, i mean i found that astounding. >> yeah. on how to fight the fires. the president tweeted about that. >> he can't put out his own. >> yes. i'll be here all week. >> enjoy. >> yeah.

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voting is over and fwal lots are counted. several contests are too close to call including the gof flor's race in georgia and senate race in arizona. all of this is not sitting well with president trump what wlo has gone from celebrated what happened on tuesday -- >> i'll tell you what, this was a great victory for us. again, from a deal making standpoint we are all much better off. >> trying to steal two big elections we are watching closely. this change of tax started before he left for paris. he was already working to sew seeds of doubts in these key races. >> all of a sudden they are finding votes out of nowhere. rick scott who won by, you know, it was close but he won by a comfortable margin, every couple of hours it goes down a little bit. a lot of crooked stuff going on.

>> claiming election fraud, election stealing and election corruption. those are beginning to germinate on thursday. florida's governor echoed the president's rhetoric. >> every floridan should be concerned there should be fraud happening. i will not sit by while liberals try to steal this election. >> the governor's statements have no basis in fact a member told the miami herald our staff has seen no act of criminal activity at this time. of the claim that there is electoral corruption in arizona there is zero evidence of any going on in the arizona vote counting. if all of this feels familiar it is because president trump campaigned against a rigged election. he suggested would be rigged the

president claimed against falsely, i won the popular vote if you deduct the millions of people who voted illegally. it is for the gentcenter at jus. examination of examination reveal it is very rare. it is nearly nonexistent and much of the problems associated relates to unintentional mistakes by voters or election add minu administrators. the fact checking continues. none of that stopped him from spreading this misinformation in this country. take a listen to what the president said in april. >> many places, the same person votes many times. you probably heard about that. they sauls say it is a serious theory. >> it was a remarkable assault on the nation's institutions even bay president who has taken

a hammer to the press to judges and prosecutors and to an electoral process since the day he took office. this is what i want to tackle here. is all of this working? let me turn to you first. i will take a breath here. >> okay. i am just saying. >> a preelection poll, do you think there will be voter fraud in this year's midterms? 65% of them say not likely. republicans, 72% say very likely. i was talking about the germination of this seed. how worried are you? >> i think there's a couple of things. >> congratulations. >> but also rick scott did not win comfort blichlt he has never won comfortably. the last two he was in there was

a 1.5% margin of victory. when there's a real possibility that ballots are turning up that it's not a problem and liberals problems i think that the crisis is they have spun it that it is some how stealing an election. that to me is horrifying especially when you saw the trend in all of these states whether people didn't bring l electrical cords. i think that's real. >> let me ask you about the march. the president attacking the fbi, justice department, the press, we saw that through the white house and now elections. what's this all leading towards? he is on the march to what? >> one of the things that dictators like to do is to

control the legal process. this is a man that says that hillary clinton should be locked up, that james comey should be locked up. what has held him back has been the hard working career criminals who remind them there is a rule of law. now we have a new acting attorney general who also says that hillary clinton should be locked up. again, it is adjacent. we are not quite there but i don't know. >> you want to talk about your sense? >> it has all happened and it will happen again. it is a book called the storm before the storm. it is the generation before the republic fully fell. >> i'm really glad we are talking about that. we are here. we are here. >> one of the lessons i took

from that book is once these political norms break down they cannot easily be resurrected. that's the situation. she breaking down all of our kind of bond of fellowship and when -- long after he is gone we are not going to have the ability to put it back together. the next person after trump will build on what's already worked for trump. that's the -- so when you say like the inching towards authoritarianism this is how it works. this is how republics die and he is killing it. >> i want to turn to berry richards. he was back in 2000 during the recount. you have been listening to conversation. i want to get your sense of how it will fold into the conversation we are having. >> i think the process in florida which today is much more

efficient and sensible than it was in 2000 will play out in the normal process. we are going to end up with determination of who the winners are. what struck me when i was listening to your conversation a few minutes ago, if you set aside commentings and look at the norm both winners and losers and i find there's a consistent reaction that you get. every candidate who looses in a close election turns to his or her lawyer and says do i have a case. the other side with some exceptions always starts crying you're a sore loser. i agree with the quote i heard you read. they are messy businesses and mistakes but not frauds. >> help us understand the degree

to which the president's words are ringing out across tallahassee and across the state of florida. yes there is the rhetoric but also what he promised to send more lawyers down there. it changed the equation a little bit. how hard is it going to be to tune that out what the president is saying and what we are saying as all of this unfolds? >> i don't think we are going to see a repeat of 2000. in 2000 within days of the election we had 47 lawsuits filed by everybody. we are not going to see that. as i said, this is going to play itself out. he is within the half percentage point that triggered a machine recount by machine recount we mean that the poll workers feed the ballots into the machines again. we get a result. if that result puts it within a

quarter percent then there's a state wind hand recount in the scott nelson case, the margin was within a quarter percent. they automatically get the hand recount unless the machine recount changes that which is not unlikely. we are going to follow those patterns. it is possible that after that happens that there will be again lawsuits but there's not going to be any where close to 47 lawsuits. i think it will end. we are fortunate we have this process because the alternative which a lot of countries have is for people to take to the streets. we shouldn't be criticizing it. we shob applauding the fact that we have this ability to be heard. >> thank you very much for that. i will give you the last word to respond what he said about this country versus others and what we are seeing in florida chlgt.

>> he says when you want to know what the tyrant is going to do look for what he is afraid of. i imagine it is some chess thing. putin was terrified. it was the thing that scared him the most. that sensitivity to what the people really want is too hard for them. we have been talking about trump is terrified that every vote will be counted. how crazy? he knows the people don't want to miss president and in florida the newly enfranchised felons don't want to miss president and for that matter republicans, so that's an initiative. it is a fraud. we should never mention it. we haven't talked about the real thing. in florida we got -- we had 1.3 million people and they couldn't vote this time. it will be interesting to see what happens. >> you have 30 seconds.

>> that was exactly the point. the florida voters did something very right on election day. they restored voting rights to 1 million people who because of this old law couldn't vote because they had a felony in their past. it would have made the difference. if these mainly men, a lot of whom were african american could have voted we would be talking about governor elect. first, making amends on saturday night live. >> i'll just say never forget. >> never forget. and that is for both of us. for. and that is for both of us

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control the house of representatives. it will give them an opportunity to put all kinds of pressure on the trump administration and the republican party. they are also in the process of figuring out their message. >> the biggest winner yesterday was the health care for american people. >> there were a bunch of things we would want to get done for infrastructure. >> the agenda we push forward has been to reduce the economic anxiety. >> producting mueller is paramont. >> to get anything down the democrats will have to unite behind one message. many of them turned their attention to 2020. i want to turn bab to virginia here. help me understand the dynamic that's playing out here. you have to old guard there talking about health care and

infrastructure. there are plenty of people in the democratic party that want the first, second and third things. get into the tax returns we heard there. what's your sense of that tension and how it will play? >> i have as much blood lost as much as the other person. i also think that there is a real reason that voters are invested in oversite. it is that -- you know, it's just what we heard about with checks and balances. i would always vote the democratic ticket. it is checking the box for checks and balances. >> okay. >> yeah. >> and i just -- i want some push back on him. we mentioned it. you can't have a real totalitarian government with an oppositional congress. it is just a little wedge in

there. we have a lot of work to do. it wasn't a feel good election. it was to keep us clear eyed. >> so two, by the way. >> democrats need to first figure out a leader. i do not want to hear people talking about whether she needs to keep her job. >> yeah. i noticed that. >> the democratic party need to have accountability. they spent two years giving away the entire store. he said that he compromised with trump. he compromised on judicial elections. he did it because he said he was trying to save the senate. the only person he mentioned was joe manage. he should have to resign his leadership position to somebody who will use it before we get to talking about nancy pelosi. she is up 40 seats.

chuck schumer is down three seats. you stro start talking to me about chuck shumer -- schumer first. >> first of all i want to say it is an up popular thing. i don't give the democratic party a lot of credit. it was the people who decided i will run. nobody asked these people to run. they did not come up from that machine. they said i want to see change in our community. i aligned in values but they are not executing the values i believe in. what i think would be a good thing is i completely agree with you but also for everybody who is in power and part of that machine that people ran against pelosi and listen to these people who are coming in and follow the lead of these new

people because they are the ones who ran putting everything they have. you you can do two things. >> yeah. they can still lead on health care. they won with obama and lost with clinton. this is going to lead them in a more moderate drek. on the other hand hay cthey can to grow the base. it would mean they take more progressive stances. we look at some of these creative exciting folks who are going to be members of congress. this is the future. it is about one people. it is about people of color.

>> if they don't have a dream act by martin luther king day it is time to start get reorganized, right? >> i just saw republicans pass obamacare repeal 11 billion times. i don't care if the senate is going to pass it. i want a federal reform act. i want a protection act for mueller. i want all of that done regardless of what the minority in the senate is going to -- i want tlohose issues front and center the entire time. >> we'll get these investigations. how is it that they will yield anything? you'll get political is it going to yield any? >> yes. we have check and balances. they will subpoena the president's tax records. he must turn those over. >> the president of the united

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i'll never forgive him for what he did to our united states military. >> let me turn to your first and we'll come back to that. >> okay. >> what do you make of this moment? you written so wonderfully about it. why is it such a sensation? it isn't such a book tour. she will be talking to oprah and a ton of other names. why do we have such interest in what michelle obama has to say about her life as a whole? >> i don't think anyone here will remember this but paul, brief presidential candidate -- >> paul. >> i like that. >> i am that person. i write paul fan fiction. >> yeah. >> so he said he married his r

charisma. michelle obama is our most nonneurotic first lady. she would not keep her poker face when strufrp insulting them. it is so nice to see that under current of that white house. she always mentions in the book ternl problems she had even problems with fertility and it's just you can see the side that is not perfect barack obama and you see why we needed michelle obama so much. >> and i also thought michelle obama was awesome. the one thing that set me over the top on her is when obama was talking about syria the first time and he said in a speech my

wife is going to be really mad at me if we do this, that was the lowest form of saying my wife is beraiding me. i was like i didn't think i could love you anymore but right now i'm all in. >> yeah. michelle is the real life anger tra translator. >> yes. >> that's right. >> he is the original sin of the president presidency. she is absolutely right to call him out about that. i think she is actually being nice for him by foe cussing it on him. it seems like they are ready to

say that. it is buzz of that irterism. it started that existence because he was anger. >> she is not allowed to be angry because it plays into stereo types about angry black women. i went to law school with him. she was as brilliant then as now. so when the week when the president of the united states says attacked at least three black women telling one was stupid and another one to sit down. >> she told another one she was racist. >> yeah. michelle obama has proudly been an african american woman. in her book she talks about dealing with stereo types. she talks about growing a garden in the white house. those were about supporting

families and inequality. i think she is a brilliant politician. i wish she were in the mix. >> i'm glad you bring up the dedication. there were many things about it. it is great to have a president that doesn't read talking about what books are supposed to be like. >> but didn't write his own. >> it is for not funding the military adequately. it was astonishing. you'll throw this at me? i'll throw it back to you. >> i have seen some former right wings on twitter. former right wing veterans talking about an apology saying he couldn't believe he thought obama was anti military. trump hasn't visited any of the hot zones around the world. he hasn't visited our military. he failed to show up as we --

you know, yesterday as european commemoration of world war i and it is ridiculous. time after time insult the families. wasn't invited to john mccain's funer funeral because of this reason. there was no way you could see him as he militarized our border and left veterans sleeping outside on the border against, you know, ragged asylum seekers. it is insane. >> might i add where most of our troops are not in places it is very rainy. >> yes. >> you mentioned he missed this appearance yesterday. we'll monitor that as soon as it begins. tune in today headliners tonight at 10:00 p.m. eastern time.

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welcome back. we are waiting remarks from the president of the united states. he is in m france, as we have bn talking about. the white house saying president trump plans to deliver a speak that will focus on honoring americans that fought and died in world war i. he's being joined by world leaders at a cemetery southwest ofer paris. we haven't talked about matt whitaker. i want to get into that first, if we could. the president naming him as his

acting attorney general. the white house is distancing itself from this appointment. your sense of how all of this is going to play out? >> yeah. so the constitution says that principal officers have to be confirmed byto the senate. principal officers are people who report directly to the president, which is what the attorney general does. what thewh trump administrations saying is there is another federal vacancy act, which allows them to appoint anyone who has been confirmed by the senate. so their argument is because this man was a united states attorney many years ago in iowa and at that point, a long time ago, the senate confirmed him that that counts. i think that's a dubious legal argument. that will be tested in the court. so part ofte it will be whether the law catches up with this man first or whether the politics. because, again, he is corrupt. he has basically applied for this job of being the attorney general by taking the

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